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| artemma | Interestingly QSettings logSettings("/usr/share/harbour-log4qtdemo/log4qt.conf"); tries accessing "/home/nemo/.config/usr/share/harbour-log4qtdemo/log4qt.conf.conf" | 00:15 |
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| artemma | can't I load QSettings from whichever file? | 00:15 |
| artemma | ah.. setPath | 00:18 |
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| kempe | i submitted a app to harbur and got some error feedback back, but lastly they said "don't forget to use the SDK possibility to check your rpm before submitting." what is that i can not find anything that would relate to that | 07:03 |
| stephg | kempe it's available in newer versions of the sdk | 07:05 |
| stephg | just looking... | 07:05 |
| stephg | open your project like normal, and once the sdk vm is running go to the SailfishOS view in the middle of the left-hand pane | 07:08 |
| kempe | stephg, hm ok it was not that long ago i installed it, and i got no updates when seraching for updates | 07:08 |
| kempe | ok ill try | 07:08 |
| stephg | if you're uptodate, you'll have a "Harbour Tools" section | 07:08 |
| stephg | and it's there | 07:08 |
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| kempe | of course now the vom refuses to start. but I beleve you :P so thank you | 07:15 |
| kempe | vm* | 07:15 |
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| stephg | the vm may have started, occasionally the ssh connection fails to it so the sdk thinks it's down when it's not | 07:18 |
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| stephg | (is my experience) | 07:18 |
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| stephg | oh and if the sdk is uptodate, in that same SailfishOS 'tab' do updates of the sdk vm too, it appeared there first and there have been updates since | 07:22 |
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| carepack | totally agree with the early adopters. A new experience is waiting for all bored android user ;) | 08:26 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 08:28 |
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| carepack | checking my mail account so frequently.... | 08:28 |
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| tbr | soon™ | 08:29 |
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| carepack | i know.... will wait. but it's hard... | 08:30 |
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| smokex | thats what I said to my wife | 08:45 |
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| carepack | ;) lol. | 08:55 |
| carepack | and she's screaming | 08:56 |
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| coderus | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-March/003760.html < made my day! | 09:17 |
| Stskeeps | not randolph.. | 09:18 |
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| flora-- | hi, I have one jolla mobile, and I want to run command to test camera, what should I do? | 09:24 |
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| coderus | flora--: csd or *#*#310#*#* in phone dialer | 09:31 |
| * jussi giggles at smokex | 09:35 | |
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| flora-- | coderus, thanks a lot | 09:39 |
| flora-- | coderus, I enter jolla mobile, and find some gst-plugins, such as droidcamsrc, I want to run gst-launch to test camera, what should I do? | 09:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello ! | 10:40 |
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| Stskeeps | hello hello Sfiet_Konstantin | 10:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (late) morning Stskeeps | 10:42 |
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| kimmoli | Looking for some service (pref in Finland) to send SMS with text as sender id instead of number. Low cost or free prefered (maybe some information request service) Any suggestions? | 10:44 |
| kimmoli | ( Found one to send for free, but receiving the message costs 5€ ) | 10:45 |
| pyksy | kimmoli: We use Labyrintti. Not free though | 10:45 |
| pyksy | kimmoli: and I no idea about the pricing either :-) | 10:45 |
| pyksy | I have* | 10:46 |
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| kimmoli | i need to use it for debugging ... | 10:47 |
| pyksy | I see | 10:48 |
| kimmoli | just few messages, but i wouldn't like to pay 2€ for each ... my backup-plan is to order something from Verkkokauppa.com and cancel it (and they send confirmation sms) :) | 10:48 |
| pyksy | hahah | 10:49 |
| pyksy | i can send you a few | 10:49 |
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| kimmoli | pyksy: query says "don't give phonenumber to this guy" ... :) | 10:57 |
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| zutto | kimmoli: cant you just buy 5€ prepaid account? | 11:00 |
| pyksy | kimmoli: hehehe | 11:01 |
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| zutto | actually | 11:03 |
| zutto | you can just send text messages to yourself, just modify the headers to show different number | 11:03 |
| pyksy | zutto: the point is to have text as the sender, not a phone number | 11:03 |
| zutto | well you can modify the headers to suit that requirement too | 11:03 |
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| pyksy | ...if i understood the problem correctly | 11:03 |
| zutto | you may have to do some asterisk trickery tho | 11:04 |
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| kimmoli | tnx pyksy - issue was completely different but solved now. | 11:21 |
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| pyksy | kimmoli: you're welcome | 11:23 |
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| cos- | any news about bt keyboard support? on dec 2013 it was "on the list" | 12:04 |
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| cos- | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Black-Ultra-thin-Slide-out-Wireless-Bluetooth-3-0-Backlight-Keyboard-Sliding-Standing-with-Hard-Shell/1051284606.html | 12:05 |
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| Jonni | cos-: its still in the list :) | 12:14 |
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| ismaro3 | hi! | 12:37 |
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| ismaro3 | I have experience with Linux systems, shell scripting ,system administration, and developed some apps for Android as a hobbie. | 12:43 |
| ismaro3 | sorry this was a pm | 12:44 |
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| Acce | cos-: atleast, pressing bt kb keys now prevents sleeping the screen as far as I have observed | 13:08 |
| Acce | but you have to connect with hidd | 13:08 |
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| cos- | what is actually missing from bt kb support? binding ui & silica integration? | 13:09 |
| cos- | i suppose everything below it is quite standard stuff which should already work | 13:10 |
| Acce | mhmm, it seems to me like that, didn't check if the fn and shift keys still insert ? marks in sailfish input fields | 13:11 |
| Acce | in fingerterm it works | 13:11 |
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| tbr | someone on twitter recently claimed that bt kbd was working for them on 1.0.4.20 | 13:15 |
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| cos- | could someone confirm? i don't even own a bt kbd | 13:23 |
| Acce | I can confirm when I get home | 13:24 |
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| tbr | my SU-8W is at home too, so you'll have to wait 2h | 13:26 |
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| avivbyo | Don't wanna be an A-hole but heard sailfish for N4 is releasing "Early this week" is it true? | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | not being an asshole ;) | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | working hard on it | 14:10 |
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| Stskeeps | doing a lot of tests on release candidates atm | 14:12 |
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| avivbyo | okay :D i am reaaaally excited to check it out finally | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, can understand | 14:17 |
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| * Stskeeps is looking forward to it going out, too | 14:18 | |
| Nicd- | this is almost as exciting as waiting for the first Jollas | 14:19 |
| Nicd- | I feel you really have something great here | 14:19 |
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| jussi | Nicd-: I think you are right, its almost as exciting as the first Jolla's. it allows Sailfish to hit a much wider audience - it is very cool. | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | fun fact: sailfish qt5 variant ran first on nexus 4 | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:28 |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: wow, thats cool :D | 14:28 |
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| TheBootroo_work | Stskeeps: is someone working on stabilizing the LTE on the Jolla phone so that it can finally be enabled ? | 14:30 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: and now you need to tell the 'why' :D | 14:30 |
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| Stskeeps | TheBootroo_work: not my table | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | w00t: can i just link to arnold crushing things with a tank | 14:30 |
| w00t | Stskeeps: always | 14:31 |
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| avivbyo | Umm will the alien-dalvik will be "Kitkat" someday? | 14:32 |
| Stskeeps | i don't know, at the moment it's 4.1.2 based | 14:32 |
| starkers | hey guys, I've bought a spare phone so I can dedicate my nexus 4 to sailfish, can anyone advise on sledges progress? | 14:33 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: soon(tm) | 14:33 |
| jussi | :D | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | starkers: you sign up with him to become an early adopter, send your e-mail, name, devices and why | 14:33 |
| Stskeeps | in a private message to him | 14:33 |
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| starkers | coolio thanks | 14:33 |
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| jussi | hrm, that was meant for starkers... | 14:34 |
| jussi | anywya | 14:34 |
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| avivbyo | Anyone who signed up for Early adopting will get the OS or only few? | 14:35 |
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| Stskeeps | avivbyo: let's see when i get around to writing the e-mail :P | 14:37 |
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| jussi | Stskeeps: did I mention that I stole my SE Xperia pro back so I can try get sailfish on it? itll be awesome if it works, means Ill have a Sailfish OS phone with a keyboard | 14:38 |
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| avivbyo | I think you'll need to work for that | 14:38 |
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| Acce | hmm.. writing with bt kb now | 15:09 |
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| Acce | urrggh, lots of lllllllllag | 15:12 |
| rusty88 | hi, i'm very anxious to use sailfish os.. does anyone know how much it takes to be accepted (or not) as an early adopter? | 15:12 |
| Stskeeps | do you have a pulse.. | 15:12 |
| leinir | well, more to the point, are you animate and capable of passing a turing test? ;) | 15:15 |
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| tbr | also owning one of the two main devices might help | 15:17 |
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| Acce | not vvery pleasant to write since vkbd is always shown, while writing.. and my kb doesn't have pgup and pgdown :/ | 15:18 |
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| kimmoli | Acce: there is "minimalist" vkb for the toh-kbd | 15:34 |
| Acce | kimmoli: thanks, nice to know! | 15:36 |
| Acce | btw, is your design based on the one in TMO? | 15:38 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | ? | 15:38 |
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| kimmoli_sailing | i'm co-working with dirkvl on that | 15:40 |
| Acce | ah, ok | 15:40 |
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| rec0de | hi :) | 15:46 |
| squidd | well hello there | 15:46 |
| rec0de | does someone know how to play looped background music in a native app? | 15:47 |
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| bentz | hi | 16:42 |
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| YoYoZ | Hello everyone. | 17:44 |
| YoYoZ | I've been here a week ago, I think. | 17:44 |
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| YoYoZ | Has anything changed? | 17:44 |
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| YoYoZ | How are you, btw? | 17:44 |
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| jwalck | YoYoZ: are you asking 339 people how they are, at once?:) | 17:46 |
| YoYoZ | jwalck: I would be glad to hear from every one of them c: | 17:46 |
| YoYoZ | jwalck: So, any news? | 17:46 |
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| YoYoZ | jwalck: If it matters, I have hammerhead and would like to try porting. Told it last time :) | 17:49 |
| intekulan | YoYoZ: I just found out I failed on an exam :'( | 17:49 |
| YoYoZ | intekulan: Which one? | 17:49 |
| intekulan | Um, about wave physics and thermodynamics | 17:49 |
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| YoYoZ | intekulan: I don't like that as well. But, everything will be alright, I promise :D | 17:51 |
| squidd | YoYoZ: I'm doing pretty good. Was awful morning at work today when I noticed that for some reason my Jolla had lost 25 percent of battery in 2 hours without not being used. Luckily I was able to recharge it so it didn't end up dying on me! Rebooting the silly little machine fixed the discharge issue for now so thats nice | 17:51 |
| YoYoZ | squidd: Was the android app who has bee doing this? | 17:51 |
| YoYoZ | squidd: been* | 17:51 |
| intekulan | YoYoZ: thank you for those kind words :) | 17:51 |
| YoYoZ | intekulan: No problem, man :D | 17:52 |
| squidd | YoYoZ: No! I think it might have been issue getting connected to 3g when I left my appartments lovely wlan | 17:52 |
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| jwalck | YoYoZ: I'm doing fine:) no news from my side, only running the jolla and with too little time to work with it I'm afraid. what's hammerhead in this context? | 17:53 |
| YoYoZ_ | Sorry about that, I was installing VirtualBox for the sailfish, and it disabled my internet. | 17:53 |
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| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: It's the device that I wish to use sailfish on :D | 17:54 |
| squidd | wow, hammers with sailfish | 17:54 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: I want to do this because all my life i was using gestures, and the it comes | 17:54 |
| squidd | isnt that little bit too fancy | 17:54 |
| jwalck | YoYoZ_: yes but searching for hammerhead on any search engine won't yield that good results for things that can run sailfish:) | 17:54 |
| YoYoZ_ | squidd: That's a little odd, I guess | 17:55 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: What do you mean?O.o | 17:55 |
| jwalck | YoYoZ_: I gathered that it was a device, but do you have a URL or full name for it, rather than just "hammerhead"? | 17:55 |
| squidd | Guessing it might be nexus 5 | 17:55 |
| squidd | Think its codename is hammerhead | 17:55 |
| YoYoZ_ | squidd: My bad | 17:55 |
| YoYoZ_ | YEs, It's NExus 5 | 17:55 |
| jwalck | ah I see.:) | 17:55 |
| squidd | jwalck: now go do your research on mobile devices and then come talk to me! :P | 17:56 |
| YoYoZ_ | Yes, I'm just so used to codenames | 17:56 |
| squidd | wait, you wasnt even talking to me... | 17:56 |
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| jwalck | I haven't cared much for google since even before they launched android so their internal codenames are beyond me:) | 17:56 |
| YoYoZ_ | wat | 17:56 |
| YoYoZ_ | ohoho | 17:56 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: I like nexus'es ecause of hardware. | 17:57 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: It is indeed very good, | 17:57 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: Though there are some problems with it. | 17:57 |
| jwalck | not doubting that they are very fancy:) | 17:57 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: :D | 17:57 |
| YoYoZ_ | jwalck: They would be even fancier with Sailfish :D | 17:57 |
| squidd | imo new phones these days seem to have way too much power in them | 17:58 |
| squidd | for reasons I dont really understand | 17:58 |
| jwalck | squidd: I found the only thing lacking in the n900 was battery life, so I totally agree | 17:58 |
| squidd | jwalck: mine died on me! | 17:58 |
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| YoYoZ_ | You guys wouldn't believe, but I disabled my nexus from running over 1 ghz ever since I got it | 17:59 |
| YoYoZ_ | It lives so long now | 17:59 |
| jwalck | squidd: aww poor thing:( I went through a few of them, swapping parts as they died out. just one still running now | 17:59 |
| YoYoZ_ | And, two cores are off. | 17:59 |
| YoYoZ_ | This brings so much power, you wouldn't imagine. | 17:59 |
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| squidd | and they need to stop adding resolution to the screen! they should start making computer screens cheaper! | 18:00 |
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| YoYoZ_ | squidd: Guys, I agree with you so much, | 18:01 |
| YoYoZ_ | squidd: Though full HD display looks nice. | 18:01 |
| netzvieh | my n4 still lives somewhere. I think. I'll go search for it when the mail arrives | 18:02 |
| jwalck | I'd like decent colour calibration, but the resolution is plenty since long yes | 18:02 |
| gobbe | nexus5 is actually really nice phone | 18:02 |
| YoYoZ_ | Still, I came here for some news :D | 18:03 |
| netzvieh | well the only problem I had with qHD on the jolla is browsing certain websites, but everywhere else I don't miss the 720p n4 display | 18:04 |
| attep | Guys can you help me with my Jolla-PC usb connection? I can use my Jolla as dev device over the wlan but not over the usb connection. Sailfish SDK only tells me the timeout error | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | long story short we're doing release candidates atm :P | 18:04 |
| squidd | YoYoZ_: well, apparently its now comfirmed that MH370 crashed to sea! So it became a submarine! | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | that's old news by internet standard, by now | 18:04 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:04 |
| netzvieh | Stskeeps: RCs want to be releases asap :P | 18:04 |
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| YoYoZ_ | squidd: Ho guys, keeping the secret, huh? | 18:05 |
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| netzvieh | attep: can you ping and ssh it over usb? | 18:05 |
| attep | Nope, I can't | 18:06 |
| * Stskeeps is not happy about what looks like a massive slowdown just after suspend->awake.. | 18:07 | |
| YoYoZ_ | Hm, how may people like me come here to get a link? | 18:07 |
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| Stskeeps | a fair amount | 18:08 |
| Stskeeps | a lot of interest in it | 18:08 |
| attep | netzvieh: so what should I do if I can't ping | 18:09 |
| netzvieh | attep: linux? | 18:10 |
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| attep | Windows | 18:10 |
| netzvieh | attep: https://together.jolla.com/question/1919/howto-connecting-to-jolla-via-ssh-over-usb/ | 18:11 |
| attep | (but I had the same problem with linux) | 18:11 |
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| carepack | great. thx for sharing this information stskeeps. maybe a long niht for me | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | well, i plan on going to sleep in 3 hours :P | 18:21 |
| Stskeeps | nothing coming today | 18:21 |
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| carepack | ok. thx. but good news anyway. the long night will come | 18:22 |
| carepack | ;) | 18:22 |
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| suy | Is there some serial port that I've missed on the phone? (/dev/ttyHSL*, but what for would that be useful?) I don't see why this guy on the mailing list want the qt serial port module. | 19:32 |
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| Raim | suy: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1402982&postcount=11 | 19:36 |
| kimmoli_sailing | define normal user ? | 19:37 |
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| Raim | (it's not my post, to avoid any confusion) | 19:38 |
| Raim | I haven't looked for the serial port. I only know that it must be somewhere from this forum post. | 19:38 |
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| suy | I still find it strange, TBH | 19:42 |
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| Acce | suy: bluetooth serial mode? | 19:47 |
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| m4g0g | hi | 20:11 |
| m4g0g | why ERROR [/usr/share/harbour-linksbag/qml/ShareLinkPage.qml] Import 'Sailfish.TransferEngine 1.0' is not allowed | 20:11 |
| m4g0g | wtf? | 20:11 |
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| Yaniel | ? | 20:15 |
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| Acce | afaik it's not allowed yet because it's not considered stable.. hopefully they will consider some more stuff stable soon | 20:16 |
| m4g0g | soon, soon, soon. Three month ago was soon, 2 was soon, 1 was soon, last week was soon. When this soon will be? | 20:18 |
| Acce | no idea | 20:18 |
| Acce | I'm not working for Jolla | 20:18 |
| suy | m4g0g: https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time | 20:23 |
| suy | more seriously, they are a <100 people company (AFAIK), so what do you expect? They do pretty awesome with their budget. But is not enough if you expect to be an android contender in this timeframe | 20:24 |
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| avivbyo | Anynews? | 20:25 |
| Acce | nope, nothing new under the sun | 20:26 |
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| Almindor | how can I create a dynamic number of silica components? (based on a bound C++ property which happens to be an array) | 23:02 |
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| Almindor | also, is there a "visible" property? | 23:03 |
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| Acce | Almindor: yes, there is a visible property | 23:36 |
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| Acce | you can use your c++ array as a model for a SilicaListView or similar | 23:37 |
| Almindor | can you put a progress bar in a list view? | 23:38 |
| Acce | just make sure that the type of your elements are of proper type that can be converted into qml types | 23:38 |
| Almindor | it's using a QVariantList (has ints in it) | 23:38 |
| Acce | ok, that should work | 23:38 |
| Acce | what do you mean by progress bar _in_ a listview? | 23:38 |
| Acce | while it's loading the items? | 23:39 |
| Almindor | no | 23:39 |
| Almindor | each item needs to be a progress bar | 23:39 |
| Acce | as a delegate? | 23:39 |
| Acce | certainly | 23:39 |
| Acce | are you familiar with the qml model-view principles? | 23:39 |
| Almindor | just starting it all up | 23:39 |
| Acce | ok, here's a short intro to the concept of model-view: http://qmlbook.org/ch06/index.html | 23:40 |
| Acce | basically, you have a data model, and the view takes the model and a "delegate", and generates an item based on your delegate for each data element | 23:41 |
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| Almindor | right, but can this be used with runtime populated properties? | 23:41 |
| Almindor | e.g. the model: 10 -> let's say that's dynamic and bound to my array.length will it work? | 23:41 |
| Acce | yes, as long as you send proper myArrayChanged signal from c++ when the array content changes | 23:42 |
| Almindor | because my array is empty at the start, there's a worker thread that populates it as a Q_PROPERTY | 23:42 |
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| Almindor | yeah | 23:42 |
| Almindor | ok cool | 23:42 |
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| Almindor | oh one more thing, is there a way (built in, not manual I mean) to know that a page was left/closed? There's a few cases where the property-holding class does some processing (after the worker thread notifies it) which is not really necessary if the page it's associated with is not being used | 23:45 |
| Acce | yep, the Page has a "status" property | 23:46 |
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| Acce | you can watch onStatusChanged signal and act on it | 23:46 |
| Almindor | ah good | 23:46 |
| Acce | the statuses are in the silica reference, there are active, deactivated, deactivating and activating | 23:46 |
| Almindor | is there an easy way to make ProgressBar clickable? (onClicked event support) | 23:47 |
| Acce | hmm, yeah, just add a MouseArea inside it | 23:47 |
| Acce | and anchors.fill: parent | 23:47 |
| Almindor | right and fill the parent | 23:47 |
| Acce | yep :) | 23:47 |
| Acce | but you might want to make the whole item clickable instead of just the progress bar | 23:48 |
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| Almindor | nice, model works perfectly with the array | 23:57 |
| Almindor | I guess there's no silica-look component for something like gauges and graphs? I think even QML is very limited with these IIRC | 23:57 |
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