Saturday, 2014-11-22

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keithzgHmmm, how do I access a value in one of the QML pages from the cover?00:18
keithzg(trying to be all pure-QML about it, mostly because I'm lousy at C++ :P )00:19
Accekeithzg: one way is to define a property in your main qml00:19
Accewhere you create your page and cover00:19
Accethen bind some property of the page to some property of the cover00:20
Acce(sorry you don't absolutely need the property in main qml, just misthinked it first)00:20
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Accean example: https://github.com/Acce0ss/ropedice/blob/master/qml/harbour-ropedice.qml00:21
Accesee how the cover properties are bound to mainPage.properties00:21
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keithzgAcce: Aha, thanks, I'll give that a shot00:23
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beidlsandsmark: a little something is in my owncloud app repo :)01:42
beidlgot to tell ya, it's hard to actually work with your main machine (laptop) when the screen is broken01:42
ryukafalzwell you can connect an external display :P01:45
beidlI'm a minimalist, usually I wouldn't have a need for that :)01:46
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beidlhttp://i.imgur.com/30AEV5d.jpg01:51
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beidlsandsmark: file browsing as well as authentication works, as long as you apply a little change in qwebdav to ignore ssl errors with custom certificates.01:54
ryukafalzbeidl: ouch01:55
beidlryukafalz: yyyup. and today I got the mail that my replacement screen can't be shipped. after 3 months of ordering it01:55
ryukafalz=/01:56
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* keithzg has to admit to being entirely baffled as to how to properly remove items from the delegate in a ListView02:54
keithzgOh, d'oh, I was just being silly about how I was trying to remove from the underlying list being used. Oops.03:04
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coderusAcce: i dont like your way of setting values to cover08:41
coderus:)08:42
Armadillogood morning08:43
Accecoderus: I'm sorry :)08:43
Accewhat way do you use then?08:43
Acce(now you got me reading your Mitakuuluu code again, damn you!)08:48
Armadillogood question, I'm also interested in08:51
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coderusAcce: it's better to define properties in main.qml, not to bind them to any page. If something happen your cover wont break your application.09:15
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gogetapeeps09:16
coderusyou can access properties defined in main qml by it name, without any prefixes. and you can modify and read it properties from any page including cover09:16
ArmadilloI define the global vars on the main qml and also define them in the sub page and refer to the one on the main qml so I can use onVarXYZChanged :)09:17
coderusbut probably the best solution is using .pragma library js file for storing your global configuration09:18
coderusbut for small amount of properties defining in main qml is enough09:18
Accehmm I see09:18
coderusAcce: cover shouldnt experience any problems with reaching values. In case it have problems some bugs may happen.09:19
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coderusyou can read many reports from developers who have bad covers in applicaions, and applications have problems with closing itself09:20
coderusAcce: https://github.com/Acce0ss/ropedice/blob/master/qml/harbour-ropedice.qml#L36 also can be rewtitten09:20
coderusjust move requestThrow signal to main qml09:21
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coderusand in mainPage ann Connections to base and handle onRequestThrow here09:21
coderusadd Connections*09:21
Armadillois there an example with the pragma lib?09:21
coderushttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-javascript-resources.html09:22
Armadillobut there's no part which access varables only function09:26
Armadilloor I'm a bit blind^^09:26
Armadillooh well, one function returns a variable09:28
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Armadilloa bit oversized if you only have some simple vars which transport values from one page to another09:28
Accecoderus: sounds reasonable, thanks for the tips!09:29
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coderusArmadillo: you can access variables too09:38
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coderusFactorialCalculator.factorialCount09:40
coderusthts all you need09:40
Armadillook09:41
ArmadilloI'll keep it in mind as my main qml is constantly growing :)09:41
Armadillothanks09:42
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tortoisedoc_hmhm11:56
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tortoisedoc_hmhm12:32
tortoisedoc_hah12:33
tortoisedoc_http://tech.slashdot.org/story/14/11/21/1846247/windows-kernel-version-bumped-to-10012:33
tortoisedoc_here we go, windows is becoming the new linux :P12:33
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tortoisedoc_question12:35
tortoisedoc_is the systemd on jolla de-facto systemd?12:35
tortoisedoc_or customized?12:35
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tbryou don't want to carry a bag of patches, so I'd expect it to be pretty close to upstream. Have you checked out systemd in Mer?12:37
tortoisedoc_tbr : no , good point12:38
tortoisedoc_im just wondering12:38
tortoisedoc_as from here12:38
tortoisedoc_https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User#How_it_works12:38
tortoisedoc_it seems you can place user-specific service files in .config/systemd/user12:39
tortoisedoc_just wondering if it works in jolla? :)12:39
tortoisedoc_think im just gonna try :P12:39
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tortoisedoc_now if i can find some reference on how to write these systemd files...12:40
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coderustortoisedoc_: yes it works12:42
tortoisedoc_coderus : wow12:42
coderussystemd is systemd12:42
tortoisedoc_wonder if harbour will pass it :P12:42
tortoisedoc_as it is in .config dir12:43
locusfnope12:43
tortoisedoc_locusf : quiet :P12:43
tbrtortoisedoc_: https://github.com/kimmoli/irssi-mqtt-sailfish/blob/packaging/etc/systemd/user/irssi-notification-client.service (ignore the path)12:43
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coderustortoisedoc_: create it dynamically12:43
tortoisedoc_ahaaa12:43
coderustortoisedoc_: press button - add to startup12:43
tortoisedoc_coderus : harbour might have something to say about that too12:43
coderuspress button - remove from startup12:43
locusflike thats gonna go unnoticed?12:43
coderustortoisedoc_: no12:43
lukedirtwalkeranyone knows where the store qml is on the device?12:44
tortoisedoc_its worth a shot12:44
coderustortoisedoc_: harbout dont notice about that12:44
tortoisedoc_coderus : well tester wil12:44
kimmolitbr: that works really not so good12:44
coderuslukedirtwalker: open rpm and look?12:44
tbrrecently someone stated: user session services are prohibited due to "fragility of the whole process" whatever that means12:44
coderustortoisedoc_: no12:44
tortoisedoc_if there is a new btn in the settings ui12:44
tbrkimmoli: still he wanted an example of some sort, better than nothing :)12:44
coderustortoisedoc_: they never look what files are created when app working and where12:44
kimmoliy12:44
locusfthey did look for me12:45
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coderuslocusf: really?12:46
locusfcoderus: yup12:46
lukedirtwalkercoderus: and from where do I get the rpm?12:47
locusfalthough in my case they might have just looked at the source :p12:47
M4rtinKBTW, anyone got an idea when the next community meeting is supposed to take place ?12:47
M4rtinKhttps://together.jolla.com/question/54157/sailfishos-open-source-collaboration-meeting-planning/12:47
M4rtinKlists "November 3" which I think is out of date ;-)12:47
tbrM4rtinK: check logs of that meeting, usually agreed at the end12:47
M4rtinK...also, the latest minutes are missing :)12:48
locusfyeah12:48
locusfwasn't that canceled or something12:48
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tbrM4rtinK: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2014/mer-meeting.2014-11-04-15.00.html12:48
tbrNext meeting Tues Nov-25 @ 15:00 UTC, Chairperson cybette (cybette, 15:49:36)12:49
lukedirtwalkercoderus: found it in usr/share/store-client/12:49
M4rtinKOK, thanks! I'll fix the question when I'm at it.12:50
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Teguhm.. anyonew familiar with sailfish-browser? how to give more data to these callbacks? https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/blob/bc5982e59ab6ce87d379bbbeb6383b107ba011e2/src/pages/components/WebPopupHandler.js#L137 I'd like to add the img alt-text to the context menu, but haven't found a place where I could find and display it..13:18
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coderusTegu: it's not propagated to ui13:43
Teguoh :(13:43
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Teguso, it probably needs modifications to either sailfish-browser or even qtmozembed?13:46
Teguon C++ side13:46
coderuslet me remember where it came from13:47
coderusi coded this part :D13:47
Teguoh :D13:48
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TeguI tried to find a place where the values are set but got lost in the callbacks.13:49
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coderushttps://github.com/tmeshkova/embedlite-components/blob/master/jsscripts/ContextMenuHandler.js#L18613:50
coderushttps://github.com/tmeshkova/embedlite-components/blob/master/jsscripts/ContextMenuHandler.js#L28013:50
coderuson device it's: /usr/lib/mozembedlite/chrome/embedlite/content/ContextMenuHandler.js13:51
coderusyou can edit it easily13:51
Teguah, it's in another project. no wonder I didn't find it13:51
coderussure, sailfish-browser is just an UI13:51
Teguthanks, I'll have a look13:51
coderusqtmozembed is for qt implementation of embedlite13:52
coderusembedlite-components is for json handlers13:52
coderusand xulrunner is gecko :)13:52
coderusTegu: img alt can be asily done without recompilation13:53
coderusTegu: ping me if you encounter any problems13:53
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Teguoki, thanks :)13:54
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coderusoh, Jolla have /dev/nmea device? and i can read it?14:05
coderusi want external gps for my laptop :D14:05
coderusanybody coded something similar?14:05
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M4rtinKcoderus: mybe the columbus navigation toolkit from N9 could be salvadged ? :)14:07
M4rtinKhttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=6727614:07
M4rtinK*maybe14:07
M4rtinKit also made NEMA streams from non-NMEA input14:07
seccoderus: if you have the module in your laptop, there used to be an application that was distributed with Thinkpads earlier. It worked on other systems too.14:08
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coderussec: i want to use Jolla as external GPS  for laptop14:47
secah ok14:47
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Tegucoderus: humm, for some reason my changes to /usr/lib/mozembedlite/chrome/embedlite/content/ContextMenuHandler.js do not affect anything. finally I even tried to rename the file to make it break for sure.. but no, the context menu works o_O15:22
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Morpog_PCmaybe they moved that code to QML?15:24
Tegumaybe. then I need to find the new place15:26
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coderusTegu: touch /var/lib/_MOZEMBED_CACHE_CLEAN_16:12
coderusM4rtinK: you can't parse DOM in QML with gecko :D16:14
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coderusok i can test it myself now16:24
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Tegucoderus: awesome! I started to suspect some cache but didn't know about that file16:27
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coderusTegu: can you give me link to image with alt?16:43
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Tegucoderus: actually I noticed I was looking for title text instead of alt :P16:43
Teguguess which site.. xkcd.com :)16:43
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Teguit seems to have both alt and title, though16:44
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Teguthe title is visible now! no alt tex yet, though. http://i.imgur.com/onjKM9o.png17:01
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coderusTegu: can't remember now how to get alt from node :D17:21
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tango_γ2817:23
Tegucoderus: probably needs another namespace. but it's not so important for me now as the title works (or.. actually it's still bugged, as it doesn't update after the first time..)17:24
Tegujust noticed17:24
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Tegubut probably just my error17:24
TeguI've got some debug print at openContextMenu and it shows the title correctly. but the browser ui shows the old one17:25
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Teguoki, found the issue. the values had to be updated in a the other branch of an if-clause if the context menu was already created. it's working now :)17:47
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King_DuckZhello, I just tried this new chat called Tox, it looks very promising18:52
King_DuckZany chance to see it ported to sailfish soon?18:53
Yanielthere is always a chance18:57
Yanieltbh I'm interested in that as well18:59
Yanieland there is already a cross-platform qt client18:59
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secKing_DuckZ: #tox would be a better place18:59
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King_DuckZsec: ok19:02
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cryoratKing_DuckZ, there is an android app for this but i couldn make it work :((19:18
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King_DuckZcryorat: I don't think it's working at all yet, even on android https://wiki.tox.im/Clients19:22
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lukedirtwalkerhas anyone ever had that an app can't be started from the icon, but via terminal it works?19:25
Yanielbroken .desktop?19:25
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coderuslukedirtwalker: yeah, just post your main.cpp code and .desktop file19:26
King_DuckZthe sailfish sdk is giving an error during installation     VBoxManage: error: Unknown option: --portcount19:27
King_DuckZOracle VM VirtualBox Command Line Management Interface Version 4.2.24_Gentoo19:27
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lukedirtwalkerI mean the loading window appears but then it crashes, main: https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/butaca/blob/sf_integration2/src/main.cpp19:27
lukedirtwalkerdesktop: https://github.com/lukedirtwalker/butaca/blob/sf_integration2/src/harbour-butaca.desktop19:27
coderusKing_DuckZ: install virtualbox 4.3.1219:27
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coderuslukedirtwalker: #include <QtWidgets/QApplication> ?19:31
coderus#include <QGuiApplication>19:31
coderusdont mix qtwidgets with invoker silica19:32
King_DuckZah just loading the vbox modules in the kernel fixed the problem19:32
coderusKing_DuckZ: :D19:32
coderusKing_DuckZ: you might be intersted: https://katastrophos.net/andre/blog/2014/03/29/running-sailfishos-build-engine-outside-virtualbox-vm/19:33
lukedirtwalkercoderus: oh yeah that is from earlier but changing it doesn't help19:35
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M4rtinKBTW, if you just change the QML19:38
M4rtinKyou don't need to runt the full deployment cycle19:38
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M4rtinK*run19:38
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lukedirtwalkercoderus: thanks, do you have any other ideas?19:51
coderuslukedirtwalker: thinking19:52
coderusstart invoker --type=silica-qt5 appname in teminal19:52
lukedirtwalkerthat works as well19:53
coderusthen just reboot your device and desktop icon would work also19:54
lukedirtwalkercoderus: okay let me see.19:54
lukedirtwalkercoderus: you were right, thanks a lot :)19:56
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Yanielbtw, did you know this exists too? :D http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~ckingsf/software/sailfish/index.html20:08
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mad_devCan anyone point me to a freelancer willing to work for hire?20:39
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King_DuckZcoderus: very useful indeed :)20:51
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