Thursday, 2014-02-20

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Agatha19 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6900:04
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satmdplease feel free to report agathe1900:06
satmdI DO have an open abuse report00:06
satmd(the've been in #firefox, too)00:06
jukeis it always the same ip?00:06
juke(i'm ignoring joins and leaves so i can't tell)00:07
satmdI'm not actively monitoring it00:07
satmdbut I remmeber seing the link twice00:07
satmdonce after me reporting it00:07
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satmdthe whois shows a german ISP, and I'm German, so I decided to take a chance on it00:07
satmdthey've been notified of the IP being submitted to DroneBL00:08
satmdthis one too as of now00:08
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satmdI've *now* checked the new ip against my expectations from my last report and it matches00:12
jukethat should be easy then00:12
jukeops here could also ban it00:12
jukeif there are any00:13
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satmdreported this one to the responsible isp00:30
satmdtook me a while to verify things00:31
* lbt notes the ips and names vary :(00:31
AL13Nyes, i've seen it too00:31
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satmd'whois' is a powerful tool00:31
satmdworking for an isp myself, too00:31
AL13Nthough a lot of ips return00:31
AL13Nthis is more of a job for freenode in general, imho00:32
satmdthey've been bcc'ed by their request00:32
lbtif you have some IPs that you think are worth banning then let us know  - but yes, I think it's a freenode thing mainly00:32
* lbt not an irc guru :)00:33
AL13Ni mentioned a few of them on #freenode00:33
satmd*when* *I* decide an IP is worth banning, it will end up on blacklist00:33
satmdI'm a fellow irc-security member00:33
satmd:)00:33
AL13Nof course, alot of these people are victims too :-)00:33
Yanielas if IPv4 addresses weren't scarce enough already00:33
satmdthere's not much individuals can do but to collect ips00:34
Yanielyeah00:34
* lbt starts a collection ... donations anyone?00:34
AL13Nthis 'll be lovely when we're using ipv6 a lot more00:34
lbt127.0.0.2 is my favourite so far00:34
satmdeither report them by yourself (if you feel safe in wording and phrasing things) or let someone handle these00:34
AL13Nlbt: :-)00:34
lbtyeah - too much device flashing tonight ... just a bit crazy00:35
satmdI've grown old in the security business, I just report them and CC the affected service00:35
satmdbut ideally, you just get a freenode staff onto it00:35
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lbtjpnurmi: Venemo... irc seems to forget my network setting port value :(00:38
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Venemolbt: can you please open a ticket on GitHub for this?00:52
Venemolbt: note that some settings stuff has been messed up by the latest OS update, so that might be the cause00:53
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satmdbtw... wireless proxy settings...01:04
satmddo they make any sense to anyone in here?01:04
satmdthey seem to get either ignored or refused for me01:05
satmdI never got them to work :(01:06
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Ana23 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6904:05
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etwec_oooo videos :D04:05
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Adrianna20 Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos6906:05
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etwec_from what i can tell the ip addresses are the same.06:06
m4g0gmorning porno! =)06:06
etwec_for ana and adrianna20 at least06:07
m4g0gban by ip!06:08
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suySailfishOS uses a Qt Compositor, right? No need for weston because wayland is the protocol, and with a QtCompositor server, the clients speak to it without caring if is weston or something else. Is that so?07:41
tbrIIRC yes. look at lipstick. it's also in Nemo07:42
suyNah, too low level for me. I wanted to know if I got the theory right. :)  I was going to mention it on the qt-interest list.07:44
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Stskeepssuy: correct, we use qtwayland/qtcompositor07:45
Stskeepsweston is 'just' a reference composito07:45
Stskeepsr07:45
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suyStskeeps: thank you. Another Sailfish theorical question. Alien dalvik layer is also possible thanks to libhybris? Or it could run in more standard Linux systems (I've watched your talk at fosdem recently ^_^).07:57
Stskeepsno07:57
Stskeepsunrelated07:57
suyOK.07:58
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Stskeeps(i can't really go into more detail than that)07:58
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suyStskeeps: ok, don't worry. :)  I know alien dalvik is proprietary and stuff, so I don't care much.08:01
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suyI'm mostly curious if what jolla has achieved will be seen in possible competitors (e.g. ubuntu). I'm obviously more simpathetic to jolla. And I suppose the fact that having libhybris sources is not enough to make cool things happen (like supporting android apps and drivers). Some degree of expertise is needed.08:03
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Stskeepsthere's a lot of know-how in that08:04
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Stskeepswe practically have the people who wrote qml08:04
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suyTha'ts what I've read, yes. I saw Bea Lam's name in some copyright header the other day. Which is pretty cool, because I remember I drooled with one of her talks introducing Qt Quick (I don't remember the year, but it was quite impressive at that time). Lorn explained several .au people transitioned to Jolla. Good for everyone I suppose. :)08:20
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gabriel9|workany updates about accounnts api?09:15
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gabriel9|workaccounts api*09:16
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Waiteehello09:26
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Waiteecoderus: the scrolling feature on mitäkuuluu is annoying :(09:57
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leszekhi10:21
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mornfallhmm, I don't understand how to make OBS build anything12:24
mornfalland jolla's repositories have broken qt dev packages12:25
mornfalland the SDK is just broken12:25
mornfall*sigh*12:25
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kaltsimornfall: broken packages? sdk broken how?13:01
mornfallwell, there's no source for sdk, which makes it really hard to install on not-quite-conventional systems13:03
mornfallpkcon install qt5-qtopengl-devel -> Fatal error: qt5-qtopengl-devel-5.1.0+git30-1.11.2.armv7hl requires libEGL-devel, but this requirement cannot be provided13:05
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lumionHey! I'm new with QML and C++ but I would like to learn how to develop applications for especially Sailfish.13:07
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lumionI've studied QML already and now I'm moving into how to integrate C++ to QML. I decided that I start with a simple where I create a custom component and use it to record audio. So I only need two functions (record, stop) for it.13:08
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lumionOn "record.h" file I use 'class AudioRecorder : public QObject { ...' and inside it there's 'public:' which holds 'AudioRecorder (QObject* parent = 0);' and it gives me this following error: "error: default argument for parameter of type 'QObject*' has type 'double'". Any idea what might be wrong?13:09
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leszeklumion: I think you need to show us the code which does not work for you in a pastebin13:13
lumionYeah, working on it.. Just come problems with uploading stuff to Dropbox but give me a second and I'll give you a link. :)13:14
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lumionOkay, so here's the .h file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/42snsqp3c2hfkjn/record.h / .cpp file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qhqlzonskjbd8b/record.cpp / Compile output: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cb4hhhpo7py4gsw/Compile%20output%20%28audio-recorder%29.txt13:19
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ln-lumion: the default argument has double as type.13:20
lumionYes, I do know that because the error says so but like I said I'm new with this stuff so I have no idea what to do.. I tried to google it but couldn't find anything that helps... :/13:21
mornfallln-: 0.0 is not the same as 013:22
mornfalleh13:22
mornfalllumion: ^^13:22
mornfallln-: 0 can be a pointer, 0.0 can't13:22
lumionOh..13:22
mornfalldamnit13:22
mornfallln-: sorry :-)13:22
lumionDarnit... I don't know why I've put that '.0' in there. Thanks! :)13:23
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smurfyHi, i have a question regarding a rejected app. mine got rejected because it writes to /home/nemo/.config/smurfy  .. the thing which actual writes is QSettings. should i store my settings at /usr/share/appname instead? which seams a bit silly in my eyes13:50
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Turskismurfy: https://harbour.jolla.com/faq#2.13.013:58
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lumionHmm, I can't get this qmlRegisterType thing work to create my own custom components...? I think it has changed since the SDK updates because the whole main.cpp file is different now.14:19
lumionI also couldn't find any documentation about this on https://sailfishos.org/14:19
lumionAnd the one I tried from http://qt-project.org/ doesn't work...14:19
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radekplumion: hi, i did something like that here: https://github.com/radekp/jolla-battery-monitor/blob/master/src/battery-monitor.cpp14:22
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radekplumion: basicaly it makes the Graph component usable in qml - it was quite nicely documented somehere, let me check...14:23
lumionAh, thank you.. I'll give it a try. :)14:24
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radekplumion: maybe this is the doc: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qtqml-cppintegration-definetypes.html14:25
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smurfyTurski: yea the rejecting message linked to the same faq but  a different topic. so it seams that i need to can't simple use QSettings, i need to manually overwrite the path based on QStandardPaths , i'm not sure what the base path will be (can't test right now) but mainly it uses the applicationName as suffix instead of the organisation name.14:28
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Turskismurfy: see also this https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/libsailfishapp/blob/master/docs/documentation.mdown14:30
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lumionradekp: It gives me 3 errors. [1] 'qmlRegisterType' was not declared in this scope. [2] expected primary-expression before '>' token. [3] left operand of comma operator has no effect [-Wunused-value].14:31
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smurfyTurski: Ok i guess my problem is, that i don't simple use QSettings(); but with organisation and applicationName as arguments. (because they differ based on platform), thank you i will have a look after i get home14:34
lumionradekp_: It gives me 3 errors. [1] 'qmlRegisterType' was not declared in this scope. [2] expected primary-expression before '>' token. [3] left operand of comma operator has no effect [-Wunused-value].14:35
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lumionYup, manage to solve it already. Forgo to include <QtQml>14:36
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Andy80I see very bad times for WhatsApp on SailfishOS https://raw.github.com/github/dmca/master/2014-02-12-WhatsApp.md16:57
Waiteewhy?16:58
Andy80check the link16:58
Waiteeyes i know but whatsapp api is open source16:58
Andy80no way16:58
Waiteeand mitäkuuluu doesnt use any code plagiated from whatsapp16:58
Andy80since when is opensource?16:58
Waiteethe api is awailable to everyone16:59
Waiteeavailable*16:59
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Andy80it's the first time I hear that WhatsApp API is public... really16:59
Waiteewell how do you think it's been even possible to build mitäkuuluu17:00
Andy80could you please point me to the official WhatsApp API then?17:00
Andy80I really can't find the link17:00
Waiteethe reason why mitäkuuluu hasnt been taken down is because coderus hasnt stolen his code or misused trademarked stuff like whatsapp logo17:00
Waiteehmm17:01
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Andy80nobody stole any code.... all the implementations that are available around are revere engineering17:01
Andy80reverse17:01
Waiteei havent done anything with whatsapp api myself so i have no idea how things really go, you should ask coderus why mitäkuuluu hasnt been taken down17:02
Andy80and that's not an official/allowed API17:02
Waiteeokay17:02
Andy80why do you say that there is an official public API then :D ?17:02
Waiteethats what i thought :D17:02
Andy80I'm curious really...17:02
Andy80;)17:02
Waiteeapparently im wrong17:02
StskeepsAndy80: without being a lawyer..17:02
Waitee:D17:02
StskeepsAndy80: the DMCA is rather on the trademark usage17:03
Andy80Stskeeps, they say "unauthorized use of WhatsApp APIs, software, and/or services"17:03
Andy80so it's not just about the images, trademark etc...17:03
Waiteewell most of those use whatsapp name and logo whitout permission17:03
Waiteewithout17:04
Waiteedamn typos17:04
Waiteehttps://twitter.com/iCODeRUS/status/43391281399660953617:05
Waiteei have no whatsapp sources in my repo, because of that its not affected :)17:05
Waitee" "17:06
Waitee-coderus17:06
Andy80well...17:06
Waiteethats all i know about it17:06
Andy80this doesn't mean that they cannot force Jolla to remove the client from their appstore17:06
Waiteemitäkuuluu isnt in the store is it?17:07
Stskeepsit's not even there in the first place..17:07
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Andrilhello all17:07
Andy80well, last time I got it from openrepos, that's true... I did think it landed there in the mean time17:07
Andy80anyway... I'm not defending them, I'm just worried about this17:08
Waiteei think it's actually good that warehouse isnt available from the jolla store17:08
Waiteejolla store represents jolla so any "evil : D" apps such as packet sniffers, network mappers etc shouldnt be available from there17:09
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Waiteeand hi Andril17:10
Waitee:D17:10
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Andy80by the way... I'm not against them... I'm against lazy people who keep using that bugged and unsecure platform to exchange messages and I'm forced to use it as well if I want to communicate with them :(17:11
Waiteewell you're using irc17:11
Waiteeit's as unsecure as messaging on internet can get17:11
slatedidn't facebook say they will save the brand and api?17:11
slateOr did I get something wrong17:12
mikmaand they also are planning on adding ads in?17:12
Waiteeno idea17:12
slateused to be commercial anyways17:12
Andy80here on IRC it's a public conversation :)17:12
slatenow its 1 year free.17:12
Andy80you can print, reproduce, publish wherever you want17:12
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Andy80and I also think that logs are publicly available...17:13
Andy80private messaging is another different story17:13
Andy80(they won't add any ads, and I also bet they will put it completly free, no annual fee)17:13
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Andy80(they're "just" interested in the content of your messages so they can target you better with ads)17:14
Waiteewhy wouldnt they add ads17:14
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Andy80because their ads are already on facebook :)17:14
Andy80they just need better targeting17:14
Waiteelol17:14
Sail0ris there any chatsecure client for sailfish?17:14
EztranUgh, it's no surprise that a data-hoarding company like FB wanted Whatsapp.17:14
Andy80Waitee, explain me your "lol" please :)17:15
WaiteeAndy80: think of it: you've just bought a chat client company with hundreds of millions of users17:15
Waiteethink of putting ads to only the android and ios versions17:15
Andy80they have bought the possibility to read the CONTENT of what these 450 milion people are writing...17:15
Waiteeyeah17:16
Andy80this content is worth MORE than putting ads on a client17:16
Waiteebut really gathering the data of those messages is time an resource consuming17:16
Waiteeif you put ads on it17:16
Andy80that's what they do :D17:16
Waiteeit's instant money17:16
Waiteeka-ching17:16
EztranNah, just use keywords. FB already do it.17:17
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EztranInstant targeted advertising to everyone ever.17:17
Andy80just keywords?17:17
Waiteebut there isnt any idea to leave it without ads17:17
EztranFrom peoples' messages.17:17
Andy80do you think that FB ads is only based on keywords?17:17
Waiteeexcept "being nice to customers"17:17
Waitee:D17:17
EztranNope, but they sure make up a large amount.17:17
Andy80it's only a small percentage...17:17
Waiteefb ads is based on keywords, locations, your likes, your connections, your friends likes17:18
Waiteeat least those17:18
mikmahttp://foilchat.com/17:18
Andy80they consider "Likes", interactions, what you comment, what you read etc...17:18
mikmastill waiting for that to go live17:18
EztranFB are creepy as heck, 's why Whatsapp is a good pickup.17:18
Waitee:D17:19
Waiteebut really i dont think of a reason why facebook wouldnt put ads on whatsapp17:19
EztranUnfortunately in the social networking stakes, their primary competitor is Google, who aren't really any less creepy.17:19
Waiteethey still can read the conversations etc17:19
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Waiteeexcept google actually does some useful apps17:20
EztranFair point.17:20
Waiteeyoutube, gmaps, gmail and android are very nice imo17:20
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Waiteegoogle is imo the only big corporation who is trying to develop17:23
Waiteewhich*17:23
zuhWaitee: They'll probably wait that whatsapp hits enough user base and then push ads there. Doing it now would probably shoo lots of users away.17:24
Waiteethey've put millions in the development of google glass to revolutionise mobile tech17:24
kenguthey will integrate it to facebook chat17:24
Waiteezuh: 1/6 of earths population isnt enough for pushing ads on it? :D17:25
Waiteeokay there will be thousands of people dumping whatsapp "because ads" if it happens17:25
Waiteebut still what is thousands if you have a user base of 400 million17:25
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Waiteeit's like if you had 400 000 customers and you bring a new kinda business model17:27
Waiteedo you really care for 10 or 20 people starting to boycott you?17:27
Waitee:D17:27
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zuh400 million users isn't 1/6th of earths population :D17:30
Jpelhow about adopting to telegram.org?17:31
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Waiteezuh: according to science earths population is 3 000 million17:32
Jpelseems to be open, encrypted and free api...17:32
Waiteeso it's a little less than 1/617:32
Waiteejust throwing numbers here17:32
zuhWaitee: Ok, so not all humans are counted as people then ;)17:33
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Waiteewell for example the political party "Perussuomalaiset" doesnt belong to the group "humans"17:33
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Andy80I've tried Telegram on my WP, it seems to work nicely.... but I only have 1 friend using it :P17:38
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Jpeltell friends to switch client.. ;-)17:42
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coderusWaitee: you mean fastscroll in conversation?17:47
Waiteei guess yea17:47
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Waiteemostly when i try to scroll to the bottom it jumps to the start of the day17:48
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coderusscroll in center or left side17:49
coderusi'll try to tweak press delay before fastscroll starting17:49
Waitee:D17:49
Waiteeswitch in the settings to turn it on or off :317:50
coderusand guys, mitakuuluu not in harbour because of many useful hacks inside, which QA can't accept :D17:50
Waitee:D17:50
coderusWaitee: error #9001: too-many-switches17:50
Waitee:(17:50
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coderusand yeah, i dont even try to publish "lite" version to make QA happy, because of DCMA17:51
jukecoderus, what kind of hacks?17:51
coderusjuke: first of all DBus daemons17:51
coderusand autostart17:52
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jukeis the plan that harbour will eventually support those things?17:54
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coderusno idea. i'm not watching it17:55
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Waiteecoderus: does quickscroll activate when i longpress on the right side of the screen17:57
coderusWaitee: it have no delay17:58
Waiteeoh17:59
Waiteewell it's a nice feature but can you fix it so it doesnt jump to the start of the day when i accidentally activate it :D18:00
Waitee:318:00
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coderusyeah, i'll start my sailfish sdk after delivering my jolla :D18:04
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slatedeveloper device incoming?18:07
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coderusyup18:07
slateWell developed. :) congrats18:07
coderusin couple of weeks :D18:07
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slateI hope N9(50) port gets done anyway.18:08
slate:P18:08
coderusyup18:08
coderusin half of year or so :D18:08
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slateI hope in 6 months the dead pixels are gone from my screen then.18:12
slateha.18:12
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Zoe18 You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos6920:16
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lumion_Heya! I was asking a little help earlier today with QAudioRecorder. Now I ran into another problem which I can not solve by myself...20:38
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lumion_"QAudioRecorder setEncodingSettings(const QAudioEncoderSettings &, const QVideoEncoderSettings &, const QString &)" is the one which is causing the problem now.20:39
lumion_Here you can see the record.cpp file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/0qhqlzonskjbd8b/record.cpp and here's the record.h file: https://www.dropbox.com/s/42snsqp3c2hfkjn/record.h20:40
lumion_Now, if I remove the line 26 from record.cpp my QML creates a new file which is set up directly from QML. But the length of it is 0, no matter how long I try to record. And also it doesn't show any bitrate, sample rate, or any other information of the new recorded file.20:41
lumion_If I keep this line 26 in my record.cpp file it won't even create the file.20:42
lumion_And QtCreator does not give me any kind of errors at any point.20:42
lumion_Any ideas?20:42
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coderussorry never used recorder21:34
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Morpog_PCIs there a way to check if coversize is large or small?21:38
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-holmes.freenode.net- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots -- please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup21:53
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katy26 Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos6922:05
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celeron55_how can i debug an android application that crashes?23:57
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celeron55_i "happen" to have the sources to it and it doesn't crash in an android emulator23:58
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