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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.7.0 update. Download: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu Changelog: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu2/releases/tag/v0.7.0 | 07:52 |
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| Bysmyyr_ | coderus: thx | 07:52 |
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| Bysmyyr | coderus: sorry about stupid question but what this means: "Hiding contacts. Showing by shaking phone." | 07:58 |
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| smokex | hahaha | 08:02 |
| smokex | means bad translation I hope :D | 08:02 |
| coderus | Bysmyyr: new context menu for contacts - Hide/Un-hide | 08:02 |
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| coderus | hidden contact will be hidden from list after deactivating - activating application | 08:03 |
| smokex | you wat contact? shake vigorously and throw at your tv | 08:03 |
| coderus | and you can show hidden contacts by shaking phone. | 08:03 |
| smokex | thats actually kinda cool | 08:03 |
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| Bysmyyr | coderus: ooh, thats nice | 08:04 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: +1 | 08:10 |
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| coderus | i'll probably write Mitakuuluu user guide some day... :D | 08:13 |
| coderus | many peoples dont know many features of application :) | 08:13 |
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| kimmoli | When you support starting apps from mitäkuuluu? so no need for launcher anymore, just keep mitäkuuluu on top ? :) | 09:02 |
| Stskeeps | mitakuuluu phone | 09:02 |
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| joonahoi | heheh, when will there be emacs built in to mitäkuuluu?) | 09:03 |
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| squidd | mitäkuuluuemacs | 09:11 |
| squidd | vi > emacs | 09:11 |
| squidd | now fight! | 09:11 |
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| Acce | what, is there no whatsapp plugin for emacs | 09:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | wow | 09:15 |
| tortoisedoc | whatsapp for emacs :D | 09:15 |
| tbr | just boot into emacs as userspace... | 09:16 |
| tbr | init=/usr/bin/emacs | 09:16 |
| tbr | done | 09:16 |
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| coderus | feel free to post your feature-requests to github ;) | 09:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | HA! | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | found a bug | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | :| | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | Qtcreator | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | make a project with sub projects | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | and try to run one of the subprojects on device | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | path takes the wrong name | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | i.e. | 09:28 |
| tortoisedoc | /opt/sdk/<mainprojectname>/usr/bin/ etc | 09:29 |
| tortoisedoc | instead of | 09:29 |
| tortoisedoc | /opt/sdk/<runprojectname>/usr/bin/ etc | 09:29 |
| tortoisedoc | solution : set alternative command in run sheet of project | 09:29 |
| kaltsi | how do you do subprojects and what's the use-case for them? | 09:31 |
| tortoisedoc | kaltsi : multiple exe's in one package? | 09:32 |
| tortoisedoc | (for example) | 09:32 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: well, not technically allowed in harbour | 09:32 |
| tortoisedoc | SK_work : having multiple exe's in harbour? | 09:32 |
| SK_work | and also the deploy to /opt/sdk might be broken in QtC side | 09:32 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: IIRC, not allowed | 09:33 |
| tortoisedoc | I second the last one | 09:33 |
| tortoisedoc | SK_work : not a problem, I am currently testing | 09:33 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: right :) | 09:33 |
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| kaltsi | how do you do a subproject? :) | 09:33 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: thought about packaging and deploying instead of rsyncing to /opt/sdk ? | 09:33 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah | 09:33 |
| tortoisedoc | but faster is better :P | 09:33 |
| SK_work | kaltsi: TEMPLATE = subdirs\nSUBDIRS = somesubdir someothersubdir | 09:33 |
| SK_work | tortoisedoc: yep I agree | 09:34 |
| SK_work | thought I always use rpm | 09:34 |
| kaltsi | ah that way | 09:34 |
| tortoisedoc | kaltsi: as per SK_work | 09:34 |
| SK_work | just to get path correct | 09:34 |
| tortoisedoc | yeah | 09:34 |
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| SK_work | tortoisedoc: I think that the rsyncing stuff fails to understand how to install | 09:34 |
| SK_work | ... | 09:34 |
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| tortoisedoc | it's kind of confusing that the "deply binaries" has a different target as "deploy RPM",with all consequences | 09:34 |
| tortoisedoc | perhaps argument passed to function which calls rsync takes $(ProjectName) :P | 09:35 |
| tortoisedoc | going to report this to tjc | 09:35 |
| kaltsi | add a detailed example so it's easy to test, please :) | 09:35 |
| kaltsi | or if you have something in github that can be cloned, that would be ofcoz the best | 09:36 |
| tortoisedoc | hmm | 09:38 |
| tortoisedoc | github | 09:38 |
| tortoisedoc | this unknown | 09:38 |
| * tortoisedoc old skool svn dude | 09:39 | |
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| kaltsi | svnhub? :) | 09:41 |
| tortoisedoc | https://together.jolla.com/question/43752/qtcreator-execution-of-exe-from-a-subdirs-sub-project-runs-with-wrong-path/ | 09:41 |
| tortoisedoc | :D | 09:41 |
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| kaltsi | I added a tag there (sdk) | 09:42 |
| tortoisedoc | ah thanks | 09:42 |
| tortoisedoc | good point | 09:42 |
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| tortoisedoc | btw, stepping is unusually slow via wlan | 09:48 |
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| stephg | am I being retarded (I probably am) but is there a cleaner way to remove cross compile objects from projects built with mb2 when switching from intel to arm beyond make distclean et al? | 10:35 |
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| special | 'git clean' is helpful, but sometimes dangerous if there are any files you care about under the repository | 10:36 |
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| special | 'git clean -dfx .' removes everything untracked under the current path | 10:37 |
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| special | untracked or ignored | 10:37 |
| stephg | perfect thanks special | 10:37 |
| stephg | I'd clobbered by hand the .o's but it had left Makefiles around | 10:38 |
| stephg | everything looks like a nail when all you have is git | 10:38 |
| stephg | ;) | 10:38 |
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| kaltsi | but you need to be careful if you've added that one file there which you have not yet committed before git cleaning :) | 10:49 |
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| kaltsi | but I always do git clean -xdf too.. and only once did I lose a file that way :p | 10:50 |
| stephg | ... so far ;) | 10:53 |
| kaltsi | yep.. when iterating the sdk tests I used to manually rm -rf ~/.config/SailfishAlphaX .. until once I did rm -rf ~/.config | 10:54 |
| kaltsi | luckily I had backups :) | 10:55 |
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| stephg | eep | 10:59 |
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| stephg | -f is unfeasibly dangerous | 11:00 |
| stephg | fwiw | 11:00 |
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| * stephg stupid mervncserver | 11:03 | |
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| stephg | kontio: are you here by any chance? | 11:09 |
| kontio | stephg: yes | 11:09 |
| stephg | ooh hello | 11:09 |
| kontio | hi | 11:09 |
| flux | it'd be sort of nice if the snapshotting feature of btrfs were used for 'time machine'-like rolling back of changes :) | 11:10 |
| stephg | quick question, messing around with mervncserver, got it built fine for both intel and arm | 11:10 |
| stephg | in both though it will start but immediately closes connection if you connect to it | 11:10 |
| stephg | no error, nada | 11:10 |
| kontio | how do you connect to it? it limits connection to usb-net | 11:11 |
| stephg | usbnet on device and I did the vbox port forwarding on the emulator | 11:11 |
| kontio | since no user/pw is needed to connecto to it... | 11:11 |
| stephg | right | 11:11 |
| stephg | which branches is the working one from? | 11:12 |
| stephg | master for mervncserver and also libvncserver? | 11:12 |
| kontio | yes I use master | 11:12 |
| stephg | also how do you detect that it's on the usbnet, via IP or something else | 11:12 |
| stephg | (am trying on my n4 not my jolla) | 11:12 |
| kontio | stephg: https://github.com/mer-qa/mervncserver/blob/master/src/screentovnc.cpp#L628-L647 | 11:14 |
| kontio | ah | 11:14 |
| kontio | so your interface might not be rndis0 | 11:14 |
| kontio | it's currently hardcoded | 11:14 |
| stephg | that would also explain why it no worky on the emulator either | 11:14 |
| stephg | yes one sec lets see what it's called | 11:14 |
| kontio | for emulator mouse does not work... | 11:15 |
| stephg | ah ok | 11:15 |
| kontio | since /dev/input/event0 is also hardcoded.. | 11:15 |
| kontio | in emulator it's an other device but can't remember which... | 11:15 |
| kontio | https://github.com/mer-qa/mervncserver/blob/master/src/screentovnc.cpp#L194 | 11:15 |
| kontio | so that you would need to adapt too... | 11:15 |
| kontio | and since we read directly from fb, not sure if that works for the n4, Stskeeps warned me that might not work... | 11:16 |
| stephg | yup it's usb0 on the n4 | 11:16 |
| stephg | let me hack that up and watch the comedy ensue :) | 11:17 |
| stephg | thanks! | 11:17 |
| kontio | u'r welcome | 11:17 |
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| ziggy42 | is someone of you using ubuntu with unity? I hate the missing integration with unity of the IDE... | 11:22 |
| kaltsi | what kind of integration? | 11:22 |
| ziggy42 | HUD working and the menu on the top panel | 11:24 |
| kaltsi | hmm what's HUD? (I use ubuntu but avoid unity) | 11:24 |
| stephg | the windows-key search thingy I think | 11:25 |
| * stephg also avoids unity | 11:25 | |
| ziggy42 | Yep. If you start using it it's really cool. I like it very much. | 11:25 |
| kaltsi | which ubuntu version? | 11:26 |
| Loris_ | No i think HUD is the [ALT] menü...the windows-key-menu is called dash | 11:26 |
| ziggy42 | 14.04 | 11:26 |
| cos- | almost everyone who uses Ubuntu at the office uses Cinnamon instead of unity | 11:26 |
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| ziggy42 | yes Alt is the dash for the commands :D you press 'Alt' the type new and is like go to file->new | 11:26 |
| zbenjamin | my jolla keeps crashing on me. I'm in a area where is have mobile internet disabled because of roaming and move between different WiFi hotspots. After some time the phone freezes after unlocking it and the red led starts blinking | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | zbenjamin: yes, there's a nasty blocking dbus call :/ | 11:27 |
| kaltsi | ziggy42: do you happen to have the real qtcreator installed too.. does it support those features? | 11:27 |
| zbenjamin | Stskeeps: ah ok so its known already , thats good | 11:27 |
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| ziggy42 | kaltsi: well, with the QtCreator downloaded from qt-project no, it's the same thing of Sailfish IDE. I don't try the one on the ubuntu repo. Of course UbuntuSDK that is based on QtCreator has the integration | 11:29 |
| kaltsi | ok | 11:29 |
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| kaltsi | well any distro specific support would require that the upstream qt creator has sailfish support and the distro then adds their own bits on top of that | 11:30 |
| kaltsi | that's our goal, but I'm afraid it's a long shot with the current approach we have | 11:31 |
| cos- | sounds like QtC is fragmenting quite badly nowadays | 11:34 |
| stephg | kontio: it's alive! (kinda!) | 11:34 |
| ziggy42 | kaltsi: of course I can live with these missing features :) but it would be really cool to have the integration. Hud and menus on top panel is some of the reasons why I use unity. For the people that hates unity, guys you should try it for a month. | 11:34 |
| zbenjamin | ziggy42: whats your problem? i'm working on the ubuntu-sdk | 11:35 |
| kontio | stephg: what does not work? | 11:35 |
| kaltsi | ziggy42: sure, I'm just saying that it's not going to happen any time soon :p | 11:36 |
| stephg | it connects and sets up the display | 11:36 |
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| stephg | kontio: and also the finger overlap detects mouse presses | 11:37 |
| ziggy42 | zbenjamin: no problems :D I'd like to have HUD and menu on the top panel on Sailfish IDE :) | 11:37 |
| stephg | but the screen is blank and gestures don't seem to register actually on the device | 11:37 |
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| zbenjamin | ziggy42: aa, that one :) | 11:37 |
| stephg | e.g. you swipe up and down on vnc and nothing happens on-device | 11:37 |
| ziggy42 | :) | 11:37 |
| saidinesh5 | can any one tell me whats the version of malliit that sailfish latest uses? | 11:37 |
| zbenjamin | ziggy42: i guess you would have to compile it yourself on ubuntu | 11:37 |
| saidinesh5 | maliit and even Qt i think (maliit is tied to the Qt version its compiled for right?) | 11:38 |
| stephg | saidinesh5: maliit-framework-wayland-0.99.0+git1795.17fdf86-1.8.11.armv7hl maliit-framework-wayland-inputcontext-0.99.0+git1795.17fdf86-1.8.11.armv7hl | 11:38 |
| zbenjamin | ziggy42: i guess the downloaded one does not use the system qt binaries right? | 11:38 |
| saidinesh5 | thanks stephg | 11:38 |
| saidinesh5 | and grrrr still having a hard time getting maliit to compile and run on desktop | 11:38 |
| saidinesh5 | stephg: do you have any instructions on how to get maliit up and running on desktop? | 11:39 |
| stephg | none whatsoever I'm afraid, just happened to have a ssh to a device infront of me to pull the package versions for you | 11:39 |
| saidinesh5 | Ahhh | 11:39 |
| saidinesh5 | thanks | 11:39 |
| saidinesh5 | also stephg is sailfish's vkb foss? | 11:40 |
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| ziggy42 | zbenjamin: You're talking about things a little bit out of my knowledge at the moment :D I can live with missing HUD, of course it will be cool to have it but it's ok :) | 11:40 |
| saidinesh5 | heh nice nick ArtVandalae | 11:40 |
| stephg | someone correct me if I'm wrong but most of it is, I think the word prediction isn't though | 11:40 |
| kontio | stephg: yeah might well be that the events sent in https://github.com/mer-qa/mervncserver/blob/master/src/screentovnc.cpp#L487 are specific for that touch driver? not sure... I cough them with /system/bin/getevent tool... | 11:40 |
| saidinesh5 | Ah | 11:41 |
| kontio | and if the fb is organized differently, then, well you get a black screen... | 11:41 |
| stephg | kontio: yeah | 11:41 |
| saidinesh5 | thanks stephg | 11:41 |
| saidinesh5 | getting back to abusing maliit | 11:41 |
| stephg | let me poke around more, at least I can compare with a jolla | 11:41 |
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| zbenjamin | kaltsi: btw you could just provide a qtcreator-plugin-sailfish package for ubuntu, if you did not have to change anything outside your plugin | 11:58 |
| kaltsi | zbenjamin: it does require some changes outside the plugin and we're still with qt creator 2.8, and I think newest ubuntus have 3.x? | 11:59 |
| kaltsi | I'd like to move this to qtc 3.x first and clean it up while doing so.. but that's quite a big effort | 11:59 |
| zbenjamin | kaltsi: yeah we switched to 3.x, but we also one version behind. We also still did not get our changes upstream | 12:00 |
| kaltsi | sailfish creator sources are here btw https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sailfish-qtcreator | 12:00 |
| kaltsi | zbenjamin: the problem with our qt creator approach is the story without sailfish installer.. without the virtual machines the plugin is not very useful currently | 12:03 |
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| coderus | kaltsi: i'm using sdk in chroot with no VM and its very useful ;) | 12:04 |
| kaltsi | coderus: yes I'd like to provide that option somehow too so that a user could select VM or chroot | 12:05 |
| coderus | why linux user can prefer vm instead of chroot? :) | 12:06 |
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| kaltsi | hmm why?.. was that the correct word? :) | 12:07 |
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| coderus | linux developers shouldnt use vms :D | 12:09 |
| flux | yep, vms are just bandaid over the lack of operating system features :) | 12:09 |
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| fzk | i heard everyone was sitting in the cloud nowadays | 12:11 |
| flux | I suppose it solves the problem if you never restart a system. that is, whenever it starts it's always from a fresh image. | 12:12 |
| flux | oh, wrong channel | 12:12 |
| cos- | remember the scratchbox days? i'd prefer vm over it.. | 12:12 |
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| coderus | scratchbox days ended with sb2 | 12:16 |
| coderus | i'd prefer sb2 migration | 12:16 |
| coderus | and crosscompilation :) | 12:16 |
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| jake9xx | fzk: well, we still repsect privacy of individuals ;) | 12:21 |
| jake9xx | flux: yes, if e.g. symlinks in windows would work like in other systems, we'd be happy w/o the vm approach | 12:22 |
| jake9xx | flux: but - the world is not turning like you want, you need to turn with it.. | 12:22 |
| coderus | jake9xx: just more options will be fine for everyone :) | 12:23 |
| coderus | not just single solution and "happy hacking" guide | 12:24 |
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| kaltsi | more options = more support but no more guys to give support = problem | 12:24 |
| kaltsi | but this chroot approach should be doable as a linux option, but it'll take some time | 12:26 |
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| lbt | kaltsi: yay :) | 12:36 |
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| coderus | Trust me, i'm an engineer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rp8hvyjZWHs | 12:39 |
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| kaltsi | that was like the git diff to upstream qtcreator | 12:44 |
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| coderus | i want to start hacking sailfish, can you provide me configuration for having ssh available all the time to restore phone? | 13:11 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: -r parameter to usbmoded service | 13:11 |
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| marxistvegan | morning folks | 13:11 |
| marxistvegan | I am on to my day 2 of running #sailfishOS on the n9 so far so good | 13:12 |
| marxistvegan | is there any recommended way to get access to contacts that are on harmattan? | 13:13 |
| cos- | running this irc channel? | 13:13 |
| flux | marxistvegan, I think togethertjolla has a link to a tool that can extract information from n9 and export it to jolla.. | 13:13 |
| coderus | marxistvegan: its not trivial. just export contacts from harmattan and import | 13:14 |
| marxistvegan | flux: oh ok I will look there | 13:14 |
| fzk | jake9xx: http://www.vmwareemeashop.com/images/sticker2.jpg?osCsid=2e71fdf8ba838269e0548b4db108d373 | 13:14 |
| marxistvegan | coderus: for some reason that seems more trivial to me cause I do not see an import feature in sailfish, unless I am looking in the wrong place | 13:17 |
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| tachikoma | hiho | 13:17 |
| marxistvegan | coderus: the only import option I see is from SIM card and that fails | 13:17 |
| tachikoma | anyone here some knowledge about the jolla mail app? | 13:18 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: where is it? | 13:18 |
| tachikoma | I hav the right credentials entered but sending mails always gives me a 'login failed' error, and enabling debugging shows me some weird messages | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: /lib/systemd/system somewhere | 13:18 |
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| coderus | marxistvegan: xdg-open file.vcf | 13:18 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: ah lib | 13:19 |
| coderus | searched in /etc only | 13:19 |
| tachikoma | what does confuse me ist the line "[985] Mai 26 15:14:19 [Debug] Messaging : void SSOSessionManager::credentialsNeedUpdate() Setting credentials need update for the service "smtp" from account 9 using authentication method "password"" | 13:19 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: ExecStart=/usr/sbin/usb_moded --systemd -r $USB_MODED_ARGS ? | 13:20 |
| phdeswer | coderus: yep. Do keep in mind this means developer mode will stay on the whole time. | 13:21 |
| coderus | i'm not using anything except devmode :D | 13:22 |
| phdeswer | No devicelock security etc... if you would use it. | 13:22 |
| phdeswer | There should be some upstart service file to disable it once UI is up somewhere. | 13:22 |
| phdeswer | If you want that (usb_moded_util -r) will restore normal behaviour until next restart if you ever need it | 13:23 |
| coderus | hmm, what is $USB_MODED_ARGS | 13:26 |
| coderus | i can just override it and use -r | 13:26 |
| phdeswer | yep | 13:26 |
| coderus | seems proposed environment folders is empty/doesnt exists | 13:27 |
| phdeswer | Those USB_MODED_ARGS come from some environment file that gets added with some internal rescue mode package (which also disables usb-moded rescue mode when UI comes up) | 13:27 |
| phdeswer | We discussed we should make it available | 13:27 |
| coderus | ah, great :) | 13:27 |
| coderus | okay. can you explain more about -r option. | 13:29 |
| coderus | it will turn device in developer mode like cable connected? | 13:29 |
| coderus | so i can use static ip and get access to device in rescue mode? | 13:29 |
| coderus | or dhcp will be available in this mode? | 13:30 |
| phdeswer | coderus: -r will make usb_moded always set developer mode, regardless what is set in the configuration or if there is a devicelock active or not. | 13:32 |
| phdeswer | afaik dhcp server might be active now already on devices out there. Just not sure if the actual corrected developer mode config file got shipped already or not. | 13:33 |
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| phdeswer | Anyway you can configure it any way you want, docs and code for usb_moded are here:https://github.com/nemomobile/usb-moded/blob/master/docs/usb_moded-doc.txt | 13:34 |
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| coderus | so, it just force devmode? if i have devmode in usb settings, it doesnt make change? | 13:34 |
| phdeswer | coderus: that will not work if the UI does not come up. No UI, no devicelock, => usb is locked down as no devicelock could mean lots of things | 13:35 |
| phdeswer | So -r bypasses the security also | 13:35 |
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| coderus | thanks, just one thing left. using -r option causing any problems? | 13:36 |
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| phdeswer | coderus: nope, except that it will always be developer mode, regardless what your USB settings may say. | 13:38 |
| coderus | okay, its good for me. i'm not using any other usb modes :) | 13:38 |
| coderus | thank you :) | 13:39 |
| Turski | marxistvegan: you could just use bluetooth sync... | 13:40 |
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| phdeswer | coderus: you might want to ;) I posted a trick to get usb mass storage in TJC last week. And the repo has config files for getting USB tethering to work. | 13:41 |
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| coderus | phdeswer: mass storage is not interesting for me, i'm using sftp and ftp | 13:54 |
| coderus | and i have my own iptables script for forwarding interfaces | 13:54 |
| marxistvegan | Turski: coderus I am opting for setting up syncevolution since i have my contacts in owncloud | 13:54 |
| coderus | ./ip_forward rndis0 rmnet0 and i'm in web :) | 13:55 |
| marxistvegan | just trying to figure webdav on syncevolition | 13:55 |
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| fk_lx_ | http://jollamoralstandards.blogspot.com/ | 14:53 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.7.1 hotfix released | 14:55 |
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| tachikoma | great - i now learned that the mail server only supports 'login' as auth method and not 'plain' | 15:01 |
| tachikoma | after setting this with ag-tool i now get authentication failed, looking at the base64 encoded password that is sent and decoding it i see that the mail client now sends my username as username and also the username as password :( | 15:02 |
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| tachikoma | how can i set the password for the smtp account using the command line? | 15:03 |
| tachikoma | as setting it in the gui also resets the authentication method to 'plain' which then fails | 15:03 |
| SK_work | VDVsx ? ^^ | 15:04 |
| chem|st | tachikoma: bugreported? | 15:06 |
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| tachikoma | chem|st: I'm still in the middle of trying to find out what is the problem | 15:09 |
| tachikoma | what does make me wonder is this line in the messaging logs: | 15:10 |
| tachikoma | "SSO identity is not found for account id: 10 , using password from accounts configuration" | 15:10 |
| tachikoma | and i have not much time left today :( | 15:11 |
| tachikoma | great | 15:14 |
| tachikoma | deleted the account, recreated it - now the mail app insist on me not yet having created an account | 15:14 |
| tachikoma | it has id of 11 now, could it be that the mail app does not work with ids larger than 10? | 15:15 |
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| marxistvegan | tachikoma: is this on the N9 i have not tried the email client as of yet | 15:17 |
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| tachikoma | no, on my jolla phone | 15:17 |
| marxistvegan | tachikoma: ahh what version of sailfish is that running? | 15:17 |
| tachikoma | latest, the mms hotfix | 15:18 |
| marxistvegan | tachikoma: do you have a version number on that? | 15:18 |
| tachikoma | can i see the version somehow from the commandline? | 15:18 |
| * marxistvegan is new to sailfish | 15:18 | |
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| tachikoma | i only have ssh access right now | 15:18 |
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| tachikoma | oh, and it's rebooting atm | 15:19 |
| marxistvegan | tachikoma: I am logging into mine via ssh to see | 15:19 |
| marxistvegan | tachikoma: I am updating my computer with updates to my browser so I cannot search for how to find it from command line yet | 15:21 |
| stephg | marxistvegan: you're looking for your mail client version? | 15:21 |
| stephg | and you're on an n9 with 1.0.2.5? (the mail client compatible with that is ooooooold) | 15:22 |
| stephg | tachikoma: I doubt there's a limit of < 9 accounts | 15:22 |
| tachikoma | ok, deleted account once more and recreated, not the mailer recognizes it | 15:22 |
| tachikoma | must be some glitch | 15:22 |
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| tachikoma | anyway, now how do i correctly change the authentication method from 'PLAIN' to 'LOGIN' ... | 15:23 |
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| marxistvegan | stephg: no, was wondering the version of sailfish that tachikoma is running...to know how far off my n9 is | 15:23 |
| stephg | oh if it's uptodate he's running 1.0.5.19 | 15:23 |
| stephg | you're on update 2, everything else public so far is u5 | 15:23 |
| tachikoma | stephg: yes, 1.0.5.19 i have | 15:24 |
| marxistvegan | stephg: where can I actually find the development work on the n9 version, I know vgrade has it packaged just not sure where i can jump in to help advance it | 15:24 |
| tachikoma | i tried now to set the authentication method to LOGIN with this command: | 15:26 |
| tachikoma | ag-tool update-service 12 email int:smtp/authentication=1 | 15:26 |
| * marxistvegan is psyched that syncevolution works | 15:26 | |
| tachikoma | which seems to actually swithch to LOGIN, but now fails with an authentication error | 15:26 |
| tachikoma | is there already a mutt package for sailfishos somewhere? | 15:27 |
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| tachikoma | what is the difference between auth/method and auth/mechanism ... | 15:32 |
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| tachikoma | ah, also great that switching that using ag-tool seems not to actually switch anything, the log show still auth method plain being used | 15:37 |
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| stephg | tachikoma: the methods for login are all probably in one of the sqlite databases | 15:39 |
| stephg | may be worth a poke round that to see if you can understand that and change it appropriately | 15:39 |
| stephg | ^^ also potentially a recipe for disaster | 15:39 |
| stephg | so be careful :) | 15:39 |
| tachikoma | i don;t think i want to :( | 15:39 |
| tachikoma | i just can't sned mails anymore when not in the office (no more computer at home) | 15:40 |
| tachikoma | fine with me i guess | 15:40 |
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| tachikoma | rebooting the phone might help, still trying that | 15:40 |
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| tachikoma | f**k me | 15:43 |
| tachikoma | the changes are really only there after a reboot | 15:43 |
| stephg | so there are two components to the mail client | 15:43 |
| tachikoma | that explains why i can test arbitrary settings without any difference on the error side | 15:43 |
| stephg | the client itself and the thing that does the connecting for you | 15:43 |
| stephg | messageserver5 iirc | 15:43 |
| stephg | not sure if ag-tools changes are picked up by that without killing it | 15:44 |
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| coderus | oh, i'm stuck with exif things again... | 15:54 |
| coderus | QExifImageHeader started broking images. wtf? | 15:55 |
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| SK_work | cybette: ping ! | 16:53 |
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| SK_work | meeting is tomorrow ! | 16:53 |
| SK_work | don't forget ! | 16:53 |
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| SK_work | (hint hint: please send an email in dev ml) | 16:54 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, why SDK makes a working copy of spec file, like myfunkyapp.spec.4798 ? sometimes it is left behind in rpm folder, need to manually delete it | 17:10 |
| VDVsx | tachikoma, you can't see password via command line, only way is using SSO apis | 17:16 |
| VDVsx | set* | 17:16 |
| kaltsi | kimmoli: it does it because it needs to modify it.. I haven't managed to leave it behind yet, but apparently it sometimes happens? | 17:19 |
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| VDVsx | tachikoma, and it does support plain auth for smtp, unless you have first release of sailfishOS :D | 17:22 |
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| kaltsi | kimmoli: if you can find a pattern when it is left behind, it would be nice to know.. in next sdk it's going to make more of those working copies because of the CRLF thing | 17:23 |
| coderus | more copies!!! :D sorry :D | 17:24 |
| kaltsi | moar | 17:24 |
| stephg | VDVsx: tachikoma is on an n9 sadly with 1.0.2.x :( | 17:29 |
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| VDVsx | stephg, ah ok, I don't remember anymore what's there, but changing those settings from command line won't work anyway, since passwords and usernames are saved in separated db | 17:31 |
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| kimmoli | i think i did stop vm while doing build... then it was left there (accidental clikclcickc) | 17:39 |
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| kaltsi | kimmoli: ok that can cause it if it's stopped at the right time | 17:40 |
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| kaltsi | create tmpfile; rpmbuild; rm -f tmpfile | 17:40 |
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| kimmoli | oh, i made my first bilingual translated (en/fi) app... i celebrate with a beer | 18:05 |
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| stephg | I want a beer | 18:10 |
| stephg | but I has wine! so is ok! | 18:10 |
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| kimmoli | 2 tasks to go; 1) draw a icon, 2) harbourize | 18:14 |
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| kimmoli | hmm, nice, validator updates itself automagically; Retrieving package sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator-1.14-10.18.1.jolla.noarch | 18:16 |
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| kaltsi | that's what the 'enabled' toggle button on that page does | 18:18 |
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| kaltsi | you can toggle it to disabled if you don't want it to check (in case of no network or something) | 18:20 |
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| kimmoli | äh, now i get just Internal server error on that page | 18:26 |
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| * stephg ponders what 'Ten characters' could me | 18:27 | |
| stephg | *an | 18:27 |
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| kaltsi | kimmoli: haha.. it probably ran out of memory :P | 18:30 |
| kaltsi | stephg: it means that a post can't be less than ten characters long... | 18:30 |
| stephg | hehe kaltsi it was in this context: https://together.jolla.com/question/43773/hadk-release-and-info/ | 18:31 |
| kaltsi | yes so was my response :) | 18:31 |
| stephg | hehe | 18:31 |
| kaltsi | "Soon." is 5 chars.. need some padding | 18:31 |
| stephg | aaaaaaaaaaah | 18:31 |
| stephg | obviously I try and give hugely verbose messages on TJC so didn't know that ;0 | 18:32 |
| stephg | s/0/)/ | 18:32 |
| kaltsi | kimmoli: if you want it back, restart the mersdk VM | 18:33 |
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| kimmoli | yep i did that already :) | 18:38 |
| kimmoli | tried to open that page/tab while building | 18:38 |
| kaltsi | by default the mersdk only has 512 MB of memory.. if you want to and your host has plenty of mem, you could increase it from virtualbox settings | 18:38 |
| Morpog_PC__ | and add some cpu cores to it | 18:39 |
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| kimmoli | hm... i could add few cores to this pc | 18:40 |
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| kaltsi | download a few more | 18:44 |
| kimmoli | vm didn't allow to increase number of processors | 18:45 |
| kaltsi | how many does your host have? | 18:45 |
| Morpog_PC__ | you need to stop it first | 18:45 |
| kimmoli | it was powered off | 18:45 |
| * kimmoli has only 2 | 18:45 | |
| kimmoli | but inc mem to 1024M | 18:46 |
| kimmoli | could it be possible to make harbour-validator to remember or use current project folder? it goes to \sailfishos\bin everytime | 18:47 |
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| kaltsi | on some machines it does remember | 18:47 |
| kaltsi | you could also try it with firefox (not chrome) .. just go to 127.0.0.1:8080, in case that works better | 18:48 |
| kimmoli | ok, that remebers at least when i keep tab open | 18:49 |
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| kimmoli | tnx for tip | 18:50 |
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| kaltsi | if someone knows how to make a webpage with <input type='file'> to open a specific directory, I could try to put it in there | 18:50 |
| kaltsi | I think there are some security reasons for it being difficult to do with pure html at least | 18:50 |
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| kaltsi | so that you couldn't be fooled to open/submit some other file than what you're trying to submit | 18:51 |
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| kimmoli | oo Validation succeeded: | 19:04 |
| kaltsi | \o/ | 19:06 |
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| kimmoli | does phone have some sort of icon cache..? it takes some time or uninstall/install cycles before it is updated | 19:29 |
| kimmoli | hmm, can i change keuboard comma to dot when using inputMethodHints: Qt.ImhDigitsOnly ? | 19:34 |
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| kimmoli | it uses now comma, and it is no good for js | 19:35 |
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| kimmoli | nah i just use replace(",", ".") | 19:37 |
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| Turski | kimmoli: that sounds like a proper solution since it's probably locale dependent whether it's comma or dot in the keyboard | 20:00 |
| coderus | kimmoli: what you using for? | 20:01 |
| coderus | in my project i replaced input field with slider :) | 20:01 |
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| Turski | kimmoli: and then there's this http://www.w3schools.com/jsref/jsref_parsefloat.asp | 20:06 |
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| kimmoli | just when entering some numeric values, i want to use them for calculations, and stupid comma kills everything | 20:07 |
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| kimmoli | that replace , . did do the job. i store those as TEXT in sqlite db, and i sanitize them before storing | 20:08 |
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| kimmoli | but it went to harbour QA already... | 20:13 |
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| stephg | so a question for the android adaptation folks, kontio was great today holding my hand through getting the vnc server working | 20:57 |
| stephg | there're a bunch of conditionals that could be put into the mervncserver code that'd support as-is the n4 (other broken things notwithstanding) | 20:58 |
| Stskeeps | take a look at the hwcomposer qpa code in github.com/mer-hybris perhaps | 20:59 |
| stephg | but is it worth it? i.e. will rmnet0 as is on a jolla eventually work it's way through to the n4 or i9305 etc? | 20:59 |
| stephg | Stskeeps: that's a bigger problem (that's probably beyond me!) | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | rndis0, you mean | 21:00 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 21:00 |
| stephg | sorry, yes | 21:00 |
| stephg | that's kinda what I'm asking, should they all eventually be convergent or not I suppose | 21:00 |
| stephg | vnc would be a special case right now (no auth, therefore local only) | 21:01 |
| stephg | or is it up to the individual HA | 21:02 |
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| ziggy42 | I'm not sure how to add a language to my application. I run lupdate, than I add a myapp.mylen.ts file, the I copy in this file myapp.ts file and add the translations. Then lrelease that generate .qm file. Is it right? There's a way to change the language of the emulator? I'd like to add italian support but at the moment I don't have a real device to try the translations | 23:34 |
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| ziggy42 | Are you all sleeping? :D | 23:43 |
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| marxistvegan | ziggy42: i think so | 23:50 |
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| ziggy42 | marxistvegan: for which question :D | 23:53 |
| kaltsi | ziggy42: if you take a look at the default template application, it has an example of german translation | 23:54 |
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| kaltsi | adding a new language is as easy as adding it to the .pro file TRANSLATIONS line.. build it once and it will generate the ts file for you where you can fill in the translations | 23:54 |
| kaltsi | that's available if you use libsailfishapp, if not.. then you can take a look at how libsailfishapp does it | 23:56 |
| kaltsi | its sources are here https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp | 23:57 |
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| kaltsi | but now I go to sleep.. l8r | 23:58 |
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| ziggy42 | Ok thanks | 23:59 |
| ziggy42 | :) | 23:59 |
| ziggy42 | good night! | 23:59 |
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