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| Naranek | good morning! update? yes? | 05:38 |
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| tbr | Naranek: read tjc yet? no! | 05:38 |
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| Naranek | damn. I never read tjc before I've had coffee | 05:40 |
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| inte | ahoi | 06:58 |
| inte | i cant figure out where to divert calls on jolla? | 06:58 |
| inte | do i have to use keycodes or is there a settings menu hidden anywhere! | 06:59 |
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| tbr | inte: I think there was something, have you tried settings / apps / dialer? | 07:07 |
| jusa_ | inte: settings app -> apps -> phone | 07:07 |
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| inte | thanks!!! | 07:08 |
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| inte | did expect to find them in apps:) | 07:08 |
| * jusa_ high-fives back | 07:08 | |
| tbr | inte: the app settings screen isn't used by many applications, as it's only open to platform apps at the moment | 07:09 |
| tbr | so most people either don't find it or forget about it | 07:09 |
| inte | yeah | 07:09 |
| inte | exactly | 07:09 |
| * tbr had similar problems on harmattan | 07:09 | |
| inte | but on the N9 the phone functions where not treated as "apps" | 07:10 |
| inte | afaik | 07:10 |
| inte | anyways | 07:10 |
| inte | hope i'll remember the next time:) | 07:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | good morning guys | 07:27 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | there is a way to intercept wifi browser prompt ? | 07:42 |
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| cameris | How could I mimic Launchers scrollUp/Down behaviour (when reorder icons) ? The best I could think of was creating DropAreas at top and bottom of my page and call positionAtIndex of the view. but my dragged items always looses focus even when preventStealing is set to true. http://pastebin.com/JqFTKcW1 | 07:49 |
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| Nc_ | Anyone here have any experience with OpenRepos.net for distributing a Jolla app to a limited audience? | 08:37 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Nc_, better give rpm trough link | 08:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | was a good thing for harbour | 08:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Nc_, push this to #jollamobile | 08:43 |
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| Nc_ | 'k | 08:44 |
| * Nc_ crawls back into his pondering-cave to ponder further | 08:45 | |
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| cameris | anybody able to help? I'm really stuck on this. | 08:58 |
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| r0kk3rz | what was the question cameris? | 08:59 |
| cameris | 09:49 < cameris> How could I mimic Launchers scrollUp/Down behaviour (when reorder icons) ? The best I could think of was creating DropAreas at top and bottom of my page and call positionAtIndex of the view. but my dragged items always looses focus even when preventStealing is set to true. http://pastebin.com/JqFTKcW1 | 09:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | mmm tricky one | 09:01 |
| r0kk3rz | you can manually scroll the view | 09:06 |
| r0kk3rz | the people app menu does it | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/r0kk3rz/sailfish-alphabet-sort | 09:07 |
| r0kk3rz | so your mousearea could trigger that, rather than relying on index position | 09:07 |
| cameris | sry, but I'm not following. | 09:09 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/r0kk3rz/sailfish-alphabet-sort/blob/master/qml/pages/AlphaMenu.qml#L21 | 09:11 |
| r0kk3rz | that function does a few checks, then decides how much to scroll the view | 09:11 |
| cameris | oh, by manually you mean set contentY | 09:11 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 09:11 |
| cameris | tried that, same result | 09:12 |
| r0kk3rz | ah | 09:12 |
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| cameris | have you tried the paste above? The problem is: I enter the scrollUp/Down DropAreas with a dragged Item the view scrolls up/down but somehow the dragged item does not follow. The focus stays with the item I guess, since the onCanceled is never called, but I'm also unable to move the dragged Item. Don't know what I'm missing, wasted most of the weekend figuring this out. | 09:17 |
| cameris | s/figuring/trying to figure/ | 09:18 |
| cjbayliss | I added this commit https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commit/1c99ee31007f88ceccd7827674a69854517fba0a to /usr/share/jolla-settings/pages/browser/browser.qml and now I can change the home page in settings > apps > browser | 09:21 |
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| cjbayliss | here is what I did to change the homepage https://together.jolla.com/question/18188/browser-home-page/#post-id-56100 | 09:51 |
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| coderus | about last meeting topic: iconless daemons should have desktop file, but with NoDisplay=true after allowing settings. Before that it should have desktop file opening own settings helper | 10:43 |
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| cjbayliss | situ: do you know if homepage support in the browser is going to be included in the next releae? | 11:11 |
| cjbayliss | *release | 11:11 |
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| situ | cjbayliss: I think so. | 11:14 |
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| situ | veskuh: ^ Can you confirm this ? | 11:15 |
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| veskuh | situ, cjbayliss it missed the integration deadline for the next update, so should be one after that. | 11:16 |
| stephg | cjbayliss: there's a browser dailies build in openrepos btw | 11:18 |
| r0kk3rz | stephg: is that actually updated daily? | 11:20 |
| stephg | not sure, haven't looked closely at it | 11:20 |
| stephg | but wasn't sure if you were aware | 11:21 |
| r0kk3rz | afaik that hasnt been updated in a while | 11:21 |
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| cjbayliss | situ, veskuh: ok, thank you. | 11:37 |
| cjbayliss | stephg: ok, will look at that. | 11:37 |
| cjbayliss | thanks | 11:38 |
| Naranek | Is it possible to tell Sailfish, that if user makes the back gesture, it shouldn't close the page, but go back and leave it attached instead? | 11:39 |
| Naranek | so that if the user makes the forward gesture, he/she'll get back to the original page | 11:40 |
| Naranek | for some apps it makes sense to move forward and backward in the stack without recreating the pages every time | 11:41 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah | 11:44 |
| r0kk3rz | i do that in sirensong, you use the push attached method | 11:45 |
| r0kk3rz | then tell the page to navigate forward | 11:45 |
| r0kk3rz | which keeps the page there until you pop it at some point | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | https://github.com/r0kk3rz/SirenSong-Media-Player/blob/master/qml/pages/Main.qml#L19 | 11:47 |
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| Naranek | hey cool! Thanks a lot! | 11:59 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 12:29 |
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| Parru | Hello all! | 15:44 |
| Parru | I've difficulties staring sailfish emulator. | 15:44 |
| tbr | can you describe those? | 15:45 |
| Parru | When I press "Start Emulator" button, it goes grey. | 15:45 |
| Parru | Nothing happens. It never starts. | 15:45 |
| tbr | what if you open virtualbox and start it from there? | 15:46 |
| Parru | I've got Linux Mint. | 15:46 |
| Parru | Hmm. Wait a minute. | 15:46 |
| Parru | Last time it started there. | 15:46 |
| Parru | VBoxHeadless --startvm "SailfishOS Emulator" Oracle VM VirtualBox Headless Interface 4.3.10_Ubuntu (C) 2008-2014 Oracle Corporation All rights reserved. 15/09/2014 18:46:49 Listening for VNC connections on TCP port 3389 15/09/2014 18:46:49 Listening for VNC connections on TCP6 port 5900 VRDE server is listening on port 3389. | 15:47 |
| Parru | Same thing with the port 2223 | 15:47 |
| tbr | so starting the emulator VM from the VBox GUI gives you a command line message? | 15:47 |
| Parru | That was taken from command line. | 15:48 |
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| Parru | I cannot find any command in QT Creator which is used | 15:48 |
| tbr | > what if you open virtualbox and start it from there? | 15:49 |
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| Parru | I don't have VBoxQui | 15:50 |
| Parru | I don't have VBoxGui | 15:50 |
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| Parru | VBoxBalloonCtrl VBoxControl VBoxManage VBoxService VBoxClient VBoxHeadless VBoxSDL | 15:50 |
| tbr | maybe your vbox installation is somehow broken then? | 15:51 |
| tbr | it should come with a UI | 15:51 |
| Raim | the executable could be named virtualbox or VirtualBox | 15:51 |
| Parru | Do I need GUI? | 15:51 |
| tbr | here the executable is VBox | 15:51 |
| Parru | Virtual SDK starts ok. | 15:52 |
| tbr | ah sorry virtualbox, right | 15:52 |
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| Parru | I did not have virtualbox-qt installed. After installation it is starting | 15:57 |
| Parru | Now I have to go and find some suppilovahvero. | 15:58 |
| Parru | Thanks for the help. | 15:58 |
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| Yrr | hi | 16:14 |
| SK_work | hi Yrr | 16:14 |
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| Yrr | thx for replying | 16:16 |
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| tbr | lol | 16:21 |
| javispedro | hi-bye | 16:23 |
| javispedro | tbr: so, does it really take 15minutes for you to get a notification? | 16:24 |
| tbr | javispedro: non-scientific observation, my battery was pretty much gone after about a day | 16:24 |
| tbr | not that long, but sometimes it took it more than a minute for sure | 16:24 |
| tbr | I didn't use a stop watch | 16:25 |
| tbr | it might as well have been 2-3 | 16:25 |
| tbr | which felt familiar: sleep(1s) can last up to 5min | 16:25 |
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| javispedro | hm, battery usage here is as usual | 16:25 |
| tbr | ok, then it was just the sudden onset of vibration all the time :) | 16:26 |
| javispedro | oh | 16:26 |
| javispedro | you mean _watch_ battery? | 16:26 |
| tbr | yes, sorry | 16:26 |
| tbr | should have been more specific | 16:26 |
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| tbr | jolla is at 79%, which is perfectly fine after a day of usage and a lot of vibration and a couple of calls | 16:27 |
| javispedro | watch battery seems normal-ish here, 81% right now and I didn't charge it after yesterday's experiments | 16:27 |
| * javispedro watches it drop to 80% | 16:28 | |
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| tbr | ok, I don't remember the exact time I charged it, it was either saturday or sunday. which would make a difference | 16:28 |
| javispedro | and now it's went back to 81% :) | 16:28 |
| javispedro | either way I suspect it's not cool for the watch if notifications are taking that long time to send | 16:28 |
| tbr | that sucks if it happens around 20%, as then you get the low battery alarm repeatedly | 16:28 |
| javispedro | because I'm sending the full 96x96 bitmap, that's around 9kbits traffic | 16:28 |
| javispedro | last I've heard BLE bandwidth should be ~10kbps | 16:29 |
| javispedro | so that's two seconds most for a notification | 16:29 |
| javispedro | yet I experience 1-2 minutes of delay on mine (without suspend) | 16:30 |
| javispedro | I need to read on the physical details of BLE.. | 16:30 |
| javispedro | there's some tunables ('connInterval') I haven't played with on the Jolla | 16:30 |
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| javispedro | re iphb usage, this should be in libgato; it doesn't sleep() but I suspect it should take a wakelock whenever there's data to be sent in the output buffer | 16:36 |
| javispedro | man I hate wakelocks. | 16:37 |
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| tbr | ok | 16:41 |
| tbr | for wakelocks there is something brewing IIRC | 16:41 |
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| tbr | javispedro: have you tried running gato/salmeta on a laptop or desktop? | 16:42 |
| javispedro | I debug on my desktop, where this doesn't happen :( | 16:43 |
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| tbr | :/ | 16:43 |
| javispedro | I could also try connecting the sailfishi486 simulator to a USB bluetooth...... | 16:43 |
| javispedro | ... but I have this feeling it's also going to work OK :) | 16:43 |
| tbr | yeah | 16:44 |
| javispedro | either way I suspect its something related to connInterval and other LE parameters, that's an area I didn't research much | 16:44 |
| javispedro | and Jolla's BT stack has proven to have not-very-sensible defaults | 16:45 |
| javispedro | (e.g. Wi-Fi BT coex :) ) | 16:45 |
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| javispedro | (kernel-side stack -- drivers, I mean) | 16:45 |
| tbr | yeah | 16:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | probably dont stress too much until the next update hits | 16:58 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | joo | 17:51 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | nazanin : can I get a question through to the tester which took care of Quickbar this time? | 17:51 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | nazanin : nevermind, found the bug | 18:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so, back to more intresting stuff : update? :D | 18:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | and what do we say to Sailfish Update? Not today | 18:20 |
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| javispedro | w00t, not at home atm, but what do you want to try? | 18:25 |
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| w00t | javispedro: I need a libcommhistory build custom done, but I might be able to get one.. | 18:29 |
| w00t | javispedro: can you rpm -q libcommhistory-qt5 for me at least? | 18:29 |
| javispedro | (on jolla only) libcommhistory-qt5-1.7.13-1.16.7.armv7hl (SailfishOS 1.0.8.19) | 18:30 |
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| w00t | useful thanks | 18:34 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | r0kk3rz : :D | 18:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 18:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | console.log connects to qdebug, right? | 18:39 |
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| coderus | SK_work: hi | 18:40 |
| coderus | what is working in friends facebook api nowadays? | 18:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | Sail0r: ping | 18:52 |
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| Sail0r | pong | 18:53 |
| r0kk3rz | care to do some testing for me? | 18:53 |
| r0kk3rz | mpris should work with the latest code on git | 18:54 |
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| Sail0r | I would like to test the new code but for some reason my build env is f***ed and I did not have time to fix it this evening will try it tomorrow ;) | 18:54 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah no rush | 19:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | i should really try and find something that i can test it with | 19:01 |
| r0kk3rz | would be cool to use it to control over ssh | 19:01 |
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| Sail0r | :) | 19:03 |
| Sail0r | time for pebble :P | 19:03 |
| r0kk3rz | nah im a dinosaur that likes watches with hands and gears and things | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | hehe | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | in 10 years pebble is the dinosaur ^^ | 19:05 |
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| ryukafalz | I just got myself a pebble actually | 19:06 |
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| ryukafalz | can't use it with sfos yet though because no bluetooth on n4 :( | 19:06 |
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| Sail0r | xx | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | :x | 19:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | get a jolla | 19:10 |
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| ryukafalz | no US 3G bands | 19:11 |
| ryukafalz | else I would very much be considering it | 19:11 |
| phlixi | i have the impressiion, that pebble has great (bad) impact on battery on my jolla | 19:12 |
| phlixi | (might be bluetooth in general, i have no idea, i use bluetooth only for pebble) | 19:12 |
| phlixi | still much better than on n9 thogh ;-) | 19:13 |
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| ryukafalz | phlixi: I don't believe SFOS has support for BTLE, hopefully that will happen and battery life should be much better | 19:18 |
| * ryukafalz thinks we need to switch to Bluez 5 though | 19:20 | |
| phlixi | usually i get home at the evening with ~60-75% battery, with pebble its mor 40-55ish. so no big deal... | 19:20 |
| phlixi | ...and in the end, i guess i do not like the pebbel anyway... but i already have it, and in the moment i got it, the began to ship to germany, so selling it on ebay no longer is a (that) good deal^^ | 19:21 |
| ryukafalz | IMO it's better than any other smartwatch out there at the momnent | 19:21 |
| ryukafalz | *moment | 19:21 |
| Sail0r | phlixi: which pebble software do you use? | 19:21 |
| Sail0r | pebbled? | 19:21 |
| Sail0r | and latest version? | 19:21 |
| ryukafalz | I have a Pebble and a Metawatch currently | 19:21 |
| phlixi | at first rockwatch (n9), which nearly bricked it (no one blaming here, i was the idiot doing firmware "upgrade" to the steel^^), the on jolla tried different things; not sure what is called, and where I got it, probably from open repos, its just a button "connect pebbel" and once connected it is "disconnect pebbel" and works as it should | 19:23 |
| phlixi | actually it only says "disconneted" and "connected" (without "pebble") | 19:24 |
| tbr | metawatch support is shaping up nicely <3 | 19:24 |
| ryukafalz | tbr: I hope so :) | 19:24 |
| ryukafalz | might switch between metawatch and pebble I guess haha | 19:25 |
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| ryukafalz | once bluetooth is a thing | 19:25 |
| tbr | ryukafalz: notifications sorta work already, simple watch faces too | 19:25 |
| Sail0r | I use pebbled and battery drain is not noticeable | 19:25 |
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| ryukafalz | tbr: well then I think sailfish currently has the only functional open source metawatch app | 19:27 |
| Sail0r | this one https://openrepos.net/content/smoku/pebble | 19:27 |
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| BasilSemuonov | phlixi, try pebble suggested by Sail0r, i also use it, and it takes about max 3-5% of battery for constantly running bluetooth. | 19:30 |
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| phlixi | just found out i can close the app window and it stays connected, great, i will use that for a day or two and see ;-) | 19:36 |
| phlixi | thanks for the tip | 19:36 |
| Sail0r | that's the cool thing it's a real daemon :) | 19:36 |
| Sail0r | the app is only the control window | 19:36 |
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| Jabbounet | hi all | 20:50 |
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| stephg | ohai! | 21:00 |
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| javispedro | w00t: still need a sdk update8 box? | 21:04 |
| w00t | javispedro: no, thanks anyway - got a way to get a build thankfully :) | 21:04 |
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| javispedro | okie | 21:05 |
| javispedro | by the wayyy | 21:05 |
| javispedro | hm | 21:06 |
| * w00t runs away before this gets ugly ;p | 21:06 | |
| w00t | (what's up) | 21:06 |
| javispedro | feel free to escape, I seem to remember you're no longer a sailer... | 21:06 |
| javispedro | *sailor | 21:06 |
| w00t | you can ask anyway, if I know the answer I'll try help | 21:06 |
| javispedro | it's that stuff re qtbluetooth packaging | 21:06 |
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| javispedro | I spent some time trying to build it and couldn't :P | 21:07 |
| w00t | ah.. | 21:07 |
| javispedro | but, it's a two-line patch, what could go wrong if I try to push it even without trying? :) | 21:07 |
| w00t | you may have some problems with that as you'd need a 5.2 environment | 21:07 |
| w00t | just push it, I can test it for you | 21:07 |
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| javispedro | ok, done | 21:22 |
| javispedro | no hurries as usual :) | 21:22 |
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| ryukafalz | javispedro: yay watches! :D | 22:52 |
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| ryukafalz | javispedro: I'm curious, are you reading through metawatch firmware changelogs to deal with the more recent protocol changes? Since they don't seem to be documented anywhere else... | 22:53 |
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| javispedro | no, I'm reading the firmware itself mostly | 22:53 |
| marxistvegan | hey folks for those that are working on android devices to install on is the Galaxy Nexus Maguro a good one or is the Nexus 4 better? | 22:55 |
| javispedro | marxistvegan: probably you want #sailfishos-porters | 22:56 |
| marxistvegan | javispedro: oh i did not know that was another room :) | 22:56 |
| javispedro | np, it's also mostly empty during nighttime | 22:57 |
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| marxistvegan | javispedro: :( | 22:57 |
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| javispedro | marxistvegan: have you looked at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris ? | 22:58 |
| marxistvegan | javispedro: i have which is what is causing me to ask, I have never had an android (/me still has the n9) so I am not sure if the nexus maguro is good or the nexus 4 | 22:59 |
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| javispedro | hm | 23:01 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: Oh, dang, that's even more impressive | 23:02 |
| javispedro | I hate it that the sailfish qtcreator plugin still doesn't handle multiple projects opened at the same time properly | 23:02 |
| javispedro | it will sometimes build one then attempt to deploy the other | 23:02 |
| javispedro | same as if you switch from debug to release in the middle of a build, except I'm not doing that | 23:03 |
| * javispedro smells that will be hard to fix | 23:03 | |
| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: I have a Nexus 4 running Sailfish, it's still missing some features... dang now this is making me jealous, Maguro has working bluetooth :< | 23:03 |
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| ryukafalz | there are lots more devices there than the last time I checked | 23:04 |
| ryukafalz | Oi, why does N5 have working bluetooth while N4 doesn't... | 23:04 |
| * ryukafalz pokes around things | 23:05 | |
| * javispedro ponders what's so hard about bluetooth | 23:05 | |
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| ryukafalz | javispedro: I was asking about this a while back, I think it has to do with bluez vs. bluedroid support for the chipset in this phone | 23:05 |
| javispedro | meh, and people still believe in google's "do no evil" motto.. | 23:06 |
| javispedro | eitherway I suspect it's still mostly some propietary hci initialization sequence | 23:06 |
| ryukafalz | well to be fair, bluez 4 wasn't all that great from what I've gathered | 23:06 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: i see | 23:06 |
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| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: N4 is the only one with an "official" port though | 23:07 |
| marxistvegan | I happened to see the nokia X today I had some how missed that release but was not sure if sailfish was ported to it | 23:07 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: ahhh | 23:07 |
| javispedro | initial versions of bluedroid were not much better either | 23:07 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: that makes it more interesting then | 23:07 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: well, I'd imagine you understand a lot more about bluetooth than I do :P | 23:07 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: then I think I will shop for a used unlocked nexus 4 | 23:08 |
| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: That's what I did, yeah, though I will say that I'm not sure how actively anyone's working on the N4 | 23:08 |
| ryukafalz | there hasn't been an image released for the latest Sailfish version, though you can upgrade from the terminal | 23:09 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: well I am in the states so the actual jolla phone is not really an option | 23:09 |
| * javispedro continues trying to beat bluez4 as in the jolla onto submission | 23:09 | |
| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: likewise | 23:09 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: Thoughts on the likelihood of Sailfish switching to bluez5? | 23:10 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: I am just bummed that the n9 was never made to have an official release | 23:10 |
| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: From what I understand that has more to do with the lack of open/usable drivers for the N9 than anything else | 23:11 |
| ryukafalz | and the fact that it only works with ancient kernel versions | 23:11 |
| ryukafalz | blame nokia :P | 23:11 |
| javispedro | ryukafalz: my crystal ball says "Concentrate and ask again" | 23:11 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: hah | 23:11 |
| javispedro | ;P | 23:11 |
| javispedro | it's also sadly easier these days to run Sailfish on Android hardware than it is to run it on ... X11 hardware. | 23:12 |
| * javispedro has done some initial explorations on his Gear2 | 23:12 | |
| javispedro | (which is a X11 platform btw) | 23:12 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: Wait, really? | 23:12 |
| ryukafalz | oh, because it runs Tizen... right | 23:13 |
| javispedro | yep | 23:13 |
| ryukafalz | Wait, Tizen's still using X11? | 23:13 |
| * ryukafalz is actually kinda disappointed in that | 23:13 | |
| * javispedro coughs | 23:13 | |
| javispedro | I do not really dislike X11 in any way | 23:14 |
| * javispedro just sees it as yet another graphic driver ABI driver between *unixes | 23:14 | |
| ryukafalz | If you ever get it running well on a smartwatch, let me know - I'd love to play around with Linux-based smartwatches | 23:14 |
| javispedro | er.. ABI barrier | 23:14 |
| javispedro | ryukafalz: Sts got it running on the gear1, which is android | 23:14 |
| ryukafalz | hmm | 23:15 |
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| ryukafalz | I think I need to start playing around with Lipstick then in preparation :P | 23:15 |
| ryukafalz | would be amazing to have a Nemo smartwatch interface | 23:15 |
| javispedro | agreed | 23:16 |
| ryukafalz | I have a Pebble and a Metawatch, but both are somewhat lacking in both functionality and openness | 23:16 |
| javispedro | Metawatch lacking in openness? :) | 23:16 |
| ryukafalz | well, the metawatch has open firmware which is nice | 23:16 |
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| ryukafalz | that said, have you seen the license for the bluetooth stack? | 23:16 |
| javispedro | yep | 23:16 |
| ryukafalz | I was sorely disappointed when I read that | 23:17 |
| javispedro | there's fully open replacements though | 23:17 |
| ryukafalz | oh, reall | 23:17 |
| ryukafalz | *y? | 23:17 |
| javispedro | e.g. https://github.com/electric-monk/IndependentlySmartWatch | 23:17 |
| ryukafalz | there's also the fact that, in typical open source fashion, it has little to no recent documentation :P | 23:17 |
| ryukafalz | oooh, nice | 23:18 |
| ryukafalz | I need to get myself a JTAG clip methinks | 23:18 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: It was kinda disappointing though, I asked Metawatch support if there were up to date docs, and their response was basically "nope, and just leave it to the developers to update their stuff" | 23:20 |
| javispedro | they've abandoned this | 23:20 |
| javispedro | very friendly during early days though | 23:20 |
| javispedro | (I got a free MW when my original one got "outdated") | 23:20 |
| ryukafalz | yeah, it sounds like they were once pretty supportive of developers | 23:21 |
| ryukafalz | but not so much anymore | 23:21 |
| javispedro | their new one is... expensive... with some... uh, peculiar design choices | 23:21 |
| ryukafalz | heh | 23:21 |
| ryukafalz | it's the same firmware though, right? | 23:21 |
| javispedro | I don't know, and sadly the answer is "probably not". | 23:22 |
| javispedro | has slightly larger res screen | 23:22 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: yeah I have | 23:22 |
| marxistvegan | just had hoped that some of those developers got their hands on the drivers before nokia or microsoft rather fired them | 23:22 |
| ryukafalz | javispedro: yeah, my bet is they keep the firmware closed for the new one | 23:22 |
| ryukafalz | which in my eyes eliminates the only reason I ever bought one over the Pebble | 23:23 |
| ryukafalz | without that aspect it's just a Pebble that doesn't really do anything | 23:23 |
| ryukafalz | marxistvegan: Heh, even if they did that would be very illegal :P | 23:25 |
| marxistvegan | ryukafalz: unfortunately I know with the licenses that were used | 23:25 |
| ryukafalz | I was thinking it would be awesome if someone ever ported Sailfish to a Nokia X | 23:26 |
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| ryukafalz | the last Nokia hardware that could run it, with the spiritual successor of MeeGo | 23:27 |
| ryukafalz | Harmattan, rather - I think Mer is a literal successor to MeeGo | 23:27 |
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