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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 05:44 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 05:59 |
| tortoisedoc | module qt3d is not installed.. | 05:59 |
| tortoisedoc | but its available from qt5-qt3d ? | 05:59 |
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| Armadillo | Nicd-: Transifex looks really good for managing translations of open source projects :) | 06:20 |
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| Juuba | hey, my Jolla has... well... frozen kinda | 06:45 |
| Juuba | Homescreen works, i can lock and unlock it and start apps | 06:45 |
| Juuba | but: in the apps, nothing works | 06:45 |
| Juuba | I cant type anything in the terminal | 06:45 |
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| Juuba | I can access SMS messages | 06:45 |
| Juuba | them apps just seem to be frooozen | 06:46 |
| Juuba | I cant switch to airplane mode, that is one of my "go-to fix-it -tricks" | 06:46 |
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| Scelt | http://lifehacker.com/hundreds-of-dropbox-passwords-leaked-change-yours-now-1645982533 | 07:13 |
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| sthalik | hey, how much of time investment is moving to sailfish from oem/aosp/cm/debian system? | 07:13 |
| Stskeepz | err.. rephrase? | 07:14 |
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| Armadillo | sthalik: you should specify what you want to do. such generic questions are not really easy to answer | 07:20 |
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| sthalik | Armadillo: hybris for the bionic non-libc, linux-ecosystem-userland in hier, friend-of-a-friend said android abi emulation isn't necessary in 98% cases anyway since sailfish apparently has an app ecosystem (???) | 07:26 |
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| sthalik | Armadillo: i've installed debian in /vendor/armhf, then symlinks galore. already starting to hate it | 07:27 |
| sthalik | now it boots GUI, at least, finally... | 07:29 |
| sthalik | hell | 07:29 |
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| Armadillo | ^^ | 07:32 |
| Armadillo | well if you need the Android Apps or not depends on what apps you're mainly using, but it is always nice to have a fallback to Android, because yes there are many native SailfishOS app already, but for example I've bought some Android apps on the Play Store and can still use them on the Sailfish device, which is really nice | 07:32 |
| sthalik | Armadillo: note: lucky-packer-lvl-emulation | 07:34 |
| sthalik | *eg* | 07:34 |
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| sthalik | nice to know gms/play works | 07:34 |
| Armadillo | well it's abit tricky to get paid apps installed and also to install play store, but the apps work like a charm for me | 07:35 |
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| Armadillo | if your're interested, have a look here: https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/ | 07:37 |
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| sthalik | Armadillo: thanks! i'm using cm 4.1.2 google frameworks, due to crashing if otherwise :) | 07:38 |
| pp_ | http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip is no longer available tho, you have to go to shady mirrors | 07:38 |
| sthalik | pp_: aha, need put it on dropbucks | 07:38 |
| tadzik | so someone can leak your password and replace the file? :P | 07:39 |
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| sthalik | i'd get email if breakage, likely | 07:39 |
| sthalik | damn, dropbox password's the "~hard one" | 07:39 |
| sthalik | if crackage, need change at many places | 07:39 |
| sthalik | actually, not. no one's gonna break into my other accounts | 07:40 |
| sthalik | so just deal with immediate crackage-fallout, then go on as usual | 07:40 |
| sthalik | ~uploaded. new construction options. | 07:42 |
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| pp_ | for reference, sha256sum c4f20dc5e66073cc758f05fa9d31b2032efd1962eeb433703d6d241d9cc77555 gapps-jb-20121011-signed.zip is from a shady mirror, but haven't noticed signs of being pwned | 07:42 |
| pp_ | so it might be the real thing | 07:43 |
| sthalik | matches, thanks | 07:44 |
| Armadillo | there are still official mirrors online: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Google_Apps | 07:46 |
| Armadillo | CM10 ist the needed one | 07:46 |
| pp_ | yup, matches md5sum | 07:47 |
| Armadillo | :) | 07:47 |
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| pp_ | there, link to cyanogenmod & md5sum added :-) | 07:50 |
| sthalik | https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vr9n2msw88hvdjn/AAAYy8eU0xauawKxb80emKzSa?dl=0 | 07:51 |
| sthalik | :) | 07:51 |
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| Armadillo | pp_: great :) | 07:55 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 08:08 |
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| blaaa | Can I use Python to create software for Sailfish OS? | 09:45 |
| blaaa | And I wonder if ActiveSync support with multiple&shared folders/calendars is available | 09:45 |
| oh8gnz | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Python_Development | 09:46 |
| Nicd- | to the first one, yes, but it won't be accepted to harbour yet | 09:46 |
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| blaaa | oh8gnz: thanks, I think the only other platform with support for Python apps is BlackBerry | 10:23 |
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| blaaa | I will look for more info on ActiveSync support already available | 10:23 |
| coderus | blaaa: also android, no? | 10:26 |
| blaaa | coderus:coderus: I think it's possible to add on a python setup, there is no python available by default t omy knowledge | 10:27 |
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| blaaa | SL4A it is called I think | 10:28 |
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| coderus | in android you can add whatever you want | 10:35 |
| coderus | as you need to bundle everything anyway | 10:35 |
| coderus | so no difference whick backend you using | 10:36 |
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| sthalik | coderus: as a vendor? | 10:56 |
| sthalik | users can do whatnot | 10:56 |
| coderus | sthalik: vendor? what are you talking about? | 10:57 |
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| phlixi | i guess e. g. someone who publishes in play store | 11:06 |
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| coderus | yes sure | 11:08 |
| coderus | you bundle all libs in apk | 11:08 |
| coderus | if using more than android kit | 11:09 |
| coderus | qt, c#, python, whatever else | 11:09 |
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| sthalik | mount -o remount,rw /system ; mkdir /system/app/track # go from here | 11:14 |
| sthalik | s/track/trash/ :/ | 11:14 |
| sthalik | damn trash/ bigger than .. of it usually | 11:14 |
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| blaaa | does anyone know if support to shrink XFS filesystem is in the orks for linux? | 11:40 |
| blaaa | sorry wrong channel :X | 11:40 |
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| Armadillo | ^^ | 11:42 |
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| sandsmark | is there any supported crypto API? | 14:28 |
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| stephg | sandsmark: for ... ? | 14:29 |
| sandsmark | aes, for example | 14:29 |
| sandsmark | I see that NSS is installed, at least, but is it okay to use? | 14:34 |
| sandsmark | qca would've been the best | 14:34 |
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| sandsmark | NSS is a mess :D | 14:40 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmhm | 15:09 |
| tortoisedoc | this qt3d thing is becoming more and more interesting | 15:09 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: well | 15:10 |
| SK_work | when it is ready | 15:10 |
| SK_work | I didn't had the opportunity to try it on Qt 4.8 | 15:10 |
| SK_work | so cannot tell how awesome it is | 15:10 |
| tortoisedoc | SK_work : well | 15:10 |
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| tortoisedoc | SK_work : my issue is that I do not understand how it comes its available on c++ but no qml? | 15:10 |
| tortoisedoc | I mean | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | in mer | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | it is available under qt4-sdk | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | it is available under qt5-qt3d :P | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | but even after installing it in the targets, qml files complain of imports | 15:11 |
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| SK_work | ha ? | 15:11 |
| tortoisedoc | so I am doing something wrong | 15:11 |
| Yaniel | qt5 is trying to be more modular AFAIK | 15:12 |
| Yaniel | which means more separate packages | 15:12 |
| tortoisedoc | Yaniel: have you tried to use qt3d? | 15:13 |
| Yaniel | no | 15:13 |
| Yaniel | haven't had time to touch Qt5 at all | 15:13 |
| tortoisedoc | https://github.com/mer-packages/qt3d/tree/master/qt3d | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | its here | 15:14 |
| tortoisedoc | but i cant use it :| | 15:14 |
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| coderus | thp: ping | 15:24 |
| coderus | thp: stupid question, but is there possibility to use python pip on Jolla? | 15:25 |
| Nicd- | why not? | 15:25 |
| Nicd- | if you have the required dependencies | 15:25 |
| coderus | well, i want to gget python-pip from some repo on jolla :) | 15:26 |
| Nicd- | you could also get it from https://pypi.python.org/pypi/pip#downloads | 15:27 |
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| coderus | also, installing cert to /etc/ssl/certs and starting milti_c_rehash still showing warning in browser | 15:38 |
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| skvark | coderus: curl -L -o get-pip.py https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pypa/pip/master/contrib/get-pip.py and python get-pip.py | 15:41 |
| coderus | s/and/&& | 15:46 |
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| coderus | installing | 15:50 |
| coderus | no problems yet.. | 15:51 |
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| coderus | hate this: UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xd0 in position 33: ordinal not in range(128) | 15:52 |
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| Nicd- | that's life with python :) | 16:01 |
| coderus | i hate this :D | 16:01 |
| coderus | really need some internal protection for python to avoid this error | 16:02 |
| skvark | python3 is the answer | 16:02 |
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| skvark | in python2 you have think by yourself all the encoding stuff | 16:02 |
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| coderus | python3 for sailfish/nemo is in testing stage, isnt it? | 16:08 |
| skvark | hmm.. I don't know | 16:09 |
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| skvark | problem with python3 is that all the packages aren't compatible with it | 16:10 |
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| skvark | though the situation is much better now than last year | 16:10 |
| coderus | well yeah, you 'd need to rebuild everything yourself | 16:12 |
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| coderus | wtf: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8559900 | 16:15 |
| skvark | maybe it needs python-dev | 16:17 |
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| coderus | i need to increase verbodity somehow :D | 16:18 |
| coderus | verbosity* | 16:20 |
| coderus | gcc on device takes ages :D | 16:20 |
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| SK_work | coderus: why u no Mer SDK | 16:31 |
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| coderus | SK_work: because of python-pip | 16:37 |
| coderus | i dont want to copy installed files back from mersdk to device after | 16:38 |
| coderus | and now i have woeking mitmproxy on device :D | 16:38 |
| coderus | but still have problem with certificates | 16:38 |
| SK_work | coderus: :D | 16:38 |
| SK_work | ok | 16:38 |
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| locusf | hmm I have home-wifi.config in /var/lib/connman/ but connman won't connect to my configured wifi from there, what could be the problem? I'm running 1.0.25 | 19:00 |
| locusf | maybe too late to ask | 19:01 |
| locusf | also version --dup won't upgrade anything | 19:02 |
| locusf | and checking new version from Jolla store doesn't show the new version at all | 19:02 |
| Scelt | locusf: there seem to be problems with jolla store right now | 19:05 |
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| Scelt | see #jollamobile | 19:05 |
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| locusf | Scelt: oh ok | 19:06 |
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| kimmoli | hmm... SDK git-tools are missing tag (? or is it just me) | 19:09 |
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| Acce | should the TapSensor QML component work already? | 20:02 |
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| Acce | I'm trying with this code: http://pastebin.com/JtaaTGFu | 20:05 |
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| Acce | but the timestamp for the reading stays the same | 20:06 |
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| gogeta | hi guys | 20:16 |
| stephg | gogeta: demoted? | 20:17 |
| gogeta | ever | 20:17 |
| gogeta | time to ghost office pc | 20:17 |
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| \go | i giveyp | 20:18 |
| \go | http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/apps/security-policy-groups/ | 20:18 |
| \go | i'm crying | 20:18 |
| * stephg passes \go a beer | 20:19 | |
| thp | coderus: you should be able to use pip as root or with installing into nemo's home as normal user | 20:19 |
| \go | i got a fermenter with 10 liters wort in the basement | 20:19 |
| \go | hi thp | 20:19 |
| thp | coderus: bootstrap with easy_install pip or something might work too | 20:19 |
| thp | \go: yo? | 20:21 |
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| kimmoli | damn... Warning: QSocketNotifier: Invalid socket 9 and type 'Read', disabling... (kernel/qeventdispatcher_glib.cpp:89, gboolean socketNotifierSourceCheck(GSource*)) | 20:23 |
| mhall119 | \go: why does that make you cry? | 20:23 |
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| \go | seem more polished then sfos | 20:25 |
| thp | \go: did you run ubuntu on a phone recently for day-to-day stuff? | 20:26 |
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| * mhall119 does | 20:27 | |
| \go | galaxy nexus and camera works | 20:28 |
| \go | i dunno how | 20:28 |
| \go | but works | 20:28 |
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| \go | in the meanwhile I drafted few apps for sailfish | 20:29 |
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| * \go need to write xmlrequest in c++ and not in QML | 20:32 | |
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| r0kk3rz | if works | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | and open source | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | then STEEELZ IT | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | but maybe canonical has buddyed up with samsung | 20:56 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: there will be tizen, I doubt they will widely support ubuntu (maybe laptops) | 20:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | maybe, maybe not | 21:19 |
| r0kk3rz | samsungs tizen strategy has yet to really reveal itself | 21:19 |
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| kimmoli | ah. need to use context-kit statefs to get the Alarm.Present state. QSocketNotifier gets triggered all the time (pöh) | 21:23 |
| kimmoli | all examples are cmake, not qtcreator projects.. äh | 21:23 |
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