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| s1gk1ll | smokex: https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025-edit-01012014/ | 00:06 |
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| AL13N | meShell: i haven't tried it yet... but otoh, the btrfs version is not that high (kernel 3.4) | 00:13 |
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| jupaja | coderus: and here it is https://openrepos.net/content/nokius/shutdown-graphic-changer :D | 01:01 |
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| satmd | hello there | 01:05 |
| satmd | sailfish.users++; | 01:05 |
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| netzvieh | damn I'm too stupid to use that sdk ... I have a cpp file in src/client which includes a header file from src/common, or it should | 01:34 |
| netzvieh | gives a no such file error | 01:35 |
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| netzvieh | where can i set project specific PATH? | 01:37 |
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| coderus | netzvieh: you can use #include "../common/header.h" | 02:57 |
| coderus | netzvieh: or set INCLUDEPATH += src/common in .pro file | 03:08 |
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| Indian | hola any one awake on Saturday morning | 06:50 |
| smokex | o/ Saturday afternoon | 06:50 |
| Indian | smokex,can we discuss anything about sailfish in here like porting to n9 and such or is it forbidden | 06:52 |
| smokex | I think it can be discussed but #n950club and #nemomobile-porters are for that | 06:53 |
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| Stskeeps | not really forbidden, just as long as it's understood it's an unofficial undertaking | 06:54 |
| Stskeeps | but yeah, those channels exist for that | 06:54 |
| Indian | okay | 06:54 |
| Indian | cool | 06:54 |
| Indian | Stskeeps, any idea if jolla guys going to release more mobiles with smaller screens. | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | Indian: my wife asked me the exact same thing and i said i can't answer that :P | 06:58 |
| Indian | lol | 06:59 |
| Indian | I am like shall get n9 and port sailfish or buy jolla | 06:59 |
| Indian | but 4.5 is too big for me | 06:59 |
| Stskeeps | in practice n9 will never be a complete port, so if you want a product, you should buy a jolla phone :) | 06:59 |
| Indian | ofcourse | 07:00 |
| Indian | but I want to wait if they release smaller mobiles | 07:00 |
| Stskeeps | other possibilities might be http://www.talouselama.fi/nakoislehti/jolla%20ceo%20you%20will%20soon%20be%20able%20turn%20your%20android%20device%20into%20a%20sailfish%20device/a2218386 in future | 07:01 |
| Indian | ho yah saw that | 07:01 |
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| iekku | good morning | 08:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hello iekku ! | 08:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 08:16 |
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| iekku | ahoy Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:09 |
| smokex | hyvää huomenta merimiehet! | 09:10 |
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| iekku | smokex, entäs naiset? | 09:37 |
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| Bloob | merimies on ammattinimike joka kattaa naisetkin :) | 09:39 |
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| narchie | eikös siitä ollut lakialoite joskus vai muistanko väärin | 09:43 |
| narchie | hello | 09:43 |
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| khertan | Morning | 13:46 |
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| faenil | khertan, o/ | 13:47 |
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| khertan | a little hour lag :) | 13:49 |
| khertan | s/hour/hours | 13:49 |
| khertan | :) | 13:49 |
| faenil | khertan, ah, sorry :D | 13:50 |
| elenril | hi | 13:51 |
| elenril | where does one get the source for the kernel used in jolla | 13:51 |
| Stskeeps | elenril: https://github.com/KonstaT/sailfishos_kernel_jolla_msm8930 but be careful, power brings responsibility | 13:52 |
| khertan | faenil, wrote morning this morning ... but didn't press enter key :) | 13:52 |
| faenil | khertan, ehehe | 13:53 |
| elenril | Stskeeps: thanks | 13:53 |
| elenril | not going to build my own for now, just want to see what's there on top of the official tree | 13:53 |
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| hoelzro | so I submitted my app and it was rejected; I was recommended to check the 'Harbour Tools' view in the SDK control center. However, I only see Targets, Toolchains, and Updates. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? | 16:21 |
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| hoelzro | ah, it seems I may have to install an update to the SDK | 16:24 |
| juke | can you check the rpm without submiting there? | 16:25 |
| hoelzro | juke: that's what I was told | 16:25 |
| juke | oh, nice | 16:25 |
| hoelzro | it's supposed to catch some of the more common mistakes | 16:25 |
| juke | i was just needing that | 16:25 |
| hoelzro | oh, there we go | 16:25 |
| hoelzro | juke: yeah, just update your sdk | 16:25 |
| juke | hoelzro, thanks! | 16:26 |
| hoelzro | np =) | 16:26 |
| hoelzro | juke: what are you making? | 16:26 |
| juke | hoelzro, netradar/nettitutka | 16:26 |
| hoelzro | cool | 16:27 |
| hoelzro | so something useful =) | 16:27 |
| * hoelzro is making a sudoku app | 16:27 | |
| juke | nice! | 16:27 |
| juke | there isn't enough games in jolla store | 16:27 |
| hoelzro | it's just first on my "to make" list | 16:28 |
| hoelzro | just to get acquainted with Qt | 16:28 |
| hoelzro | and the OS | 16:28 |
| hoelzro | I'm really impressed with how easy it is to get a working prototype | 16:29 |
| juke | yeah, i also haven't done any qt stuff before, i'm actually just porting the harmattan app to sailfish | 16:29 |
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| juke | or meego app, too many names for the same thing... | 16:30 |
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| hoelzro | yeah, I can't keep them straight either | 16:31 |
| John24 | guys guys :) | 16:31 |
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| John24 | once again I got an xml related question | 16:31 |
| John24 | I got an xmllistmodel that at the moment is storing file/folder data which I want to use a simple file browser | 16:32 |
| John24 | I got no idea what to use? I see listitem listview menus and ect and not sure which one would be the best to use with xmllistmodel | 16:32 |
| John24 | or tbh how to use it properly | 16:33 |
| John24 | I want to allow users to browse files on their PC's and file and directories are stored in xml file | 16:34 |
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| Acce | does someone know which package has qmlscene in it? | 16:39 |
| faenil | mm | 16:42 |
| faenil | Acce, try qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene | 16:43 |
| M4rtinK | weird, I'm getting this: | 16:44 |
| M4rtinK | $ rpm -qf /usr/bin/qmlscene | 16:44 |
| M4rtinK | qtchooser-26-1.1.1.armv7hl | 16:44 |
| faenil | mm :/ | 16:45 |
| coderus | John24: share xml | 16:45 |
| faenil | could be that it's been moved | 16:45 |
| M4rtinK | well, pkcon install qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene | 16:45 |
| M4rtinK | or at least does not throw an error | 16:45 |
| faenil | the qtchooser might just be meta-packaging stuff | 16:46 |
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| M4rtinK | well, even if it was installed due to a metapackage | 16:46 |
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| M4rtinK | IMHO the metapackage should only have dependencies without any file and the files are owned by the actual packages it references | 16:47 |
| John24 | http://pastebin.com/46PTjb3h | 16:47 |
| John24 | give me a sec picture will do better | 16:47 |
| faenil | M4rtinK, not sure why that's done sorry | 16:48 |
| M4rtinK | no problem, jut wondering :) | 16:48 |
| M4rtinK | *just | 16:48 |
| Acce | faenil I found that too with the search, but qmlscene binary is not installed.. maybe it is just not in the path then hmm | 16:48 |
| John24 | there we go: http://i.imgur.com/hvBF7lM.png | 16:48 |
| John24 | already got xmlrequest working and filing the xmllist model no issues | 16:49 |
| John24 | just how do I display the folders and files to the user? | 16:49 |
| Acce | qtchooser worked, thanks! | 16:50 |
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| balta | Hey, has anybody here experience accessing the camera using QCamera? I tried it in QML using Camera and VideoOutput elements, and using QCamera and an QAbstractVideoSurface as ViewFinder but both times I get a message like: CameraBin error: "No common caps" | 16:50 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, looks like both actually install qmlscene :) | 16:50 |
| M4rtinK | $ rpm -q -filesbypkg qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene | 16:50 |
| M4rtinK | qt5-qtdeclarative-qmlscene /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qmlscene | 16:50 |
| M4rtinK | but only the one from qtchooser actually goes to $PATH | 16:51 |
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| faenil | cool :) | 16:52 |
| faenil | and maybe the one in bin is just a symlink? :D | 16:52 |
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| faenil | /usr/bin, that is | 16:53 |
| M4rtinK | qmlscene -> qtchooser | 16:54 |
| Acce | well, now i can do some quick tests etc on the device while waiting for the bus :) | 16:54 |
| M4rtinK | and qtchooser probably runs the qmscene from that qt folder | 16:54 |
| M4rtinK | *qmlscene | 16:54 |
| Acce | thanks again to both of you! | 16:55 |
| M4rtinK | no problem :) | 16:55 |
| faenil | :) np | 16:59 |
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| M4rtinK | btw, that's the status of midnight commander availability ? | 17:03 |
| M4rtinK | I've seen some links pointing to a package by nealdk but they seem to be dead for some reason | 17:05 |
| M4rtinK | Nieldk | 17:05 |
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| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: he got upset at users doing something stupid or something like that.. | 17:19 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: users doing stupid things ? unthinkable ! | 17:20 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: so I guess I'll have to do something about the mc package I have in my Mer OBS project :) | 17:21 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: btw, I have a RFE/bugreport for the mer-tools repository :) | 17:21 |
| Stskeeps | -> lbt | 17:22 |
| M4rtinK | lbt: vim in mer-tools is compiled without Python support ! :) | 17:22 |
| M4rtinK | lbt: to be specific, I'm getting this: Error: Required vim compiled with +python | 17:22 |
| Stskeeps | that's in mer, rather, but, there's a good reason for that.. | 17:23 |
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| valdur55 | M4rtinK: how you get this error? | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | it introduces a bad circular dependency | 17:23 |
| lbt | it's not a problem anymore, we have emacs now | 17:24 |
| M4rtinK | valdur55: when trying to use the jedi-vim plugin | 17:24 |
| M4rtinK | well, don't we have an OS already ? :) | 17:24 |
| lbt | I'm working on a Qt composer that uses emacs frames | 17:25 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, why not :) | 17:25 |
| M4rtinK | Emacs is crazy, IIRC you can directly open PDFs with it now :) | 17:26 |
| lbt | :) | 17:26 |
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| lbt | I have no idea why vim/python should interdepend though | 17:27 |
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| M4rtinK | vim compiled with python support supports plugins written in Python | 17:30 |
| M4rtinK | and the jedi-vim plugin that provides various Python development features (completion, documentation, renaming, show usage) etc. | 17:31 |
| lbt | M4rtinK: try copying vi to your home area and building it with python enabled? | 17:31 |
| M4rtinK | is such a Python plugin | 17:32 |
| lbt | *nod* I understand what it is | 17:32 |
| lbt | I don't understand why python depends on vim ... | 17:32 |
| M4rtinK | oh, that's why | 17:32 |
| M4rtinK | that's weird | 17:32 |
| lbt | but I'm sure it does if Stskeeps says so | 17:32 |
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| M4rtinK | ok, I'll look at building it in my OBS project then :) | 17:33 |
| lbt | it may be easiest to have vi-python in tools if there's enough demand and it's done sensibly | 17:35 |
| M4rtinK | well, so far it is a bit of an edge-case | 17:38 |
| M4rtinK | and all other plugins are seem to work fine | 17:38 |
| M4rtinK | so there are probably not many Python plugins | 17:39 |
| M4rtinK | but, if there is demand, why not :) | 17:39 |
| M4rtinK | so adding it to the TODO pile :) | 17:39 |
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| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: can you add me to the German Gruppe at transifex will help | 17:45 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | jupaja: you can ask iirc | 17:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or did you already did ? | 17:49 |
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| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: no will di this ;) | 17:51 |
| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: thx | 17:51 |
| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: is not online | 17:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | jupaja: what's not online ? | 17:53 |
| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: iirc | 17:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | iirc ? | 17:55 |
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| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: u sad "jupaja: you can ask iirc" is it not an user her? | 17:55 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | IIRC = if I recall correctly | 17:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I wanted to say: "you can apply if I remember correctly" | 17:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and anyway you got accepted ;) | 17:58 |
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| jupaja | okay :D did it already (apply) | 18:02 |
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| jupaja | Sfiet_Konstantin: so looks good / but have no Idea how to say it checked but now its all translated and correct | 18:17 |
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| xcv__ | hi everyone | 18:31 |
| xcv__ | I'm writing an application to run custom scripts easily and I can't find a way to #include "lua.h" | 18:32 |
| xcv__ | do I need to install something in the mersdk vm? | 18:32 |
| coderus | xcv__: lua-devel | 18:33 |
| xcv__ | I tried installing it, but I just got the version for the vm os, not the cross-compiler | 18:34 |
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| coderus | what you mean? | 18:34 |
| coderus | go to SDK management and install package from there, not from ssh | 18:35 |
| xcv__ | what is exactly SDK management? | 18:36 |
| juke | in the ide | 18:37 |
| juke | one of the side tabs | 18:37 |
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| juke | https://sailfishos.org/images/sdk_control_center.png | 18:38 |
| xcv__ | okay, I'm in it | 18:38 |
| juke | press targets -> arm -> search your package and install | 18:38 |
| juke | i guess | 18:38 |
| xcv__ | found it! | 18:39 |
| xcv__ | tanks | 18:39 |
| xcv__ | thanks* | 18:39 |
| juke | np | 18:39 |
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| SieniMaagi | Hi all, urgent help needed (with my Jolla) | 18:44 |
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| SieniMaagi | troubleshoot: the phone crashed while trying to use facebook, now it just keeps "turning on" as in it keeps showing the Jolla logo on the screen (flashing on and off) and the led keeps turning white and off | 18:45 |
| SieniMaagi | I've tried to reboot it (nothing happens with the power button, except it flashes the red led and then keeps doing the above) | 18:45 |
| SieniMaagi | and I've tried to take the battery out, but that does nothing (it just begins to do the same shit over and over again) | 18:45 |
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| balta | SieniMaagi: I've never done that but can you use the recovery mode? https://together.jolla.com/question/3612/release-notes-software-update-2-1025-edit-01012014/#details | 18:55 |
| SieniMaagi | not looking too good :D | 18:57 |
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| f00barbaz | battery flat? | 19:02 |
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| SieniMaagi | shouldn't be | 19:05 |
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| SieniMaagi | now it stopped saying anything, so I'll keep it in recharge for an hour or so just in case :S | 19:06 |
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| vertus | Hi all! | 19:11 |
| vertus | When Qt5.2 will be supported by SDK? | 19:11 |
| balta | Is now anybody here who can help me by my problem accessing the camera in Qt? | 19:12 |
| special | when the phone is updated to it. It's a difficult update. | 19:12 |
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| vertus | special: can I compile qt modules with current SDK? | 19:14 |
| special | vertus: theoretically. which qt modules..? | 19:14 |
| vertus | special: Qt Enginio for example | 19:14 |
| vertus | in Qt 5.2 this is already a part of Qt | 19:15 |
| vertus | But for 5.1 I can compile this | 19:15 |
| special | ah, yes, you can | 19:16 |
| vertus | special: is enginio libs will be deployed to phone? | 19:16 |
| special | officially, you mean? | 19:17 |
| vertus | I mean after I compiled my app and create rpm, is Enginio libs will be in rpm? | 19:17 |
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| juke | the dependency will be in the rpm | 19:20 |
| vertus | juke: ok, good! | 19:20 |
| juke | if you want to push it to harbour, check if the library is allowed | 19:20 |
| juke | otherwise you need to include it in the rpm | 19:20 |
| vertus | what is harbour? | 19:21 |
| juke | jolla store | 19:21 |
| vertus | ok, but as I understand now the rpm is generated by qt creator? Is it right? | 19:21 |
| juke | yes | 19:21 |
| vertus | juke: is Enginio will be included? | 19:23 |
| vertus | If I will compiled him as qt module | 19:23 |
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| juke | https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/blob/master/allowed_libraries.conf | 19:24 |
| juke | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq check here for more | 19:24 |
| vertus | Ok, thank yo! | 19:25 |
| vertus | you | 19:25 |
| juke | np | 19:26 |
| meShell | does someone know what mkspec/conf-file ist used when compiling for "SailfishOS-armv7hl" on MerSDK? especially the used QMAKE_LFLAGS | 19:28 |
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| vertus | Is exust Design Style document? I read this https://sailfishos.org/principle-article.html but didn't saw color sheme themes info. | 19:49 |
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| kaltsi | meShell: no special sailfish mkspec, just a normal linux-g++ | 19:55 |
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| meShell | ok thanks and so inlude those from common ... | 19:57 |
| kaltsi | the build is done in an sb2 (scratchbox2) session inside the mersdk virtual machine, which makes the build environment look like a "native" arm environment | 19:59 |
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| meShell | and using the files from /srv/mer/targets/SailfishOS-armv7hl/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/common/ right? | 20:05 |
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| kaltsi | yes | 20:05 |
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| meShell | ok, great, so at least I know where to stat ... trying to build a platformplugin as static ... | 20:06 |
| meShell | maybe I should ask in #qt if that's possible at all ... | 20:07 |
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| wickwire | Hi guys, has anyone tried sqlite with a sailfishOS app? | 20:12 |
| wickwire | I'm trying to use this howto from the qtproject | 20:12 |
| wickwire | https://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtquick/qmlmodule-qtquick-localstorage2-qtquick-localstorage-2.html | 20:12 |
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| wickwire | but somehow it isn't working, the function isn't being called I don't think | 20:12 |
| wickwire | because I'm not getting a console log with connection errors - I've also added a try catch | 20:13 |
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| jobe-m | wickwire: I have used LS with my app some time ago and it worked fine. But I changed to QSettings for storing my app settings. It was more convenient. If you want to have a look, here is a link into commit history: https://github.com/jobe-m/ownkeepass/blob/40527466575da74a1ce9af5890568bbbf8f9ed88/Sailfish/qml/harbour-ownkeepass.qml | 20:20 |
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| wickwire | jobe-m: thanks for sharing - in the meantime I figured out that the sql statement strings had a syntax error so it's working fine now | 20:35 |
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| opt1mus | damn you | 21:07 |
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| john24 | I am trying to get my first page as dialog which would allow to swipe to another page | 22:05 |
| john24 | similar to the dock file manager | 22:05 |
| john24 | is there a simple way of doing so? | 22:05 |
| john24 | essentially i want to have additional controls on another page and access it with a swipe to the left | 22:06 |
| artemma | john24: I think you need to read about Attached pages | 22:10 |
| artemma | check PageStack reference | 22:10 |
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| john24 | I'm reading through it, the lack of code examples makes it harder | 22:13 |
| john24 | for someone starting off it's quite hard | 22:13 |
| artemma | well, just attach empty page and see what happens :) | 22:13 |
| * artemma never tried attached pages, just recall the docs | 22:14 | |
| M4rtinK | john24: or just find app that does what you want and then looks in /usr/share/<appname>/qml to see how the app does it :) | 22:14 |
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| john24 | I only seem to find a popattached fucntion not just attach a page | 22:18 |
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| john24 | well the app that does what I want is Jolla store | 22:24 |
| john24 | you swipe left for more info | 22:24 |
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| john24 | onStatusChanged: { if (status === PageStatus.Active && pageStack.depth === 1) { pageStack.pushAttached("AddControls.qml", {}); } } | 22:45 |
| john24 | can be found here : https://github.com/pycage/tidings/blob/master/qml/pages/FeedsPage.qml | 22:45 |
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| * artemma just posted a talk proposal to the conference and impressed how cool his company actually is. You know, it's like human being is never as close to perfection as when he is writing his resume | 23:01 | |
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