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| Dr_Cain | so, after the update some of my native apps "can't access the internet", they just get stuck in that refresh/loading animation | 02:42 |
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| Dr_Cain | stuff that can access the internet is the web browser, and the android stack | 02:42 |
| special | even after a reboot? | 02:47 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah | 02:49 |
| Dr_Cain | kind of annoying | 02:49 |
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| special | wlan or cellular | 02:51 |
| special | I'd try toggling them off and on via settings, maybe try enabling flight mode, etc and try to get whatever state it's stuck in fixed.. | 02:51 |
| special | weird. | 02:51 |
| Dr_Cain | <special> wlan or cellular <- both | 02:52 |
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| Dr_Cain | wonder if it has anything to do with this https://together.jolla.com/question/6113/lots-of-connection-errors-while-on-wlanwifi/ | 03:12 |
| Dr_Cain | because I get that, but stuff was still working | 03:13 |
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| Dr_Cain | still doesn't seem to be fixed | 03:19 |
| Dr_Cain | granted, this didn't happen on my regular connection. I'm currently on a prepaid simcard | 03:19 |
| Dr_Cain | that apparenly puts you behind a NAT, while my old one didn't | 03:19 |
| Dr_Cain | how does sailfish 'detect the internet connection"? | 03:19 |
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| Dr_Cain | ugh | 03:28 |
| Dr_Cain | this shitty Aztech router/ap isn't helping either | 03:28 |
| Dr_Cain | my own AP running Tomato-usb was working fine | 03:29 |
| Dr_Cain | also I can't connect to the jolla store | 03:36 |
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| lpotter | sailfish uses wpa_supplicant and connman | 04:32 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, well wpa_supplicant has obviously connected | 04:39 |
| Dr_Cain | since I can SSH into the phone, and use the web browser | 04:39 |
| Dr_Cain | so I guess most of the non working apps are asking connman if the internet is up? | 04:40 |
| lpotter | wpa_supplicant s for wifi scanning and such | 04:40 |
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| lpotter | well if you can use the browser than it's just the store being a bit busy with the update | 04:40 |
| Dr_Cain | that doesn't explain why mail, tweetian, quickddit and friends are stuck on their 'updating loop' animation | 04:42 |
| Dr_Cain | also, I can't check for updates from the UI now, nothing happening | 04:43 |
| Dr_Cain | not saying "up to date" | 04:43 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm, still getting that wifi exclamation mark | 04:49 |
| lpotter | that just means something _might_ be wrong. could be no dns/route or just the online check failed | 04:50 |
| lpotter | but it might still work | 04:50 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah, it does work, in some apps | 04:50 |
| Dr_Cain | the regular jolla browser works | 04:50 |
| Dr_Cain | webcat does not work | 04:50 |
| Dr_Cain | just get stuck on the loading animation | 04:50 |
| Dr_Cain | so I'm wondering if they try to access the internet in a different way | 04:51 |
| lpotter | are you using a proxy? | 04:51 |
| Dr_Cain | nope | 04:56 |
| Dr_Cain | wonder if something got botched in the update, I know I forgot to disable the mer-extras repo | 04:56 |
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| Dr_Cain | https://together.jolla.com/question/27467/is-connman-going-to-be-updated-and-when/ | 05:01 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm | 05:01 |
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| Dr_Cain | connman-1.15+git25-1.3.1.armv7hl | 05:12 |
| Dr_Cain | still not updated :/ | 05:13 |
| special | has to be done very carefully | 05:13 |
| Dr_Cain | understandable | 05:14 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, google chat is not connecting while facebook chat is | 05:14 |
| Dr_Cain | odd | 05:14 |
| * special runs away | 05:15 | |
| Dr_Cain | lol | 05:15 |
| special | connectivity isn't my area.. messaging is :p | 05:15 |
| Dr_Cain | ugh, I wonder if I should just do a factory reset | 05:17 |
| Dr_Cain | pita to sideload the playstore and all apps again though | 05:17 |
| lpotter | have you rebooted the phone? | 05:27 |
| Dr_Cain | yes, several times now | 05:29 |
| Dr_Cain | time to start digging in the logs | 05:29 |
| Dr_Cain | ugh, how do I get journalctl to not wrap? | 05:31 |
| Dr_Cain | err.. to wrap | 05:32 |
| Dr_Cain | it breaks some lines now | 05:32 |
| Dr_Cain | so I don't get the full output | 05:32 |
| special | -a | 05:33 |
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| Dr_Cain | ah | 05:33 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, now I can't sign into the google account | 05:36 |
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| Dr_Cain | I just end up on a blank page | 05:36 |
| Dr_Cain | with "accept authentification" at the top, clicking it makes nothign happen | 05:36 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm it might have dropped the internet connection there | 05:38 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm, now I'm unable to sign in to the jolla account either.. | 05:46 |
| Dr_Cain | ugh | 05:46 |
| special | you are cursed | 05:46 |
| Dr_Cain | it's stuck on "Verifying sign-in details" | 05:46 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah | 05:46 |
| Dr_Cain | this update didn't go very well | 05:46 |
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| Dr_Cain | most of europe should be waking up soon | 05:48 |
| Dr_Cain | we'll see if we'll get a shitstorm then, or if I'm the only one :p | 05:48 |
| special | I haven't personally heard of anything like this in testing, at least. | 05:48 |
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| Dr_Cain | that's somewhat reassuring I guess | 05:49 |
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| Dr_Cain | I wonder if this happened because I had mer-repos enabled in pkcon | 05:49 |
| Dr_Cain | err.. mer-extras | 05:49 |
| special | what is mer-extras? | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | Enabled mer-tools mer-tools | 05:50 |
| special | mer-tools is fine | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | mer-tools | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | yeha | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | ah | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | that's the one | 05:50 |
| special | everyone doing development uses mer-tools | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | I just didn't remember the name correctly | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | indeed | 05:50 |
| Dr_Cain | I needed a few things from there | 05:50 |
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| Dr_Cain | well I'm able to sign in on account.jolla.com at least | 05:52 |
| Dr_Cain | but on the phone it's stuck on "signing in" | 05:52 |
| Nokius1 | is there some one else with the effect that sometime the cover are not there ony the app name? | 05:55 |
| special | for what applications? | 05:56 |
| Nokius1 | special: stock apps like gallery settings | 05:56 |
| special | did that start with yesterday's update? | 05:56 |
| Nokius1 | yes | 05:57 |
| Nokius1 | special: or i dont had it before | 05:57 |
| special | when are you seeing it? | 05:57 |
| Nokius1 | didnt saw it happen | 05:57 |
| Nokius1 | Try to rehappen it did hapen now have now idea how it happen but had it more than ones this morning | 06:00 |
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| Nokius1 | if it hapes ones again I hope to tell how it happend :-/ | 06:02 |
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| Dr_Cain | enabling developer mode again takes a while | 06:14 |
| special | it involves store, and store is probably getting hit by people updating again | 06:15 |
| Dr_Cain | oh dear | 06:16 |
| Dr_Cain | I just reset the devlice though | 06:16 |
| Dr_Cain | *device | 06:17 |
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| Dr_Cain | now on 1.0.0.5 | 06:17 |
| Dr_Cain | and no progress bar from those apps you chose in the initial install | 06:17 |
| Dr_Cain | when adding the jolla account | 06:17 |
| special | there are a lot of things missing in 1.0.0.5 ;) | 06:18 |
| Dr_Cain | haha indeed | 06:18 |
| special | not that long ago, but we've come a long way | 06:18 |
| Dr_Cain | very true | 06:20 |
| Dr_Cain | ugh the first update is to 1.0.2.5 | 06:23 |
| Dr_Cain | can't update straight to latest apparently | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | yes, 1.0.2.5 has a much saner store client | 06:23 |
| Dr_Cain | ah | 06:25 |
| Dr_Cain | I guess I should've skipped the initial app download from my initial sign on thne | 06:25 |
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| Dr_Cain | um, now the display turned black | 06:53 |
| * Dr_Cain wonders if it was supposed to do that | 06:53 | |
| ruskie | you didn't read the notes did you? | 06:55 |
| ruskie | Once an OS update notification is received, tap on it and follow the instructions. | 06:56 |
| ruskie | Do __not__ reboot the device while the OS update installation is in progress. The process takes up to 10 minutes. During the update, the device screen might blank out. You may awaken the display by a short press on the power key to monitor the progress. When the upgrade has completed successfully, | 06:56 |
| ruskie | you will see the LED light up red before the device restarts. | 06:56 |
| Dr_Cain | yeah | 06:56 |
| Dr_Cain | I already did it once today | 06:56 |
| Dr_Cain | and stuff broke, if you read the scrollback | 06:56 |
| Dr_Cain | ah right | 06:57 |
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| inffy_ | what is the minimium requirement for the device lock code? | 06:58 |
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| inffy_ | in the changelog it says there is changes done to it on the newest update | 06:58 |
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| Dr_Cain | ugh | 07:21 |
| * Dr_Cain upgrades again | 07:21 | |
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| Dr_Cain | well that's interesting | 07:49 |
| Dr_Cain | even after a reset, the store is still fucked in 1.0.4.20 | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | hmm? | 07:49 |
| Dr_Cain | it did work in 1.0.2.5 | 07:49 |
| Dr_Cain | I can't connect to it | 07:49 |
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| coderus | store working with troubles because of software update | 07:50 |
| Juuba | lot of people connecting to the store now | 07:51 |
| Dr_Cain | getting the "sorry, cannot connect to Store right now" | 07:51 |
| Juuba | i guess | 07:51 |
| coderus | yesterday it cant load applications list | 07:51 |
| Dr_Cain | is it working for you guys? | 07:51 |
| Sailor-2gether | it's working for me | 07:51 |
| coderus | but can search and install apps :) | 07:51 |
| Juuba | dunno, i'm upgrading atm | 07:51 |
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| coderus | sometimes it working, sometimes not | 07:52 |
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| coderus | sometimes it takes time for loaging | 07:52 |
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| Dr_Cain | doesn't work at all for me, no loading or anything | 07:52 |
| Dr_Cain | you just get the cannot connect to store | 07:52 |
| Dr_Cain | like it's not even trying | 07:52 |
| * Dr_Cain is wondering if this shitty wifi AP is to blame | 07:53 | |
| Dr_Cain | in combination with connman | 07:53 |
| Dr_Cain | the web browser does work though | 07:53 |
| coderus | Dr_Cain: heh, then your internet not working? :) | 07:55 |
| Dr_Cain | but it is | 07:55 |
| Dr_Cain | I can ping stuff from the terminal | 07:55 |
| Dr_Cain | and the web browser is working | 07:55 |
| Dr_Cain | but I can't access the store | 07:56 |
| Dr_Cain | I had the same issue before i reset the phone | 07:56 |
| Dr_Cain | but then a bunch of different apps didn't work | 07:56 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm, maybe I should try USB networking | 07:56 |
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| coderus | 13:53 < Dr_Cain> the web browser does work though | 07:57 |
| coderus | what it means? | 07:57 |
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| Dr_Cain | it means that I can access sites through built in web browser | 07:58 |
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| jussi | Dr_Cain: tried on mobile data? | 07:59 |
| coderus | ah | 07:59 |
| Dr_Cain | same issue there, but this mobile data is weird | 07:59 |
| coderus | check ssu re and ssu fl | 07:59 |
| Dr_Cain | I'm on some prepaid card right now, and I can't test and compare with my regular one | 07:59 |
| Dr_Cain | hmm | 07:59 |
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| Dr_Cain | Device release is currently: 1.0.4.20 | 08:00 |
| phaeron | Dr_Cain: try updating store credentials ? | 08:01 |
| Dr_Cain | Device flavour is currently: release | 08:01 |
| phaeron | that is jolla account | 08:01 |
| Dr_Cain | phaeron: ok, I'll try | 08:02 |
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| Dr_Cain | "verifying sign-in details. please wait" | 08:02 |
| Dr_Cain | and then it's just stays there doing that | 08:03 |
| Dr_Cain | so I'm guessing this is the same issue I had before, some apps can't access the internet in 1.0.4.20 | 08:04 |
| Dr_Cain | while the terminal, android layer and web browser can | 08:04 |
| special | blaming your wlan router is a good bet? | 08:04 |
| special | (in combination with something that changed on device) | 08:04 |
| Dr_Cain | but now I can't install any other apps to try | 08:04 |
| Dr_Cain | I'm blaming connman! | 08:05 |
| Dr_Cain | let's see if i can find another wlan router | 08:05 |
| special | very odd. | 08:05 |
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| Dr_Cain | very odd indeed | 08:08 |
| Dr_Cain | I'm betting connman is saying, "oh there's bad/no internet here, bettery not try to connect" | 08:08 |
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| phaeron | Dr_Cain: does your ISP have a transparent proxy ? | 08:14 |
| phaeron | "transparent" | 08:14 |
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| Dr_Cain | it might, but I don't think so | 08:26 |
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| Dr_Cain | wouldn't surprise me though, Singtel doing stupid stuff like that | 08:26 |
| Dr_Cain | http://www.lagado.com/proxy-test | 08:30 |
| Dr_Cain | oh lawd | 08:30 |
| Dr_Cain | The proxy server has announced itself as 1.1 qt-mfc3:80 | 08:30 |
| phaeron | I might have had the same issue before actually. and connman behaves weirdly | 08:30 |
| phaeron | I had to disable proxy using in connman | 08:31 |
| phaeron | let me dig up the script | 08:31 |
| Dr_Cain | huh? how do I do that? | 08:31 |
| phaeron | Dr_Cain: first install connman-test using pkcon | 08:33 |
| phaeron | then run /usr/lib/connman/test/get-proxy-autoconfig | 08:34 |
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| Dr_Cain | hmm | 08:34 |
| Dr_Cain | what happens then? | 08:34 |
| phaeron | it will tell you what connman thinks the proxy should be | 08:34 |
| phaeron | if it doesn't Method = direct then it could be an issue | 08:35 |
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| Dr_Cain | ah | 08:35 |
| phaeron | then you can use /usr/lib/connman/test/set-proxy to tell it _not_ to use a proxy | 08:35 |
| Dr_Cain | let's try then | 08:35 |
| phaeron | force it that is | 08:35 |
| Dr_Cain | it says Method = direct | 08:37 |
| Dr_Cain | so.. uh .. no dice :V | 08:37 |
| phaeron | :( | 08:39 |
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| Dr_Cain | this is kind of annoying | 08:40 |
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| Juuba | i can see SDcard on file Explorer, but I cannot see my Music Directory that is on the card... | 08:42 |
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| phaeron | Juuba: sdcard mount location changed, file explorer needs to be fixed | 08:43 |
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| Juuba | i mean... | 08:44 |
| Juuba | on Windows Explorer :D | 08:44 |
| Juuba | over USB | 08:44 |
| Juuba | but yeah, the File Explorer -app also failed | 08:44 |
| Juuba | i can find it tho | 08:44 |
| Juuba | in /mnt/sdcard | 08:44 |
| inffy_ | /media/sdcard | 08:45 |
| Juuba | whatever, but.. why doesn't Windows see the Music -dir? | 08:45 |
| Juuba | i see Playlists and WPSystem, and my vault.tgz-backup | 08:45 |
| Juuba | hmm | 08:46 |
| Juuba | okay so /mnt/sdcard is not the same as /media/sdcard | 08:46 |
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| Juuba | this is confusing | 08:47 |
| Juuba | android has saved some stuff on /mnt/sdcard so I thought that was the correct directory | 08:47 |
| Juuba | but now I see it is not. | 08:48 |
| Juuba | there's also /data/sdcard which is the same as /mnt/sdcards | 08:48 |
| Juuba | /mnt/sdcard | 08:48 |
| Juuba | ohwell... | 08:49 |
| flux | I have /mnt/sdcard which is a symlink to /data/sdcard, which is on the / volume and has lots of android stuff in it | 08:50 |
| flux | whereas /media/sdcard is my actual sdcard, and only has data I put in there | 08:50 |
| Juuba | so.. that is not "really" on the SDCard | 08:50 |
| Juuba | okay | 08:50 |
| Juuba | effing confusing | 08:50 |
| flux | yeah, I would agree | 08:50 |
| flux | though it appears android apps like to put a lot of stuff on sdcard | 08:51 |
| Juuba | i'll write a Question about it... | 08:51 |
| flux | things that might belong to the system really | 08:51 |
| Juuba | have to formulate it a bit on my head... as a non-linux geek this is weird and confusing | 08:51 |
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| flux | maybe it should be an option to move/link /data/sdcard to /media/sdcard | 08:51 |
| flux | but personally I think the current choice is quite pragmatic | 08:52 |
| Juuba | i see someone already made it https://together.jolla.com/question/5755/how-to-let-android-apps-to-write-to-real-sdcard/ | 08:52 |
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| coderus | how to let android give root to applications? | 08:53 |
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| coderus | https://together.jolla.com/question/30084/question-giving-root-access-for-android-apps/ | 08:57 |
| coderus | vote please | 08:57 |
| Juuba | ah it was you :D | 08:58 |
| Juuba | ? | 08:58 |
| Juuba | nvm | 08:58 |
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| Juuba | hmmm, cant seem to find it now, forgotten... how to force a gallery/media database refresh | 09:20 |
| Juuba | brain cannot compile a suitable search in together.jolla now | 09:20 |
| Juuba | refresh tracker, thank you! | 09:22 |
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| Juuba | anyone have idea why Jolla Media Player does not show my Guns n' roses albums under Artist, but it does show them under Albums... | 09:30 |
| Juuba | eg.. | 09:30 |
| Juuba | now you see them: http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/5-albums-GNR-albums.jpg | 09:31 |
| Juuba | now you dont: http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/4-Artist-no-albums.jpg | 09:31 |
| Juuba | if I do "List all songs" from the Artist-view, it does show all the songs... | 09:31 |
| gobbe | it knows that GNR is not an artist ;) | 09:32 |
| Juuba | just funny | 09:32 |
| Juuba | it did that for other artists as well, but I was able to fix them by checking the mp3-tags | 09:32 |
| Juuba | but this one is ... | 09:32 |
| Juuba | http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/6-artist-list-all-songs.jpg | 09:34 |
| Juuba | and Now you see them all: http://sisuguild.fi/~juuba/jolla/mplayer/7-artist-all%20songs-visible.jpg | 09:34 |
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| Juuba | oh *snap* ... "File Browser" application decided to follow symlink when I said "delete" it | 09:43 |
| Juuba | i see someone posted this already : https://together.jolla.com/question/1342/bug-media-player-in-album-artist-overview/ | 09:47 |
| Juuba | commented with my screenshots | 09:47 |
| coderus | I'm just using QuasarMX | 09:48 |
| coderus | its perfect :) | 09:48 |
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| Juuba | also, fyi: store app: File Browser naturally followed symlink when I was trying to just delete that link... ohwell | 10:17 |
| Juuba | recursively deleted everything in there | 10:18 |
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| coderus | lol :) | 10:34 |
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| * coderus updating N9 to 1.0.4.20 just for fun now | 10:46 | |
| finga | on sunday i was here and asked if it's possible to get sailfishOS running on my geeksphone revolution | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | yep | 10:52 |
| finga | people told me that its kind of easy with cyanogenmod running | 10:52 |
| finga | so i posted that into the geeksphone forum (http://forum.geeksphone.com/index.php?topic=5949.0) maybe you can share a docu with how to do it with cyanogenmod | 10:54 |
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| ChimChim | Good day lads :) | 11:06 |
| stephg | morning! | 11:06 |
| ChimChim | So I saw that the 4th update has been released and I guess we will be soon seeing the zip for the N4? :) | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | yes hopefully | 11:07 |
| Stskeeps | we need to just get off the long night last night and get things in order | 11:07 |
| ChimChim | Can´t wait! | 11:08 |
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| coderus | vgrade: ping | 11:25 |
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| TiLorm | Hi | 11:30 |
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| coderus | hello | 11:31 |
| TiLorm | Is it possible to get SailfishOS running on your own phone? | 11:32 |
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| leinir | TiLorm: that depends greatly on what you mean by "your own phone" ;) | 11:33 |
| avivbyo | So whats up with N4 release im kinda confused | 11:33 |
| TiLorm | Yeah, I know, I expected that question. Currently I have a Sony Xperia Arc LT15i, but I'm thinking of buying a new phone. What phones are currently supported? | 11:34 |
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| coderus | TiLorm: if CyanogenMod 10.1 available youhave good luck to success | 11:35 |
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| nahkiss_ | I don't think there's any official support for anything. There's dev-builds for phones but they are not public, afaik | 11:36 |
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| TiLorm | I can get CM10 on it, but not 10.1. What's the differeence between 10 and 10.1? | 11:39 |
| Juuba | officially: only Jolla-phone i think | 11:39 |
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| inffy_ | TiLorm: the android base is different | 11:40 |
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| inffy_ | cm10 is Android 4.2 if i remeber right | 11:40 |
| inffy_ | or 4.1 | 11:40 |
| avivbyo | Or 4.3 | 11:40 |
| TiLorm | Hm, ok, thanks. Maybe someone got 10.1 running on it. Where is any documentation how to get SailfishOS on a CM10.1 device? | 11:41 |
| avivbyo | depends Cm10.0 = 4.1 Cm10.1=4.2 Cm10.2=4.3 | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | TiLorm: we're doing this in phases; first to early adopters (nexus 4, samsung galaxy s iii) and a little later on, guides on how to port it, then eventually to users directly | 11:41 |
| Stskeeps | sign up with sledges with your devices and name/email | 11:42 |
| TiLorm | So, there's no way to get even if you would have te right phone atm? | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | TiLorm: we were waiting for the latest sailfishos release that came out last night :) | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | so, you just arrived at bad timing | 11:43 |
| TiLorm | Well, it can wait. When should I check again, a week/month? | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | let's say max 2 weeks, but sign up with a message to 'sledges' and you'll get notified | 11:44 |
| TiLorm | Thanks, I'll look into it. | 11:44 |
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| cos- | Updated my phone at last. Thanks for everyone involved! | 12:58 |
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| SireWolf- | Sorry my ISP is annoying me more than anyone else. | 14:22 |
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| Titan_Arum | how does one become an early adopter? | 14:28 |
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| tbr | Titan_Arum: by messaging sledges with email address and explaining motivation. | 14:29 |
| tbr | being able to "dive in" and actually contribute to fixes is a plus | 14:29 |
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| polishchocolate | any news about sailfish for nexus 4, guys? | 15:03 |
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| squidd | polishchocolate: soonish | 15:03 |
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| polishchocolate | :D | 15:04 |
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| SireWolf | hey is sailfish running on anything cheap and plentiful yet? | 15:26 |
| Bysmyyr | I think jolla is cheap | 15:28 |
| SireWolf | I do too | 15:29 |
| SireWolf | I'm planning to get myself one | 15:29 |
| SireWolf | I was hoping for an older device | 15:29 |
| SireWolf | that was VERY cheap | 15:29 |
| Bysmyyr | that is good plan ;P | 15:29 |
| SireWolf | thats all | 15:29 |
| SireWolf | to give away | 15:30 |
| SireWolf | never mind my charitable purposes | 15:30 |
| SireWolf | if I could afford to subsidize Jolla I would ;) | 15:30 |
| SireWolf | I already wanna get my folk working on Sailfish | 15:30 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu update v0.2-1 https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu | 15:30 |
| SireWolf | its the besst OS for mobile platforms currently being actively developed | 15:30 |
| squidd | coderus: yay \/ | 15:30 |
| squidd | ops | 15:31 |
| squidd | lost my head | 15:31 |
| squidd | damn | 15:31 |
| SireWolf | I'd love to give you guys credit for that | 15:31 |
| SireWolf | but.. we could be mean instead about Google, Apple, Nokia, Microsoft and etc | 15:31 |
| SireWolf | all either greedy hedonists or incompetent fools | 15:31 |
| SireWolf | ya know? | 15:31 |
| SireWolf | (not YOU guys ;) ) | 15:31 |
| squidd | fools everywhere | 15:32 |
| Wnt | coderus: is the full source code of mitakuuluu publicly available? | 15:32 |
| squidd | Wnt: its top secret if I remember | 15:32 |
| squidd | NSA eyes only | 15:32 |
| Eztran | Wnt: no idea if full, but https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu/ | 15:33 |
| SireWolf | whats Mitakuuluu? | 15:33 |
| Eztran | WhatsApp client. | 15:34 |
| squidd | SireWolf: its unofficial whatsapp client | 15:34 |
| Wnt | Eztran: yes, I have browsed through that repo, but at least the readme says it's only a bugtracker | 15:34 |
| Eztran | Mmm, sure. There is code there though as you've probably seen, as I said no idea if that's all of it. | 15:35 |
| Wnt | coderus: what is the licence of Mitakuuluu? | 15:36 |
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| coderus | Wnt: WTFPL | 16:18 |
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| Wnt | coderus: ok. Could you add licencing information to the git repository of Mitakuuluu? http://www.wtfpl.net/faq/ | 18:27 |
| Nicd- | I don't think it's open source | 18:27 |
| Wnt | Nicd-: at leas some of the C++ / QML code seems to be in https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu | 18:27 |
| Wnt | haven't tried compiling it yet myself | 18:28 |
| Wnt | from the repository, see persecute2 directory | 18:28 |
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| Nokius1 | special: are u here | 18:29 |
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| Nokius1 | had it now again swipe the browser to multitask view and Settings has now no cover settings app is open with main window for easy en and disable of wifi | 18:31 |
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| Nokius1 | special: had it now again swipe the browser to multitask view and Settings has now no  cover settings app is open with main window for easy en and disable of wifi | 18:32 |
| Nokius1 | special: if i open and swipe settings back to app view still no cover | 18:32 |
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| coderus | Wnt: ok, done :) | 18:53 |
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| flotron2 | Is it possible to test from the "TOH kit template" the ambience rpm in the PC emulator? | 19:20 |
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| Wnt | coderus: cool, thanks! looking forward to contribute to Mitakuuluu | 19:29 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ahoi! | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | JUST noticed | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | on the lockscreen, when a call is active, there is a widget to the ongoing call | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | could anyone point me towards the code of this piece? | 19:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (aka which package implements the functionality?) | 19:30 |
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| Wnt | tortoisedoc_: that's odd "grep -r "call in progress" /usr/*" doesn't seem to find the piece of software that's doing it | 19:38 |
| Wnt | where are the translations stored on the device? | 19:38 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Wnt : yeah exactly | 19:40 |
| J4ZZ | Hi guys, it's J4ZZ from TMO I could need some sserious help here. | 19:40 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | J4ZZ: what kind of help? | 19:43 |
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| J4ZZ | @tortoisedec I had problems with ssh connection after the latest updated. But got it fixed by disabling NielDKs repo and reinstall the default openssh stuff from jolla. But now installing wget or any other apps from NielDK (like transmission) fail with "Fatal error: nothing provides libcrypto.so.1.0.0" | 19:47 |
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| J4ZZ | so, I though maybe unstalling openssl and reinstalling openssl from jolla might fix this, but it didn't and now even pkcon errors out with "pkcon: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 19:49 |
| tortoisedoc_ | definitely a dependency problem (sorry for stating the obvious) | 19:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | disable NielDK, reflash? | 19:50 |
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| J4ZZ | I stuck here with Openssl and openssl-libs missing.... But I guess I need the one from Jolla not the packages from NielDK. Could you try to fetch the .rpms for me please? | 19:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how do I pass them over? | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | J4ZZ: i can better recommend that you factory reset | 19:52 |
| J4ZZ | Just send me a link ;) dropbox or whatever if possible | 19:52 |
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| J4ZZ | Stskeep: Not an option ;) | 19:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 19:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | which package is complaining about the libcrypto being missing? | 19:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | I believe NielDK is linked towards old libraries | 19:56 |
| tortoisedoc_ | = | 19:56 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ? | 19:56 |
| J4ZZ | wget, transmission, strace, pkcon, zypper :D etc... I deleted openssl and openssl-libs with "rpm -e --nodeps" and after that even pkcon and zypper stopped working | 19:56 |
| pp_ | J4ZZ: https://releases.jolla.com/releases/1.0.4.20/jolla/armv7hl/core/armv7hl/openssl-1.0.1f-1.2.1.armv7hl.rpm ;) | 19:57 |
| pp_ | (but yea, resetting is safest to get a sane system) | 19:58 |
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| J4ZZ | pp_: Thanks... | 20:00 |
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| tbr | thp: looking at brainparty in chum, it wants to install "libhybris-sbj-libGLESv1-0.0.0.35-10.9.1.jolla.armv7hl" - just a bit surprised about it pulling in a hw adaptation package | 20:08 |
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| Stskeeps | it probably depends on libGLESv1something.so | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | and GLESv1 isn't preinstalled | 20:09 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: so that's expected and OK then? | 20:12 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 20:13 |
| coderus | Wnt: UTF16 | 20:13 |
| coderus | there is 00 byte between letters | 20:13 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how to grep in utf16? | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :| | 20:14 |
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| J4ZZ | Ok, got it fixed. Pkcon, ssh, and openssl are working again. But my problem remains. I cannot install NielDKs openssh-6.5p1-5.armv7hl.rpm, nor any other of his packages. Neither in Warehouse nor in fingerterm.... always "Fatal error: nothing provides libcrypto.so.1.0.0 " | 20:18 |
| coderus | I added two devices in QtCreator settings. One over usb, second over wlan. | 20:20 |
| coderus | How to select device to deploy? | 20:20 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : set default? | 20:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (from device screen) | 20:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : *or* from projects -> run? | 20:24 |
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| pp_ | recompile src.rpm on current system :P | 20:28 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: oh, thanks. missed that button :) | 20:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | that is a tricky one :-) | 20:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | caused many headaches on n9 | 20:29 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | since the update, I have had 2 power failures during phone conv and once while sending sms | 20:32 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | never had this before | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | AL13N_jolla : used to have them all the time *before* the update | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (esp when using wlan + data) | 20:33 |
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| tbr | as in full reboot or just UI restart? | 20:37 |
| * tbr had UI restarts sometimes, but never full reboots | 20:37 | |
| Stskeeps | check uptime.. | 20:38 |
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| Turski | i haven't had yet reboots/shutdowns after upgrade, but battery seems to drain double as fast as before | 20:39 |
| Turski | probably would be time to write a proper battery logger... | 20:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | tbr : does ui restart trigger pincode entering as well? | 20:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or does only reboot do it? | 20:40 |
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| Turski | tortoisedoc_: check uptime... | 20:40 |
| tbr | tortoisedoc_: ui restart should not prompt a pin query | 20:41 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | as far as I can tell, *before* the update, I had reboots with booting screen + following pin query | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | after update, not anymore - so far | 20:43 |
| tortoisedoc_ | which means last 24 hours :) | 20:43 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | tbr: Stskeeps tortoisedoc no, it a powerfail, it doesn't shutdown, it's just off, i have to boot up and no shutdown is logged | 21:46 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | i don't have the ui freeze or ui restarts like last time, and never had reboots or whatnot | 21:48 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | it's just like power is just dead | 21:48 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | but i haven't opened it or removed anything since... | 21:50 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | and i still have enough charge | 21:50 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | it's puzzling me since it appears to be hardware, but how could it? and 3 times today? while phoning or sending sms? | 22:07 |
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| Turski | AL13N_jolla_: i've had those for a long time before upgrade | 22:10 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | it's not like that power down from earlier. | 22:11 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | where charge level jumps or something. | 22:12 |
| Turski | AL13N_jolla_: ? | 22:12 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | there is no actual shutdown. it's really just like a fail battery | 22:13 |
| Turski | AL13N_jolla_: yea, i've had plenty of those | 22:13 |
| Turski | the bad thing is that apparently update didn't fix it then | 22:13 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | how did you fix those? | 22:13 |
| Turski | there's no known fix | 22:14 |
| Turski | i were told that update might fix it | 22:14 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | was it during calls as well? | 22:14 |
| Turski | just randomly whenever it wanted | 22:14 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | mine is only during calls or sending sms | 22:15 |
| Turski | haven't had any during a call, most of times were when i pulled the device from my pocket, unlocked it and tried to do something | 22:15 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | like i send sms, wait for confirmation and black... | 22:16 |
| Turski | well, it probably has something to do with high power draw | 22:16 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | or i called and after 10 min during call. again | 22:17 |
| Turski | what kind of battery levels those happened? | 22:17 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | i dunno if it's that, since the screen was off | 22:17 |
| Turski | well, what it showed when you booted it again? | 22:17 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | 60 45 35? | 22:18 |
| Turski | ok.. | 22:18 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | i haven't charged yet | 22:18 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | now I'm at 22 | 22:18 |
| Turski | i've had those anywhere between 20-96% | 22:18 |
| Turski | i don't actually remember when my device could go below 30% without shutting down before | 22:19 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | i don't think it's power related | 22:19 |
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| AL13N_jolla_ | mine shuts down at2 | 22:19 |
| Turski | i've mostly had to recharge at 60% since that's when the problems have started | 22:20 |
| AL13N_jolla_ | myeah i don't think that actually helps | 22:20 |
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| Trapped | Hi everyone | 22:23 |
| shallimus | hi Trapped | 22:24 |
| Trapped | Anyone knows how does the Jolla in its whole store contacs? | 22:24 |
| shallimus | heh. I've been lurking waiting for some discussion in the hopes of asking my own similar question about the calendar. | 22:24 |
| shallimus | and sorry, no, I don't | 22:24 |
| Trapped | Do you own one? If so, you could lurk through the filesystem | 22:25 |
| shallimus | I do - but what am I looking for? | 22:25 |
| shallimus | find / -name "*contact*" or what? | 22:25 |
| Trapped | Stuff with a name recalling the word "contacts" for example | 22:25 |
| Trapped | That would be a start | 22:25 |
| shallimus | hoping to find some sort of documentation to give some sort of clue first | 22:26 |
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| shallimus | hmm - I have to afk, but I'll be back | 22:26 |
| shallimus | if I can find anything later I'll type it here and on TMO | 22:26 |
| Trapped | I'm looking for some as well, but seems like both Nemo and Mer are not widely documented | 22:26 |
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| shallimus | well, I'll give it a look when I return, but gotta go | 22:26 |
| shallimus | good luck :) | 22:26 |
| Trapped | Cya | 22:26 |
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| Trapped | shallimus: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1397747#post1397747 | 22:29 |
| Eztran | Hehe, was literally just about to post that location :) | 22:30 |
| Eztran | Sorry, I'm a little slow apparently. | 22:30 |
| Trapped | I must say, I find such a deep location to be quite obscure | 22:32 |
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| Trapped | Obviously it doesn't affect the end user, but having something like /home/nemo/.contacts.db would have been cleaner imho | 22:32 |
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| shallimus | if you're still there, Trapped, I'm back and SSH'd into my Jolla | 23:01 |
| shallimus | I saw the TMO post you found | 23:01 |
| shallimus | still need some info? I can try to dig it out if you like | 23:01 |
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| Trapped | I'd like to know the format of the data of that DB | 23:02 |
| Trapped | It's SQLite as we now know, but how are the rows composed? | 23:02 |
| shallimus | you mean the schema, not just that it's sqllite | 23:03 |
| shallimus | OK, will look | 23:03 |
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| shallimus | there are about 20 tables in there | 23:05 |
| shallimus | Addresses, Anniversaries Avatars, Birthdays, EmailAddresses etc | 23:06 |
| shallimus | so no one "contacts" table as far as I can see | 23:06 |
| shallimus | for instance: | 23:08 |
| shallimus | sqlite> pragma table_info(PhoneNumbers); 0|detailId|INTEGER|0||1 1|contactId|INTEGER KEY|0||0 2|phoneNumber|TEXT|0||0 3|subTypes|TEXT|0||0 4|normalizedNumber|TEXT|0||0 | 23:08 |
| shallimus | not sure how helpful it is to dump random info, but that's the best I can do right now without more specific stuff to look for | 23:09 |
| shallimus | not on my main machine so can't easily do more complex work, either | 23:09 |
| Trapped | I just wanted to know if it's there that the actual contacts (with phone numbers and names et cetera) are stored | 23:10 |
| shallimus | but it shouldn't be too tricky to post the sqlite_master contents to TMO or somewhere later | 23:10 |
| shallimus | oh yes | 23:10 |
| shallimus | well... to be more precise: I see contacts info in there | 23:10 |
| Trapped | I need to migrate 4000+ contacts from a Nokia phone | 23:10 |
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| shallimus | not the N9? I saw somewhere something about migrating data from that to Jolla phone | 23:10 |
| shallimus | and could you perhaps migrate from another Nokia to N9 to Jolla? | 23:10 |
| Eztran | vcf works IIRC? | 23:11 |
| Trapped | It's not an N9 | 23:11 |
| Trapped | It's a E72 | 23:11 |
| shallimus | yeah I think I saw something about vcd: so maybe extract other phone in whatever format, convert to vcd somehow (aybe some nice canned script, or maybe you need to write something)....? | 23:11 |
| shallimus | then mass load vcd somehow through terminal | 23:12 |
| shallimus | Eztran is probably your saviour here in terms of ideas :) | 23:12 |
| shallimus | *vcf | 23:12 |
| shallimus | not sure who has vcd these days | 23:12 |
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| Nightmare__ | if it is a symbian nokia it should be supported since the last update https://together.jolla.com/question/33507/release-notes-software-version-10420-ohijarvi/ | 23:13 |
| special | guys | 23:13 |
| special | you can reverse engineer the contacts database format | 23:13 |
| special | https://github.com/nemomobile/qtcontacts-sqlite or you could look at github | 23:13 |
| shallimus | or something much easier, right? | 23:13 |
| shallimus | yeah | 23:13 |
| shallimus | heh | 23:13 |
| special | middleware is all OSS, take advantage :p | 23:13 |
| shallimus | but VCF extract from E72 should be simple | 23:13 |
| shallimus | http://www.justin.my/2011/04/how-to-transfer-contact-from-nokia-to-android/ | 23:13 |
| shallimus | so maybe no need | 23:13 |
| shallimus | I really, really need to get into github | 23:13 |
| Trapped | I already tried to export the VCFs from the phone with Nokia's program | 23:14 |
| Trapped | It crashed | 23:14 |
| shallimus | that's one problem with working in a closed/proprietary environment for my job... learn some cool things, but miss out on a decade of internet-based advancemdent | 23:14 |
| shallimus | oh | 23:14 |
| Trapped | So I'm just gonna take all the contacts one by one | 23:14 |
| shallimus | well, that sucks | 23:14 |
| shallimus | 4000?! | 23:14 |
| Trapped | 4000, but full of info | 23:14 |
| Nightmare__ | on my n8 i just selected all contacts an selected save to sdcard -> all contacts were stored as vcf on sdcardhandy | 23:14 |
| shallimus | agree: don't think you need external software to extract VCF (see that link I posted) | 23:15 |
| shallimus | admittedly that's for an E71 but same thing basically afaik | 23:15 |
| Trapped | Yeah, probably | 23:15 |
| Trapped | Gonna try that then | 23:16 |
| Trapped | Goodnight everyone, gotta work tomorrow :) | 23:16 |
| shallimus | hope it works :P g'night | 23:16 |
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| shallimus | OK - so I found the sqlite DB which represents the calendar | 23:30 |
| shallimus | anyone know why removing and re-adding my google account doesn't result in recreation of the Calendar? | 23:30 |
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| shallimus | good night #sailfishos | 23:37 |
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