Wednesday, 2014-05-14

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m4g0ggood night01:22
m4g0gare somebody here>01:22
m4g0g?01:22
keithzgyes, probably01:24
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m4g0glet's speak about pages limit01:25
m4g0gbecause I always have problem with this and I don't know how to solve it01:25
m4g0gNow I have new problem: profilepage->groups->searchgroup->groupdetail->groupfolders->grouptopic - 6 pages and I don't know what I should replace or any good solvation.01:26
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coderusm4g0g: what is your pages represent?05:15
coderuswhat kind of data?05:15
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m4g0gcoderus: hi.07:35
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m4g0ggroups page - listview, searchgroups - searchfield and listview, group detail - complex item, group folders - list view, group topics - listview, tòpic content - complex item07:37
Nicd-why isn't groups page and searchgroups the same page?07:42
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m4g0g_Nicd-: how i should switch between found groups and user groups?07:56
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Nicd-m4g0g_: is 'groups page' for the user's own groups and 'searchgroups' for all groups?07:57
m4g0g_yes if i understand you right07:58
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Nicd-then I think searchgroups should replace the first page, not be under it08:00
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locusfhmm app stuck in qa for 5 days now, are the testers on vacation now :)?08:15
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walokralocusf: my app was approved yday in ~24h08:27
locusfwalokra: yup08:28
dr_gogeta86good morning08:28
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Nc_Uhm, are there any "better" colorpickers (3rd party?) available for Sailfish, beyond the built-in one?11:08
Nicd-does QTcpSocket's read(char* data, qint64 bytes) block if the specified amount of bytes isn't available?11:15
fluxI would expect it not to11:15
fluxbut maybe I'm expecting wrong without reading the documentation :)11:15
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Nicd-the documentation doesn't say11:16
Nicd-I would like it to block11:16
fluxwaitForReadyRead + loop?11:17
jpnurmiqt wouldn't freeze your app like that :)11:17
fluxI assume this is being done in a non-gui-thread11:18
fluxat least with waitForReadyRead you can implement timeouts11:18
AcceI think it would be better to use signal-slot system rather than waitForReadyRead11:19
fluxdepends on how hellish state machine you get to write ;-)11:19
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fluxQt should have a CPS-style framework for doing IO now that C++ has lambda functions!11:21
Nicd-it's not a GUI thread. guess I might have to for readyRead() if bytesAvailable() is less than what I want11:22
Nicd-flux: thanks for the lambdas idea :)11:22
fluxyeah, you could write just waitForNBytes(1024, [](QByteBufferOrSomething buf) { .. });11:23
Nicd-of course it's more complicated because class A is calling read(bytes) on class B which has the socket and calls read on that11:25
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vgradealso noticed, https://github.com/mer-hybris/ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator11:53
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vgradesitu: message above11:54
situI see it11:54
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situvgrade: Is there a way to determine which event file is for vibrator through commandline ?11:57
stephghey situ did you get to the bottom of your modem trouble?11:57
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situstephg: Yes, we have modem working now.11:58
stephgcool11:59
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vgradesitu looking at wiki table vibra is not hooked up yet12:14
situbut Stskeeps said it works on mako12:14
vgradeon N412:14
Stskeeps(might be wrong)12:14
vgradehaptics is green vibra yellow12:15
situvgrade: Also these ngfd plugins seems very recent, we don't have https://github.com/mer-hybris/ngfd-plugin-pulse/tree/master/src still pulse is working for us.12:16
vgradesitu: only test_vibrator is working12:16
situok12:16
vgrademaybe sledges can give some pointers?12:17
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Nicd-hmm, if I capture 'this' in a lambda, what access level do I have for the object? (i.e. can I call private/protected through the pointer?)12:21
SK_workNicd-: wonder what you are trying to do12:22
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Nicd-SK_work: handling the situation where the socket doesn't contain the amount of bytes I want12:52
Nicd-so I need to wait for more bytes and read them until I have enough and then do what I originally wanted12:52
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fluxnicd-, I believe you have the access the scope before the lambda had12:55
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fluxat least if they make any sense :)12:55
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SK_workNicd-: qtcpsocket or not related to Qt at all ?12:58
SK_workNicd-: better use signals with Qt12:58
SK_workI mean, hard coded methods12:58
Nicd-I am using signals12:58
SK_workNicd-: geez, I mean, not labmdas but slots12:59
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fluxbetter? they're such a pain.12:59
SK_workflux: IMO, it's just clearer13:01
* SK_work is not a fan of lambdas13:01
fluxthe global state variables you may end up having are so much more clear?13:01
flux(well, not global but object attributes)13:01
SK_workflux: with slots ?13:01
Yanielwhat's wrong with lambdas?13:02
SK_workflux: true13:02
SK_workwriting functions in functions sounds strange13:02
Yanielmeh13:02
SK_workflux, Nicd- is it possible to "wait" in lambdas ?13:02
Nicd-I just figured out a way to skip lambdas and use one additional object attribute13:02
SK_work(as, non blocking states ?)13:02
SK_workjust wondering13:02
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Yanielthey just give you endless opportunities for abuse :D13:03
fluxsk_work, well, is it possible to "wait" in regular qt code? no.13:03
Nicd-SK_work: yes like normally13:03
Nicd-so the whole thread will stall13:03
fluxsk_work, but you can save the lambda to a variable with some local data, and pull it back later13:03
SK_workNicd-: yeah, so not good :(13:03
SK_workflux: hum13:03
Nicd-SK_work: a lambda is not its own thread13:03
SK_workinteresting13:03
SK_workNicd-: indeed, I know13:03
fluxwith small work it can put the related code into one function without creating structs and slots for carrying the state13:03
Nicd-the problem I ran into with lambdas was that #include <functional> wasn't found :P13:04
Nicd-so I'll skip them for now13:04
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flux-std=c++11?13:09
fluxor was it that jolla's compiler was a bit old..13:10
Nicd-I have c++11 mode on13:10
fluxright13:10
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Nicd-I love that the compiler is polite :) "sorry, unimplemented: non-static data member initializers"13:25
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Nicd-hmm, I can read a char array from a QDataStream with dataStream >> charArray;, but how do I reserve space for the array if I don't know how long it will be?13:50
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Nicd-or do I have to just read byte per byte in that case?13:52
fluxcode now, optimize later :)13:52
Nicd-I'm not optimizing :P13:52
Nicd-it's a question of it working or not13:52
fluxwhat kind of array is it?13:53
Nicd-char array13:53
fluxmaybe you want to consider some variable length structures?13:53
Nicd-ahhh, I failed to read the function definition properly13:53
Nicd-"Space for the string is allocated using new [] -- the caller must destroy it with delete []."13:54
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javispedroNicd-, why not QByteArray?14:07
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Nicd-javispedro: because QDataStream will allow me to stream >> integer and that sort14:09
javispedroNicd-, QDataStream >> QByteArray I mean14:10
javispedroNicd-, it will basically serialize to "size of the array" + "array values"14:10
Nicd-javispedro: because I'm reading a string off the beginning of the stream14:13
sledgessitu: vgrade: you'll only need the non-pulse ngfd plugin14:20
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Nc_hmm.. stopped my app on phone, devices kept receiving commands on the network. Guess I need to figure out proper threading14:37
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SK_workNc_: thought about calling abort for network operations ?14:52
Nc_No ....14:54
Nc_Is python-side thread, and I need to write in better thread-handling, incl culling14:55
Nc_was just mostly impressed that stopping the app via the UI didn't extend to stopping activities further down14:56
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situsledges: Installing ngfd-plugin-droid-vibrator worked thanks !16:08
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coderus2G/3G data stopped working for me :(17:06
SK_workcoderus: reboot ?17:07
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coderusreboot doesnt help17:19
coderusi'll try to grab logs, if exists17:19
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coderusplease cleck my logs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7463827/17:27
coderuscant use cellular 2G/3G data with Jolla17:27
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sledgessitu: \o/17:34
situsledges, vgrade: Sensors next17:34
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sledgessitu: race condition on boot with mako17:38
sledgeswith late_start spawning sensors.qcom at wrong time17:38
sledgeshope all good with hammerhead17:39
situhmm will check that.17:39
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sledgesdo test_sensors first after sensors.qcom os launched17:39
sledges*is17:39
sledgesif you spawn from cmdline, daemonise them (-D iirc)17:40
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sledgesif sane, you'll need hybris sensorfw plugin, and voila ;)17:41
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situsledges: test_sensors crashes, here is strace of it http://pastie.org/917575517:49
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sledgessensors.qcom running as root daemonised?17:53
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sledgescheck late-start .service on mako and enable all late_start services to launch (fw might be needed and helpers)17:55
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situI see sensors.qcom running :17:59
situ9999       685   615  0 22:59 ?        00:00:00 /system/bin/sensors.qcom17:59
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sledgeson boot?17:59
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situRight18:00
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sledgesneeds more digging , will try to help you more later18:03
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sledgessome unknown ioctl/capsseen triaged in strace output18:04
sledges*caps seen18:04
situok18:05
sledgesbut that might be non critical. sig 11 can be caused by something else18:05
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situIt's quite annoying that strace does not catch all the system calls.18:06
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sledgesanother thread?18:07
Stskeeps-fF18:08
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situhttp://pastie.org/917580418:09
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* sledges shrugs18:13
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sledgesgdb ;)18:13
situgdb always reports "stack is corrupted" message while showing backtrace.18:15
situI mean stack may be corrupted.18:16
situhttp://pastie.org/917582918:16
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situThe addresses shown in stacktrace point to /usr/libexec/droid-hybris/system/lib/libc.so18:18
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sledgesstep throgh code?18:22
sledgesthrough18:22
situI have tried that before with other test program but is of little help. I am pretty sure code crashes at this line :18:23
situ    hw_get_module(SENSORS_HARDWARE_MODULE_ID, (const hw_module_t**) &hwmod);18:24
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situYep, it crashes at the same line.18:24
situI can't step inside that function.18:24
* sledges nods18:25
sledgeshow did you solve it before? ;P18:25
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situI look at calls that execute before crash, so in our case it's this one which is failing :18:27
situmadvise(0xb6f7b000, 4096, MADV_MERGEABLE) = -1 EINVAL (Invalid argument)18:27
situbut I need to check what it's trying to do here.18:27
* sledges nods18:28
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Stskeepsignore madvise18:38
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situStskeeps: I am wondering if I am missing some package.18:41
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coderusQproximitySensor returning true every first call. even if its wrong value18:58
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Nc_Looking at reacting to phone-events (e.g. SMSes/other messages, calls etc), and finding documentation and examples pointing to ofono - are there any official documentation enumerating events etc for that?19:10
Stskeepswell, ofono is ofono..19:10
Nc_:)19:11
Stskeepshttp://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/ofono/ofono.git19:11
Stskeepsmight be better to use telepathy and telepathy-ring however19:11
Nc_uki ...19:12
Nc_and yeah - I was looking at git.kernel.org earlier - was thinking there had to be better documentation elsewhere XD19:13
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coderusStskeeps: telepathy lib or dbus?19:16
Stskeeps.. i forget :P19:16
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cvp_is it possible to list mp3/music folder in galery app?19:18
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Nc_hmm... Guess I'll need to dig further into Telepathy/telepathy-ring, but initial impression is that is seems complex, if just for the purpose of getting notifications on new messages and incoming calls :/19:29
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situStskeeps: It would be very helpful if we could pickup this path from LD_LIBRARY_PATH https://github.com/mer-hybris/libhybris/blob/master/libhybris/hybris/hardware/hardware.c#L3419:54
situfor debugging purpose19:56
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coderuscvp_: why?20:49
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cvp_coderus: because the galary app can send file over bluetooth. maybe it will work if the mp3 are listet on the app20:56
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Venemow00t: ping20:59
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cvp_coderus: think this way is better than to rename a mp3 file to jpg to send over bluetooth :p21:06
Venemopvuorela: ping21:07
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coderuscvp_: better is ask to add filemanagers developers to add sharing option. its very esdy to implement, but i'm not sure if it allowed for harbour at moment.21:19
coderusprobably not21:19
coderusbut you always can fool harbour if want21:20
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nh1402how's it going?21:23
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cvp_coderus: yeah.... or waiting for the updates :p21:27
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nh1402was just wondering if I can program in Java for the Sailfish OS, I have a messaging app in mind, and found that Codename One always me to just do that, for Android and iOS, so was going to try that out21:37
nh1402I'm sure QT supports java, was wondering about Sailfish specifically21:38
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nh1402I mean, I can program in C++ that's not really a problem, Its just having the same backend would save time for updates and that kind of stuff.21:39
Yanielwell the android compatibility layer is there...21:42
Yanielbut why would you (or anyone for that matter) want to use java21:42
nh1402thats the first programming language i was taught, and the one i'm most comfortable one with21:43
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Yanielfair enough21:44
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nh1402I didn't want to rely on the android compatibility layer, as the HADK may not support it, and also might add some smart cover features, depending on how far smartcovers allow you to go21:44
Yanielif you want access to the TOH then I'd go for C/C++ without asking21:45
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nh1402first taught*, I have covered C#, C++, Scala since then21:45
Yanielmaybe python if I knew there was a nice library for that21:45
nh1402maybe I got the feature wrong, if smart covers == TOH, then what are the tiles on the main screen called21:46
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Yanielah you mean those21:47
Yanielthey are just called app covers FWIW21:48
nh1402App Covers, aah right, I knew the word covers was used in some form21:48
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nh1402what are the limitations for app covers?, could you scroll through contacts, and select the contact to send messages21:51
Yanielyou can't21:52
Yanielbut you can for example swipe left to go to the contacts screen or swipe right to go to the latest discussion for example21:52
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nh1402is it just left and right, or can you also swipe up and down21:53
Yanieljust left and right21:54
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nh1402I had ideas for the app covers, but its been a while, and can't remember them, I'll re-watch a video of the Sailfish OS in action, and see if that jogs my memory21:57
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Yanielit is sort of like a status display with two buttons22:00
Yanieljust that the buttons are implemented as gestures22:00
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