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| coderus | Just created indiegogo campaign to support myself as developer. Contribute if you're interested in me! http://igg.me/at/coderus | 00:46 |
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| coderus | swift110110: download and install SailfishOS SDK, virtualbox emulator will be included. | 05:50 |
| swift110110 | Oh ok i did that | 05:50 |
| coderus | now open virtualbox and start sailfishos emulator :) | 05:51 |
| swift110110 | Ok thanks | 05:52 |
| swift110110 | Shoo | 05:52 |
| swift110110 | Ok it didn't download | 05:52 |
| swift110110 | How large is the file | 05:52 |
| coderus | i dont know | 05:53 |
| coderus | half of gigabyte probably | 05:53 |
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| ulvus | Hello | 12:01 |
| coderus | hello? | 12:02 |
| ulvus | Hi, | 12:02 |
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| sec | Hello? | 12:11 |
| Nicd- | is it me you're looking for? | 12:12 |
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| Sail0r | interesting maybe it's possible to port this to sailfish https://github.com/jcla1/goquizduell | 12:24 |
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| walokra | how do I detect if user is doing backnavigation in pagestack | 14:05 |
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| lukedirtwalker | walokra: I use Component.onDestruction to detect when the page is gone from the stack | 14:18 |
| lukedirtwalker | walokra: but that means you always have to recreate it like this: pageStack.push(Qt.resolvedUrl("YourPage.qml"), | 14:18 |
| lukedirtwalker | but maybe there are better ways | 14:19 |
| walokra | trying to work with PageStatus.Deactivating | 14:20 |
| walokra | but pagestack.depth is strange | 14:20 |
| lukedirtwalker | walokra: maybe you can also check pageStack.top == page | 14:25 |
| Nc_ | How the heckington do you make Sailfish Silica buttons word-wrap? :) | 14:26 |
| lukedirtwalker | Nc_: doesn't it wrap if you set a fixed width? | 14:28 |
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| coderus | walokra: i can help you | 14:30 |
| Nc_ | lukedirtwalker, that wasn't what I was seeing just now ... mayhap I'm doing something wrong | 14:31 |
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| swift110-phone | Hey all | 14:31 |
| coderus | walokra: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/blob/master/client/qml/CreateGroup.qml#L17 | 14:31 |
| coderus | or seems i didn't understood you correctly :D | 14:32 |
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| coderus | walokra: just tell what action you want to do on back pagestack action | 14:32 |
| Nc_ | lukedirtwalker, using "width: parent.width * 0.8" - no wrapping :( | 14:33 |
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| salamisami | How do I find the serial number of Jolla | 14:34 |
| salamisami | is it in the packaging? | 14:34 |
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| lukedirtwalker | Nc_: okay then I have no further idea :( | 14:36 |
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| Nc_ | No worries - I'll keep hitting my Jolla with a hammer, until the text is fitting ... and then include that requirement in the app documentation | 14:36 |
| Armadillo | salamisami Settings/System/Product information or imei from the package | 14:41 |
| ulvus | hello | 14:49 |
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| walokra | coderus and lukedirtwalker thanks for help, figured it out with pagestack.depth and inactive status | 14:54 |
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| coderus | walokra: sorry for late, and good you figured out it :D | 15:23 |
| walokra | np | 15:25 |
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| blvszcz | hello, I have a question - how can I send 'data from one app to another one' - is there any mechanism in sailifhos like android intens http://developer.android.com/training/sharing/send.html What I would like to achieve is to add extra option to current share for picture | 17:28 |
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| SfietKonstantin | blvszcz: use DBus | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | blvszcz: ha | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | no | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | you need to implement some "hidden" stuff | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | it is the transfer engine | 17:30 |
| blvszcz | SfietKonstantin: is there any cannonical mechanism? | 17:30 |
| blvszcz | hmmm l/ | 17:30 |
| blvszcz | ;/ | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | blvszcz: not officially | 17:30 |
| blvszcz | uch, its sad. it helps out a bit :) | 17:31 |
| SfietKonstantin | blvszcz: sailfish is nowhere as mature as android | 17:32 |
| SfietKonstantin | so stuff are not official | 17:32 |
| sec | Given the security issues Android faces because of this mechanism, I would rather they take time to develop something secure | 17:33 |
| blvszcz | Sure, got it. | 17:33 |
| entil | I know qt's not strictly sailfish, but anyone got a clue about ignoring ssl errors? http://pastebin.com/Z5rmF7K8 | 17:33 |
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| entil | line 110, I try to ignore errors, that I had originally at 128, and the app dies finally later because it doesn't get an http code (because ssl fails?) | 17:33 |
| blvszcz | sec I am curious how jolla handles android intens, but i am not in rush to install android layer ;] | 17:34 |
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| sec | Yep, it's a battery hog anyway. I am doing just fine without it. | 17:34 |
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| blvszcz | sec, finally have mobile without java ;) why bring it back :P | 17:35 |
| sec | Exactly :P | 17:35 |
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| entil | . o O ( also had a version of the code that tried to ignore every ssl error on the socket but that didn't work either ) | 17:37 |
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| sardini | hello, how can i simulate rotation in sailfishos simulator ? please | 17:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | sardini: you cannot | 17:45 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sadly | 17:45 |
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| sardini | ok thank you Sfiet_Konstantin | 17:46 |
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| sec | By the way, I saw a few developers raising funds on igg etc. If any of you guys need cheap devices shipped from India/HK/Russia or wherever you find them cheapest, get in touch with me. | 18:14 |
| sec | I don't know what NielDK's IRC handle is, but I think coderus also started one campaign. | 18:14 |
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| anYc | how can I shutdown the jolla phone? | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | hold down power button? | 19:05 |
| Stskeeps | until it reacts | 19:05 |
| sec | anYc: make sure you're on the home screen | 19:06 |
| anYc | ah, on the home screen it works. thanks! | 19:06 |
| anYc | have to send it in for repair :( | 19:07 |
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| Nc_ | Is there any sekrit trick to ensure my app always closes, when the user swipes down on it, or push-hold the cover and then clicks the X ? | 19:21 |
| Nc_ | Seeing too many cases of my app still showing in the process list :( | 19:21 |
| cos- | it should do it by default | 19:21 |
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| cos- | check with debugger what it is doing after closed | 19:22 |
| Nc_ | not sure how - setting a breakpoint on closure seems a bit .... difficult? | 19:23 |
| cos- | if the process is running, attach a debugger to it and see what it is doing | 19:23 |
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| coderus | Nc_: you may have broken cover component | 19:25 |
| coderus | Nc_: this is the most popular reason of such problems | 19:25 |
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| Nc_ | Seems I need to set something up for remote debuggin | 19:26 |
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| Nc_ | coderus, perhaps ... | 19:26 |
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| Nc_ | cos-, you sure debugging is possible? Every result I've found so far about remote debugging sailfish apps, is about how it doesn't work/exist :) | 19:31 |
| cos- | Nc_: yes, it's a real linux underneath | 19:31 |
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| cos- | you can use for gdb for example | 19:31 |
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| Nc_ | yeah, QtCreator just threw a "gdbserver not found" at me | 19:32 |
| cos- | just run gdb over ssh | 19:34 |
| netvandal | hi all, i have a small issues installing the sailfish sdk on my new machines, i got some error when the installer try to generete sshkesy | 19:35 |
| netvandal | i tried to run merssh but it dies with: +++ killed by SIGKILL +++ | 19:35 |
| netvandal | Killed | 19:35 |
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| coderus | Nc_: instal gdb on phone | 19:58 |
| coderus | and run gdb executable | 19:58 |
| Nc_ | Already installed gdb and gdb-gdbserver - trying to use the latter for remote debugging via QtCreator, due to lack of experience with gdb | 19:58 |
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| coderus | debug it locally | 20:00 |
| Nc_ | thats basically the same as saying "learn gdb" - a step I kinda hope is not mandatory for writing qml-based apps for Jolla phones :) | 20:02 |
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| coderus | Nc_: gdb executable | 20:07 |
| coderus | > run | 20:08 |
| coderus | when exception | 20:08 |
| coderus | > backtrace | 20:08 |
| coderus | for exit | 20:08 |
| coderus | > quit | 20:08 |
| Yaniel | also | 20:08 |
| Yaniel | > kill | 20:08 |
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| Yaniel | and then run again | 20:09 |
| coderus | if keed :D | 20:09 |
| Yaniel | ever debugged memory problems? | 20:10 |
| Yaniel | boy I kill my programs at that part | 20:11 |
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| Nc_ | not that using gdb made much sense to me, but suspecting it is pyotherside, that is keeping the application running | 20:21 |
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| coderus | thp: ^ | 20:48 |
| Nc_ | yup - disabled it, app is able to close | 20:49 |
| Nc_ | but is problem if UI doesn't reflect actual state of programs - if the user closes app, app should close :( | 20:50 |
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| lukedirtwalker | is it not possible to have gridview in a column? it has a huge spacing to the previioues item | 21:10 |
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| coderus | lukedirtwalker: what you mean? | 21:20 |
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| coderus | there are no layout restrictions | 21:20 |
| coderus | what you want to do? | 21:21 |
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| lukedirtwalker | coderus: Actually it's a different problem: I have a repeater with fixed height in a column. After the Repeater there is huge spacing without reason | 21:22 |
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| coderus | lukedirtwalker: i saw something similar | 21:23 |
| coderus | show qml | 21:24 |
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| lukedirtwalker | coderus: https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/butaca/blob/sf_integration2/src/qml/sailfish/WelcomeView.qml#L123 | 21:25 |
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| lukedirtwalker | coderus: http://imgur.com/6JATp4F this is what it looks | 21:27 |
| lukedirtwalker | coderus: I even looked at heights of items and everything looked fine: header.heigh == 110 repeater.height == 300 | 21:28 |
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| coderus | lukedirtwalker: remove height from repeater? | 21:31 |
| lukedirtwalker | coderus: amazing thanks :)) | 21:32 |
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| coderus | working? | 21:33 |
| lukedirtwalker | yes | 21:33 |
| coderus | good :) | 21:33 |
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| nodevel | hey. is there any way to 'steal the focus' for an application? that means not being able to escape it? I tried to take an inspiration from the 'EdgeBlocker.qml' of Sailfish Tutorial app, but can't get it to work. | 21:38 |
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| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: I have ported butaca. Need to make some time to upload the code. | 22:02 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: lol | 22:03 |
| lukedirtwalker | I'm uploading my version right now | 22:03 |
| nodevel | it's been few months :) | 22:03 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: you should have told me | 22:03 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwater: i just didn't have time for the last finishing touches, because of the school. i think i've mentioned in on TMO | 22:04 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: did you use the butaca source or did you do something else? | 22:04 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: aha I thought you said you work on your own implementation :P | 22:05 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: mostly butaca source. i just implemented a different way to get the showtimes. | 22:05 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: yeah, it's not 100% port :) | 22:05 |
| lukedirtwalker | do you have the source on github? | 22:05 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: how do you the showtimes? I didn't have time for this | 22:05 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: i need to refresh my memory. what i know is that i use it on my Jolla for getting showtimes, movie info etc., I just didn't feel it was ready for prime time. I've got it on my bitbucket, give me some time and I'll check the code and upload it to github | 22:07 |
| nodevel | (bitbucket == private repo) | 22:07 |
| lukedirtwalker | just make it open ? | 22:08 |
| nodevel | of course, that was the plan | 22:09 |
| nodevel | just need to check if I didn't leave any personal info there (i think I tried to connect it to youtube, which I needed an api key for) | 22:09 |
| ulvus | Hi | 22:09 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: would have been cool if we could have collaborated earlier that would have saved some work for both of us ;) | 22:10 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: i know, i'm sorry. i had much more time for programming earlier this year | 22:11 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: me too :D | 22:11 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: :) I was like "i need to find the little time to clean the code and upload it" ever since | 22:12 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: i'm checking the source right now, so should upload it today | 22:12 |
| lukedirtwalker | yeah I did a little sprint this weekend (or more yesterday hangover day) | 22:12 |
| nodevel | ulvus: Hi | 22:12 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: https://openrepos.net/content/lukedirtwalker/butaca | 22:14 |
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| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: oh, now I remember - I researched some options for the showtimes part, but didn't have much experience with c++, so went with small python script and pyotherside. that might have been the reason for not sharing the code from the beginning | 22:14 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: nice, will try :) | 22:14 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: aha :) yeah I investigated to make some json api around but its ugly | 22:16 |
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| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: alright, quickly removed the api keys (youtube+tmdb) and here we go https://github.com/nodevel/harbour-butaca/ | 22:27 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: I wished I had done it earlier :( | 22:27 |
| nodevel | *wish | 22:27 |
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| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: cool we should look into merging it somehow I think | 22:30 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: yeah, definitely | 22:30 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: is your app's name 'harbour-butaca' as well? | 22:31 |
| lukedirtwalker | yes :P | 22:31 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: alright :) if it wasn't, we could install this side by side and see the differences more clearly | 22:32 |
| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: but launching through sdk should work fine | 22:33 |
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| nodevel | lukedirtwalker: i suppose your version is here? https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/butaca/tree/sailfish | 22:35 |
| lukedirtwalker | nodevel: yeah under a different branch: https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/butaca/tree/sailfish_integration | 22:35 |
| ulvus | Ok. Are cool to hear about sailfish os 2 and tablet and phones | 22:36 |
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