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| coderus | kimmoli: there is no public release of new update yet | 03:52 |
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| coderus | still need to fix some bugs before pushing it out for everybody :) | 03:52 |
| coderus | i dont want to force common users to upgrade to buggy version | 03:52 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: ok | 06:15 |
| kimmoli | is there any open flashlight apps out there? | 06:15 |
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| kimmoli | just need a comand-line version. --on --off | 06:17 |
| kimmoli | off can be done by killing the process too | 06:17 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/flash_adp1650/mode | 06:39 |
| coderus | kimmoli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8385461 | 06:40 |
| coderus | flashlight toggle script | 06:40 |
| coderus | using it with powermenu, double click when locked :) | 06:41 |
| kimmoli | ooo | 06:41 |
| kimmoli | coderus: thanks. | 06:41 |
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| kimmoli | it goes for diptoh... | 06:42 |
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| coderus | cool :) | 06:51 |
| coderus | #Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-5 bugfix released. Settings now really really really fixed, muting fixed to :D https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 06:51 |
| coderus | kimmoli: h, for diptoh it need state | 06:57 |
| kimmoli | ? | 07:00 |
| coderus | i mean on/off state | 07:04 |
| coderus | you can't check flash state with this way | 07:05 |
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| kimmoli | i just echo 1 when dip turned on, and echo 0 when turned off. no need for storing state | 07:06 |
| coderus | this way suitable for toggling with single click | 07:06 |
| coderus | well, ok, you can click it twice if not worked from beginning :) | 07:07 |
| coderus | good :) | 07:07 |
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| kimmoli | why not readback that mode from sysfs? | 07:07 |
| kimmoli | aa test, i see | 07:08 |
| coderus | aha | 07:08 |
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| kimmoli | what else you could toggle from dips? good :) | 08:18 |
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| kimmoli | bluetooh, filghtmode, silent, display-always-on, flashlight, aliendalvik ? | 08:21 |
| Morpog_PC | im presence? | 08:21 |
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| kimmoli | if you can do that from commandline, yes. | 08:22 |
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| TemeV | kimmoli: wlan, 3G, 4G etch | 08:33 |
| TemeV | -h | 08:33 |
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| kimmoli | running out of switches soon, but on=wifi, off=mobile would be useful sometimes | 08:35 |
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| TemeV | 4G switch might be useful. 4G increases battery consumption, so you could switch it on only when in need of fast internet | 08:36 |
| tbr | have you verified that with measurements? I'd expect LTE to be actually more power efficient than 3G | 08:37 |
| TemeV | just empirical tests | 08:37 |
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| TemeV | I'm not really sure about that though | 08:38 |
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| TemeV | At first it felt like battery life shortened after I started using LTE, but now I'm not sure anymore | 08:39 |
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| tbr | unfortunately even proper measurements (replacing battery, etc) would be highly operator specific | 08:42 |
| kimmoli | and what would be justified measurement? | 08:42 |
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| kimmoli | just standby or batter%/transferred Bytes | 08:42 |
| TemeV | some mixture of both I guess | 08:43 |
| tbr | run identical network side scenarios on both, preferably something close to real life usage | 08:43 |
| TemeV | to simulate "normal usage" | 08:43 |
| kimmoli | yes. but does LTE benefit on faster data throughput? more time on idle than with 3G ? | 08:44 |
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| kimmoli | if the scenario is to download 7 cat-videos ? | 08:44 |
| TemeV | Obviously, byt does it consume more in idle? | 08:44 |
| tbr | it will be mostly about network power management | 08:45 |
| kimmoli | (as close real-life as simulation could get) | 08:45 |
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| TemeV | yes, mW per cat video should be some official measurement of efficiency :) | 08:46 |
| kimmoli | cv/h ? | 08:46 |
| tbr | though LTE was designed with power efficiency and IP data in mind (as opposed to most 3G technologies) | 08:46 |
| TemeV | kimmoli: that would be unit for download speed, yes | 08:47 |
| tbr | the race through all power states on 3G is insane and highly operator controlled | 08:47 |
| TemeV | Well, I installed system monitor few days ago and have been using only 4G. I'm planning to switch it to 3G for few days next week and see if there is difference in my "real life use" | 08:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i get pretty good life with 3g | 08:49 |
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| TemeV | Is there some good getting started guide for qt? | 09:06 |
| r0kk3rz | the examples in the SDK are pretty good | 09:08 |
| r0kk3rz | and then start digging into the qt documentation | 09:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | the saildev blog has some fairly good 'getting started' type posts | 09:10 |
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| TemeV | ok, I'll start with those | 09:11 |
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| coderus | Uploaded #Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-6 bugfix. Muting contacts should work now. | 09:40 |
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| Morpog_PC | really really really? :D | 10:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | Morpog_PC: not really, coderus is just bumping his download stats | 10:04 |
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| Morpog_PC | r0kk3rz, i hinted to his commit messages ;) | 10:07 |
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| YasigiWalter | Hi | 11:51 |
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| YasigiWalter | how does one prevent the photo collection from having pictures from the web browser cache in it? | 11:52 |
| tbr | sounds like tracker hicup | 11:55 |
| YasigiWalter | tracker? | 11:56 |
| YasigiWalter | (although it would be nice to have a bug tracker) | 11:57 |
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| Nicd- | tracker is the daemon which indexes all the images and videos | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | it's often too eager, I wish it was configurable | 11:59 |
| YasigiWalter | ah | 12:02 |
| YasigiWalter | but is it fixable for a user or is it a matter of waiting for another release of Sailfish? | 12:02 |
| inte | tbr my smartwatch is release 1.5.2 | 12:02 |
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| inte | the jolla tools seems.somewhat buggy | 12:03 |
| inte | it appears to need a restart to rexonnect to the watch after connection was lost | 12:03 |
| inte | sometimes notifications are just a blank screen | 12:04 |
| inte | and there is no notification for incomming calls | 12:04 |
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| inte | right? | 12:04 |
| inte | i know its alpha state | 12:04 |
| inte | just want to know if you have the same issues | 12:05 |
| inte | or if i could get rid ofbsome | 12:05 |
| inte | e.g. by flashing a newer firmware to the watch if there is any | 12:05 |
| tbr | inte: that sounds pretty accurate | 12:06 |
| inte | cool thanks | 12:06 |
| tbr | inte: I think I have 1.5.3 which apparently had some fixes/changes | 12:06 |
| inte | oh i have 1.5.3 as well | 12:07 |
| inte | just checked | 12:07 |
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| inte | oh 1.5.3 seems recent | 12:09 |
| inte | current | 12:09 |
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| inte | just saw that id need a windows pc to reflash it anyways | 12:11 |
| inte | which i dont have at present | 12:11 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: lol :D | 12:39 |
| coderus | its trials and fails every time | 12:40 |
| coderus | i writed my own backend for dconf, but based on nemomobile ones of course :) | 12:40 |
| coderus | just mine have more features :) | 12:40 |
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| Guhl99 | can somebody point me to a documentation how sailfish os and it's apps handle access rights to sensor and other information like i.e. phonbook/calendar entries ? | 14:44 |
| javispedro | it's mostly non-existent | 14:44 |
| Guhl99 | the documentation or an access right system in general | 14:45 |
| javispedro | the later | 14:45 |
| Guhl99 | well then i'll have a lot of work in front of me | 14:46 |
| javispedro | if you want to help design it, see https://together.jolla.com/question/9670/api-security-model/ | 14:46 |
| javispedro | it you want to know what's currently "verbotten", https://together.jolla.com/question/27995/how-secure-is-the-app-system-currently/ | 14:46 |
| javispedro | Guhl99: a lot of work? | 14:46 |
| Guhl99 | well i spent the last 2 years or so developing a so calle permission spoofing framework on android | 14:47 |
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| Guhl99 | where you could define on a per app basis if the app receives the real sensor info | 14:48 |
| Guhl99 | none | 14:48 |
| Guhl99 | or a spoofed/faked one | 14:48 |
| Guhl99 | but i had to give up this development as google is moving a lot of the apis to sensor data | 14:49 |
| Guhl99 | into their closed source play-services | 14:49 |
| Guhl99 | but i think that it is very important (from a privacy point of view) to have something like this | 14:49 |
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| Guhl99 | especially on an open source phone os | 14:50 |
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| faenil | Guhl99: indeed! | 14:51 |
| faenil | your project looks very interesting | 14:51 |
| Guhl99 | to give you an idea of my work this is one of the threads | 14:51 |
| Guhl99 | http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/development/rom-permission-spoofing-framework-aosp-t2572396 | 14:51 |
| Guhl99 | where i described it and hosted a rom for the mako | 14:51 |
| javispedro | Guhl99: join the security API talks | 14:52 |
| Guhl99 | javispedro, i definitely will | 14:53 |
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| Guhl99 | i am using a jolla now for about 3 month as my primary phone and now i am starting to shift my developing priority to sailfish os | 14:54 |
| Guhl99 | currently i am trying to port sailfish os to the HTC vision | 14:54 |
| faenil | great to hear that :) | 14:54 |
| Guhl99 | (which gives me a good start to get used to the architecture and the dev environment) | 14:55 |
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| Guhl99 | and i want to have my hardware keyboard back :-) | 14:56 |
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| faenil | (AD: feel free to join #nemomobile if you're also interested in an OS which is OSS from core to UI, with the same foundation as sailfish :) ) | 14:56 |
| Guhl99 | i am idling around there already :-) | 14:57 |
| faenil | Guhl99: right, I should have checked :P | 14:58 |
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| javispedro | from to time the UI gets into a "state" where fully swiping a window, side to side, trying to minimize it will actually cancel the action | 15:25 |
| javispedro | so the only way to minimize is to swipe it half-way only and then release the finger | 15:26 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-7 bugfix uploaded. Muting settings now really fixed. Update and search for new bugs. | 17:00 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-8 with really fixed gallery download option uploaded: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 18:19 |
| kimmoli | coderus: trending, "fix" -> "really fix" | 18:23 |
| kimmoli | i dont keep up with the updates :) | 18:23 |
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| coderus | -> really really fix :D | 18:25 |
| coderus | dconf is a bit surprising sometimes :) | 18:25 |
| kimmoli | swear on mother's grave -fixed | 18:26 |
| coderus | i still have some warnings i dont understand sources :) | 18:26 |
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| kimmoli | uh | 18:26 |
| kimmoli | did i hear you imported sources and made your own? | 18:26 |
| coderus | it come from gobject (dconf), and doesnt point to some special mistake in code | 18:26 |
| coderus | but everytime it seems like working for me :) | 18:27 |
| coderus | kimmoli: dconf? | 18:27 |
| kimmoli | y | 18:27 |
| coderus | yes i did dconfagent and dconfitem for myself with extended features | 18:27 |
| coderus | check sources | 18:27 |
| coderus | https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/tree/master/dconf | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | i'm having battle with paint atm... | 18:28 |
| coderus | nemomobile gyus asking for some "unittests" to merge | 18:28 |
| coderus | i have no idea what is it :) | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | something to eat i presume | 18:33 |
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| coderus | :D | 19:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | coderus: why the switch from qsettings to dconf? | 19:18 |
| coderus | qsettings weak and loosing content if application crashed | 19:19 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats a bit shit | 19:21 |
| coderus | and it's nice to work in asynchronous mode :) | 19:22 |
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| lpotter | qsettings shouldn't loose content if used right, even with crashes | 19:49 |
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| coderus | lpotter: check this: https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-21739 | 19:57 |
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| lpotter | like I said, _shouldn't_ .. :) | 20:04 |
| coderus | lpotter: i digged in this bug for a long time | 20:05 |
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| kimmoli | grr... "Ok, last deploy - now it works" >> :-1: error: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection | 20:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah its an annoying bug | 21:19 |
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| SaberAltria | Hello | 22:23 |
| SaberAltria | How can I convert a string type to id | 22:23 |
| SaberAltria | For example, if the user type "1234", then it will show the contents in the array named "1234" | 22:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | toint() function on a qstring | 22:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | or instead of an array you can use a qvariantmap which uses a string key | 22:29 |
| SaberAltria | r0kk3rz How it works with toint() ? | 22:31 |
| SaberAltria | Because I mean I want to use the user input to locate an array | 22:32 |
| SaberAltria | if the user type "abc" then it should show the data in array named "abc" | 22:33 |
| SaberAltria | Why I want to do is trying to prevent using regexp and search for that keyword | 22:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | toinit wont work, i misunderstood | 22:41 |
| r0kk3rz | *toint | 22:41 |
| r0kk3rz | toint converts QString = "1234" to Int = 1234 | 22:42 |
| r0kk3rz | i suggest you use a qvariantmap, then you have no problem | 22:43 |
| r0kk3rz | pass the user input straight into the qvariantmap | 22:43 |
| r0kk3rz | possibly with some validation first | 22:43 |
| SaberAltria | OK, then I have to write C++ :( | 22:44 |
| r0kk3rz | cpp isnt so bad | 22:46 |
| r0kk3rz | you're really limiting yourself by only sticking to QML | 22:46 |
| r0kk3rz | http://qt-project.org/forums/viewthread/16723 | 22:47 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like you can do it in JS if thats more your thing | 22:48 |
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| SaberAltria | BTW, C++ speed and performance is really better | 22:52 |
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