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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 05:50 |
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| tortoisedoc | ambience favourites - are they supposed to be accessible from the lockscreen as well? | 05:50 |
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| MMori | favorites yes, swipe from left or right edge of screen | 05:56 |
| MMori | the screen that displays running apps | 05:57 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 10:33 |
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| stephg | tortoisedoc they were accessible from the lockscreen in an earlier release iirc | 10:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | stephg : yes thanks, it appears they have been removed from the lockscreen - which is good cause then quickbar does not interfere with them :P | 10:41 |
| tortoisedoc | grrr | 10:42 |
| tortoisedoc | im torn between going to slush event in nov | 10:43 |
| tortoisedoc | or not :[ | 10:43 |
| tortoisedoc | I heard Jolla is going to be ther | 10:43 |
| tortoisedoc | *there | 10:43 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | tortoisedoc, is expensive ? | 11:04 |
| tortoisedoc | dr_gogeta86 : not that expensie | 11:05 |
| tortoisedoc | dr_gogeta86 : not that expensive | 11:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | 395 euros ... quiet expensive to me | 11:05 |
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| tortoisedoc | it has become quite expensive | 11:07 |
| tortoisedoc | in preivious years, you could get a student / early bird ticket for about 150 € | 11:07 |
| tortoisedoc | which also gave you access to the afterwork parties : | 11:08 |
| tortoisedoc | :P | 11:08 |
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| bhr | Hi. Is it right place to ask questions about SailfishOS API ? I writing app for Jolla and faced with lack of documentation. Maybe anybody can tell me where i can ask my questions. | 12:20 |
| SK_work | bhr: please ask here | 12:20 |
| SK_work | :) | 12:20 |
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| bhr | In general questions sound as - How to reuse functionality of build-in apps? Maybe some framework exists for this? More detailed - i need such functionality for my app: 1) pick image from Gallery; 2) take image from Camera; 3) invoke E-mail / MMS compose editor with predefined to/subject/buddy/attached fields; 4)invoke system browser with predefined url. But i don`t want to create my own Gallery or Camera UI. I want simply invoke | 12:34 |
| bhr | build-in Gallery/Camera and get image file path. | 12:34 |
| bhr | Is it exist solution for any of this tasks ? | 12:34 |
| Nicd- | no. 4 can be done in QML with Qt.openUrlExternally("http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_average"); | 12:37 |
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| bhr | Thanks. I will try it. | 12:39 |
| bhr | How to about no. 1,2 and 3 ? | 12:39 |
| Armadillo | as Nicd- already said, the answer for those is "no" ;) | 12:43 |
| Nicd- | no :D | 12:45 |
| Nicd- | it was an abbreviation for "number" | 12:45 |
| Nicd- | sorry | 12:45 |
| Nicd- | mitakuuluu can do 1-2, you could check its source for that | 12:45 |
| kimmoli | but it implements both by itself (doesn't use inbuilt gallery or camera apps) | 12:46 |
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| bhr | Nicd-: where i can get this sources? | 12:59 |
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| Nicd- | bhr: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/ | 12:59 |
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| Guhl | hi can somebody help me with a building question? | 13:06 |
| Guhl | i would like to build one component of sailfish os from sources and install it on the phone | 13:07 |
| Guhl | the goal of this exercise is to remote debug it | 13:07 |
| Guhl | in my case i would like to do this with ofono | 13:08 |
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| SK_work | Guhl: wondering | 13:14 |
| SK_work | why not install debug packages | 13:14 |
| SK_work | Guhl: however, if you want to build it, you can use obs and https://git.merproject.org/mer-core/ofono/tree/master | 13:16 |
| SK_work | or the Sailfish SDK and rpmbuild inside sb2 | 13:16 |
| Guhl | thats good enough for debugging (while i am not sure where and how i put them in the host for remote dbugging) | 13:16 |
| pp_ | speaking of debug packages, no such thing for kernel available? (looking at using systemtap, but replacing the kernel doesn't sound like fun) | 13:17 |
| SK_work | pp_: for kernel I don't know | 13:17 |
| SK_work | Guhl: can't you debug over ssh + gdb ? | 13:17 |
| pp_ | I suppose recompiling from sources should create an identical binary (and hence debuginfo would be usable) | 13:17 |
| Guhl | SK_work, in the sense of running gdb on the phone? | 13:18 |
| SK_work | Guhl: yes | 13:18 |
| Guhl | yes i can do that | 13:18 |
| Guhl | and i do that | 13:18 |
| Guhl | but for some reasons i thing that debugging in DDD or Eclipse on the host is a little bit more comfortable | 13:19 |
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| Guhl | like i.e. as i used to do this when the DZ was still running Andoird | 13:20 |
| Guhl | https://www.thinkthinkdo.com/trac/project1/wiki/gdb_remote | 13:20 |
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| Guhl | SK_work, is there a tutorial somewhere how to build with obs against sailfish latest? | 13:21 |
| Guhl | thats a part that i don't get | 13:22 |
| Guhl | i already did clone the ofono repo and build it in sb2 | 13:22 |
| SK_work | Guhl: on the git link I sent, you already have the sources packaged perfectly | 13:22 |
| SK_work | so for obs, what you need is 1. account, 2. configure one project with sailfish repos 3. put these sources in and voila | 13:23 |
| Guhl | but i had to install it rpm force and the libraries did not match | 13:23 |
| SK_work | Guhl: ha ? | 13:23 |
| SK_work | how come ? | 13:23 |
| Guhl | the version on the phone was newer ofono-1.14+git35-1.11.1.armv7hl | 13:24 |
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| Guhl | i really have to confess that i am not good with tools like zypper, rpm, ... (i come from 15 years of gentoo) | 13:25 |
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| SK_work | Guhl: don't worry it's not that hard | 13:27 |
| SK_work | hum what's the version I sent to you | 13:28 |
| Guhl | well i am not so worried, normally i learn fast - but i need some starting points | 13:28 |
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| SK_work | Guhl: hum ... | 13:28 |
| SK_work | don't know where these sources are ... | 13:28 |
| Guhl | i used the ones from nemomobile | 13:29 |
| SK_work | is there an ofono package from nemomobile ? | 13:29 |
| Guhl | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono | 13:29 |
| Guhl | thats the only one i found | 13:30 |
| SK_work | haha | 13:30 |
| SK_work | indeed it should be this one | 13:30 |
| SK_work | Guhl: if you use latest, you are actually at version mer/1.14+git57 | 13:30 |
| Guhl | the result of my build is ofono-1.14-1.armv7hl.rpm | 13:30 |
| SK_work | because this package is built via webhooks | 13:30 |
| SK_work | yes, I know, webhooks takes care of some spec customization, setting the version at 1.14+git57 | 13:31 |
| SK_work | so I think you can override version on the jolla | 13:31 |
| SK_work | or better, you should have customize the spec yourself | 13:31 |
| Guhl | thats the next thing | 13:31 |
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| Guhl | no sorry i think i solved that (how to not strip the debuginfo) | 13:32 |
| Guhl | how do you mean customize "the spec yourself" | 13:33 |
| Guhl | change release? | 13:33 |
| SK_work | Guhl: yes, change release | 13:34 |
| SK_work | rpm do strip debuginfo itself | 13:34 |
| SK_work | so just install the debuginfo package and you are done | 13:35 |
| SK_work | (no need to actually rebuild ofono actually) | 13:35 |
| Guhl | well as soon as i might want to fix things i will have to rebuild and install anyway | 13:35 |
| Guhl | while i am not sure if i have to fix things in ofono | 13:36 |
| Guhl | probably more in mer-hybris/android_hardware_ril | 13:37 |
| SK_work | Guhl: ha | 13:37 |
| SK_work | I see | 13:37 |
| SK_work | so, please do change the version and release (at least set it higher than the version in repo) | 13:37 |
| SK_work | in order not to make any update override your packet | 13:37 |
| SK_work | package | 13:37 |
| Guhl | but this questions is also a question of general interest because in the end i want to be able do develop something like a permission framework (including privacy protection and information spoofing) for Sailfish | 13:39 |
| Guhl | so i want to be able to build as much as possible from sources on my own | 13:39 |
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| Guhl | SK_work, what do i need obs for in this scenario (i would assume not at all) | 13:52 |
| SK_work | Guhl: I don't think you need obs for anything | 13:53 |
| SK_work | if you can build it in SDK | 13:53 |
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| Guhl | SK_work, thanks i'll give it another try | 14:07 |
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| marxistvegan | folks anyone have an issue installing the sdk? I get to 76% and then my system locks up on creating the virtual machine | 14:09 |
| marxistvegan | running debian linux here | 14:09 |
| SK_work | hum ... | 14:09 |
| marxistvegan | debian jessie to be specific | 14:10 |
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| Armadillo | is there a better way to handle translations with the community instead of sending/downloading ts files, translate them via linguist/text editor and send them back? online collaboration software or something like that? | 14:23 |
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| Nicd- | Armadillo: transifex, but it costs | 14:25 |
| Armadillo | hmm | 14:29 |
| Armadillo | there's an option to register open source projects for free it seems | 14:29 |
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| Armadillo | Nicd-: thanks for the hint | 14:32 |
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| Guhl | SK_work, I am currently debugging ofonod remote using gdbremote - Thanks a lot for your help | 15:46 |
| SK_work | :) | 15:46 |
| Guhl | need to run now will be back later! | 15:46 |
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| coderus | help me to remember pkcon command to refresh only single repository? | 17:26 |
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| coderus | ah, its https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/PackageKit/pull/30 | 17:48 |
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| tortoisedoc | j000 | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc | question | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc | GLWidget -> supported? | 19:01 |
| tortoisedoc | not anymore i believe right? | 19:01 |
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| coderus | QGLWidget is here | 19:05 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm ok | 19:05 |
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| tortoisedoc | but perhaps qt3d can do all the stuff I need qglwidget to do | 19:06 |
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| tortoisedoc | but qt3d is not available, right? | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | whos the main developer of pebbled? | 19:06 |
| tortoisedoc | (on jolla I mean, officially) | 19:06 |
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| tortoisedoc | oho | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | is that javispedro? | 19:07 |
| tortoisedoc | there you go :P | 19:07 |
| tortoisedoc | https://github.com/mer-packages/qt3d/tree/master/qt3d | 19:07 |
| r0kk3rz | or is he the metawatch dude | 19:07 |
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| tortoisedoc | damn | 19:08 |
| tortoisedoc | need a laptop with more RAM :P | 19:08 |
| tortoisedoc | 4 GB are not enough to fit blender + sailfishos sdk + firefox :D | 19:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | blender and firefox | 19:10 |
| r0kk3rz | theres your problem | 19:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | tortoisedoc ive given up worrying about what is officially allowed | 19:17 |
| r0kk3rz | just do what you want | 19:17 |
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| Guhl | SK_work, still here and time for one of my noob questions ? | 20:04 |
| Guhl | and why are you still at work? | 20:04 |
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| Guhl | mayne someone else knows that too: | 20:06 |
| Guhl | maybe | 20:06 |
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| Guhl | Is there an easy way to tell the mb2 build to use some other CFLAGS (i.e. in the spec file) | 20:06 |
| Guhl | i would like to build with O0 by default instead of O2 | 20:06 |
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| kimmoli | just guessing... %configure CFLAGS= | 20:16 |
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| Guhl | kimmoli, well i would know a king of dirty trick in %configure | 20:29 |
| Guhl | like: | 20:29 |
| Guhl | %configure \ | 20:29 |
| Guhl | --program-prefix="%{?_program_prefix}" | 20:29 |
| Guhl | #%{__make} %{?_smp_mflags} | 20:29 |
| Guhl | %{__make} %{?_smp_mflags} CFLAGS="-O2 -g -pipe -Wall -Wp,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fexceptions -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -m64 -mtune=generic -Werror -pedantic-errors -Wno-unused-variable -ansi -std=c99" | 20:29 |
| Guhl | but for that i need to give the complete CFLAGS | 20:30 |
| Guhl | i thought there might be an easy way to just the it to replace O2 by O0 | 20:30 |
| kimmoli | ah | 20:32 |
| kimmoli | isnt defaults in %optflags or something? | 20:32 |
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| energycsdx | are any SDK update planned? | 21:06 |
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| stephg | energycsdx: they've tended to quickly follow the updates; there was a discussion about it with this one (because of the Qt change) and it'll be following shortly after u9 | 21:08 |
| stephg | (so they said) | 21:08 |
| stephg | given that u9 has slipped as much as it has (understandably) that the new SDK will be very quick to follow | 21:08 |
| stephg | I would imagine | 21:08 |
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| M4rtinK | is there already a TJC question for documentation bugs ? | 21:12 |
| M4rtinK | just found another one :D | 21:12 |
| tigeli | M4rtinK: https://together.jolla.com/question/13280/whats-missing-in-the-user-guide/ | 21:15 |
| M4rtinK | tigeli: well, I should have been more concrete | 21:15 |
| M4rtinK | I meant the developer documentation, Silica reference guide to be concrete | 21:16 |
| tigeli | hehe | 21:16 |
| tigeli | for that I can't say | 21:17 |
| stephg | energycsdx: just been trawling the archives for sailfish-devel and I remember reading somewhere a post about how the SDK would follow the release | 21:17 |
| stephg | but I can't find it; I *think* it was from a request from BasilSemuonov_ but I'm probably wrong | 21:18 |
| M4rtinK | (https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-progressbar.html#indeterminate-prop is declared as real while it is a bool) | 21:18 |
| BasilSemuonov_ | stephg, yea, asked at tjc about that | 21:18 |
| stephg | ther | 21:19 |
| stephg | oops | 21:19 |
| stephg | was that tjc or on -devel or in here or a meeting? I could swear it was on the mailing list or in a meeting | 21:19 |
| stephg | tjc then | 21:20 |
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| BasilSemuonov_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/55909/official-announcement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/#comment-55913 and few comments later kaltsi said that sdk will be updated after sfos gets update | 21:21 |
| stephg | energycsdx: ^^ | 21:21 |
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| stephg | thanks BasilSemuonov_ :) | 21:21 |
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