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| coderus | Music to everyone: http://music.yandex.ru/#!/track/10647156/album/1153286 | 02:19 |
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| n9mx | coderus: "Due to licensing constraints we do not provide access to listeners located outside Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Kazakhstan. We are deeply sorry. " :( | 03:17 |
| coderus | what about following link: What about following: http://cs5060.vk.me/u37878404/audios/9634ca3e04fc.mp3?extra=KvMZcqfyeXyvPjft2eTpssCq-sj9hNimhMU5vYiToHfEVfT0KMLcx_mph0s1DH2fQ45PH0-B1FOvDDqJDJHbHtwYhe33V8w | 03:40 |
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| faenil | morning o/ | 06:29 |
| faenil | chriadam, received it? | 06:30 |
| chriadam | faenil: gmorning - I did, I haven't had a chance to look at it yet, unfortunately | 06:31 |
| faenil | oh :/ ok | 06:31 |
| faenil | chriadam, how do I trigger sync, since settings sync button doesn't work? | 06:34 |
| chriadam | devel-su -p ls /home/nemo/.cache/msyncd/sync/ | 06:34 |
| chriadam | you should see something like "google.Contacts-5.xml" where 5 is the account id. | 06:34 |
| chriadam | then you can trigger via: dbus-send --session --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=com.meego.msyncd /synchronizer com.meego.msyncd.startSync string:'google.Contacts-5' | 06:34 |
| faenil | and that should *really* do something, right? | 06:35 |
| chriadam | if the sync profile is enabled, and if your account settings are ok, yes. | 06:35 |
| chriadam | if you want to find out more, you can `systemctl --user stop msyncd` then wait a couple seconds, then `SOCIALD_LOGGING_LEVEL=3 devel-su -p msyncd` before doing that. | 06:36 |
| faenil | ok | 06:36 |
| Nicd- | coderus: I've started to have a lot of busyloops in mitakuuluu-server (200% CPU) | 06:38 |
| Nicd- | I now have logging on and will wait until it happens next time | 06:38 |
| Nicd- | but it has happened many times per day | 06:38 |
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| faenil | chriadam, dbus call as -p as well? | 06:38 |
| chriadam | no | 06:38 |
| iekku | morning | 06:38 |
| chriadam | o/ iekku | 06:39 |
| iekku | chriadam, \o | 06:39 |
| faenil | iekku, morning sis :) | 06:39 |
| cobu | jake9xx: ping | 06:39 |
| iekku | faenil, morning cub | 06:39 |
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| faenil | chriadam, is this safe? | 06:58 |
| faenil | GLIB WARNING ** accounts-glib - _ag_value_from_string: error parsing type "b" ``0'': 0-1:can not parse as value of type `b' | 06:58 |
| faenil | and | 06:58 |
| faenil | Failed to SUID root. Secure storage will not be available. | 06:58 |
| chriadam | that should be fixed. one of the email settings templates (possibly either google-gmail.service, or the generic email one) has template settings of type "b" but value 0 instead of false. It is fixed in next update. | 06:59 |
| chriadam | the suid root thing is unrelated / expected. | 06:59 |
| chriadam | ignore that | 06:59 |
| faenil | ok, so the dbus call doesn't trigger the sync | 06:59 |
| faenil | msyncd and contactsd take cpu for a while | 06:59 |
| faenil | but nothing changes in my contacts | 06:59 |
| chriadam | does the dbus-send return true or false? | 07:00 |
| faenil | true | 07:00 |
| chriadam | that suggests that the profile at least is found by msyncd. did msyncd console (with SOCIALD_LOGGING_LEVEL=3) have any output? | 07:00 |
| chriadam | should have a ton | 07:00 |
| faenil | yes, about to try that now | 07:00 |
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| faenil | chriadam, http://pastebin.com/mjBJ1Dmt | 07:04 |
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| chriadam | successful sync, no remote changes and no local changes. expected? | 07:05 |
| chriadam | it's a delta sync, so that's only the changes since the most recent successful sync before that one. | 07:06 |
| faenil | well, with the difference that contacts on google web ui are okay, contacts on my phone are *a mess* | 07:06 |
| chriadam | right. let me check the db one sec | 07:07 |
| faenil | :) | 07:08 |
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| chriadam | faenil: ok, found one problem. | 07:14 |
| chriadam | one moment, let me try to figure out something | 07:14 |
| faenil | I just hope this will result into bugs being fixed :) | 07:14 |
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| chriadam | hopefully, if I can figure out _why_. | 07:15 |
| chriadam | what's happened is that you have a bunch of ocntacts in that database which have the OLD (ie, one-way google sync adaptor from < u7) format | 07:16 |
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| chriadam | they have entries in the tpmetadata table, with the account id (7), and their guid in the guids table DON'T start with 7: as they should | 07:16 |
| chriadam | their sync target is still google | 07:16 |
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| chriadam | but they're "orphaned" from the current sync adapter's knowledge of them | 07:17 |
| faenil | I see | 07:17 |
| chriadam | I can write code to fix this (read all google synctarget contacts, delete any which don't have the correct Guid format) -- but this is quite risky if it might result in a deletion being pushed server side. I need to think about this one more. | 07:17 |
| faenil | yeah... | 07:17 |
| chriadam | now I'm trying to figure out how this could have failed... maybe a db lock when we tried to do the original migration...? hrm. | 07:18 |
| faenil | it would be interesting to know how many people have this issue but haven't realized it yet | 07:20 |
| chriadam | ugh | 07:20 |
| faenil | it's not so visible afterall, if you only use the same contacts you won't notice it | 07:21 |
| faenil | chriadam, remember the first time I resynced yesterday, it reupsynced a lot of clones | 07:23 |
| faenil | (and it doesn't, now) | 07:23 |
| coderus | Nicd-: who cares | 07:23 |
| faenil | just, fyi | 07:23 |
| Nicd- | coderus: ? | 07:24 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: currently mitakuuluu-server is using 100% CPU and all my battery. the logs have no info about it | 07:33 |
| stephg | Nicd-: does strace say anything interesting? | 07:36 |
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| Nicd- | pretty much just 4 clock_gettimes every second | 07:38 |
| Nicd- | and a poll | 07:38 |
| Nicd- | but not much traffic otherwise | 07:39 |
| chriadam | faenil: ok, I've created a bug internally, with all of the information I think I need to resolve this one. thanks very much for supplying the database. | 07:40 |
| faenil | chriadam, ok, cool! | 07:40 |
| faenil | I hope my db won't end up on weird sharing services :P | 07:41 |
| chriadam | the fix won't make it into the next update, though -- as I said, we need to think carefully (and test carefully) to ensure that my fix doesn't cause deletions to be erroneously up, clobbering user data | 07:41 |
| faenil | yeah... | 07:41 |
| faenil | so, should I remove the account? | 07:41 |
| chriadam | erm. sadly... that probably won't help. | 07:42 |
| faenil | chriadam, because it deletes those with the same guid? :D | 07:43 |
| chriadam | because the sync adapter doesn't know that the orphaned contacts belong to it (and therefore, should be deleted when the account is removed) | 07:43 |
| faenil | hehe | 07:43 |
| faenil | what do you suggest | 07:44 |
| faenil | I don't know if I have any contact which is local only | 07:44 |
| chriadam | well, I can tell you how to remove the spurious contacts -- but I don't know if the aggregates will be regenerated properly | 07:45 |
| chriadam | maybe using contacts-tool it will... hrm. | 07:45 |
| chriadam | basically, the solution is: | 07:45 |
| chriadam | select * from contacts where syncTarget = 'google'; | 07:46 |
| faenil | yes, I got that...but how :D | 07:46 |
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| chriadam | select * from guids where contactId in ^that^ and guid NOT like '7:%'; | 07:46 |
| chriadam | actually you just need the contactid | 07:46 |
| chriadam | then you can delete all of those. so. | 07:46 |
| chriadam | select contactId from guids where contactId in (select * from contacts where synctarget = 'google') and guid not like '7:%'; | 07:47 |
| chriadam | then use contacts-tool to delete all of those results. | 07:47 |
| chriadam | (my sql syntax may have been incorrect there, obviously) | 07:47 |
| faenil | yes but who executes the query...where do I put it | 07:47 |
| faenil | is there a tool for that or should I handle it myself | 07:48 |
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| chriadam | yourself, sadly. devel-su -p sqlite3 /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db "select contactId from guids where contactId in (select * from contacts where synctarget = 'google') and guid not like '7:%';" | 07:48 |
| faenil | ah well that's not myself :) there's sqlite3 :D | 07:49 |
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| faenil | that's what I meant :) | 07:49 |
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| chriadam | oh :-) | 07:49 |
| chriadam | well, there's probably a way to do it with contacts-tool too, but I don't know | 07:50 |
| faenil | Error: only a single result allowed for a SELECT that is part of an expression | 07:50 |
| faenil | okay, got to rewrite it :) | 07:50 |
| chriadam | devel-su -p sqlite3 /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db "select contactId from guids where contactId in (select contactId from contacts where synctarget = 'google') and guid not like '7:%';" | 07:50 |
| chriadam | oops | 07:50 |
| chriadam | that should work | 07:50 |
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| faenil | yeah there are a few :D | 07:52 |
| faenil | like, 100 | 07:52 |
| faenil | or so | 07:52 |
| Nicd- | wow, my phone is really hot now (and losing charge even though it's connected to a laptop)... guess I'll have to live without whatsapp for a while | 07:52 |
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| faenil | Nicd-, yes, USB is 500mA, the phone at full load can take up to 1.1A iirc | 07:53 |
| Nicd- | or try deleting the mitakuuluu db and starting anew | 07:53 |
| faenil | no way USB is going to be enough if it's under load :D | 07:53 |
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| faenil | chriadam, contacts-tool doesn't seem to know anyone with those IDs :/ | 08:02 |
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| chriadam | hrm. maybe contacts-tool only deals with aggregates | 08:02 |
| faenil | yay :) | 08:03 |
| chriadam | oh well. sqlite3 "delete from contacts where id in (those ids);" | 08:03 |
| faenil | yeah | 08:03 |
| chriadam | but... hrm... I wonder if we apply key constraints to relationships table? | 08:03 |
| faenil | ehehe | 08:03 |
| chriadam | if not, that would leave relationships to nonexistent contacts from the aggregates :-/ | 08:04 |
| chriadam | and then... urgh | 08:04 |
| faenil | chriadam, let's change strategy | 08:04 |
| faenil | how do I check if there's something not coming from google or fb | 08:04 |
| faenil | sorry | 08:04 |
| faenil | that's trivial | 08:04 |
| faenil | I meant something "local" | 08:04 |
| faenil | which doesn't necessarily mean the same | 08:05 |
| chriadam | one sec | 08:05 |
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| tortoisedoc | bugger :( | 08:22 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 08:52 |
| faenil | chriadam, you still there :P | 08:53 |
| faenil | ? | 08:53 |
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| lainwir3d | :) | 08:59 |
| Nicd- | just finished FFVII a while ago | 08:59 |
| Nicd- | for the first time :P | 08:59 |
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| chriadam | faenil: yep | 09:00 |
| faenil | chriadam, got a solution for me? :) | 09:00 |
| faenil | you said "one sec" but then disappeared :) | 09:01 |
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| tortoisedoc | Nicd- -> FFVII first time? that's like overoldskool :P | 09:01 |
| chriadam | faenil: oops sorry got sidetracked. | 09:02 |
| faenil | :) | 09:02 |
| chriadam | ok so what you need is a way to get the contacts which are local, but not associated with a facebook, sim, telepathy or (non-spurious) google contact? | 09:02 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc: yep. never finished it back then even though I played it all the way up to the last battles | 09:02 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc: now I finally played it through on an emulator | 09:03 |
| Nicd- | next up: FFVIII ;) | 09:03 |
| faenil | chriadam, yes, basically I want to fix my issue | 09:03 |
| faenil | and the only way seems to be deleting the contacts.db file, right? | 09:03 |
| tortoisedoc | Nicd- : go to FFIX, FFVIII was abit of a disappointment for me | 09:03 |
| faenil | since we don't have a safe way to delete spurious google contacts | 09:03 |
| lainwir3d | Nicd-: I started it again like... hmmm 4 months ago. Still not finished, but I'm just in front of the final dungeon | 09:03 |
| chriadam | faenil: yes, that's probably the simplest. but I guess before you do that, you want to get out of it the data which is local only? | 09:04 |
| faenil | exactly | 09:04 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc: I didn't like FFIX when I tried it, I already have FFVIII on Steam (I played that almost all the way too when I was a kid) | 09:04 |
| lainwir3d | tortoisedoc: I liked FFVIII :) I like nearly all of them though. I'm on FFX HD remaster currently | 09:04 |
| tortoisedoc | lainwir3d : I loved all FF's up to VII | 09:05 |
| tortoisedoc | then my love faded | 09:05 |
| chriadam | faenil: try using vcardexporter. it should only export "local" contact data | 09:05 |
| Nicd- | lainwir3d: I got everything this time, Gold Chocobo, all summons, all master materias, W-Summon, Omnislash etc etc :P so that took a while | 09:05 |
| ruskie | ffxiv here for me atm | 09:05 |
| tortoisedoc | IMHO FF6 is what remains the only, true FF game :P | 09:05 |
| lainwir3d | Nicd-: haha, I never got one FF at 100%. I get tired before having everything. | 09:05 |
| tortoisedoc | (note : FF6 is FF3 in the west world) | 09:05 |
| Nicd- | I never really bothered with other FFs, just FF7 and FF8. I'm playing Chrono Trigger now, though | 09:06 |
| faenil | chriadam, only vcardconverter here | 09:06 |
| lainwir3d | ruskie: I'm on it too, which server ? | 09:06 |
| faenil | ah ok --export | 09:06 |
| tortoisedoc | Nicd- : give FF6(FF3) a chance | 09:06 |
| ruskie | cerberus | 09:06 |
| tortoisedoc | it is worth it, especially if you like the collecting part | 09:06 |
| faenil | chriadam, a lot of [W] QtVersit::QVCard30Writer::encodeVersitProperty:107 - Variant value is a QStringList but the property's value type is neither CompoundType or ListType | 09:06 |
| faenil | once for each contact | 09:06 |
| lainwir3d | tortoisedoc: I loved FF6, I hop they'll make itin 3D for the Nintendo DS like FFIV | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | tortoisedoc: I remember trying it really briefly once. I don't really like collecting, but FF7 I just had to, because of nostalgia. I still skipped Ruby Weapon though, screw that :P | 09:07 |
| chriadam | faenil: oh, sorry that's what I mean. `vcardconverter -e backup.vcf` | 09:07 |
| chriadam | faenil: hrm... curious | 09:07 |
| chriadam | I wonder which property... | 09:07 |
| tortoisedoc | Nicd- : cant call you a real collector withour ruby weapon sorry :P | 09:07 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I didn't have the interest for that | 09:08 |
| Nicd- | so is FF3 on steam FF6 or the real FF3? | 09:08 |
| chriadam | faenil: wait... | 09:09 |
| lainwir3d | probably FF6 | 09:09 |
| faenil | chriadam, oh, it exported an avatar as well? XD | 09:09 |
| chriadam | faenil: that one might be accessing the third-party database | 09:09 |
| chriadam | did you run it with devel-su -p, or without? | 09:09 |
| faenil | without | 09:09 |
| chriadam | if you ran it without, it'll access the non-privileged database, so it will include basically everything (except facebook). which probably isn't what you want, I guess. | 09:10 |
| faenil | ok | 09:10 |
| chriadam | you want to run it with devel-su -p, that way it should pick up only the "actual" local contact data | 09:10 |
| faenil | it only got 91 contacts though...I have 257 on google | 09:10 |
| chriadam | but doubel check | 09:10 |
| chriadam | uh | 09:10 |
| chriadam | hrm. | 09:10 |
| chriadam | oh, that's fine | 09:10 |
| faenil | Wrote 91 contacts | 09:10 |
| chriadam | hrm. | 09:10 |
| chriadam | actually no, I don't understand that. unless it's somehow reading from the privileged db always... no idea. | 09:11 |
| faenil | let's see with -p | 09:11 |
| faenil | chriadam, yes, same result with -p | 09:11 |
| chriadam | ... weird | 09:11 |
| chriadam | I don't understand that | 09:11 |
| faenil | wait | 09:11 |
| faenil | maybe I'm already logged as -p | 09:12 |
| faenil | let's try again | 09:12 |
| faenil | chriadam, yea, it exports 0 contacts as Nemo | 09:12 |
| chriadam | ok | 09:12 |
| chriadam | cool | 09:12 |
| chriadam | should be correct then | 09:12 |
| faenil | so, what are those 91? | 09:13 |
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| faenil | because there's another guy, Andy80, who says he has issues with clones and google contacts not being visible on android side | 09:13 |
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| chriadam | those 91 are (should be) just the "local" constituents | 09:15 |
| faenil | which means? :D | 09:15 |
| chriadam | that is, data you've entered locally on the device (either manually via People app, or automatically via importing a .vcf file -- vcf imports get saved as local contacts) | 09:15 |
| faenil | okay | 09:15 |
| chriadam | so it'll be somewhat limited | 09:15 |
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| chriadam | eg, if yo uhave a google contact synced from google, and you edit that contat in the people app and add, i dunno, another phone number | 09:16 |
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| chriadam | a new "local" constituent will be created, linked to the same aggregate as the google sync target contact, the phone numbe rwill be added to the local constituent. | 09:16 |
| faenil | ok, clear | 09:16 |
| chriadam | at that point, the local constituent / facet will contain ONLY a name + phone number -- it will NOT contain the "other" information from Google (email addresses, other phone numbers) | 09:17 |
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| chriadam | cool | 09:17 |
| faenil | what about the non-p db | 09:17 |
| faenil | you said it should export everything except fb | 09:17 |
| chriadam | the third party db contains all "exportable" data (at the moment, all data sources except fb are exportable) | 09:17 |
| faenil | third party is the one accessible as nemo, I guess | 09:18 |
| faenil | without -p | 09:18 |
| chriadam | it only contains "partial aggregates". I thought it would contain only locals, but I guess I was wrong, maybe we disabled the synctarget field altogether or something in that db | 09:18 |
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| chriadam | anyway the vcardexporter will only export contacts with synctarget="local", so if the 3rd party db contacts don't have that value set in their synctarget field, they won't get exported by it | 09:19 |
| faenil | ah ok | 09:19 |
| faenil | so, what about the "local"s I have in the priviledged db | 09:19 |
| faenil | how do I know if I have to save those, or they're on google already | 09:19 |
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| chriadam | no way to tell, really. in any case, there's no downside to importing them again once you've deleted your db, as the sync algo should be smart enough to not duplicate those details in teh aggregate after googl esync. | 09:20 |
| faenil | okay... | 09:21 |
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| chriadam | basically, you should assume that the "local" contacts in the privileged db, are data you own / need to export / backup and then import / restore. | 09:21 |
| faenil | so now I delete the contacts.db (or also the other files in the same folder?) | 09:21 |
| chriadam | all of the files | 09:21 |
| faenil | ok | 09:22 |
| chriadam | and then reboot, just in case contactsd / commhistoryd / voicecall-ui / messages / msyncd or something else had some open file handles | 09:22 |
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| faenil | chriadam, well, that doesn't help a lot, I sync online because I don't want the burdain of backin up, and you tell me I can't be sure if they're online :D | 09:22 |
| faenil | ok | 09:22 |
| chriadam | your case is exceptional, though. | 09:22 |
| faenil | yeah but won't there always be "local" constituents? | 09:23 |
| faenil | even if they've been upsynced | 09:23 |
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| chriadam | yes. but in general we can be sure that the upsync succeeded and that everything is fine and on the cloud. in your case, we're not sure ;-) | 09:23 |
| faenil | :D | 09:23 |
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| faenil | so, in any case, if I don't trust your algo, and I want to check, there's no way to check if they've been upsynced already | 09:24 |
| faenil | (generally speaking) | 09:24 |
| chriadam | other than manually checking each contact on the server? not that I'm aware of | 09:24 |
| faenil | ok | 09:24 |
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| faenil | chriadam, both /home/nemo/.local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ | 09:26 |
| faenil | and /home/nemo/.local/share/system/priviledged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ | 09:26 |
| faenil | ? | 09:26 |
| chriadam | yes | 09:26 |
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| faenil | ok | 09:26 |
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| faenil | chriadam, what's -shm and -wal btw? | 09:27 |
| faenil | (I know, too many questions, sorry :D ) | 09:27 |
| chriadam | wal is the write-ahead-log | 09:27 |
| faenil | ok | 09:27 |
| chriadam | shm... I'm guessing inter-process locks via shared memory regions | 09:27 |
| faenil | yeah | 09:28 |
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| faenil | lol there's a "Chat Single" entry in my db, probably one of those preinstalled SIM services xD | 09:33 |
| Stskeeps | Single Chat? | 09:33 |
| faenil | Chat Single, is the name | 09:33 |
| faenil | and it's a 5digits number, so I guess it's some of that operator bs :) | 09:34 |
| Nicd- | hot singles in your area? | 09:34 |
| faenil | yeah, I guess it's something like that xD | 09:34 |
| faenil | that shouldn't be on a SIM, imho :p | 09:34 |
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| faenil | only 3 gtalk contacts...let's hope msyncd is still working | 09:35 |
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| faenil | chriadam, it seems the Sync didn't trigger telepathy contacts syncing | 09:38 |
| chriadam | it won't | 09:38 |
| faenil | ah | 09:38 |
| faenil | how comes | 09:38 |
| chriadam | telepathy contacts / contactsd is only triggered by network changes or roster changes reported on XMPP | 09:38 |
| faenil | that su....rprises me :D | 09:39 |
| faenil | how can I manually trigger it? | 09:39 |
| chriadam | not sure if you can | 09:39 |
| faenil | ok, how do I get my chat contacts back XD | 09:39 |
| chriadam | flight mode on/off might work | 09:39 |
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| faenil | mmmm xD | 09:40 |
| w00t | well, or restart contactsd, right? | 09:40 |
| * artemma wonders why the word "telepathy" is shown to end user at all. Is it supposed to communicate that Jolla knows it all anyway? :) | 09:40 | |
| faenil | is this intended? sync not syncing telepathy contacts as well | 09:40 |
| chriadam | w00t: probably | 09:40 |
| chriadam | faenil: telepathy contacts are ephemeral, they're not part of sync but IM | 09:40 |
| chriadam | they come and go as you enter or leave connectivity | 09:41 |
| chriadam | I don't know what the XMPP ping spacing is, maybe 2 minutes. if you wait 2 minutes, no doubt they'll come back. | 09:41 |
| faenil | chriadam, are you really telling me you can't do anything to ask for your tp contacts on sync action? :D | 09:41 |
| chriadam | correct. | 09:41 |
| faenil | okay :) | 09:41 |
| faenil | is that a xmpp protocol decision, or? | 09:42 |
| chriadam | as I said, they're not synchronized | 09:42 |
| faenil | right | 09:42 |
| faenil | but, there must be a place which holds a list of your gtalk contacts | 09:42 |
| chriadam | there is probably a way to pull the current roster using XMPP, which telepathy would support | 09:42 |
| faenil | and fb contacts | 09:42 |
| chriadam | yes, they're the ephemeral telepathy contacts in the contacts db, which represent your roster buddies | 09:43 |
| w00t | what is the actual problem here? | 09:43 |
| chriadam | after a reboot, our telepathy connectors haven't picked up the rosters properly / yet | 09:44 |
| w00t | there's a cache | 09:44 |
| chriadam | so the gchat contacts aren't visible in the contacts app etc | 09:44 |
| w00t | if you haven't removed contactsd's cache, it won't know they're missing | 09:44 |
| chriadam | ah | 09:44 |
| chriadam | explains it | 09:44 |
| chriadam | but reboot? | 09:44 |
| w00t | doesn't matter | 09:44 |
| faenil | w00t, I have just deleted contacts.db and restarted, after discovering my contacts after up7 were messed as s*** :p | 09:44 |
| w00t | it's a disk cache | 09:44 |
| chriadam | ah | 09:45 |
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| faenil | w00t, thanks for the explanation, btw | 09:45 |
| faenil | so, the way it works is that every 2mins (or similar) the phone pings somewhere to get the contacts list? or does it just see who's online and saves those? or? | 09:46 |
| faenil | as you said it's not synched, how does it take the list of contacts | 09:46 |
| w00t | it's an instant messaging program. it's permanently connected. it gets a list on connect, and gets changes as long as it's connected. | 09:46 |
| faenil | w00t, ok, so there *is* a way to get contacts, couldn't you just disconnect/reconnect telepathy when you sync? | 09:47 |
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| w00t | again, the problem is not the way it works, the problem is the cache file | 09:47 |
| faenil | (in this case, I had to trigger flight mode) | 09:47 |
| faenil | well, triggering flight mode did it... | 09:48 |
| * w00t gives up | 09:48 | |
| faenil | is the cache invalidated when I trigger flight mode? | 09:48 |
| faenil | otherwise, I don't see why the outcome should be different before and after flight mode triggering | 09:48 |
| w00t | it works for all normal use cases. if you're blowing up your database, you're in uncharted territory :P | 09:48 |
| faenil | w00t, YOU are blowing up my db, not me | 09:49 |
| w00t | 11:46 < faenil> w00t, I have just deleted contacts.db | 09:49 |
| w00t | I don't think I did that ;) | 09:49 |
| faenil | w00t, I was forced to do that | 09:49 |
| faenil | because sailfish screwed up my contacts for good | 09:49 |
| w00t | still, the point is that this is *not* how the software is designed to work | 09:49 |
| faenil | so screwed that I had to resort to that :P | 09:49 |
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| chriadam | to be fair, there is definitely a bug in my google contacts sync code. but to be equally fair, the duplication / horrendousness was probably caused by the fact that you had that apk installed at the time tha tthe upgrade occurred. | 09:50 |
| w00t | if you want to make it work in those conditions, you're going to have to resort to strange things | 09:50 |
| faenil | w00t, so there's this cache, right? it think I have X contacts....why would triggering flight mode (i.e. connection) change the cache | 09:51 |
| faenil | it thinks* | 09:51 |
| w00t | the code's open source - go have a look | 09:52 |
| w00t | you want to look at contactsd | 09:52 |
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| faenil | w00t, you said you give up so I thought it was so easy you could explain it here, okay I'll have a look when I get some spare time | 09:52 |
| w00t | I give up trying to explain why things are happening because the explanations are probably not straightforward/strange because deleting a database is not your typical usecase, not because it's easy | 09:53 |
| chriadam | anyway, found one definite real bug out of this, and the information I need to fix it, which is good. | 09:54 |
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| faenil | chriadam, awesome, glad to hear that | 09:55 |
| rcg | w00t, yeah, it's always difficult to explain reasons why something works the way it does. you quickly end up with discussing long and well thought out design decisions. | 09:56 |
| faenil | w00t, so, without going into that, and without bothering you, what should I study so I can understand how chat contacts are handled and why it seems to be impossible to get them back when you hit SYNC, as every normal user would expect? | 09:56 |
| w00t | faenil: do you have to press a button to sync the contact list of your google talk client? | 09:56 |
| w00t | (answer: no, that's not how anyone expects it to work) | 09:56 |
| faenil | untill it doesn't work | 09:56 |
| faenil | so I look for a button :D | 09:57 |
| faenil | ok, I got your point about the usecase | 09:57 |
| faenil | but, still, I want to learn how it works | 09:57 |
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| w00t | the way it works is (roughly, because I haven't looked at this code since ~2011) like this: on connect, grab a contact list, diff it against the cache file, save any differences - then save any changes that come in live | 09:58 |
| w00t | (cache file and 'save any changes' because (unlike typical IM) you expect to have the contact list even while disconnected) | 09:58 |
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| faenil | w00t, that's how I expected it to work...still don't see what's wrong with disconnecting/reconnecting to make sure the contacts list is synced...if I press Sync, I press it for a reason...and that reason may be "I want chat contacts *now*" for whatever reason...otherwise yes, contacts sync is also done automatically once a day, but that's not what I'm looking for when I press Sync | 10:02 |
| faenil | anyway, that's my opinion, on what I'd expect from a page with the word "messaging" in it, which offers a "Sync now" feature | 10:02 |
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| tortoisedoc | bah | 10:29 |
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| faenil | chriadam, after importing the vcs which I exported before, I have 7 clones of a contact | 10:44 |
| faenil | (there aren't 7 clones in the vcs) | 10:44 |
| chriadam | that's highly irregular | 10:44 |
| faenil | ah no it's 8 | 10:45 |
| chriadam | even more irregular | 10:45 |
| faenil | I'll try deleting them and import again | 10:46 |
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| faenil | mmm deletion of the last 2 clones fails xD | 10:49 |
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| faenil | worked now, 5th try | 10:50 |
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| faenil | chriadam, reimported, only one contact now... | 10:54 |
| faenil | yay for eisenbugs | 10:54 |
| faenil | off to lunch, bbl | 10:54 |
| chriadam | vstrange | 10:54 |
| chriadam | happy munching | 10:54 |
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| rafalo1333 | Hello Sailors! ;) | 11:08 |
| chriadam | hi rafalo1333 | 11:08 |
| rafalo1333 | Is anybody testing Jolla Launcher right now? I am waiting for e-mail with link ;) | 11:10 |
| rafalo1333 | Seems like channel is rather empty right now :) | 11:14 |
| peppelakappa | i requested the launcher too, nothing in my inbox yet | 11:15 |
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| nodevel | hey. anyone that understands how timedclient (timedclient-qt5) works? I'm trying to send a dbus call, but can't figure out what to put in as 'object'. | 11:23 |
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| rafalo1333 | Hope e-mails will arrive soon :) | 11:27 |
| rafalo1333 | BTW, are any devs here that can help with Sailfish app development problem? | 11:28 |
| rafalo1333 | I am learning Silica and QML | 11:28 |
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| rafalo1333 | And I dont know how can I communicate between pages with ID's | 11:28 |
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| chriadam | rafalo1333: ids are component-scoped | 11:29 |
| chriadam | depending on what you mean by "communicate between pages" you'll either want to connect signals to slots, or you'll want to set properties | 11:30 |
| rafalo1333 | So, how can I communicate between page1 and page2 from page2? | 11:30 |
| rafalo1333 | I want to for example set property url for webView on other Page from "settings" page ;) | 11:31 |
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| nodevel | rafalo1333: not sure if this is a proper way, but I usually declare few global variables (like your url) on the main page | 11:50 |
| nodevel | when you have your 'harbour-myapp.qml' and declare 'property string url' in ApplicationWindow, then all your pages can access this property | 11:51 |
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| nodevel | if there's a better way, then I try to avoid this, but it works well | 11:52 |
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| rafalo1333 | I have the page "page1", with SilicaWebView "webView1", so url of the webView is page is page1.webVew1.url, right? But how can I write to this property from page "page2"? I tried root.page1.webView1.url and other stupid combinations, but nothing works... I am new to QML/QT and Silica :) | 11:53 |
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| rafalo1333 | What is the root od all the ID's? | 11:53 |
| faenil | chriadam, sorry if I bother again, more contacts issues :/ are you still awake? | 11:54 |
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| chriadam | yeah, still awake | 11:55 |
| nodevel | rafalo1333: I'd do it this way: you one file with ApplicationWindow {}, right? | 11:55 |
| nodevel | *you have | 11:55 |
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| rafalo1333 | I tried one file with ApplicationWindows{}, and combination with pages in "pages" directory ;) | 11:56 |
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| faenil | chriadam, so, 1) I have 2 contacts which the same number which haven't been merged (why?) | 11:58 |
| faenil | 2) the android contacts is a *mess*, it's full of "(No Name)" and numbers without names | 11:58 |
| faenil | (and then the real contacts) | 11:58 |
| chriadam | do those 2 contacts have the same name? | 11:58 |
| faenil | nope, same number | 11:59 |
| nodevel | rafalo1333: then just set a property call i.e. 'myUrl' (property string myUrl) under ApplicationWindow. In your WebView on page1, set url to myUrl (url: myUrl). then in your page2 you can access myUrl any way you want (like myUrl = "http://jolla.com ) :) | 11:59 |
| nodevel | *called | 11:59 |
| chriadam | same number isn't enough to make them merged. eg, family members often share the same home phone number. | 11:59 |
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| chriadam | for android contacts, well I have no idea why that would be the case. can you do a quick: sqlite3 /home/nemo/.local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/contacts.db "select * from contacts;" -- check that they all have name data there? | 12:00 |
| rafalo1333 | Great! I will try it ;) | 12:00 |
| faenil | chriadam, mmm I wonder how other OSes do that then :/ quite sure they were merged in other phones...anyway, your point is valid | 12:00 |
| rafalo1333 | Thanks ;) | 12:00 |
| flux | often? perhaps it's regional, but nowadays people just have their own numbers? | 12:00 |
| nodevel | rafalo1333: no problem :) | 12:00 |
| faenil | chriadam, basically situation in android is how it was before I cleaned the db, + nonames | 12:00 |
| chriadam | flux: depends on the type of phone number, too. mobile phones are generally per-person obviously, but landline phones? they are often shared (eg, husband and wife, same home phone number, etc) | 12:01 |
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| nodevel | rafalo1333: and remember that properties can have their value set on declaration (like 'property string myUrl:'http://sailfishos.org' ), so you don't have to set it later manually | 12:01 |
| flux | chriadam, right, correct. forgot about those, because nobody here anymore uses landline phones.. | 12:02 |
| artemma | Samsung Contacts Hub (not sure abt general Google Phonebook) merges clear copies automagically, for the "probable copies" you see suggestions when trying to link accounts. Pretty much same as Sailfish, though I think sailfish sameness detection rules could be improved | 12:02 |
| faenil | chriadam, http://pastebin.com/dnBp6YPx | 12:02 |
| faenil | that's the end of the result | 12:02 |
| rafalo1333 | nodevel: awesome, time to run the SDK ;) | 12:02 |
| faenil | and those are the clones (they're 8 actually) | 12:02 |
| faenil | that I talked about before leaving for lunch | 12:02 |
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| chriadam | artemma: no doubt they could. https://github.com/nemomobile/qtcontacts-sqlite/blob/master/src/engine/contactwriter.cpp#L2701 -- patches welcome ;-) | 12:04 |
| chriadam | faenil: wait, that's the only contact which is in the db? | 12:05 |
| faenil | chriadam, nono | 12:05 |
| faenil | just noticed that it still has the clones | 12:05 |
| chriadam | ah ok | 12:05 |
| faenil | I don't know how to check the nonames | 12:05 |
| faenil | there's a lot of ||||||| though | 12:05 |
| faenil | which are probably related | 12:06 |
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| chriadam | out of interest, does that contact only appear once in the privileged db? | 12:06 |
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| faenil | chriadam, no it appears 12 times, 6 as google, 6 as aggregate | 12:07 |
| faenil | oh, now they're back, I have 6 Manuele in my phone app | 12:07 |
| faenil | (I deleted them manually before leaving for lunch...) | 12:07 |
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| faenil | chriadam, this is from priviledged http://pastebin.com/SGxmeb64 | 12:10 |
| chriadam | can you do "select * from guids where contactId in (1697, 1699, 1701, 1703, 1705, 1707);" | 12:11 |
| chriadam | hopefully they are prefixed by the account id, this time... | 12:12 |
| faenil | chriadam, id is correct | 12:12 |
| faenil | oh, cool, my google is full of cloned contacts | 12:13 |
| faenil | (google web ui) | 12:13 |
| chriadam | ok, well the id part at least is good. the cloned contacts... not so much. | 12:13 |
| faenil | 276 -> 473 | 12:13 |
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| faenil | contacts | 12:13 |
| chriadam | I'd love to know for certain if that's being caused by the sailfish sync adapter. | 12:14 |
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| faenil | chriadam, contactssyncadapter.apk is back, fwiw | 12:16 |
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| chriadam | uh | 12:16 |
| faenil | gplay must have done some magic | 12:16 |
| chriadam | how and why | 12:16 |
| faenil | (I guess) | 12:16 |
| chriadam | grargh | 12:16 |
| faenil | chriadam, ah no neverming, that's the gapps fodler | 12:17 |
| faenil | chriadam, it's not back | 12:17 |
| faenil | sorry for the heart attack :D | 12:17 |
| chriadam | hrm | 12:17 |
| rafalo1333 | I am back, SDK is open ;) | 12:19 |
| faenil | one contact is cloned 8 times on google web as well | 12:19 |
| faenil | gah, I don't get what's going on here :) | 12:19 |
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| faenil | contacts get cloned random number of times | 12:19 |
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| rafalo1333 | I have the second question :) How can I use the class declared in mysailfishapp.cpp file? | 12:19 |
| faenil | some 2, some 4, some 5, some 6, some 8 times | 12:20 |
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| chriadam | faenil: your device is haunted | 12:21 |
| chriadam | I blame ghosts ;-) | 12:21 |
| SK_work | rafalo1333: mind giving context ? | 12:21 |
| SK_work | I would guess qmlRegisterType, or context->setContextProperty() ? | 12:21 |
| faenil | chriadam, I wish I could agree :D | 12:21 |
| chriadam | Hi SK_work how's things? | 12:21 |
| rafalo1333 | I have my class with 3 methods in it returning string value. I wanna use it in QML but I dont know how | 12:22 |
| chriadam | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtqml-cppintegration-topic.html | 12:23 |
| chriadam | faenil: I'll talk to matt about it again tomorrow, maybe he'll have some ideas :-/ | 12:25 |
| chriadam | for now, I need sleep. gnight everyone. | 12:25 |
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| faenil | chriadam|away, sure, have some rest | 12:25 |
| faenil | and thanks for trying | 12:25 |
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| faenil | special, "Our measurements indicate that a typical mid-sized Qt Quick application startup is 30-40% faster with compiled Qt Quick. This is an excellent improvement and we believe we can improve this even more in the future. The highest startup time improvements we’ve gotten are as high as 90% in the case where the application is very JavaScript intense and contains no other items, like graphics, to load at startup." | 12:28 |
| faenil | just read it on 5.3.1 release notes :) | 12:28 |
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| special | faenil: not very useful while it's enterprise-only, though. | 12:30 |
| faenil | special, of course | 12:30 |
| faenil | special, though this sentence is a bit ambiguous -> "The new Qt Quick Compiler we introduced with Qt Enterprise 5.3 is now available as a fully supported 1.0.0 version" | 12:30 |
| faenil | but yeah, I guess it's still ent only | 12:31 |
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| cos- | vote for this.. it's a really annoying "feature" https://together.jolla.com/question/25819/keep-captions-when-arranging-launcher-icons/ | 12:38 |
| SK_work | cos-: there is a patch for that | 12:39 |
| cos- | this is a duplicate https://together.jolla.com/question/42810/show-app-and-folder-titles-on-launcher-arrange-mode/ | 12:39 |
| cos- | SK_work: yep, but i hope it will change with next update | 12:39 |
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| ponky | hng, anyone working on mosh for sailfish? | 12:40 |
| ponky | oh, it's there already? o_o | 12:40 |
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| cos- | i just arranged my icons into folders, and had to return from edit mode several times to check the names of apps and folders. | 12:41 |
| pp | at least http://repo.merproject.org/obs/sailfishos:/chum:/1.0.7.16/1.0.7.16_armv7hl/armv7hl/ | 12:41 |
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| nh1402 | https://together.jolla.com/question/44587/jolla-launcher-alpha-release/ | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | cos-: playing the memory-game :p | 13:04 |
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| kontio | jake9xx: your FC Barcelona towel is still in the basement :) | 13:19 |
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| coderus | both Ark and mc are segfaulted when i tried to open sailfish-1.0.5.16-oss.tar.bz2 :D | 18:15 |
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| ruskie | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/06/25/supreme_court_ruling_mobile_search_needs_warrant/ | 18:22 |
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| jake9xx | kontio: ouch. you need biohazard stuff to get rid of it | 18:53 |
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| toroisedoc | jake9xx : what's the bug which requires biohazard stuff to get rid of? :P | 19:05 |
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| energycsdx | hi | 19:07 |
| energycsdx | will jolla launcher work on 4.2.2 & | 19:08 |
| energycsdx | ? | 19:08 |
| toroisedoc | jolla guys! | 19:08 |
| toroisedoc | is the jolla launcher qt + qml or android stuff? | 19:08 |
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| M4rtinK | toroisedoc: while I'm not myself interested in the concept of the launcher itself | 19:10 |
| M4rtinK | toroisedoc: it would be interesting to know how it is made | 19:10 |
| M4rtinK | as quite a lot of stuff used by lipstick & co is missing with just plain Qt 5 on Android | 19:11 |
| toroisedoc | makes sense | 19:12 |
| M4rtinK | on the other hand just writing the thing from the ground up (even if it doesn't really do the same thing as on Sailfish OS) would seem as quite q waste of resources | 19:12 |
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| toroisedoc | M4rtinK : marketing | 19:14 |
| M4rtinK | well, sure | 19:15 |
| M4rtinK | but I don't get it how the marketing is supposed to work :) | 19:15 |
| M4rtinK | other than "everybody is doing it, we need to do it too!" | 19:15 |
| toroisedoc | well | 19:15 |
| toroisedoc | this sounds like a marketing question, sooo..... | 19:16 |
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| jake9xx | 19:19 | |
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| jake9xx | toroisedoc: afaik it' qt+qml | 19:19 |
| toroisedoc | jake9xx : ok so qt lighthouse? | 19:20 |
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| toroisedoc | 2011 ??? :O | 19:22 |
| toroisedoc | (is this related to the same discussion..) | 19:23 |
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| M4rtinK | well Qt 5 officially supports Android | 19:25 |
| M4rtinK | officially = Digia supports it | 19:25 |
| M4rtinK | not Google of course, that would be too logical :P | 19:26 |
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| toroisedoc | ok yeah | 19:31 |
| toroisedoc | then its definitely lighthouse | 19:31 |
| toroisedoc | ergo, the launcher does not rely on wayland for example | 19:31 |
| toroisedoc | but on some android mumbojumbo | 19:31 |
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| toroisedoc | which makes sense :P | 19:32 |
| M4rtinK | IIRC it was Lighthouse -> Necessitas -> official support in Qt 5 | 19:32 |
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| gogeta | hi guys | 19:38 |
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| smoku | phew... looking-up a contact by phone number wouldn't be so difficult if only docs for QtContacts weren't so outdated... :/ | 22:30 |
| smoku | it took me 0.5h+ of poking QContactManager to finally spew my contact ;-) | 22:31 |
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