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entilhappy datetime.datetime.now()08:08
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zGrrmoin :)09:11
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Armadillo"Locked in QA" on harbour means there's a QA running for the last submitted package?11:37
nazaninArmadillo: yes11:37
Armadillodamn11:37
nazaninArmadillo: what's the app?11:37
Armadillolast release had a bug11:37
ArmadilloTaskList11:37
Armadillowas to late to push the fix11:37
nazaninArmadillo: do you have the fix for it now?11:37
Armadilloyes11:37
nazaninI'll unlock it now11:38
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nazaninArmadillo: you can take the app and put the fix there :)11:38
Armadillothank you, submitted the fix11:38
nazaninno prob :) is it okay to lock it now again?11:38
Armadillosorry for the trouble11:38
Armadillosure :)11:38
nazaninno problem :)11:39
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ArmadilloI love this great IRC support :)11:40
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nazaninArmadillo: it's kinda out of luck if Harbour QA see developers' comments here when they are not pinged or anything11:41
Armadillobetter than no luck ;D11:42
nazaninglad I could help,though :P11:42
Armadillo=)11:43
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r0kk3rzany word on how qt 5.2 is going? you guys are running out of september :P12:26
Armadillolol :D12:26
tadzikhehe12:26
Sceltr0kk3rz: they asked for more time12:27
Scelthttps://together.jolla.com/question/55909/official-annoucement-uitukka-is-just-around-the-corner-hold-on/12:27
tadziklet us deliver, for a change :)12:27
r0kk3rzyeah i know about that12:27
r0kk3rznobody wants a broken update, so its important to get right12:27
Armadillowhere the hell has lupdate gone to on my machine... O_o12:28
Armadilloah there it is, it seems it's time to start the weekend^^12:29
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TemeVhas anyone tried to compile this for sailfish yet https://launchpad.net/libqtelegram ?15:14
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r0kk3rzcoderus: where do the mitakuuluu app logs live?15:55
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TemeVr0kk3rz: under /tmp/ i think16:09
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r0kk3rzTemeV: thanks, got them16:17
coderusr0kk3rz: in /tmp16:21
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coderuslate me :D16:21
r0kk3rzyeah, now to try and make sense of it all16:21
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coderusr0kk3rz: you can start in terminal to see logs :)16:28
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Nicd-hey, how can I replace an element on my QML page?16:30
Nicd-for example if I have Foo { id: fooElement }, can I say fooElement = anotherFooElement;?16:30
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coderusNicd-: you can't replace elements16:50
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coderusNicd-: you need to use Loader and change components to load16:50
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Nicd-ok, so can I set its 'item'?16:51
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coderushttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qml-qtquick-loader.html <- RTFM16:52
r0kk3rzloader looks useful, didnt know about that one16:52
coderusr0kk3rz: OMG :D16:52
r0kk3rzi'm fairly new to qt :P16:53
coderusok ok, just let me smile :)16:53
Nicd-coderus: you could also try being nice :P16:53
coderusNicd-: i'm tired today, too many dirty work :(16:55
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r0kk3rzcoderus: what do you do for work?17:03
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coderusr0kk3rz: as usual: pipes, plumbing communications, water mixers and etc. :D17:16
r0kk3rzsounds fun17:17
r0kk3rzi thought it might be more computer oriented17:18
coderusunfortunately not17:19
coderusin my city it's hard to get IT work17:19
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coderusthere is a lot of factories and only low staff needed17:19
r0kk3rzthat kinda sucks, but not everywhere is good for everything17:20
coderusit's why i really want to relocate to Fi17:20
coderusand be happy to work just for eat, room and clothes :)17:21
r0kk3rzyeah well from what I hear Fi isnt doing so great for it work either17:21
coderusell, i'm talking about Jolla :)17:22
coderuswell*17:22
r0kk3rzyeah that would be nice17:22
r0kk3rztampere is a cool place17:22
Siddestockholm is the centre for it work in europe17:23
Siddeper capita that is17:24
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Siddei think also money spent on startups. But i can't google myself to that source anymore. Published in economist during last year17:25
r0kk3rzhavent been to sweden yet, but soon17:25
tbrr0kk3rz: tampere IT job market is pretty dead IMO17:26
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tbrThe Nokia^wMicrosoft blood shed continues17:26
r0kk3rzyeah i met a bunch of guys whilst i were there who said the same thing17:26
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tbrthere is probably also other stuff, but that's just different scale17:27
coderusanyway, i really really fixed settings in mitakuuluu, but please build it from sources yourself. I have weak connection here. Will upload release tomoroow asap. Time to sleep now. Very tired.17:27
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r0kk3rzyeah well i'm having zero luck here in the uk, so i'll be headed back to aus17:28
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Nicd-tbr: my company is frantically hiring though ;)17:29
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coderusoh, seems i can upload it in next minutes, found free wifi spot near me :)17:30
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tbrNicd-: if they need an alrounder with business sense and a masters in kicking ass and taking names, let's talk. ;)17:31
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Nicd-well, we're mainly looking for developers I think, but it never hurts to ask!17:32
tbrffs, I'm looking for something like a  project/engineering manager position, but am currently knee deep in Buildroot and an ARM based IoT system17:33
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r0kk3rzNicd-: if they want an awesome australian who doesnt speak finnish, id totally work in finland :)17:33
TemeVr0kk3rz: in most of the companies it doesn't matter if you don't speak finnish17:35
TemeVin it I mean17:35
tbrthe hiring process wants you to believe something else though17:35
tbrstill IT is probably one of the easier things17:36
tbrapparently it's super hard to get a job in cleaning (sic!) if you don't speak fluent (sic!) finnish17:36
r0kk3rzTemeV: well thats good then, because I really dont speak finnish17:37
TemeVtbr: yeah, in non-engineering stuff Finnish is usually required17:37
TemeVr0kk3rz: in my company there is lot's of people who don't speak finnish and all the companywide communication is in English17:38
tbrTemeV: the thing is that in most other countries, random cleaning is a typical low wage "can be done by anyone" job17:38
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TemeVtbr: yeah, that's how it should be in Finland also17:39
TemeVbut what I've heard, it's not17:39
tbrsupposedly there's some movement in helsinki on that17:39
TemeVin IT, there is lot's of jobs where only language requirement is English17:40
TemeVmeaning, nowing Finnish is only a bonus17:40
TemeV*knowin17:40
TemeVg17:40
TemeVtoo much beer, can't type anymore17:40
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tbrheh17:42
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TemeVwhy is sailfish sdk saying "bash: /home/src1/: is a directory" when I try to compile17:44
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TemeVseems like there is something wrong with virtual box and shared folders17:50
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r0kk3rzit makes sense in europe though17:53
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r0kk3rzparticularly if you're a smallish country with its own language17:53
r0kk3rzthat nobody else speaks17:53
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coderusPublished Mitakuuluu v0.8.8-4 bugfix update. Please update and report bugs as soon as possible.17:59
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r0kk3rzcoderus: Loader is awesome, totally what I needed but didnt know to ask18:21
TemeVnow that I got my sdk working, I noticed this libqtelegram needs some qt5.2 stuff18:24
TemeVmaybe, I'll just have to wait18:25
coderusTemeV: whaich stuff?18:26
coderuswhich*18:26
TemeVat least QLoggingCategory18:26
TemeVmaybe I'll try to comment out everything related to that and hope there isn't anything else18:27
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Nicd-damn I'm not getting the hang of Loader18:36
coderusNicd-: ?18:37
r0kk3rzNicd-: its gotta be a component, or a single top level item18:38
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coderusNicd-: you need to set source ot sourceComponent, item is output, not imput component.18:39
Nicd-r0kk3rz: how can I give it an item?18:39
Nicd-I want to give it a specific instance of a component18:39
Nicd-created with component.createObject(parent)18:40
r0kk3rzthats a bit tricker than what im doing, which is loading a qml file18:40
Nicd-if I give an object created with that directly, it complains that "Cannot assign QObject* to QQmlComponent*"18:41
r0kk3rzwrap it in a Component object?18:41
Nicd-how do I do that in JS?18:42
TemeVnoob question: In src/outboundpkt.h there is '#include "types/inputpeer.h"' and that file is in /src/types/inputpeer.h How can I get compiler to find that file. If I change it to ../types/inputbeer.h it works, but I don't want to "fix" them all18:45
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TemeVsorry, it is /src/core/outboundpkt.h18:46
r0kk3rzNicd-: in JS? no idea18:46
kimmolicoderus: mitäkuuluu wants to install 8.7-1...18:47
Nicd-thing is, I'm creating listviews and I have a page where I want to show one of them18:47
Nicd-so I want to replace the listview item on that page with some other listview18:47
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r0kk3rzi have code that does that,18:54
r0kk3rzbut its all code I hacked out of the people app, so i'm not super familiar with all its magic18:55
r0kk3rzthe answer is probably in here somewhere https://github.com/r0kk3rz/sailfish-alphabet-sort/blob/master/qml/pages/AlphaMenuGroupView.qml18:58
r0kk3rzit uses _currentResultsList and _alternateResultsList and swaps between them for different menus18:59
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Nicd-r0kk3rz: can you point any specific place?19:12
Nicd-in that code19:12
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r0kk3rzseems to use the createobject method that you're using19:13
r0kk3rzhttps://github.com/r0kk3rz/sailfish-alphabet-sort/blob/master/qml/pages/AlphaMenuGroupView.qml#L3919:13
Nicd-apparently the magic happens on lines 52-54?19:14
r0kk3rzsomewhere19:15
r0kk3rzits pretty messy, and might have a lot of dead code19:15
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r0kk3rzim not 100% sure exactly how it works, but the result is pretty cool19:16
r0kk3rzbut i think its using a direct assignment, like you wanted to. rather than using a loader19:20
Nicd-yeah, I'm trying that now19:21
r0kk3rzlike line 13019:21
Nicd-I get no errors but the list I'm replacing isn't rendered either19:21
Nicd-so I have an Item { id: foo } and I say 'foo = anotherList'19:22
r0kk3rzon line 150 its doing some more magic19:25
r0kk3rzlike stiching the replacement item to its parent19:26
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Nicd-yeah, I'm setting anchors and parent and stuff too but for some reason it doesn't show up19:31
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louisdkIf I do a backup on my Jolla phone and safe it, then reset my phone and restore the backup witch settings will then be lost? Ambiances and installed apps? What more?19:37
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satmdaccounts are restored, but don't seem to work sometimes, so keep your passwords ready19:49
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Nicd-how can I reparent an item?20:17
Nicd-apparently foo.parent = otheritem; is not enough20:18
Nicd-because then otheritem.children won't contain foo20:18
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Sailor5627hello sailors! when i trie to install any package using warehouse, gives me the connection failed error.  failed to connect to sailfish.openrepos.net port 80: network is unreachble20:21
Sailor5627try*20:21
Sailor5627i'm on nexus 4 port of sailfish20:22
Nicd-it opens for me, is your network working?20:22
BasilSemuonov_does it resolve correctly?20:22
BasilSemuonov_ping it20:22
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BasilSemuonov_should resolve to 88.198.208.108 or 2a01:4f8:160:5104::220:23
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Sailor5627it pings correctly20:23
Sailor5627i'll try to add the address in /etc/hosts20:24
BasilSemuonov_add ipv4, and try to curl or wget http://sailfish.openrepos.net/openrepos.key for example20:25
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Sailor5627now works! i've added a line in /etc/hosts with the ip.and the domainname20:30
Sailor5627thanks! its my 2nd day with sailfish, and i'm loving!20:31
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Sailor5627maybe its a problem with dns, i'm using the google's dns 8.8.8.820:33
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BasilSemuonov_Sailor5627, that should be fine20:38
Sailor5627BasilSemuonov_: yep20:41
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TemeVand libqtelegram compiles and cli test-app seems to be working on sailfish \o/21:42
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r0kk3rzTemeV: what is libtelegram?21:55
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TemeVlibrary for telegram22:04
r0kk3rzthis ? https://telegram.org/22:05
TemeVyup22:05
r0kk3rzlooks cool22:05
r0kk3rznever heard of it before22:05
TemeVit's kinda new22:05
r0kk3rzi like the idea though, ive always thought there should be an open protocol based whatsapp thing22:05
TemeVserver side is still closed source though22:06
r0kk3rzhopefully that will change, so people can run their own22:06
TemeVI don't think it will happen22:06
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TemeVAnd you still have to trust the server, except with "secret chats"22:08
TemeVbut I think it's still better than whatsapp, just not as popular22:08
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r0kk3rzyeah well22:09
r0kk3rzwhatsapp is owned by fb22:09
r0kk3rzwhich pretty much says it all22:09
TemeVhmm... who owns telegram :) I've no idea22:10
r0kk3rzhopefully nobody major22:12
TemeVThere seems to be a couple of rich russian guys behind it22:12
TemeVWell, I hope they have fun reading my messages :)22:15
TemeVI don't really care22:15
r0kk3rzshould have end to end encryption on by default22:21
r0kk3rzall new protocols should22:21
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