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| ryukafalz | Odd, my messaging app just got into a bit of a strange state... | 01:48 |
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| ryukafalz | presence showed me as offline, but I was in fact online and could receive messages, which mc-tool confirmed | 01:48 |
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| stephg | morning guys | 06:37 |
| stephg | ryukafalz: think that's a known thing, happens to me quite alot | 06:37 |
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| tortoisedoc | r0kk3rz : valar updoris :D | 09:05 |
| kimmoli | What else ON/OFF things could be controlled by dipswitches? (diptoh) > http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1439380&postcount=78 | 09:06 |
| tortoisedoc | (meaning all jollas must update) | 09:06 |
| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : wuz a dipswitch | 09:06 |
| kimmoli | dat oldskool way of setting things ? | 09:06 |
| r0kk3rz | not yet :( | 09:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | im sure the jolla update servers are getting hammered by everyone checking | 09:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: i dont really get the point of dipswitches to control things that are ultimately controlled by software anyway | 09:11 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: i can't help on that | 09:12 |
| phlixi | r0kk3rz: but you use the volume rocker, right? | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | it would be good to bake into the original design of the phone | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | like a lot of laptops have a wireless switch | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | that actually physically disconnects the wireless | 09:13 |
| kimmoli | most of them just signal SW to switchoff | 09:13 |
| r0kk3rz | not the ones we had at work, its a DOD requirement or something | 09:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | kimmoli : sw switches are way better than dipswitches | 09:15 |
| tortoisedoc | imo | 09:15 |
| r0kk3rz | phlixi: yeah but they're buttons, id use media buttons as well if I had them | 09:15 |
| phlixi | i guess you could use a switch also as a button | 09:16 |
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| phlixi | its just a switch could do more than a button | 09:16 |
| * zGrr is badly missing pgup/pgdown buttons in phones, tablets and bookreaders. | 09:17 | |
| r0kk3rz | could also be an idea to incorporate dip switches into a sensor toh, to disable sensors so they dont draw power | 09:17 |
| kimmoli | that is called "powerswitch" :) | 09:17 |
| kimmoli | but you can do that through sw/app also, i2c controlled powerswitch | 09:17 |
| r0kk3rz | true | 09:17 |
| r0kk3rz | but i meant say you have a toh with multiple extra sensors, and you wanted to switch off some but not all | 09:18 |
| r0kk3rz | could probably put the sensors to idle from software, but not full disconnect | 09:18 |
| kimmoli | but you can use e.g. gpio-expander (as in diptoh) and high-side switch | 09:19 |
| kimmoli | or power them directly from GPIO if the are low-power enough, say <10mA | 09:19 |
| kimmoli | which is a-lot when speaking about low-power | 09:19 |
| kimmoli | jollas gpio/int pin can be used without VDD on, so mechanical switch can be used to make interrupt, and then wakeup VDD (other stuff on TOH) | 09:20 |
| r0kk3rz | ah yeah thats cool | 09:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | i guess for diptoh, just build the hardware and let people hack them for their own purposes | 09:21 |
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| kimmoli | yes, current daemon just runs dip1on, dip1off scripts when switch is toggled. | 09:22 |
| r0kk3rz | or write base interface for software developers | 09:22 |
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| kimmoli | that can be found here https://github.com/kimmoli/diptoh-daemon | 09:23 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah more flexible the better | 09:25 |
| r0kk3rz | then other people can come up with diptoh modules for specific tasks | 09:26 |
| r0kk3rz | which individuals can set how they want | 09:26 |
| kimmoli | that was the idea, no need to rebuild daemon if changing functions. | 09:29 |
| kimmoli | just provide some defaults/examples | 09:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah true | 09:39 |
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| stephg | random question should anyone know here (unrelated to anything): where do linux capabilities get 'set' in the kernel? | 10:29 |
| stephg | i.e. how do I persist them | 10:29 |
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| r0kk3rz | usually you just call modprobe in a script that happens on boot | 10:36 |
| r0kk3rz | systemd might have its own method to enable kernel modules on boot i guess | 10:37 |
| r0kk3rz | looks like on jolla you create a conf file in /etc/modprobe.d | 10:39 |
| r0kk3rz | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/kernel_modules#Loading | 10:39 |
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| stephg | hm, don't think capabilities(7) get set there | 10:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | stephg: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5737 ?? | 10:49 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure if that helps, ive never done anything with kernel capabillities | 10:49 |
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| stephg | r0kk3rz: that's getting closer, ta | 10:54 |
| r0kk3rz | its a pretty old post, so things may have moved on a little from then | 10:54 |
| stephg | yeah, lcap doesn't exist any more for one :) | 10:55 |
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| Hartzi | Hey, does anyone have idea what's this about: http://pastebin.com/S6F2wke9 I tried to start my app from sdk on jolla but it doesn't work :/ It used to work some time ago | 10:58 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 10:59 |
| antoniolatiano | hello everyone | 10:59 |
| m4g0g | how to check in qmake that 2 options is not empty? | 10:59 |
| m4g0g | !isEmpty(First)... !isEmpty(Second) | 11:00 |
| Merbot | m4g0g: Error: "isEmpty(First)..." is not a valid command. | 11:00 |
| DevBot` | m4g0g: Error: "isEmpty(First)..." is not a valid command. | 11:00 |
| m4g0g | !isEmpty(First)... !isEmpty(Second) | 11:00 |
| antoniolatiano | sledges i have to talk with you about the early adopters images of salfish os for nexus 4 | 11:01 |
| antoniolatiano | i can? | 11:01 |
| sledges | antoniolatiano: hi, yes in #sailfishos-porters | 11:02 |
| antoniolatiano | no i only want to notify you to cancel my email because i have broke my nexus :-( | 11:05 |
| antoniolatiano | i need to talk with the guys in #sailfish-porters? | 11:06 |
| antoniolatiano | sorry for my english | 11:06 |
| sledges | sorry to hear, will take you off the list | 11:07 |
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| antoniolatiano | ok thank you, you need my email or you can find me by username? | 11:08 |
| sledges | i'll find by username | 11:08 |
| antoniolatiano | thank you, when sailfish will be available for Lg G3 (bootloader allowing) will be the first thing i do | 11:10 |
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| ryukafalz | stephg: Hmm, I hope it's a known thing, as I have no clue how to reproduce it at the moment. | 11:56 |
| ryukafalz | If I filed a bug report it wouldn't be very helpful I'd imagine :< | 11:57 |
| stephg | pretty sure it's in tjc | 11:57 |
| stephg | I have it where it flatly refuses (or appears to refuse) to say, sign into gtalk when it's online with FB | 11:57 |
| ryukafalz | ah, that's not quite my issue | 12:01 |
| ryukafalz | I only have one account currently | 12:01 |
| ryukafalz | and it says it's offline for that account in the UI but in reality it's not | 12:01 |
| stephg | I'd not looked with mc-tool to see the state last time it did it, I'll look next time | 12:02 |
| stephg | ryukafalz: what transport is that account? | 12:03 |
| ryukafalz | XMPP | 12:03 |
| stephg | k | 12:03 |
| ryukafalz | /gabble | 12:03 |
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| kempe | 3/join #WOW | 12:38 |
| Sail0r | r0kk3rz: I don't know why but it still does not build in my env | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | error? | 12:39 |
| r0kk3rz | did i break the git again... | 12:39 |
| r0kk3rz | because i'm running the current build on my phone now | 12:39 |
| Sail0r | I just did a clean repo init ^^ | 12:39 |
| Sail0r | let's try it with this | 12:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | gits not showing any uncommitted changes | 12:41 |
| Sail0r | http://fpaste.org/133866/10871233/ | 12:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | the line its complaining about looks fine through the gitexplorer | 12:46 |
| r0kk3rz | rebuilt on my local env fine | 12:46 |
| r0kk3rz | building as debug? | 12:47 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i get that error when building as release, might have to sort that out at some stage | 12:48 |
| r0kk3rz | but should build as debug | 12:48 |
| Sail0r | aah | 12:52 |
| Sail0r | I tried it as release | 12:52 |
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| Sail0r | it's working really good :) | 12:58 |
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| Sail0r | can see the playing song on my pebble | 12:58 |
| Sail0r | forward backward from pebble | 12:59 |
| Sail0r | and pause | 12:59 |
| Sail0r | is there planned to have the currently playing song on the cover or the album art? | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | niiice, this is what i was hoping | 13:00 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure what to do with the cover page yet | 13:01 |
| Sail0r | :) | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | its small, to its hard to fit long track names | 13:01 |
| r0kk3rz | the implementation in the stock player is useless, you get like half a word | 13:01 |
| Sail0r | yeah | 13:02 |
| r0kk3rz | unless i code something to scroll the track name, because there's no current way to do that | 13:02 |
| Sail0r | do you know if it' | 13:02 |
| tadzik | hmm, I usually see just enough to know what song it means | 13:02 |
| Sail0r | s possible to control the loudness via the player? | 13:02 |
| tadzik | doesn't bother me too much | 13:02 |
| r0kk3rz | need to look into controlling the volume | 13:03 |
| r0kk3rz | a lot of the dbus methods are empty | 13:03 |
| r0kk3rz | just there because the standard requires it, and so nothing pops | 13:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if basic player controls work, that means ive done something right | 13:06 |
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| Sail0r | https://cloud.penguinfriends.org/owncloud/public.php?service=files&t=94179e4943593e8c65b7d19a4ddd33ce | 13:07 |
| Sail0r | and even if I switch the songs very fast everything keeps updating and works :) | 13:08 |
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| r0kk3rz | even better | 13:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | theres a couple of hacks in there i need to fix, but good to know that they arent impacting performance in any noticable way | 13:11 |
| r0kk3rz | tracker queries seem to be fast on the jolla anyway | 13:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | thanks for being a pioneer Sail0r :) | 13:14 |
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| Sail0r | no problem. :) I really like being pioneer if it adds functionality ;) | 13:19 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah well it does help if people let me know the kinds of things they want | 13:22 |
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| Sail0r | it's so cool to have that function I am really happy at the moment *g* | 13:25 |
| Sail0r | as jolla does not have next song via holding down/up volume. it really is great to have control over songs via pebble :) | 13:27 |
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| Sail0r | and I can get rid of Quasarmx which looks ugly on jolla | 13:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | i looked at adding that, the volume button thing | 13:28 |
| Sail0r | nice :) | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but since its handled by the system, im not sure its even exposed to apps at all | 13:28 |
| r0kk3rz | the qt.key bindings didnt do anything anyway | 13:29 |
| Sail0r | hm no dbus event when pressing the keys :-/ | 13:29 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, not sure its possible | 13:30 |
| r0kk3rz | probably better off getting earphones with media buttons anyway | 13:30 |
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| ruskie | http://linuxgizmos.com/digia-spins-off-qt-as-subsidiary/ <-- I assume ppl know this | 16:05 |
| tbr | yeah, that was a while ago | 16:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | i made an app icon, and its not even completely terrible | 16:58 |
| borcean | r0kk3rz: Nice! Care to share? :) | 16:58 |
| stephg | \o/ hot water again! | 16:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | the icon is on the description, not the RPM yet https://openrepos.net/content/r0kk3rz/sirensong-music-player | 16:59 |
| stephg | downloading now... | 17:00 |
| borcean | Ooh :) I like it, very clean design | 17:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah, i'll have to upload the new RPM which has a couple of new features as well | 17:00 |
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| stephg | cool | 17:01 |
| stephg | r0kk3rz: is your source open (will it be?) | 17:02 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah its all on github | 17:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | link is there in the openrepos description | 17:03 |
| stephg | oh so it is, sorry only just gone to the warehouse page now | 17:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | but yeah, not too bad for a non graphic designer | 17:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | openrepos RPM updated | 17:16 |
| Sail0r | r0kk3rz: i can't stop listen to music because of pebble support ;) | 17:17 |
| r0kk3rz | :) | 17:17 |
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| Sail0r | I already got two other pebble users to use your music player :) | 17:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | awesome | 17:18 |
| Sail0r | I really like the idea of the ui with the people app in mind | 17:20 |
| Sail0r | I can get to the songs I like really fast | 17:20 |
| r0kk3rz | that was one of the main reasons for writing my own music player | 17:21 |
| Sail0r | :) | 17:21 |
| r0kk3rz | the Jolla implementation is impossible | 17:21 |
| r0kk3rz | pick a song from an artist that starts with M with a medium size collection, be prepared to spend 5min looking for it | 17:21 |
| Sail0r | I have to test what happens when connecting Jolla to my car and using your player ;). The Jolla player itself does not show any songs. But I really don't know how cars do display the songs | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | that and I wanted random queuing, rather than shuffle all | 17:22 |
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| Sail0r | thanking to your player I now have a "find my jolla" function via pebble *g* just start playing music and somewhere jolla plays ;) | 17:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | hahaha | 17:26 |
| kimmoli | use white-noise track, it is really easy to locate | 17:26 |
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| Sail0r | lol | 17:26 |
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| kimmoli | äh, coreutils doesn't provide runuser (?) | 17:47 |
| kimmoli | aa, nevermind | 17:49 |
| kimmoli | su | 17:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | password: | 17:49 |
| kimmoli | kensentme | 17:50 |
| r0kk3rz | password incorrect, please try again | 17:50 |
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| kimmoli | could try root or uClinux or admin or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6iW-8xPw3k | 17:58 |
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| stephg | 12345? | 18:01 |
| stephg | (same combination as my luggage) | 18:01 |
| stephg | doh | 18:01 |
| stephg | anyways | 18:01 |
| M4rtinK | it is "swordfish", right ? | 18:01 |
| raa700 | stephg: who told you my PIN code? | 18:02 |
| stephg | I blame kimmoli | 18:02 |
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| M4rtinK | password sniffing TOH :D | 18:16 |
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| kimmoli | sniftoh http://www.seeedstudio.com/depot/Grove-Gas-SensorMQ2-p-937.html | 18:17 |
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| Armadillo | any guess what's the better method for translations use a default language string in the translation function like this: qsTr("my new application") or to use identifier-keywords like qsTr("@appdescription@")? | 18:38 |
| Armadillo | I saw both in some applications and I'm using the first one currently | 18:38 |
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| Armadillo | the second one will get into trouble if you try injecting variables into it maybe and on the QT documentation there is also used the default language | 18:39 |
| Armadillo | but which method is the better one in practice? | 18:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | the identifier keywords allow you to set what it translates to | 19:27 |
| r0kk3rz | where as just putting in the string only allows it to be automatic | 19:27 |
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| Acce | allows to set what it translates to = you can use the .args given with %n from qtlinquist? | 20:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | not sure exactly | 20:23 |
| r0kk3rz | but probably something like that | 20:23 |
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