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| joonahoi | thp: any idea if python3.3 distributed by mer-tools to be used with pyotherside will be built with ssl any time soon? | 08:07 |
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| joonahoi | i have been developing locally against the self compiled version of 3.3 from github that you (or elleo) linked me to previously | 08:08 |
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| joonahoi | thp: oh, python3-base seems to be in jolla repo now. no ssl still though :/ | 09:16 |
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| Waitee | coderus: after the last update mitäkuuluu gets disconnected randomly and doesnt reconnect unless i reboot the phone | 10:02 |
| Waitee | :( | 10:02 |
| slate | confirmed | 10:03 |
| Waitee | apparently after it has disconnected and i try to close the app it crashes and fails to reopen | 10:03 |
| Waitee | shieet | 10:04 |
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| Sef | Hi | 10:31 |
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| Sef | My Jolla phone got into boot loop. I managed to get it into fastboot mode but now I am unable to telnet into it | 10:32 |
| Stskeeps | Sef: what OS are you on? | 10:34 |
| Stskeeps | and version of the device OS | 10:34 |
| Sef | the latest | 10:34 |
| Sef | I have mac, windows 7 and ubuntu | 10:35 |
| Sef | couldn't telnet with any of those | 10:35 |
| Stskeeps | okay, do the following: | 10:35 |
| Sef | jolla has naamankajärvi | 10:36 |
| Stskeeps | choose the ubuntu one i guess, it's not a virtual machine right? | 10:36 |
| Sef | nope. Normal pc running in my home | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | take out usb cable from device, take out battery from device, put battery back in, hold volume down and power on the device, then plug in USB cable to the ubuntu machine | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | wait a bit, it should say network connection notification or something like that | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | and then telnet 10.42.66.66 | 10:37 |
| Stskeeps | if it says fastboot mode, that's wrong :) | 10:37 |
| Sef | I have done that, but ubuntu doesn't find the device | 10:37 |
| Sef | ok | 10:38 |
| Sef | what should it say? | 10:38 |
| Stskeeps | nothing, just stuck at a jolla logo practically | 10:38 |
| Sef | the fastboot mode is the only one I can get it to stay with | 10:39 |
| Sef | when I take battery out and put it back, it tries to boot the second the battery is in | 10:39 |
| Stskeeps | okay, sec | 10:39 |
| Sef | then after 3-5 seconds it shuts down, red led blinking and it boots again | 10:40 |
| Sef | loop | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | take battery out, hold down volume down and put in battery, if it doesn't come on, press power button again | 10:40 |
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| Sef | My battery is low so it doesn't start without a cable | 10:42 |
| Sef | also it doesn't charge the battery at all | 10:43 |
| Sef | Now when I got it to boot with volume down pressed it went into fastboot mode again | 10:45 |
| Sef | it has jolla logo in the middle and fastboot mode with small text in the upper left corner | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | okay, i'm not entirely sure you're doing exactly what i'm saying :) | 10:47 |
| ko__ | hm. my phone went overnight from 78% to dead | 10:48 |
| ko__ | all i've had is very high battery consumption since the update | 10:48 |
| ko__ | nothing running. | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | do exactly this: take out the usb cable from the device, take out the battery from the device, hold "volume down" and "power button" until it shows anything on the screen, then plug in usb cable | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | -> sef | 10:49 |
| Sef | Stskeeps: my battery is dead so without the usb cable nothing happens | 10:50 |
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| Stskeeps | did you try it? | 10:51 |
| Sef | Stskeeps: just took the usb cable out, battery out, pressed volume down and power buttons, kept pressed and installed battery | 10:51 |
| Sef | nothing happens because the battery is dead | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | okay, grab a usb charger and let it loop a bit on the red led blinking | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | not a laptop, but the usb charger | 10:52 |
| Sef | I tried that for 2 hours | 10:52 |
| Sef | with the charger | 10:52 |
| Sef | didn't recharge at all | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | on fastboot, or on looping | 10:52 |
| Sef | looping I tried for 2 gours | 10:53 |
| Sef | hours | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:53 |
| Sef | in fastboot I tried only 15 min | 10:53 |
| Sef | to recharge | 10:53 |
| Sef | I try to recharge a bit more | 10:54 |
| Sef | (girl friend forces me to eat now) | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:54 |
| Sef | should it recharge in fastboot mode? | 10:57 |
| Sef | or is it better to recharge when looping | 10:57 |
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| Stskeeps | it should recharge in fastboot mode, i think | 10:58 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 11:09 |
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| Sef | Stskeeps: it doesn't recharge | 11:22 |
| Sef | or anyways cannot start it without usb cable | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | okay, sounds like you need to send it to service | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | contact jolla care at care@jolla.com | 11:23 |
| Sef | when in fastboot mode it should after some time have red led indicating that it has dhcp server running | 11:24 |
| Sef | for me the led never goes red | 11:24 |
| cos- | i had a strange bug yesterday. the device flooded "Unable to connect" message in top of the screen and i wasn't able to select a wlan connection in settings | 11:24 |
| cos- | the location was underground (poor cell reception) and with wlan | 11:25 |
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| lainwir3d | cos-: already had that bug I think | 11:35 |
| lainwir3d | first time I used the device. Went back to normal after a reboot | 11:36 |
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| coderus | Waitee: last? | 11:51 |
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| Waitee | coderus: yeah | 11:51 |
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| coderus | 29? | 11:52 |
| Waitee | 28 | 11:54 |
| Stskeeps | 42. | 11:55 |
| satmd | 21 | 11:56 |
| coderus | Waitee: thats not last one ;) | 11:59 |
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| Waitee | apparently :D | 12:00 |
| mikma | stskeeps: calm down Slartibartfast | 12:04 |
| Waitee | what was his planet called again? | 12:06 |
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| mikma | http://moviecitynews.com/archived/arrays/images/2005/hitchhikers/Slartibartfast.gif | 12:09 |
| Waitee | oh yea | 12:09 |
| Waitee | that's the wrong slartibartfast though | 12:09 |
| Waitee | the new film sucks :P | 12:10 |
| mikma | it's a cliffhanger :( | 12:10 |
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| mikma | kinda needs the rest of the books to follow | 12:10 |
| Waitee | http://debandpaul.org/Images/Slartibartfast.jpg | 12:10 |
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| Waitee | the film does only relate to the original book :P | 12:10 |
| Waitee | if you read the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy you'll find the new film lacks most of the clever jokes and has replaced them with very lame american ones | 12:11 |
| Waitee | clever british jokes* | 12:12 |
| Waitee | coderus: btw started working after the update :D | 12:13 |
| mikma | the fact that the demolisherchief at the beginning is not sitting in the mud is a bad thing :( | 12:13 |
| Eztran | I'm not sure Adams' humour really translated well to film. | 12:13 |
| Eztran | Actually, that said, it worked fine in radio, so... | 12:13 |
| Waitee | Eztran: have you seen the first film? | 12:13 |
| Eztran | Mmm, though not for ages. | 12:13 |
| Waitee | worked well there imo | 12:13 |
| Waitee | it was so dissapointing to see that instead of clever talking to get the demolisher chief lay in the mud instead ford just gave the workers some beer | 12:14 |
| mikma | waitee: exactly | 12:15 |
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| Waitee | it's a nice film if you havent read the book though | 12:16 |
| Waitee | but since it should be the same story with artistic freedom for the director of course | 12:16 |
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| Waitee | hmm | 12:17 |
| Waitee | kapsi dropping | 12:17 |
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| FireFly | Was there a first film? | 13:42 |
| FireFly | I'm only aware of a TV series and a relatively new film | 13:42 |
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| Eztran | FireFly: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0081874/ | 13:48 |
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| Sviox | I'm trying to setup initialPage attribute of ApplicationWindow so that it will check an attribute of a C++ object, i.e. initialPage: nativeObj.prop === "x" ? (pageX) : (pageY). However, I get a syntax error when substituting pageX/pageY with "Component{ PageX{} }" - apparently this can't be done for syntaxed QML content. ApplicationWindow documentation states that also "url of a Page-type | 14:29 |
| Sviox | component" is valid content - I've tried Qt.resolvedUrl("PageX.qml") with no luck. Any advice? | 14:29 |
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| pege | I can't see Sailfish OS project in the Qt creator, any ideas? | 16:06 |
| pege | it used to work before but after re-installing it's not there | 16:06 |
| situ | Does Sailfish OS support LTE now ? | 16:11 |
| Yaniel | technically yes | 16:12 |
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| tbr | situ: not yet but soon | 16:32 |
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| genjix | how can i create a new plugin in qtcreator? i want to access c++ in jolla's qml | 16:54 |
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| fk_lx | genjix: there is a good article on Qt Project website about QML and C++ integration, I would advise you to start from there | 17:08 |
| Sviox | Is there any Silica components for tabs or any advice on how to do them? | 17:09 |
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| fk_lx | Sviox: there are no tabs, but you can put stuff on separate pages or go Tweetian way | 17:13 |
| fk_lx | Sviox: nothing stops you from making custom own tabs ;-) | 17:14 |
| Sviox | Okay.. | 17:16 |
| Sviox | That's a bit restricting, but guess I'll have to learn to live with it | 17:16 |
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| genjix | fk_lx, thanks | 17:20 |
| genjix | how can i use websockets in qml on jolla? | 17:21 |
| Nicd- | genjix: google websockets qml, there's a library for it but I don't know how well it works | 17:22 |
| Nicd- | personally I would do socket stuff on the C++ side | 17:22 |
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| genjix | Nicd-, so i have to make a qml c++ plugin right? | 17:26 |
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| Nicd- | genjix: if you want to do it on the C++ side then yes, though I'm not really sure about what you mean with "plugin" | 17:28 |
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| genjix | Nicd-, QML Extension | 17:31 |
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| Yaniel | or just a bunch of C++ code with signals to QML? | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | I don't know about QML extensions, signals & slots is how I would probably do it | 17:32 |
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| genjix | ahh wicked | 17:33 |
| genjix | ok saves me a bunch of effort | 17:33 |
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| bnvk | So, total BALLPARK guestimation- how difficult / many hours of work is it to make a new UI theme for Sailfish (like Glacier is trying to do) ? | 17:46 |
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| genjix | Nicd-, so the qml would emit a signal, which in c++ is connected to my qobject? | 17:46 |
| genjix | how do i connect a signal with qml then if i don't have the object reference? | 17:47 |
| Nicd- | sorry, I don't know about connecting signals and slots with QML since I haven't done that yet | 17:48 |
| Nicd- | I've only called C++ functions from QML | 17:48 |
| tbr | bnvk: glacier is building a whole UI, that's hundreds if not thousands of man-hours | 17:48 |
| bnvk | tbr: ah, ok... thanks ;) | 17:48 |
| genjix | ahh ok | 17:49 |
| bnvk | hehe | 17:49 |
| genjix | Nicd-, how did you do that? | 17:49 |
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| bnvk | tbr: is there a less time intensive method of making a simple skin? | 17:49 |
| genjix | ahh using Q_INVOKABLE | 17:49 |
| genjix | http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qtbinding.html#calling-functions | 17:50 |
| tbr | bnvk: you could probably take silica and start tweaking it | 17:50 |
| Nicd- | genjix: https://bitbucket.org/Nicd/sailtime/src -- take a look at qml/harbour-sailtime.qml and src/harbour-sailtime.cpp | 17:50 |
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| bnvk | tbr: cool, is there any simple docs you could point me to if I were so inspired? | 17:50 |
| Eztran | bnvk: it's worth noting that glacier itself is intending to be somewhat skinnable. | 17:50 |
| tbr | bnvk: not really | 17:51 |
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| genjix | thank you Nicd- that helps a lot | 17:52 |
| bnvk | Eztran: tbr: gotcha, interesting! I wonder what the experience will be like. I'm a bit bothered by some of the UX / UI of Silica | 17:52 |
| bnvk | i'd love to take a stab at tweaking & polishing things :) | 17:53 |
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| Eztran | Could even help 'em develop it if that's your kinda thing. | 17:54 |
| bnvk | UI / UX is my main thing but also web engineering (php, js, python) not sure how quickly i'd take to Qt / C++ stuff :o | 17:56 |
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| pege | any idea why Qt Creator doesn't show Sailfish OS when I'm trying to create a new project? | 17:56 |
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| genjix | "Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. No private key file given." | 18:01 |
| genjix | i have the vm and everything, and it works inside qt creator | 18:02 |
| genjix | how can i build from command line? i don't like that huge ide | 18:02 |
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| BearT | genjix: I don't know if that is your problem too, but I had to reinstall the whole sdk yesterday just because of the same error message. it seemed to be a problem with the file sharing and the vm could not read the key (or any other file) properly and thus i couldn't log in. unfortunately the only thing that worked, was deleting the sdk and reinstalling it. | 18:13 |
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| genjix | BearT, i like to understand my build system tools so i'm investigating this | 18:19 |
| genjix | i might just end up using qtcreator as a compiler | 18:19 |
| walokra | anyone done oauth2 in sailfishos app? how to keep the client_secret & access/refresh_tokens secure? | 18:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: what I do is to put them into a Qt plugin that I load in runtime | 18:23 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hidden in a source point of view | 18:24 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it do not prevent someone to intercept calls from QML | 18:24 |
| walokra | yeah, figures. i'm not worried about source code view | 18:25 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: then use a QML plugin and do calls in c++ only | 18:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | only present results in QML | 18:26 |
| walokra | how about storing access_tokens between app restarts? localstorage? | 18:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: well, I'm using a ini file and storing in plain text | 18:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this is not safe | 18:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you might need to encrypt it and store it either with localstorage, or simply in ini file (QSettings) | 18:27 |
| walokra | that's what I'm thinking, how I should do it "safely" | 18:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I don't know | 18:27 |
| Morpog_ | Anyone can help me? I'm trying to build Tweetian RPM with SDK. i486 works fine, but armv7hl fails with this error: | 18:27 |
| Morpog_ | C:\Users\Stephan\Documents\GitHub\Tweetian\src\thumbnailcacher.cpp:72: Warnung:unused parameter 'imageObj' [-Wunused-parameter] | 18:27 |
| BearT | Morpog_: this is a warning, not an error | 18:28 |
| Morpog_ | but it doesn't build the RPM :( | 18:28 |
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| BearT | Morpog_: I don't think rpm builds have a zero warning policy. anyway, if you just delete the imageObj name from your function, the warning goes away, ie. someFunc(const Image &/*imageObj*/) | 18:29 |
| Morpog_ | actually, now as we speak it did build it, lol | 18:29 |
| BearT | Morpog_: ok, maybe it was not ready creating the rpm when you last checked, but the build finished before. | 18:30 |
| Morpog_ | thx anyway | 18:30 |
| walokra | hmm, as the access_token is anyways needed to be sent plain text to api, there's no use to encrypt it | 18:30 |
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| Morpog_ | lets see how my tweetian changes feel on device :D | 18:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | ahoi | 18:33 |
| tortoisedoc | does anyone know if there is a similar interface as MApplicationService in Sailfish? | 18:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | I guess it does not yet exist | 18:42 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc: what the purpose of it? | 19:38 |
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| tortoisedoc | coderus : service app with ui included | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | (ofc I could solve with own dbus intf) | 19:44 |
| tortoisedoc | (but before doing so I wanted to make sure) | 19:45 |
| Jonni | walokra: well nothing is totally secure, but I would suggess you to encrypt it with openssl if you need encyption on tokens. | 19:45 |
| walokra | imgur api is https and as how it works, i think there's nothing more to it | 19:48 |
| tortoisedoc | walokra: https is pretty secure as long as noone can get ahold of the private key | 19:53 |
| tortoisedoc | (of the server) | 19:53 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc:make your own :) | 19:54 |
| tortoisedoc | coderus: yeah figured, was just wondering if together with MDesktop they took also MApplicationService :) but of course that would have meant MApplication too :) | 19:54 |
| tortoisedoc | (most likely) | 19:54 |
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| walokra | tortoisedoc: yeah, the protocal is but just wondering if I should/could do something about the api keys/tokens on the clinet | 19:55 |
| walokra | *client | 19:55 |
| Jonni | usually I just do simple encrypt and hope that nobody reverse engineers the key, atleast it will protect against simple string searchers | 19:56 |
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| walokra | string searchers from device's localstorage? | 19:58 |
| walokra | it might be worth to encrypt the tokens in storage although you have to decrypt them anyways for the api use | 19:58 |
| Jonni | yep, although there are are no known malware which would abuse their read access, but you sleep better in night | 19:59 |
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| Jonni | heh, that reminds me that I should encrypt api key from one of my harbour apps... | 20:01 |
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| walokra | can the app code easily be extracted? | 20:04 |
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| Yaniel | plain QML & JS files yes | 20:05 |
| Yaniel | stuff from qrc is trickier | 20:05 |
| Yaniel | and c++ is well, binary | 20:05 |
| walokra | yeah, just remembered I have done it myself also | 20:06 |
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| stephg_j | Hello! | 20:21 |
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| Nicd- | hello internet buddy! | 20:21 |
| stephg_j | heh, cool app venemo | 20:22 |
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| stephg | and now back at my computer | 20:43 |
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| tortoisedoc | grr | 20:50 |
| tortoisedoc | Jonni: do you know if by chance in latest nemo-transfer-engine the debug logging is disabled? | 20:50 |
| tortoisedoc | it used to work back in build 24 (or 25) | 20:51 |
| tortoisedoc | but not in the latest one it seems | 20:51 |
| Jonni | sorry no idea, havent played with that | 20:51 |
| tortoisedoc | any suggestion who to ask? | 20:51 |
| Jonni | tortoisedoc: looking from commit history, you find zchydem in this channel :) | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc | Jonni : d'oh didnt rememer commit history! Thanks :) | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc | zchydem : ping | 20:54 |
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| tanghus | Stskeeps: watching your talk from FOSDEM. I like your style; - you've even developed a Finnish accent :D | 21:15 |
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| Nicd- | rally english? | 21:19 |
| tanghus | smth like that, but I prefer it to Danish accent :) | 21:20 |
| tanghus | Being Danish myself | 21:21 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc | comparing the two versions of nemo-transfer-engine does not show any changes in debug info handling | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc | perhaps it is somewhere else then | 21:43 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm how to namespace plugin ressources? | 21:54 |
| tortoisedoc | (as in qrc:) | 21:55 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 22:03 |
| tortoisedoc | i wonder | 22:03 |
| tortoisedoc | TwitterShareServiceStatus::signInParameters:25 - virtual bool TwitterShareServiceStatus::signInParameters(SignInParameters*) const No valid OAuth2 keys found | 22:03 |
| tortoisedoc | does this have something to do with my transfer-engine being not fully what it used to be? | 22:03 |
| tortoisedoc | btw twitter was added by me as an account | 22:04 |
| tortoisedoc | but is not in the list | 22:04 |
| tortoisedoc | and my facebook account is still missing :/ | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | tanghus: well, living in poland rather accent | 22:15 |
| tanghus | Stskeeps: probably that, but sounds very similar :) | 22:16 |
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| Sviox | tortoisedoc: have same problem as you, lacking MApplicationService that is. Porting app from Harmattan that used to have multiple processes and the automatic service setup included really helped. | 22:24 |
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| tortoisedoc | Sviox: I believe the issue is just that sailfishos does not have the feature yet. Perhaps in future it should be available | 22:29 |
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| tortoisedoc | (hopefully) | 22:30 |
| tortoisedoc | (it was pretty handy on harmattan) | 22:30 |
| tortoisedoc | now if only i can understand how to namespace qrc: entries in plugins :)( | 22:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | I will be the happiest man around | 22:33 |
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| Sviox | heh, good luck with that | 22:35 |
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