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| edyy | Hello, I would like to create an application like "a+b=c" in QML using PySide. However I dont know how to manage TextInput in PySide. My question is http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21311286/how-to-use-textinput-in-python-using-qml | 00:15 |
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| M4rtinK | edyy: PySide currently does not work on Sailfish | 00:18 |
| edyy | I see | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | edyy: but you can use PyOtherSide | 00:18 |
| edyy | I asked that because thp is here =) | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | he sure is :) | 00:18 |
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| M4rtinK | edyy: anyway, a few links: | 00:19 |
| edyy | Martin I tryed to install pyotherside on ubuntu 13.10 but It gave error | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-September/000782.html | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | oh, you know it | 00:19 |
| edyy | Thank you martin, I will check this :) | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | well, you need to build it currently | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | basically just make sure you have Qt devel packages & Python 3 devel packages installed | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | clone PyOtherSide from git | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | and then run | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | qmake | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | make | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | sudo make install | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | and that's basically it :) | 00:20 |
| edyy | I applied them as README ınstructions | 00:20 |
| edyy | now I will try it this time on fedora :) | 00:20 |
| M4rtinK | I'm on Fedora and I can report it works fine :) | 00:21 |
| M4rtinK | could be Ubuntu has broken Qt packaging or something | 00:21 |
| edyy | cool now I try to install pyotherside : | 00:21 |
| edyy | yes.. It has problem with some pyqt5 packages | 00:22 |
| edyy | forexample pyqt5.2(daily build), ıt chashes | 00:22 |
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| edyy | :) | 01:00 |
| mhall119 | qt5.2 isn't in Ubuntu yet | 01:06 |
| mhall119 | to my knowledge | 01:06 |
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| coderus | daily builds in ppa always | 02:14 |
| edyy | ANYONE KNOW HOW TO CONTROL TextInput with PySide :) | 02:15 |
| edyy | I dont know PySide is a good idea for developing QML application | 02:16 |
| edyy | just a few people try work on it.. | 02:17 |
| edyy | PySİDE QML documentation is not enough.. | 02:17 |
| edyy | JavaScript is better for QML but it doesnt have rich library like python | 02:19 |
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| locusf | morning, isn't /home/nemo/.config/$NAME allowed anymore as database path? | 09:00 |
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| smokex | locusf: apparently you have to use QStandardPaths::writableLocation(QStandardPaths::HomeLocation) | 09:03 |
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| Zotged | has anyone had any luck enabling usb networking on sailfish on n9? I'm running v1.0.2.5 (vgrade r5.1), ssh over wifi works fine but I must have a driver issue with usb | 09:06 |
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| Zotged | I'm running windows 7 and debian 7, doesn't work with either one | 09:06 |
| Zotged | usb networking with ubiboot resque mode works properly with Nokia Ethernet/rndir drivers on windows 7, sailfish however doesn't, and none of the rndis drivers I've tried so far work | 09:07 |
| Bysmyyr_ | Zotged: in my ubuntu connection worked nice after I choosed ip manually to my computer | 09:07 |
| Zotged | any pointers? | 09:07 |
| Zotged | hm | 09:07 |
| Zotged | rndis* | 09:08 |
| locusf | smokex: no, I gotta use XDG_CONFIG_HOME | 09:08 |
| Zotged | there's actually another thing I'm wondering: there are two "developer modes" listed on usb settings on sailfish | 09:09 |
| Zotged | what's that all about? | 09:09 |
| ynezz | Hi, I'm probably missing the big picture, but where could one find information about the building of the OS? I would like to take a deeper look at the system running on Jolla and there's not much information about it (maybe I'm just looking at the wrong places). | 09:10 |
| jukkaeklund | ynezz, did you check https://sailfishos.org/? | 09:12 |
| pp_ | debian should be easy to debug, after plugging in you should get some noise about rndis in dmesg | 09:12 |
| ynezz | jukkaeklund: yes I did | 09:12 |
| jukkaeklund | ok, did you find Mer and Nemo mobile there? | 09:13 |
| tbr | ynezz: same as nemo essentially, just sprinkle on UI layers and some hw-adaptation and 3rd-party binaries | 09:13 |
| ynezz | tbr: ok, so there are no "official" docs (yet?) about building own Jolla image, flashing etc? | 09:14 |
| Zotged | pp_: I'll take a look | 09:14 |
| tbr | ynezz: 'build nemo image, ensure it works, add UI layer' | 09:14 |
| tbr | ynezz: look at what's done for the N9/N950 | 09:14 |
| ynezz | ok, thanks | 09:15 |
| tbr | there is even a kickstarter file | 09:15 |
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| tbr | on images.formeego.org | 09:15 |
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| tbr | http://images.formeego.org/n950/sailfish/ | 09:15 |
| tbr | there is a github repo by vgrade for this too | 09:16 |
| ynezz | so basically, jolla is using "truly open" system, but isn't that open itself? | 09:17 |
| tbr | there are binaries here and there. things are opening up slowly | 09:21 |
| tbr | some won't | 09:21 |
| tbr | e.g. hardware adaptation → 3rd party | 09:21 |
| tbr | user-space 3rd party apps/libraries | 09:22 |
| special | but it is worth noting that all of the work done on the base system (mer) and middleware (nemo) is done in the open. | 09:22 |
| tbr | yes, I found it highly amusing how people were clamoring for more information and it was all there last year in nemo and mer. :-D | 09:22 |
| ynezz | well, it's not that clear | 09:23 |
| ynezz | now with that kickstart file it's more clear to me | 09:23 |
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| ynezz | and if for example I take lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 package from that kickstart file, where is the corresponding source code? | 09:25 |
| ynezz | I can find nemo/lipstick | 09:25 |
| tbr | that's currently a closed package AFAIU | 09:26 |
| tbr | well not very closed as it probably contains QML... | 09:26 |
| tbr | at least I've seen patches on TJC | 09:26 |
| ynezz | ok, wrong example :) | 09:27 |
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| juke | where the location for qml files is defined in the project? in my .pro the qml files under OTHER_FILES have different path than what is actually installed. the rpm contains the qml directory i have in project's folder | 12:36 |
| juke | http://pastebin.com/TQZdEc7s this is my directory structure | 12:39 |
| juke | and in .pro i have the qml-files paths with ../qml/file.qml | 12:39 |
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| juke | so what goes in to the rpm is not what says in .pro | 12:40 |
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| juke | so i'm trying to build multiple apps from same source | 12:43 |
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| juke | i tried symlinking ../qml to project-folder's qml but then i have only the symlink in my rpm | 12:46 |
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| kaltsi | juke: | 12:53 |
| kaltsi | juke: I'm not sure that kind of symlinking is supported by rpm too well | 12:54 |
| juke | i only tried symlinking because defining paths in .pro didn't work | 12:54 |
| juke | if qml dir's location can be defined some where that would solve the issue | 12:55 |
| kaltsi | you probably can't include directories that are outside your rpm directory to packaging | 12:57 |
| kaltsi | or 'higher' than your rpm dir | 12:58 |
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| juke | i find it weird that only the dir named qml is copied to the buildbox, i must be redefinable somewhere | 12:59 |
| kaltsi | the way rpm usually works is that you have a foo.tar.gz and a foo.spec (plus patches) in the same directory and rpmbuild can operate on that kind of dir structure.. our rpmbuild has some patches that allows it to operate without the tarball directly on a source tree | 12:59 |
| edips_ | hi, How to control TextInput Qml component in c++ or PySide? | 13:01 |
| edips_ | QML GUI: http://postimg.org/image/o9wt326g5/ | 13:02 |
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| juke | kaltsi, should i add a build step for copying the resources to a right place or what? | 13:03 |
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| coderus | edips_: you again? | 13:04 |
| coderus | there are no "PySide" | 13:04 |
| coderus | there is PyOtherSide | 13:04 |
| kaltsi | juke: I don't really know.. I've never tested such a dir structure | 13:04 |
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| edips_ | c++ can be too | 13:04 |
| edips_ | Hey I couldnt install pyotherside, so ım working on pyside-qml | 13:05 |
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| coderus | but what problem with textinput? | 13:07 |
| edips_ | I want to control TextInput like a+b=c | 13:08 |
| edips_ | as given picture | 13:08 |
| coderus | well | 13:08 |
| coderus | this channel for sailfish specific questions | 13:09 |
| coderus | if you newible in programming you need to learn | 13:09 |
| edips_ | thp here :) | 13:09 |
| coderus | first of all read qt articles and use oogle | 13:09 |
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| coderus | google * | 13:10 |
| edips_ | well, I am working on developing android apps using pyside-qml | 13:10 |
| edips_ | I asked there a question, SailfishOS will be available for android devices or not | 13:10 |
| edips_ | and some people said it can be future, it is possible | 13:10 |
| coderus | it need to be ported to each device | 13:10 |
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| coderus | no official images or so | 13:11 |
| coderus | it will be available *if* anyone will make ot | 13:11 |
| coderus | make it* | 13:11 |
| edips_ | so If it is possible I will install sailfishos rom and I can develop sailfishOS app | 13:11 |
| coderus | sure | 13:11 |
| coderus | but first you need to learn programming at all ;) | 13:11 |
| edips_ | I am not developer, I just want to develop calculator program for engineering, so I dont need to spend too much time for that | 13:12 |
| edips_ | just calculator example can be enough :) | 13:13 |
| coderus | ha | 13:13 |
| edips_ | I already will learn programming in time | 13:13 |
| kaltsi | edips_: there is a calculator project in qt creator's welcome page (tutorials tab) | 13:13 |
| coderus | calculator is very easy | 13:13 |
| edips_ | but when I learn new things with programming, I want to write new codes to my application | 13:14 |
| coderus | you need to get any calculator sources and look how it works | 13:14 |
| edips_ | kaltsi, I know, but It is about QML-javascript calculator | 13:14 |
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| edips_ | I need QML-PySİde calculator | 13:14 |
| kaltsi | oh ok | 13:14 |
| coderus | edips_: no difference in general agorytms | 13:14 |
| coderus | if you wand c++ read c++/qml articles | 13:15 |
| coderus | and so on | 13:15 |
| coderus | so | 13:15 |
| edips_ | I took a look c++-QML calculator, but they dont control QML's ID in c++, like QT Designer's object name | 13:15 |
| coderus | it shouldnt | 13:16 |
| edips_ | I typed calculator with AS3, PySide and C# | 13:16 |
| edips_ | but I dont know how to do it with QML in python | 13:16 |
| coderus | same with c++ | 13:16 |
| coderus | you not using qml from c++/python | 13:16 |
| edips_ | I also study c++-QML examlpes, but I dont know anything about c++ | 13:17 |
| coderus | you using c++/python from qml | 13:17 |
| edips_ | I see | 13:17 |
| edips_ | now I check QT's documentation about c++-QML | 13:17 |
| edips_ | also I had this question | 13:18 |
| edips_ | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21311286/how-to-use-textinput-in-python-using-qml | 13:18 |
| coderus | for general cases you just executing c++ funcs from qml and read it results | 13:18 |
| coderus | your question is wrong | 13:19 |
| edips_ | My english is not good :) | 13:19 |
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| coderus | its not english problem | 13:19 |
| edips_ | WHat is wrong? | 13:19 |
| coderus | you using python from calculatinos and so on | 13:20 |
| coderus | you not "*using* textinput in python" | 13:20 |
| coderus | you already have qml gui with textinputs and buttons | 13:20 |
| coderus | so you executing python/c++ from qml | 13:21 |
| coderus | not in reverse way :) | 13:21 |
| edips_ | It is an example. Actually If anyone answer this, everybody can understand usage of TextInput | 13:21 |
| coderus | its very trivial | 13:21 |
| coderus | you really need to learn more | 13:21 |
| edips_ | If TextInput can be used with calculator example, This can be used for another purposes too.. like e-mail.. | 13:22 |
| edips_ | yes I am new to programming.. | 13:22 |
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| coderus | its very easy, you just need to learn and read more | 13:22 |
| edips_ | Ok :) | 13:22 |
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| coderus | usage c++ from qml will help you :) | 13:23 |
| edips_ | Thank you | 13:23 |
| edips_ | What do you think about libraries of c++? c++ has rich libraries like Python? | 13:24 |
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| coderus | sure | 13:26 |
| coderus | its qt | 13:26 |
| coderus | its most feature rich libraries | 13:27 |
| edips_ | forexample we can import easy python modules to QT GUI, c++ can also import modules to the GUI ?(installed libraries in Linux) | 13:28 |
| coderus | sure | 13:30 |
| edips_ | thats cool | 13:30 |
| coderus | qml was designed for qt | 13:30 |
| coderus | python is for lazyness | 13:30 |
| edips_ | c++ can manage QML GUI with its ID or signals, functions? | 13:30 |
| edips_ | Yes | 13:31 |
| coderus | qt can do everything with qml | 13:31 |
| edips_ | So we can also display SQL databases in QML GUI using QT | 13:32 |
| coderus | sure | 13:32 |
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| coderus | stop it, you can do EVERYTHING with qt | 13:32 |
| edips_ | That's good :) | 13:32 |
| edips_ | Yesterday I did M4rtinK's instructions for installation of PyOtherSide | 13:34 |
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| edips_ | when i run "sudo make install" I got this error | 13:35 |
| edips_ | cd src/ && ( test -e Makefile || /usr/bin/qmake-qt5 /home/edip/Downloads/pyotherside-master/src/src.pro -o Makefile ) && make -f Makefile install Project ERROR: Unknown module(s) in QT: quick qml make: *** [sub-src-install_subtargets-ordered] Error 3 | 13:35 |
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| coderus | seems your qtchooser wasnt switced for qt5 | 13:36 |
| kcroot | o/ | 13:37 |
| edips_ | I ran it on Fedora, also I installed QT5 base as default | 13:37 |
| coderus | or you gave no development packages for building | 13:37 |
| edips_ | I tryed to install on ubuntu too, It gave same error.. | 13:37 |
| edips_ | I installed many modules of QT5, python3 is already installed.. I dont know | 13:38 |
| coderus | you need -dev packages | 13:38 |
| edips_ | coderus, what do you mean with development packages for building? | 13:39 |
| edips_ | M4rtin said, install QT devels | 13:39 |
| edips_ | I installed QT5's devel packages | 13:39 |
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| coderus | all packages? | 13:40 |
| edips_ | yes | 13:40 |
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| edips_ | But I didnt install phonon packages | 13:40 |
| hoelzro | jjjj | 13:40 |
| edips_ | maybe %90 of QT5 are installed | 13:41 |
| edips_ | I also installed all QT5 packages on ubuntu with synaptics. However It didnt install | 13:42 |
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| juke | where are the commands specified in .spec executed? on the developer's machine or buildbox? | 13:47 |
| coderus | juke: build ofc | 13:48 |
| juke | ok | 13:48 |
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| juke | i give up, it's easier just to copy the resources when building rpm | 13:51 |
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| juke | but it is unholy | 13:51 |
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| coderus | you can use mb build for that | 14:12 |
| coderus | rpmbuild not executing files resources afaik | 14:13 |
| juke | https://github.com/sailfish-sdk/sdk-harbour-rpmvalidator/blob/master/allowed_libraries.conf does this mean i can't use Qt5SystemInfo or Qt5Positioning in my app if i want to have it available on harbour? | 14:13 |
| coderus | juke: you cant for now | 14:14 |
| juke | i just wasted 1 month's worth of work | 14:14 |
| Andy80 | is anyone of you coming to this Qt event in London http://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/qt-mobile-roadshow-london-tickets-10097189967 ? | 14:15 |
| edips_ | Fortunatelly I installed PyOtherSide | 14:16 |
| edips_ | This I didnt use system's QT5,I used QT5 installed in /home.. | 14:17 |
| Hartzi | juke: take it like you saved a month's worth of work in future | 14:17 |
| joonahoi | juke: it will be supported eventually | 14:17 |
| Hartzi | juke: what is your app? | 14:17 |
| juke | Netradar | 14:17 |
| joonahoi | juke: also most of the people also use apps from openrepos | 14:18 |
| Hartzi | you can also upload it into openrepos | 14:18 |
| joonahoi | which doesn't pose such restrictions on used libraries | 14:18 |
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| edips_ | hey | 14:18 |
| edips_ | /home/edip/Qt5.2.0/5.2.0/gcc_64/bin/qmake, instead of qmake | 14:19 |
| edips_ | then "make", "make install" | 14:19 |
| edips_ | running an example "/home/edip/Qt5.2.0/5.2.0/gcc_64/bin/qmlscene examples/simple/simple.qml" | 14:19 |
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| juke | joonahoi, any idea of the timetable for qt5systeminfo? | 14:23 |
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| juke | it says in the faq that i could ship those dependencies with the app? | 14:32 |
| joonahoi | juke: no, sorry :/ | 14:33 |
| juke | to the timetable or deps? | 14:35 |
| coderus | juke: it depends on Qt timetable | 14:35 |
| joonahoi | the timetable | 14:35 |
| joonahoi | qt5systeminfo seems to be in repos already | 14:35 |
| coderus | joonahoi: both are in repos | 14:35 |
| coderus | but unstable for harbour | 14:36 |
| joonahoi | yeah | 14:36 |
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| juke | so can i bundle the libs with my app? | 14:41 |
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| roboro | mmm what have I done wrong here... I defined a silicaflickable and it has a pulldown menu etc... when I build... I can see that there is a glow at the top of the screen to indicate that the menu is there... but it just doesn't respond to a pulley-down gesture | 15:21 |
| roboro | nothing in my debug log suggesting anything is wrong | 15:22 |
| roboro | I can run it on emulator or device and the same behaviour... I must have done something wrong | 15:22 |
| roboro | on other pages it works fine | 15:22 |
| roboro | anything obvious to look out for? | 15:22 |
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| roboro | ah... my brackets were in the wrong places :D | 15:26 |
| roboro | my bad | 15:26 |
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| edips_ | have a good coding | 15:28 |
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| lainwir3d | roboro: shit happens | 15:31 |
| lainwir3d | fought with a silicaflickable earlier too | 15:31 |
| roboro | lainwir3d: yeah... took me ages to find that... bloody errant } | 15:31 |
| lainwir3d | (he won) | 15:31 |
| lainwir3d | :) | 15:31 |
| roboro | I'm usually a python dev... surround crap in brackets kills me | 15:32 |
| lainwir3d | hahaha | 15:32 |
| lainwir3d | new to qml/qtquick too | 15:32 |
| roboro | yeah... and so many annoying things :D:D:D | 15:33 |
| lainwir3d | not really used to these languages | 15:33 |
| lainwir3d | especially javascript... ewwww | 15:33 |
| roboro | mmm code is taking a very very long time to develop a pretty simple app | 15:33 |
| lainwir3d | same here. Maybe I should have started with QML / c++ | 15:34 |
| roboro | ho hum... its all part of the learning curve | 15:34 |
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| lainwir3d | probably :-) that's why i'm keeping up ! | 15:34 |
| roboro | yeah... trying to get on top of this now before sailfish catches a real wind :) | 15:35 |
| lainwir3d | hehe | 15:35 |
| lainwir3d | what are you coding ? | 15:35 |
| roboro | simple tune finding app for traditional folk music | 15:35 |
| roboro | there is a site called thesession.org | 15:35 |
| roboro | you can search for tunes there and it gives you abc format | 15:36 |
| roboro | I'm going to make an app for it and then convert the abc to sheetmusic and tab | 15:36 |
| roboro | depending on your settings | 15:36 |
| lainwir3d | oh | 15:36 |
| lainwir3d | nice | 15:36 |
| roboro | thought it would be a nice and simple way to get started... and I play mandolin... so thought it might be handy | 15:37 |
| lainwir3d | seems pretty hard for a first app lol | 15:37 |
| lainwir3d | probably :) | 15:37 |
| roboro | heh... I always run a mile when I see 'hello world' | 15:37 |
| roboro | I like to dive into something complicated to begin with... it takes longer but I learn a lot in one go | 15:38 |
| roboro | so far the basics are down | 15:38 |
| lainwir3d | true | 15:38 |
| roboro | I have a tune database... and the app is able to query the site and download tune info | 15:38 |
| lainwir3d | nearly finished with mine | 15:38 |
| roboro | I'm ironing out some bugs | 15:38 |
| lainwir3d | at least for a first "basic" version | 15:38 |
| roboro | and providing more options | 15:38 |
| roboro | what are you coding? | 15:38 |
| lainwir3d | a RPN calculator | 15:39 |
| roboro | mmm maths wiz? | 15:39 |
| lainwir3d | since I learned to use one I just can't use a normal calculator anymore | 15:39 |
| lainwir3d | maths wiz ? | 15:39 |
| lainwir3d | wiz as in wizard ? | 15:39 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 15:39 |
| roboro | heh yeah... | 15:40 |
| lainwir3d | not really | 15:40 |
| lainwir3d | it's just a different way to enter formulas | 15:40 |
| lainwir3d | it's not that hard to code | 15:40 |
| lainwir3d | easier than a usual calculator | 15:41 |
| roboro | mmm I never got RPN... too lazy to learn | 15:41 |
| lainwir3d | well it's true you needs a few days to adapt | 15:41 |
| lainwir3d | but it's worth it IMO | 15:41 |
| roboro | depends how often you use a calculator | 15:42 |
| roboro | if you're a genius like me... it all happens in your head (NOT!) | 15:42 |
| lainwir3d | hahaha :D | 15:42 |
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| janmalte | I can't get root access to sailfish on the N9. Logging in as nemo works fine, but 'su' and entering the nemo password results in: su: Authentication failure | 15:49 |
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| sremes | janmalte: devel-su? | 15:49 |
| dawnbringer | devel-su should work | 15:50 |
| janmalte | results in: Auth failed | 15:50 |
| janmalte | can I reset the password with mounting on boot as Alt_OS? | 15:50 |
| janmalte | I removed the root password from the /etc/shadow like state here: http://wiki.maemo.org/Sailfish#Step_7_-_Install_Sailfish | 15:51 |
| coderus | janmalte: su requires root passwrd | 15:52 |
| coderus | devel-su requires nemo passwd | 15:52 |
| janmalte | thanks, but devel-su doesn't work with the same password as the login with 'ssh nemo@n9withsailfish' | 15:54 |
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| juke | coderus, now i got what you meant by INSTALLS in .pro file. it solved sharing the qml files issue. thanks! | 15:58 |
| juke | it was like three days ago so you don't probably remember :D | 15:59 |
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| dawnbringer | janmalte, are you sure you edited /etc/shadow correctly? | 16:02 |
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| dawnbringer | janmalte, http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1395095&postcount=678 | 16:05 |
| janmalte | yes, i'm quite sure | 16:05 |
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| dawnbringer | janmalte, and 'su' does ask for password before the error? | 16:17 |
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| dawnbringer | if so, you should not enter anything and just press enter | 16:19 |
| janmalte | yes | 16:20 |
| janmalte | Ok, i will try it | 16:20 |
| janmalte | Same result: Authentication failure | 16:22 |
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| janmalte | Maybe I will try to replace SailfishOS with a new version. | 16:24 |
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| janmalte | I have to use it now, because the Meego on the device got broken and the version is a PR1.3_006. Therefor no reflashing of the device is possible | 16:25 |
| janmalte | I'm using the good old N900 as a fallback device right now | 16:25 |
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| dawnbringer | janmalte: right, I don't even have a Nokia phone so I can't be sure | 16:28 |
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| janmalte | thanks anyway | 16:29 |
| dawnbringer | could you paste the root line your /etc/shadow | 16:29 |
| dawnbringer | +in | 16:29 |
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| janmalte | It is exactly the same as here: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1395095&postcount=678 | 16:34 |
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| dawnbringer | try root::0:0... | 16:37 |
| janmalte | Ok, I will try it later | 16:43 |
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| juke | i think i got the libraries bundled with the rpm | 16:48 |
| juke | but i still need Webkit.experimental | 16:48 |
| juke | can qml libraries be bundled as well? | 16:50 |
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| john24 | hey guys, is there a direct way to contact Jolla harbour staff? | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | developer-care@jolla.com | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | i wouldn't expect much reply until monday though | 17:09 |
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| john24 | I see because I send an update with new icons and screenshots | 17:10 |
| john24 | but they didn't update the icon and deleted the screenshots from the store page | 17:10 |
| john24 | and now all users getting update issues | 17:10 |
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| john24 | sent an email to developer-care hope it get's fixed | 17:15 |
| john24 | also is it possible top make a file browser out of xmllist model? | 17:16 |
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| walokra | ffuuu, got my sdk messed up on os x and decided to start clean. now download.virtualbox.org is not available | 19:40 |
| meShell | http://sourceforge.net/projects/virtualbox.mirror/files/VirtualBox%204.3.6/ | 19:45 |
| walokra | yeah, google found it | 19:46 |
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| walokra | at work fought against oracle's oepe and now with qt :) | 19:47 |
| walokra | some days are not meant for development | 19:47 |
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| meShell | :) yes I know what you mean, have such days, too! Fully motivated to do concentrated work and then something is ***ed up and needs hours to set up again. | 19:50 |
| meShell | hdd crashes .... | 19:50 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | howdy | 20:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | can anyone from the MER team tell me if wayland subsurfaces protocol is supported on sailfish? | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's not, yet | 20:31 |
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| Stskeeps | we're on wayland 1.1.0 | 20:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : thanks | 20:32 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | but it is planned? | 20:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (at some point maybe in the different obscure unknoweable future?) | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | at some point in the different, obscure, unknownable future | 20:32 |
| Stskeeps | bigger fish to try at first | 20:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: bigger fish? which one? | 20:33 |
| Stskeeps | well, qt5.2 | 20:34 |
| Stskeeps | in practice we can't really do much about subsurfaces from a performance pov until then | 20:34 |
| tortoisedoc_ | due to wayland imp on current qt or other reasons? | 20:36 |
| Stskeeps | due to the fact that to draw full advantage of it, you need to be able to integrate well with the hw composer | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | and overllay those subsurfaces as factual hw layers that should composited | 20:37 |
| Stskeeps | and that's not easy in 5.1 | 20:37 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm I thought hw composer is implemented on top of qt? | 20:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (i.e. lipstick?) | 20:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but perhaps this is wrong interpretation from my side :) | 20:40 |
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| Stskeeps | in practice it just flips buffers | 20:41 |
| Stskeeps | it should do so much more | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 20:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok I see, so actual compositor logic is indeed in qml | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | the challenge on the hwcomposer that the jolla1 device has, is that it practically is useful only for let's say, drawing something with opengl and then overlaying random hw buffers on top | 20:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jolla1 ? is there a jolla2 on the way? :D | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | and this means any direct rendering (which becomes a black screen mixed with a overlay) needs to go in lockstep with the qml scenegraph | 20:44 |
| Stskeeps | i just call it jolla1 as it's the first one | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lol | 20:45 |
| Stskeeps | i should have named my son son1.. | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ver 1.0 | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ver 2.0 | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | or better | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | me ver 2.0 | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | me ver 3.0 | 20:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and on if you have more haha | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jokes apart | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so this qml compositor pretty much kills atm the subsurface concept | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | well, not entirely | 20:46 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm no? | 20:46 |
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| Stskeeps | in practice you'll often have a let's say, YUV buffer in your application that you want to overlay with a OSD | 20:46 |
| Stskeeps | and it doesn't make any kind of sense to do that overlaying in the app, just pass it down to the HW composer | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | YUV being video | 20:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | yeah | 20:47 |
| Stskeeps | there's a number of other scenarios where that also makes sense | 20:47 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 20:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | this means Ill have to wait for qt 5.2 then :P | 20:50 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | unless there is another way to get video working on non-fullscreen on current qt.. | 20:51 |
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| meShell | hmmm did someone try to send/receive btrfs snapshots from the phone? Always get "could not resolve root_id " ... | 22:28 |
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| edips_ | hi, is it possible to run PyOtherSide with Android with QT5 and Python3? | 23:10 |
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| smokex | is there a changelog in 1.0.2.5 | 23:36 |
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