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| Isabella18 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 00:04 |
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| Sandy25 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 04:04 |
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| Hannah27 | You can find funny videos here. http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 06:04 |
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| m4g0g | guys, where do you take images for your applications? | 07:58 |
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| Hannah24 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 08:06 |
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| m4g0g | lol | 08:07 |
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| zuh | m4g0g: If you don't like Hannah's videos, you can also find few screenshot applications in the store | 08:22 |
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| m4g0g | zuh: but it doesn't help me with adding icon to my application. This is only one stops adding my app to openrepos | 08:25 |
| ln- | if/when i sign up for Harbour, is the user account what other people will see as the author in the store, or is there another setting for that? | 08:25 |
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| zuh | m4g0g: oh, I thought you meant screenshots. Dunno where people get theirs but I created my own from couple of photos... | 08:29 |
| m4g0g | there are two most complex things in app development - title for application and icon | 08:29 |
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| hamlatzis | is this a good place to ask about a problem I have using SDL2 on sailfishos? | 09:01 |
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| Yaniel | sure | 09:01 |
| hamlatzis | I want to port my game that uses SDL2 libraries from other mobile platforms to sailfishos, but I cannot setup the IDE to compile it. It doesn't recognize for instance #include "SDL.h" | 09:03 |
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| tbr | did you install the SDL packages? | 09:03 |
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| hamlatzis | aren't they already installed? If I ssh into the developer image and call "zypper se sdl" I get information on all SDL2 libraries (SDL2, SDL2_image, SDL2_mixer, SDL2_ttf, etc) | 09:05 |
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| tbr | also -dev? | 09:07 |
| hamlatzis | let me check again and come back to you with this | 09:08 |
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| hamlatzis | for the libraries SDL2, SDL2_image, SDL2_mixer and SDL2_ttf that I want to use is get that inside the developer image exist: package, srcpackage, debuginfo, debugsource and devel packages | 09:13 |
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| hamlatzis | so I think everything is already installed | 09:13 |
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| m4g0g | why do you think that your ide doesn't recognize this include? | 09:19 |
| m4g0g | show us ur project file, pls. | 09:19 |
| m4g0g | hamlatzis: ^^ | 09:19 |
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| kaltsi | hamlatzis: the sdl2's are not installed by default | 09:23 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: you will need to add them to your build target | 09:23 |
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| kaltsi | hamlatzis: easy way is to add into your project's yaml or spec file a 'buildrequires' with the sdl2 -devel package (whatever it's proper name is) .. then when you rebuild your software, it will get installed | 09:24 |
| hamlatzis | first of all when I hit compile I get an error message SDL.h No such file or directory, that's how I know it doesn't recognise SDL | 09:25 |
| kaltsi | yes that's how I know it's not installed for you | 09:25 |
| hamlatzis | also I cannot create a cmake project because the QtCreator IDE reports that doesn't know which kits to use | 09:25 |
| kaltsi | which host do you have linux/mac/windows? | 09:26 |
| hamlatzis | so I selected to create a non qt application with qmake | 09:26 |
| kaltsi | ok that's not sailfish sdk and outside the scope of anything here | 09:26 |
| m4g0g | hamlatzis: try to use #include <SDL/SDL.h> | 09:26 |
| hamlatzis | I've just opened it and I'm not sure if I like what I see because it tries to create a console | 09:26 |
| hamlatzis | TEMPLATE = app | 09:27 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: if you want to create sailfish apps then you need to create a sailfish project | 09:27 |
| hamlatzis | CONFIG += console | 09:27 |
| kaltsi | your sdk is not set up correctly at the moment | 09:27 |
| hamlatzis | CONFIG -= app_bundle | 09:27 |
| hamlatzis | CONFIG -= qt | 09:27 |
| hamlatzis | SOURCES += main.cpp | 09:27 |
| Yaniel | THE PASTE IS TAKING OVER THE INTERNET!!11!! | 09:27 |
| hamlatzis | I just want to create a game that runs on sailfishos using SDL and opengle | 09:27 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: just stop please now and follow instructions if you want to create it for sailfish | 09:28 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: 1) is your host linux/windows/mac? | 09:28 |
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| hamlatzis | windows | 09:28 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: ok exit qtcreator now and then go and remove c:/usersd/yourname/appdata/roaming/SailfishAlpha3 directory | 09:28 |
| kaltsi | then restart qtcreator again.. you should see the sailfish project then | 09:29 |
| kaltsi | sorry c:/users/yourname.. | 09:29 |
| hamlatzis | have kept everything with default values during installation and have added as home folder my workspace c:\SailfishOS-workspace | 09:29 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: if you don't see the kits then your sdk is not set up correctly | 09:30 |
| Yaniel | in cmake? | 09:30 |
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| kaltsi | can you find the SailfishAlpha3 directory? | 09:30 |
| Yaniel | I don't think cmake has ever heard of sailfish | 09:30 |
| kaltsi | cmake is fine | 09:30 |
| Yaniel | is it? | 09:30 |
| Yaniel | nice | 09:30 |
| kaltsi | first we need to fix hamlatzis' environment | 09:31 |
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| hamlatzis | just a moment I'm searching for the SailfishAlpha3 folder, because under windows xp there is not c:/users/... it has moved somewhere at c:\documents and settings | 09:32 |
| kaltsi | oh? | 09:32 |
| hamlatzis | found it at C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\SailfishAlpha3 | 09:33 |
| kaltsi | ok that could be a problem itself.. the current sdk does not work well if there are spaces in the directories | 09:33 |
| kaltsi | hamlatzis: let's try anyways.. so have you exited from qtcreator? if so, please remove that SailfishAlpha3 directory and then start Qtcreator again | 09:33 |
| hamlatzis | ha ha ha similar problems with BB10 and bada but at least for them the default folders where ok | 09:34 |
| kaltsi | then after you have started it and select a new project, does it offer you a sailfish project? | 09:34 |
| hamlatzis | exited and renamed the folder, now starting the IDE again | 09:34 |
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| hamlatzis | the option for sailfish application I had it even without deleting the folder, but it adds Qt support | 09:36 |
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| hamlatzis | but even this way I get no sdl.h or sdl/sdl.h file exist (depending on where I try to find the sdl.h file) | 09:38 |
| kaltsi | did you add the buildrequires to your project? | 09:38 |
| kaltsi | it is not there by default, you must do something to install it | 09:38 |
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| kaltsi | if you create any other kind of a project than sailfish project with the qtcreator project wizard, then you are not using the sailfish environment .. by default it creates a Qt/QML project for you, but you can change anything/everything in the files to suit you | 09:39 |
| m4g0g | we need instructions about using cmake for sailfish development | 09:41 |
| kaltsi | just use it . if you know how to use it, just use it | 09:41 |
| kaltsi | in your spec file you have the %build part which specifies how to call your project's makefile | 09:42 |
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| hamlatzis | ok thank you all I'll start playing around more and If I have more question I'll get back to you | 09:49 |
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| Sophie19 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 10:05 |
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| Yaniel | just.. gtfo | 10:05 |
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| Yaniel | no tits here please | 10:05 |
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| coderus | morning tits :D | 10:30 |
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| leinir | coderus: totally! Best kind *nods* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Tit_aka.jpg | 10:32 |
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| Hartzi | Yaniel: why so conservative? | 10:43 |
| Yaniel | leinir: okay that kind I can accept | 10:43 |
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| zmo | hi! | 10:55 |
| Yaniel | ...even at work | 10:55 |
| zmo | kimmoli told me on #jollamobile you're talking about tits, so here am I :-> </kidding> | 10:56 |
| jussi | zmo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Blue_Tit_aka.jpg yep! | 10:56 |
| Yaniel | well the bird-feeding-season is well underway | 10:56 |
| zmo | (of course he he meant "this", and I was talking about the atmosphere page one swipe away from home screen whereas useful features were 3/4 gestures away) | 10:56 |
| Yaniel | what is the atmosphere page? | 10:57 |
| zmo | jussi - ahah :-) | 10:57 |
| ln- | by atmosphere do you mean ambience? | 10:57 |
| Yaniel | you mean lockscreen? | 10:57 |
| zmo | oh sorry | 10:57 |
| Yaniel | or ambience quick select | 10:57 |
| zmo | had my jollaphone yesterday, still getting used to the vocabulary ;-) | 10:57 |
| Yaniel | (I tend to forget about that one as I only have one favourited ambience atm) | 10:57 |
| kimmoli | zmo: i would like to have moist atmosphere on my jolla | 10:58 |
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| zmo | kimmoli - I'd prefer not :-) | 11:03 |
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| zmo | kimmoli - don't want to get my jolla rusty | 11:03 |
| zmo | so, before I start complaining about UX/Usability and stuff… (I'm french, it's in my DNA to complain :-p) | 11:04 |
| zmo | is there any documentation start point about the CLI tool set I can play with on sailfishos ? | 11:05 |
| zmo | I've seen that mc-tool thing, I guess there is the systemd stuff around | 11:05 |
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| Yaniel | yeah the os is systemd-based | 11:06 |
| Yaniel | and as for the toolset... prety much all you can get to compile for arm | 11:06 |
| zmo | I mean the sailfish specific stuff | 11:07 |
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| lbt | m4g0g: for cmake you can change your yaml file to have Builder: cmake - but that may not work well with the SDK - try it | 11:11 |
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| zmo | hum… how do I enable root shell access on my jolla? | 11:16 |
| Stskeeps | devel-su | 11:16 |
| zmo | nice, thanks | 11:16 |
| zmo | why not install sudo? | 11:17 |
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| Stskeeps | long story | 11:18 |
| zmo | and is there a packaging system so I can install tools? | 11:19 |
| zmo | I thought there would be zypper like in meego… | 11:19 |
| flux | pkcon | 11:23 |
| zmo | thakns | 11:23 |
| flux | btw, you don't need to sudo for it | 11:24 |
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| zmo | is there a place where I can find the dbus APIs for the jolla applications? | 11:39 |
| coderus | which one? | 11:39 |
| zmo | well, as many as possible | 11:39 |
| zmo | I want to RTFM :-) | 11:39 |
| coderus | most of system applications are nemomobile, not jolla itself | 11:39 |
| coderus | you can easily google it | 11:39 |
| juke | is there other phones that are sold with sailfishos? | 11:41 |
| Bysmyyr | no | 11:41 |
| coderus | i think some of N9's was sold with SailfishOS :D | 11:42 |
| Bysmyyr | but not official | 11:42 |
| coderus | of course :) | 11:42 |
| coderus | why you thinking company would officially support sailfishos to other phones? | 11:43 |
| zumbi | can N9 be reinstalled with sailfishos? | 11:43 |
| coderus | jolla need to sell own phones for profit :) | 11:43 |
| coderus | other companies wont pay to jolla for supporting it phones | 11:44 |
| coderus | and jolla wouldnt support other phones officially "just for fun" | 11:44 |
| coderus | its community activity :) | 11:44 |
| coderus | zumbi: what you mean by "reinstall"? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: http://www.talouselama.fi/nakoislehti/jolla%20ceo%20you%20will%20soon%20be%20able%20turn%20your%20android%20device%20into%20a%20sailfish%20device/a2218386 | 11:47 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: still no android apps on that sailfish, though, right ? | 11:53 |
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| Stskeeps | jussi: i shall refrain from commenting under threat of walking the plank -- and there's sharks down there! | 11:54 |
| jussi | Stskeeps: hehe, I figured something like that would be the answer :D | 11:54 |
| tbr | sharks with lazorz! | 11:54 |
| jussi | tbr: even more scary! | 11:54 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: is it official support? means peoples doing this getting profit? :) | 12:05 |
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| zumbi | coderus: replace harmattan with sailfishos | 12:10 |
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| Armadillo | hi | 12:58 |
| Armadillo | Acce the combobox issue we discussed yesterday gets even more weird, maybe you remember it | 13:00 |
| Armadillo | I added a textarea and insert the currentIndex into it before the currentindex change, after the change and for debugging I set currentIndex when click on the textarea itself and also post the currentIndex from the combobox to the textareas text | 13:01 |
| Armadillo | on start currentIndex is 0 as expected, after the automatic change it is 1, but the visual value is the one from index 0 | 13:02 |
| Armadillo | when i click on the textarea, which changes the currentIndex to 2, the index changes and the visual value, too | 13:02 |
| Armadillo | what the hell... | 13:02 |
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| Armadillo | it seems there's a problem with the combobox events I'll do some more testing, maybe I can workaround it if I use another event than onCompleted | 13:04 |
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| juke | what happens if app is in Harbour QA and i submit another version? | 13:58 |
| Armadillo | the qa will be overwritten and the waiting time starts from 0 | 14:01 |
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| juke | :/ | 14:06 |
| juke | queue would be nicer | 14:06 |
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| Armadillo | yes, but currently there's none | 14:07 |
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| juke | only 26 hours left so perhaps i can wait with this | 14:08 |
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| Armadillo | I think your update won't make it before friday | 14:21 |
| Armadillo | for my updates it never released within 48 hours, always between 65 and 75 hours | 14:22 |
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| juke | last time it took <30 h | 14:23 |
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| juke | <50 i mean | 14:24 |
| Armadillo | that's fast :) | 14:24 |
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| juke | perhaps i was lucky | 14:24 |
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| coderus | zumbi: you can do it. but current adaptation for sailfishos isnt complete. | 17:40 |
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| zumbi | ok | 17:42 |
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| bentz | hi | 19:26 |
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| Mya29 | Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 20:04 |
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| Aaltoni | JUJames_: broh | 20:07 |
| JUJames_ | Aaltoni: hey there :D | 20:08 |
| Aaltoni | JUJames_: i got tons of sailfish app ideas but as u know i aint no dev :D | 20:09 |
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| JUJames_ | Aaltoni: neither am I but we have saildev and others :D | 20:11 |
| Aaltoni | JUJames_: yeah thats true :) and btw i freaking lobe those livecovers ;) | 20:11 |
| JUJames_ | hell yea ;) | 20:12 |
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| Morpog_PC | Then you may like a sneak peak on tweetian cover in next update :) http://abload.de/img/20140219211403ulkh4.png | 20:16 |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: please add some sensible margins to the content, it looks quite... unsetting | 20:17 |
| Morpog_PC | venemo, it has padding small | 20:18 |
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| Venemo | Morpog_PC: yes, too small | 20:18 |
| Morpog_PC | with more it starts to look odd with only a few words on it... | 20:18 |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: take a look at the built-in apps (or IRC on your screenshot) and see how much padding they have | 20:19 |
| Venemo | the last 3 tweets is enough, I think | 20:19 |
| Venemo | see also https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html#lack-of-padding | 20:19 |
| Morpog_PC | well, tehre is no lack of padding :) | 20:20 |
| Morpog_PC | it's just small | 20:20 |
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| juke | paddingLarge is too much imo on side for covers | 20:21 |
| Venemo | well, it looks ugly with the current padding | 20:21 |
| Morpog_PC | i kinda like it though Venemo | 20:21 |
| Venemo | like I said, look at any of the built-in apps | 20:21 |
| Venemo | look at the padding of the messaging app, for example | 20:22 |
| Morpog_PC | sure Venemo but none of those have to show lots of text | 20:22 |
| Morpog_PC | lets have a try, wait a sec | 20:22 |
| Venemo | yes | 20:22 |
| juke | what's the point of have three different padding sizes if only Large can be used? | 20:22 |
| Venemo | conclusion: don't show lots of text on the cover | 20:22 |
| Venemo | juke: the other padding sizes are for different places | 20:23 |
| Morpog_PC | venemo, well then the whole cover would be useless, i always peek from other apps to see latest tweets | 20:23 |
| Morpog_PC | also the margins were done by veskuh if i remember correctly | 20:24 |
| Morpog_PC | I haven't changed them | 20:24 |
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| Venemo | Morpog_PC: on the cover, I'd just show number of unread tweets, number of unread interactions and number of unread DMs | 20:25 |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: that's just my opinion though | 20:25 |
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| Venemo | nobody's gonna read real tweets from the cover | 20:25 |
| Venemo | especially when you have >4 apps open | 20:25 |
| * Morpog_PC feel not like nobody :D | 20:25 | |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: sure, but can you read the tweets even from the tiny cover? | 20:26 |
| Morpog_PC | yep, not easily but yep :) | 20:27 |
| Morpog_PC | I tend to have not more than 4 apps open most of the times | 20:27 |
| Venemo | I have ~ 7 apps open all the time | 20:28 |
| Venemo | email, calendar, people, phone, browser are open all the time | 20:28 |
| Venemo | irc, tweetian most of the time | 20:28 |
| Venemo | I can't comfortably read the text on the tweetian cover. font size too small, text too cluttered | 20:29 |
| Morpog_PC | well, as I said not easily readable :D | 20:29 |
| Venemo | ah, I forgot, settings is also open all the time as I frequently turn wifi, mobile data and bluetooth on/off | 20:30 |
| Morpog_PC | I can make an alternative version and propose a PR and let veskuh and situ decide | 20:30 |
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| Venemo | well, this is not the only place where tweetian breaks the sailfish guidelines | 20:30 |
| Morpog_PC | sure, most of the stuff is being worked on | 20:31 |
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| Armadillo | oh great | 20:31 |
| Morpog_PC | you can help us | 20:31 |
| Venemo | also suffers from this: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/sailfish-application-pitfalls.html#using-buttons-instead-of-platform-style-gestures | 20:31 |
| Armadillo | only 36 hours for the last update :) | 20:31 |
| Venemo | Armadillo: what update? :O | 20:31 |
| Morpog_PC | venemo, there is an Issue open for this from me | 20:31 |
| Armadillo | of my app ;) | 20:32 |
| Armadillo | 36h qa | 20:32 |
| Venemo | what's your app? :) | 20:32 |
| Armadillo | TaskList | 20:32 |
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| Venemo | ah | 20:32 |
| Morpog_PC | Venemo, https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian/issues/55 | 20:32 |
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| Venemo | yeah | 20:33 |
| Venemo | well | 20:33 |
| Morpog_PC | I guess it will be solved in the future | 20:34 |
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| Venemo | with all due respect, if a guy works full-time on a platform and then writes an app which breaks the platform guidelines, it feels a bit flaky | 20:34 |
| Morpog_PC | mmmh venemo, bigger font and maximumlinecount upped to 3 doesn't look good at all :( | 20:35 |
| juke | you guys are waay too anal about the guidelines | 20:35 |
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| Venemo | Morpog_PC: yes, I suppose that's even uglier | 20:36 |
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| Venemo | [21:23] <Venemo> Morpog_PC: on the cover, I'd just show number of unread tweets, number of unread interactions and number of unread DMs | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | oh, must have missed that :) | 20:36 |
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| Venemo | I imagine it like having the 3 icons next to each other and a number above them | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | hmm quite minimalistic though | 20:37 |
| Venemo | yeah | 20:38 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe I have a look on that on weekend | 20:38 |
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| Venemo | juke: I believe it's everyone's best interest to respect the guidelines. advantage to your users: your app feels more "at home" and therefore they will be more likely to use it more. advantage to you: your users will like it more, so you'll be more popular | 20:39 |
| Venemo | that being said, I believe there are exceptions | 20:40 |
| Venemo | for example, games | 20:40 |
| Morpog_PC | well Venemo rules are there to break is an very old saying | 20:41 |
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| Venemo | I remember when we first developed apps for windows phone - it was the same story, nobody understood the UI guidelines. but then, users just 1-starred the apps that were ugly, so people started to adapt to the guidelines pretty soon | 20:42 |
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| walokra | you would trust the users to know what is good UI... | 21:41 |
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| coderus | i dont like silica guidelines for 100% | 21:44 |
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| coderus | i just cant follow it for 100% in mitakuuluu project | 21:45 |
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| coderus | it breaks some of application functions | 21:45 |
| Hartzi | like what? | 21:49 |
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| coderus | like fast access to menu | 22:03 |
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| Tiffany18 | Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.do/my_videos69 | 22:04 |
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| juke | is mitakuuluu in harbour? | 22:07 |
| Morpog_PC | no | 22:08 |
| juke | is there some commandline tool for openrepos? | 22:09 |
| juke | does it integrate with pkcon? | 22:10 |
| Morpog_PC | sure, just use pkcon or zypper | 22:11 |
| Morpog_PC | or warehouse app | 22:11 |
| juke | thanks | 22:14 |
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| Morpog_PC | Venemo, hmmm http://abload.de/img/sailfishosemulatorl8sq4.png | 22:20 |
| Venemo | Morpog_PC: yeah, you're getting there :) nice stuff | 22:22 |
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| kimmoli | Morpog_PC: +1 | 22:26 |
| suy | facebook to buy whatsapp... http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/02/19/facebook-to-buy-messaging-start-up/ That explains the DMCA takedowns, I suppose. | 22:28 |
| Morpog_PC | mmmh sounds horrible | 22:28 |
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| Yaniel | looks like I won't be needing mitakuuluu after all :/ | 22:37 |
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| noobish | where does the n900 stand on sailfish port? I see N9 is more or less functional from instructions on wiki.maemo.org. | 22:52 |
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| etwec | clear | 22:58 |
| etwec | sorry used to terminal commands. | 22:58 |
| etwec | just learned of sailfish. also saw some pictures of it ported to a nexus 7. how usable is it now? i understand it is still in alpha. | 22:59 |
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| Venemo | etwec: how usabe in general or on nexus7? | 23:16 |
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| etwec | both i suppose | 23:18 |
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| etwec_ | if someone answered my question could you please repeat it? | 23:29 |
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| Yaniel | which one? | 23:30 |
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| etwec_ | how stable/usable is salifish in general and when it is ported to the nexus 7 | 23:30 |
| etwec_ | i imagine the nexus 7 2013 version | 23:30 |
| Yaniel | how usable sailfish is in general? I use my jolla as my main phone without any major problems so far | 23:30 |
| Yaniel | the nexus port is just someone's personal experiments so far afaik | 23:31 |
| etwec_ | ok. awesome. what phones are supported so far? and how good is the android .apk emulation? | 23:32 |
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| Yaniel | the only supported phone so far is the jolla | 23:36 |
| Yaniel | I haven't played much with android apps | 23:36 |
| Yaniel | steam works fine | 23:36 |
| FireFly | Steam? | 23:37 |
| Yaniel | the steam android app | 23:37 |
| FireFly | Oh, there's such a thing | 23:37 |
| FireFly | I didn't know | 23:37 |
| Yaniel | it has chat and store/wishlist browsing | 23:37 |
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| etwec_ | what are phones that are using it well? i saw tests on nexus 4. how about nexus 5? | 23:38 |
| etwec_ | hmmm. i hope this project gains a lot of ground. i mean it has it's own hardware so that is a good sign | 23:40 |
| Yaniel | nothing official | 23:40 |
| Yaniel | in theory if you can get cyanogenmod installed on it you can try | 23:40 |
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| etwec_ | what is sailfish based off of? | 23:40 |
| Yaniel | mer | 23:40 |
| Yaniel | and that is based on meego | 23:41 |
| etwec_ | isnt mer ubuntu's baby? | 23:41 |
| Yaniel | nah | 23:41 |
| Yaniel | that is mir | 23:41 |
| etwec_ | oooh nevermind that is mir | 23:41 |
| artemma | etwec_: Android hardware, lmer for low level software and HW adaptation, nemomobile middleware, Silica controls for UI framework, closed Jolla apps for the apps | 23:41 |
| Yaniel | which is a completely different thing | 23:41 |
| etwec_ | it uses wayland? | 23:41 |
| Yaniel | sailfish does yes | 23:42 |
| noobish | Ubuntu tried ubuntu edge, i think that may be dead now | 23:42 |
| Yaniel | they just did a press release about distribution deals and phones coming suun | 23:42 |
| Yaniel | soon* | 23:42 |
| Yaniel | the edge is dead though | 23:42 |
| etwec_ | is it heavy on resources? | 23:43 |
| Yaniel | sailfish? | 23:43 |
| Yaniel | it wouldn't run on the jolla if it was | 23:43 |
| etwec_ | really? what are the specs for jolla? | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | or it would, but not really that nice to use | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | see jolla.com | 23:44 |
| etwec_ | another question. closed source or opensource for the os? | 23:44 |
| Yaniel | closed UI, other stuff is open | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | except for driver binaries provided by hw vendors | 23:45 |
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| etwec_ | closed ui? can you explain? | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | and they said they are working on opening the UI too | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | merproject.org | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | that is open | 23:45 |
| Yaniel | but it does not have a GUI | 23:45 |
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| etwec_ | that is really cool | 23:46 |
| Yaniel | sailfish adds one | 23:46 |
| etwec_ | that is pretty awesome. i am surprised i havent heard of this project before? | 23:48 |
| etwec_ | .* | 23:49 |
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