Monday, 2014-03-17

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coderusAL13N: default05:10
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coderusNightmare_: you dont need to think, sorry. Just send me your logfile. that's all :)05:11
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squiddcoderus: for some reason mitäkuuluu doesnt show the contacts name but it shows just the number06:02
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chriadamthe contacts database is only accessible by privileged applications, at the moment.  There is work ongoing to export user-owned contact data to a nemo-readable contacts database, but it's not ready yet.06:11
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tortoisedocgrumblegrumble07:03
tortoisedocany chance the next update will allow for libcontentaction5?07:04
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coderussquidd: did you synced that contacts?09:51
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squiddyes09:59
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squiddbut I got it now by deleting it and syncing again10:04
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ligezaHi all, how can I test sailfish for nexus 4? Is there any link?11:23
Stskeepsligeza: you can sign up with sledges to be an early adopter11:23
Stskeepswe're waiting for sailfish update4 to go out right now11:23
ligezaOk, thanks for info11:24
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Nightmare__"right now" == today? :D11:28
Stskeepsno11:28
Stskeepsas in, that's not what i meant11:29
Stskeeps:P11:29
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pp_Beginning of this week could be until midday thursday some funny timezone if you really stretch the definition ;)11:30
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Turskii kinda guess that friday also counts as "early this week"11:42
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cos-is it possible to inject audio to voice call and/or record the call data with an application?12:22
Stskeepsafaik it's all alsa12:22
cos-+ pulseaudio?12:23
Trapped_Is it possible to access data such as the mobile network cells/connection quality?12:23
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cos-looks like QMediaRecorder could be used to record audio at least on Harmattan12:36
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coderuswhat is version of upcoming release?16:19
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gobbecoderus: 1.0.4.116:23
Stskeepswe changed to 'digits of pi'16:23
Stskeepsand you have to guess which start and stop position16:23
cvpwill be different between MWC14 ? :)16:24
cvpor the same image?16:25
coderusit should be different :)16:26
coderusStskeeps: gobbe is wrong? :)16:27
raa70#define pi = 3 ;close enough16:28
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coderus:D16:29
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narchie/j digitalocean16:35
narchieuhh16:35
cvp:)16:36
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cvpStskeeps: how long work jolla per day ? to 19:00 ?17:05
Stskeepscvp: when we fall asleep17:05
cvphrhr :D17:05
Stskeepsi wish i was kidding17:06
cvpi wish i can send you a truck full with redbull :P17:07
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Nightmare__:D17:12
Stskeepscvp: our coffee machines already make stuff that's closer to liquid caffeine17:13
cvp:)17:14
cvpmaybe we spend you speed :D :p17:14
cvpafter work you have power to dancing for next 6 hour in the disco :D17:15
Stskeepshehe17:16
Sail0rmaybe we should send you some penguin mints17:16
cvppenguin mints? new dope on the world ? nerver hear about :D17:17
ottulonenI bet they're cool17:17
Sail0rhttp://www.peppermints.com/penguin-caffeinated-reds-12-pack.html17:17
cvpah ok :D17:18
Sail0rAll three varieties of caffeinated mints contain 7mg[1] of caffeine per mint. Five mints are approximately equal to one 12 ounce can of cola.17:18
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squiddso just keep going with coke to stay up17:32
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squiddsilly mints17:32
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* stephg laughs at SfietKonstantin's latest tweet18:19
Sail0r?18:20
stephgis a nice tweet!18:20
SfietKonstantin?18:20
SfietKonstantinhi guys :)18:20
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pp_hmn, apparently tonight!18:21
Sfiet_Konstantinrumors spread fast18:21
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AL13Nwhat rumour?18:25
AL13NSfiet_Konstantin: what's goin' on?18:25
Stskeepswe're going to lower marc into icey cold waters18:25
Sfiet_KonstantinAL13N: update this evening18:25
Stskeepswait, that already happened18:25
squiddwhat does this evening mean?18:25
AL13NStskeeps: wut?18:25
AL13NStskeeps: pics or it didn't happen18:26
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Sfiet_Konstantinsquidd: 23:5918:26
AL13NCET?18:26
AL13Nor GMT+12?18:27
AL13N:-)18:27
squiddmy time?!18:27
StskeepsAL13N: https://scontent-b-vie.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t31.0-8/1602143_10152339388534453_320795028_o.jpg18:28
AL13Nwait18:28
AL13NGMT-1218:28
AL13NStskeeps: holy hell!18:28
squiddMY JOLLA IS WATERPROOF?!18:28
stephgsquidd, I dare you to try it ;)18:28
squiddNo!18:28
squiddIt might die18:28
squiddand I'm not too sure I can revive that18:29
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stephgright gotta get mrs steph, bbl, do keep the fervent guessing at a suitably mad level18:29
Sailor1190heloo everyone18:29
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Sailor1190update not yet?18:31
squiddnot yet18:31
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edipsupdate?18:33
Sailor1190guys could someone give me tips on installing ubuntu in a win8 built-in computer?18:33
Sailor1190i am so unhappy with the laptop that i bought18:34
Sail0rI wonder how pretty the new update screen is :)18:34
mikmasomething to do with the bios i think18:34
squidddownload ubuntu, install18:34
walokraubuntu isn't much better than win8. mint is somewhat18:34
Sail0rFedora 20 :)18:35
squiddarch18:35
walokragentoo18:35
Sailor1190not possible18:35
edipslubuntu18:35
Mnsu_a vote for arch18:35
jussiKubuntu :)18:35
Sail0rslackware!18:35
jussigentoo! wait, wot?18:35
jussi:P18:35
Morpog_MobileWin718:35
Sailor1190walokra: its your opinion18:36
Sail0rOsX18:36
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jussiSailor1190: just drop the USB/CD in and boot from it. the rest should be simple18:36
squiddI think I just saw something about some arch for noob installation18:36
Sailor1190fedora 20?18:36
jussiSailor1190: #ubuntu is also a decent place to ask...18:36
Sail0rFedora 20 is easy to install18:36
Sail0r#fedora18:36
Sailor1190i prefer to ask there then18:37
edipslubuntuv13.10 is very fast and very stable for me18:37
Sailor1190thank you18:37
jussiyw18:37
Sailor1190jussi: you couldn't install it normally in recent computers18:38
squiddoh yeah, archbang is what it was called18:38
Sailor1190i guarantee you18:38
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Sailor1190uefi security stuff18:38
squiddcan't you turn it off from the bios or something?18:39
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Sailor1190forgot it18:39
Sailor1190simply can't18:39
Sailor1190i chaged bios, even though i couldn't install it18:40
Stskeepshttps://together.jolla.com/question/33507/release-notes-software-version-10420-ohijarvi/18:40
squidduuu, shiny18:41
coderusyeah18:42
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coderusupdate product wants me to reinstall 1.0.3.8 :D18:44
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edips:D18:45
mikmaand update doesn't even show me there's a new one available ;)18:45
Morpog_MobileServers will be rushed again i guess :)18:46
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coderuswhat is default ssu flavour? Jonni Stskeeps18:48
coderusseems i pushed SSU button in past :)18:48
edipseverybody is happy now18:48
Morpog_Mobilesales18:48
Stskeepscoderus: it may take some time to get to your device, patience18:48
Stskeepsif you haven't received it in 12 hours, then you probably have a problem :)18:49
Morpog_Mobileyeah, two way calendar sync!18:49
squiddStskeeps: 12 hours... omg18:49
Morpog_Mobilecoderus: sales18:49
coderusthanks :)18:49
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pp_downloaded :P18:52
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coderus=)18:53
coderusversion --dup also have no update for me18:54
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tortoisedoc_jee update 4 :D19:01
tortoisedoc_one question19:01
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edips:)19:07
tortoisedoc_1000 answers :D19:10
tortoisedoc_hmm19:10
tortoisedoc_when can we see libcontentaction5 allowed in store?19:10
tortoisedoc_are there any plans for that?19:10
tortoisedoc_*crossing fingers and ducking*19:10
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coderuswhat is for?19:13
tortoisedoc_libcontentaction5 handles most of mime and xdg stuff19:14
tortoisedoc_(launching)19:14
gobbeStskeeps: is there way to check if upgrade to ohijarvi is available from ssh?19:14
Nokiusis there some one with app freezing out there since the update to 1.0.4.20?19:14
tortoisedoc_im actually surprised it is not allowed in store19:14
kimmoliNokius: go to #jollamobile - this issue with openrepos repos19:15
Nokiuskimmoli: okay Thanks19:15
kimmoliNokius: "what has happened is that you had a openrepos repository added that contains several system packages at different versions than shipped from jolla"19:16
tortoisedoc_as it seems at least lipstick itself is using it (the nemo version heh)19:16
tortoisedoc_love the slickness of this relase :)19:16
Nokiuskimmoli:  okay :(19:17
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tortoisedoc_hmm seems jolla guys are out partying :P19:20
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Stskeepswe're not out partying19:21
squiddStskeeps: and you shouldnt be because I havent got my update yet :(19:22
Jonni;)19:22
squiddRAWR19:22
tortoisedoc_Stskeeps : oh too bad - wait ill open a b33r in your honour guys then19:23
tortoisedoc_grr19:23
tortoisedoc_why do you guys want me to build libcontent as a crappy static lib ;_;19:23
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coderustortoisedoc_: i still dont understant what purpose of this lib :)19:24
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gobbehow I can check if theres enable openrepos?19:34
gobbeenabled19:34
tortoisedoc_coderus : trigger actions for files (based on mimes)19:34
Accegobbe: do you have dev mode?19:34
gobbesure19:35
Accessu lr19:35
gobbeaah, thanx19:35
Accessu dr <reponame> to disable19:35
coderustortoisedoc_: Qt.openUrlExternally() ?19:35
tortoisedoc_coderus: sortof, more lowlevel19:36
tortoisedoc_hmm19:36
tortoisedoc_I get your point now :P19:36
coderusxdg-open?19:36
gobbebut anyway I'm not able to reach the phone physically to check if update is available so it seems that theres no way to check/update to 1.0.4.20 from ssh19:36
coderusqt5 have QMimeDatabase and QMime19:36
tortoisedoc_yes, freedesktop19:37
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coderusgobbe: version --dup19:37
gobbecoderus: need to run that as root?19:38
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coderusno19:39
tortoisedoc_coderus: what is qt c++ counterpart of openUrlExternally`?19:39
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stephg_jooh update :)19:39
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coderustortoisedoc_: QDesktopServices::openUrl()19:40
gobbecoderus: ok, thans. however it didn't say anything special, just asks me to reboot the device now19:40
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tortoisedoc_coderus : thanks!19:40
coderusgobbe: it means update not available yet :)19:40
coderustortoisedoc_: :)19:40
gobbecoderus: ok. that's enough :)19:40
tortoisedoc_sometimes i forget that QT has everything that one needs :)19:42
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coderus:)19:45
* coderus sometimes forget about QML features in Sailfish and starting creating stupid wrappers :D19:46
tortoisedoc_hehe19:46
tortoisedoc_w00t it w0rks! :D19:46
tortoisedoc_awesome19:46
coderus:D19:47
squiddwow, such tricks19:47
coderusmuch luck, no tricks19:47
tortoisedoc_exactly, much luck19:47
tortoisedoc_for example that coderus exists :D19:47
tortoisedoc_no coderus, no app in jstore19:48
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stephgboo20:02
stephgmy Jolla is teasing me20:02
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squiddits mean like that20:03
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stephgah it wasn't20:04
stephgwoop downloading :)20:04
squidd:(20:04
squiddWhy doesnt it let me download it?!20:04
squiddWHAT DID I DO WRONG20:05
Sail0rdo you have openrepos?20:06
squiddall disabled20:06
Sail0rhm20:06
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squiddguess it gets there eventually :)20:08
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Stskeepssquidd: we roll out in batches20:09
Stskeepsin order to slow down a bit if something goes wrong20:09
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squiddyeah I get it20:09
squiddStill going to complain until I get it :D20:09
Sail0rStskeeps: based on how old the phone is or imei ranges or how is it done?20:10
EztranCertainly better than a server going down and nobody getting it =)20:10
squiddSail0r: Id guess they have a pic of every user and they just decide by if they like the face or not20:10
squiddThats why Ill be the last cos no1 likes my face20:10
Sail0rso all girls get it first? ;)20:11
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squiddI guess yeah if they guy making the decision like girls :O20:11
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tortoisedoc_*grumble*20:16
tortoisedoc_ERROR [/usr/bin/harbour-debota] Binary does not link to __libc_start_main@GLIBC_2.4. FAILED20:16
tortoisedoc_obscure jpower20:16
tortoisedoc_what is this error?20:17
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kontiosounds like harbour-debota is not a binary?!20:19
tortoisedoc_building for arm actually solved it20:29
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coderus :)20:31
coderustortoisedoc_: you have latest SDK?20:31
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tortoisedoc_hmm20:35
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coderusif not you should clean project every time you switching target21:01
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flotronUpdate was launched, so we are ready for Sailfish for Nexus :)21:16
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Stskeepsflotron: once i've gotten all my hair stitched back on after ripping it all out..21:17
Stskeeps:P21:17
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flotronthanks to your baldness i will use Sailfish for first time some day ;)21:22
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cos-has it been launched? "Check for update" doesn't seem to do anything.21:25
raa70all things good comes to those who wait21:26
cos-..and store seems to be full also21:27
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raa70https://together.jolla.com/question/33598/official-announcement-important-steps-to-do-before-updating/ also this21:28
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flotron@Stskeeps: you are making the adaptation with 1.0.4.20?21:28
Stskeepsflotron: yes21:28
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merlin1991lbt / tbr now we just need a 1.0.4.20 target for chum (python3 finally has ssl builtin so I can get started)21:42
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Nightmare__installing 1.0.3.8 :D21:44
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lbtmerlin1991: good point...21:50
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lbttbr: https://build.merproject.org/project/show?project=sailfishos%3Achum%3A1.0.4.20%3Atesting exists now :)22:02
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avivbyoThe update 1.0.4.1 is out , does it affects the Nexus 4's alpha release?22:02
Stskeepsyes, it means we get to get ready :P22:02
avivbyoOkay , and will everyone who signed up for early adopting will get the alpha?22:03
merlin1991thanks lbt22:03
lbtmerlin1991: you can build against it already22:04
merlin1991I need to resurrect my laptop for that, beer in the keyboard wasn't my greatest idea last weekend22:05
Stskeepsavivbyo: we'll be communicating about that22:05
lbthehe22:05
phaeronlbt: may I ask why you add mds to the build path22:06
lbtphaeron: mmm ...22:07
phaeronI did ask before but we got distracted :)22:08
M4rtinKlbt: looks like python3-base is missing from sailfishos_1.0.4.20_latest_armv7hl22:08
M4rtinKlbt: as you can see here: https://build.merproject.org/project/monitor?project=home%3AMartinK%3Asailfish%3Amodrana22:08
lbtyeah - I recall - it's in my cut'n'paste automation22:08
M4rtinKwas it perhaps renamed ?22:08
lbtphaeron: fixed22:09
phaeronlbt: ok. but one more detail you need to rebuild sb2tools packages22:09
phaeronlbt: and I think you already put prjconf ?22:09
merlin1991M4rtinK: it's not only python3: nothing provides python3-base, nothing provides rpm, nothing provides binutils, nothing provides gcc, nothing provides glibc, nothing provides rpm-build, nothing provides libtool, nothing provides sb2-tools-armv7hl-dependency-inject22:10
merlin1991that's quite a list22:10
phaeronlbt: ^^22:10
lbtphaeron: yeah - I used an old one.22:10
phaeronlbt: I didn't think you would do it immediately :D22:10
lbt'compiling' :)22:10
phaeronwhat do you mean compiling :)22:11
lbtmerlin1991: hmm - it passed my casual test build22:12
lbtphaeron: http://xkcd.com/303/22:12
phaeronlbt: after you remove the mds2 path you need to build a sb2-tools package22:12
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lbtI'm doing an android build so I had some time22:12
lbtphaeron: *sigh* .. OK22:13
lbtphaeron: which ?22:14
phaeronlbt: thing is mds would provide an old one which doesn't match the system22:14
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lbtmerlin1991: hold up for a while22:15
M4rtinKlbt: you can't really use that when working with Python :)22:15
M4rtinKlbt: but "Pylint is still running" is close :)22:15
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AL13Ni got a question22:53
AL13Nis it possible to disable sms option for landline calls?22:54
specialyou mean the "reject call and reply with sms" option?22:54
specialgenerally, you can't reliably know if an incoming number is mobile or landline22:55
specialthere is data that can help assume it based on number allocations in some countries, but it can be outdated and incomplete22:55
specialnot really suitable for anything like that.22:56
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AL13Nspecial: well, in our country is simple and i would like to not show sms option everywhere23:17
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AL13Nwould be nice as an option, and possibly change the rules of such in devmode23:17
AL13Nthough i would just take the manually selected option (landline vs mobile etc...)23:18
specialvote for the tjc link that was in #jollamobile I guess23:18
AL13Ni did23:18
specialthose can be very unreliable23:18
AL13Nyes, but you can change it23:18
specialmany people don't bother filling them in, synced services can have the wrong data, etc23:18
AL13N:-)23:18
AL13Ni don't mean enable by default23:18
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specialit'd be very unintuitive to hide features on that basis. "Why doesn't my phone number appear?!"23:18
AL13Ndon't get me wrong23:18
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AL13Nif people select the option which was disabled before... they at least know about it23:19
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AL13Nmaybe like edit regexes to decide mobile vs landline and a different checkbox to say (i don't sms to landlines)23:19
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AL13N(i know it's possible to do sms to landline)23:20
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AL13Nwhen sending sms, it gives less numbers to send to and picks the correct one at least23:20
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AL13Nah well, not important23:20
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dodgeramreshi all, the new update is great....23:28
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