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| khertan | Hello | 06:20 |
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| miksuh | I'm seriously starting to tjink that Jolla should have stayi in Qt4 + Qt Mobility | 06:29 |
| miksuh | it's annoying that you can't use gpd, bluetooh, nfc etc | 06:30 |
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| miksuh | with Qt5 | 06:31 |
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| tbr | miksuh: I think the bt code is there, same goes for location | 06:36 |
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| miksuh | tbr: QtPositioning API is available, but it's not stable enough to be accepted by Harbour | 06:45 |
| tbr | ah, harbour... that's a whole different story | 06:46 |
| tbr | I doubt those would be available in harbour if it would be still Qt4.8 | 06:47 |
| tbr | $other_lame_excuse | 06:47 |
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| zuh | Why is API stability lame?-) | 06:55 |
| tbr | I don't believe it's the real reason | 06:56 |
| Stskeeps | for qtpositioning it's the truth though, there's a very nice huge diff somewhere on together.* showing that a more updated qtpositioning in 5.2 is very different ABI/API | 06:58 |
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| AL13N | miksuh: there's DBUS though | 07:05 |
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| supauli | BTW: the emulated sailfish does not have the dbus option, but i guess one could do silly python script that pretends to feed GPS signal | 07:21 |
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| lpotter | stability is the reason. QtLocation/QtPositioning hasn't even been released yet. There are no guarantees the API won't change | 07:21 |
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| supauli | better: make app that can be started inside the emulator that provides the feed, that has all the options via gui, like 'set error rate' | 07:22 |
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| miksuh | AL13N: Any idea if it's possible to get e.list of phon cpntacts usim some dbus query? | 08:00 |
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| miksuh | that would solve the problem caused by the lack of QtContacts | 08:01 |
| coderus | miksuh: QContactsManager is here | 08:03 |
| miksuh | because it's not ready for harbour too | 08:03 |
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| coderus | if you want to go to harbout you should do simple packages like showing web page, some network operations, easy games, fart | 08:34 |
| coderus | and etc. | 08:34 |
| coderus | you cant make something complex for harbour now | 08:34 |
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| miksuh | Well I think I'll just continue developing and use QtContactsm QtPositioning etc. I'm sure some day everything will be just fine and Jolla store acceps apps using those modules etc. Sooner or later QtNfc etc will be available too | 08:36 |
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| coderus | miksuh: thats better choice :) | 08:58 |
| coderus | if harbour wants better apps to be published it should accepth more api :) | 08:59 |
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| tbr | miksuh: if your apps are open source, then feel free to submit them to the Chum community repo on OBS | 09:08 |
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| hoelzro | what is this OBS everyone keeps talking about? | 09:10 |
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| Raim | holkeri: Open Build Service, the instance for Mer is running here: https://build.merproject.org/ | 09:11 |
| Raim | sorry, that was for hoelzro | 09:12 |
| hoelzro | ah, thanks Raim | 09:12 |
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| coderus | tbr: i can push closed binary to OBS with small hacks :) | 09:14 |
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| hoelzro | tbr: the page that Raim link tells me I should ask you about guidelines for the chum repo? | 09:23 |
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| tbr | coderus: and get banned for it | 09:34 |
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| tbr | hoelzro: yes, we're working those out at the moment. Do you have an app on OBS already building against the sailfish target? | 09:37 |
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| hoelzro | tbr: not yet; I'm still pretty new to this whole thing | 09:54 |
| hoelzro | I just learned exactly what OBS is 45 minutes ago =) | 09:54 |
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| tbr | hoelzro: ok, if you need a hand with OBS just holler. But in general it's a good starting point to have a project that builds cleanly on the SDK and then check it into a public git repo and use tar_git on the OBS side. For an example look at how the mosh package is set up. | 09:57 |
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| hoelzro | alright, I'll have a look | 09:57 |
| jake9xx | if compilation passes on sdk but fails on obs (and obs has right buildroots set) - it's a sdk bug most likely | 09:59 |
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| walokra | hmm, have to check out the obs | 10:15 |
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| tbr | jake9xx: or you didn't declare dependencies, but had them installed inside the SDK | 10:29 |
| walokra | hmm, obs needs spec file in rpm | 10:39 |
| tbr | it needs a spec file to build an rpm, yes | 10:40 |
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| walokra | yeah, that's reasonable. just haven't committed it to github as yaml is enough for sdk | 10:41 |
| tbr | ah | 10:41 |
| tbr | not sure if that can be automated. lbt might know | 10:42 |
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| lbt | we could but don't | 10:42 |
| tbr | ok | 10:43 |
| tbr | one thing to be mentioned in the sailfish-obs faq then *mentalnote* | 10:43 |
| lbt | *nod* we could handle it somehow but the yaml file makes it easier to maintain the spec file. OBS needs the spec to do BR calcs | 10:44 |
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| kaltsi | also note that yaml is not required by the SDK.. spec is enough | 10:45 |
| walokra | are people using obs to distribute apps or just to check if it compiles? not sure if I want to add api key to github just for obs | 10:45 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: I'm using a library loaded in runtime containing the api key | 10:48 |
| tbr | walokra: the idea is to use Chum as a community repo for QA'd app distribution | 10:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I distribute the api key contained in this binary | 10:48 |
| walokra | Sfiet_Konstantin: sounds complicated :) | 10:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: it is a sort of obfuscation and don't protect you much | 10:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but better than nothing | 10:49 |
| tbr | think community repository of open source apps, especially open for those that use APIs not yet allowed by harbour | 10:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | walokra: basically, a plugin loaded by QPluginLoader | 10:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's all | 10:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the interface is something like virtual QString getKey() const = 0; | 10:49 |
| walokra | tbr: that's what I was thinking | 10:50 |
| tbr | so yea, once your app builds on OBS, ping me and I'll (for now) do manual QA (just like harbour) and promote it to Chum | 10:50 |
| tbr | in the long run this should be automated a lot, with some automated tests on packages, like if they install/uninstall cleanly, etc. | 10:51 |
| walokra | tbr: have to think about the api key first but I'm keeping that in mind | 10:51 |
| joonahoi | i want to use chum for distributing my small apps in the future as well, but i'm thinking about the api key issue myself | 10:52 |
| joonahoi | also i'm developing using python, so bringing in binary blobs just for the api key seems a bit overkill | 10:52 |
| tbr | walokra: you could have it on obs instead, still in the open, but less than github | 10:52 |
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| joonahoi | also as stated it's just an easily circumvented obfusication, so if someone wants the key, it's easily obtainable | 10:53 |
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| joonahoi | but wouldn't be google indexed and "up for grabs" per default however. | 10:53 |
| tbr | sure, but service t&cs usually ignore that and like to invalidate your key for being on VCSs | 10:53 |
| walokra | tbr: you mean manually package tar with the key? | 10:54 |
| joonahoi | can you suggest some other approach distributing the software api keys? | 10:54 |
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| joonahoi | i prolly could fetch them from my server during the first start | 10:55 |
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| joonahoi | but that would be just adding one layer of nonsense over it | 11:01 |
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| Custodian | tbr: do I get it right? coderus suggests binary blob pushing to chum, and you stated that such dev will be banned from OBS. And Sfiet_Konstantin uses binary plugin, and this is ok? | 11:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Custodian: I'm just part binary stuff, the interesting source is free | 11:07 |
| Custodian | %% is not that important. in coderus example - that part was qtlocation or qtnfc plugins. | 11:07 |
| Custodian | ( i mean that, even with api QString getAPIKey() =0; how can be verified, that there is no other hidden code inside? ) | 11:09 |
| joonahoi | Custodian: i think coderus was sarcastically referencing to yesterdays convo about non-qa'd rpm distribution (insecurities provided by uid0 pre- and post-install hooks in rpm) | 11:10 |
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| Custodian | joonahoi: thats why i asked tbr (-: he is in the flow of convo | 11:11 |
| tbr | Custodian: I said, that pushing a binary build without sources will get you likely banned, as this is for open source | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Custodian: well, trust, but yeah, it is partly hidden | 11:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but I don't like having my API key shown in github | 11:11 |
| tbr | if you are just hiding an API key from plain sight and can demonstrate that when asked, fine in my opinion | 11:12 |
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| Custodian | Sfiet_Konstantin: i know that, that's just an example of mixing open/closed source. | 11:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Custodian: indeed | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the thing is that you cannot do fully OSS | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | sadly | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for a FB client (for example) | 11:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but for many other stuff, this should be fine enough | 11:13 |
| tbr | if someone includes _and_ packages other libraries in their package, that's bad. (I know that harbour encourages this for certain reasons, but OBS is about open source) | 11:13 |
| tbr | to deal with such a harbour induced problem I employed a simple fix. let me find the link | 11:14 |
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| tbr | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=harbour-meepasswords.spec&package=harbour-meepasswords&project=home%3Atbr%3Asailfish&rev=ea9c7ef27b346a19bb72cb7386dac6bf | 11:16 |
| tbr | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file?file=harbour-meepasswords.spec&package=harbour-meepasswords&project=home%3Atbr%3Asailfish&rev=ea9c7ef27b346a19bb72cb7386dac6bf | 11:16 |
| tbr | rm -rf %{buildroot}/%{_datadir}/%{name}/qca | 11:16 |
| tbr | Requires: qca-qt5 | 11:16 |
| tbr | the two changes that make this clean | 11:16 |
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| tbr | (and providing the actual qca-qt5 package as a proper RPM in the same repo | 11:22 |
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| atlaz | How much do i need to pay for someone to build an app for me? | 11:36 |
| valdur55 | atlaz: very muhc! | 11:36 |
| valdur55 | much* | 11:36 |
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| atlaz | so monies | 11:36 |
| Waitee | atlaz: what kinda app do you want? | 11:37 |
| atlaz | Waitee: wait, i'm typing the specs | 11:38 |
| Waitee | i've never built an app before with qt | 11:39 |
| Waitee | but im eager to try :D | 11:39 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: what kind of app ? | 11:47 |
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| atlaz | http://www.atlaz.fi/triplog.txt | 11:48 |
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| atlaz | that one | 11:48 |
| AL13N_lappy | is Dario Freddi here sometimes? or is there a #mer-dev channel someplace? | 11:49 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: prepare money :P | 11:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | AL13N_lappy: #mer ? | 11:52 |
| AL13N_lappy | i found that | 11:52 |
| AL13N_lappy | perhaps all devs are in#mer | 11:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: well, do not look to be hard, but you need to enter the kilometer count all the time | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | is this ok ? | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or do you need the GPS to track it for you ? | 11:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or maybe a computer vision algo to recognize numbers ? | 11:53 |
| atlaz | Sfiet_Konstantin: The most easy is if the software tracks the trip with GPS and suggest the km:s by itself | 11:54 |
| atlaz | With triplog its usally of with 1 or 2 km so i can just add them easilly | 11:54 |
| atlaz | with the android-triplog i mean | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: I can make you a counter easily | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | the GPS won't pass harbour | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: but well, let's say ... not now | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe I can reconsider my offer to dev this app when GPS is allowed in harbour | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (as I'm not having much time now) | 11:55 |
| atlaz | Yeah. Well step one could be that you manually inser the endkm. Startkm you can get from last trips endkm | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: or you can learn to do this | 11:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is not "hard" | 11:55 |
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| atlaz | But Triplog on android was real easy for me. When i came to my car my phone connected to the BT of the car and started tracking the GPS. As soon as i went over 8km/h it started the trip, checked the GPS-coordinates and asked google maps for the address of the place i was. If i had saved this location it gave the name by eg. "home" instead of "Atlazroad 123" | 11:56 |
| atlaz | Then when i left my car the BT disconnected and it stopped the trip, checked the coordinates, addresses and location-database and decided if it was a business or personal trip | 11:57 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | atlaz: this requires several stuff: connect to car bt | 11:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | gps | 11:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | etc. | 11:57 |
| atlaz | Indeed | 11:57 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not easy | 11:57 |
| atlaz | Yeah. But i've come to the conclusion that if its not automatic, i wont use it and it costs me money not to use it | 11:58 |
| atlaz | Triplog-app on Jolla runs manually | 11:58 |
| atlaz | But when it's -25c i really don't want to be starting the trip manually | 11:58 |
| atlaz | But if the development of the app costs more than say 399e i can just as easilly buy a android-phone to use in my car to only save my trips :) | 11:59 |
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| atlaz | Since triplog-app is free and the deluxe-options (BT-autostart) cost me a couple of euros as inapp-purchases | 12:00 |
| atlaz | But i really... really...really would like to give my Jolla a chance | 12:01 |
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| smurfy | hi, i have problems with the sdk on mac (windows works fine), server key rejected for mer sdk vm box. | 12:05 |
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| smurfy | any tipps? | 12:05 |
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| walokra | tbr: about obs, I added tar from github, configured the repositories (only arm) but the build results are empty | 12:09 |
| walokra | tbr: am I missing something? | 12:10 |
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| AL13N_lappy | anyone else want openpvn systemd service? https://together.jolla.com/question/17465/i-want-an-openvpn-systemd-service/ | 12:23 |
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| tbr | walokra: let me have a look | 12:27 |
| tbr | walokra: https://build.merproject.org/project/packages?project=home%3Awalokra - that's empty? | 12:28 |
| walokra | https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=sailimgur&project=home%3Awalokra%3Asailfishos | 12:28 |
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| walokra | or should i put it to main project? | 12:29 |
| joonahoi | smurfy: fresh install, right? | 12:29 |
| smurfy | jooahoi: yes | 12:29 |
| smurfy | joonahoi: i also tried reinstall without applying the update, same problem | 12:30 |
| joonahoi | yup, the update was my bet... | 12:30 |
| smurfy | using: SailfishOSSDK-Alpha-1312-Qt5-mac-offline.dmg | 12:31 |
| smurfy | on windows no problem, only happens on mac (maverick) | 12:31 |
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| joonahoi | smurfy: what does it say if you go to Qt Creator preferences | 12:36 |
| joonahoi | and in the Mer - menu item "Connection" -> Test connection | 12:37 |
| joonahoi | (after booting up the Mer VM ofc) | 12:37 |
| smurfy | server rejected key | 12:37 |
| joonahoi | try Authorize key button | 12:38 |
| joonahoi | and test again | 12:38 |
| smurfy | pressed it multiple times already, says key already authorized (and deleted keys too) | 12:39 |
| joonahoi | mmh | 12:39 |
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| tbr | walokra: taking a look | 12:41 |
| walokra | tbr: it's just a test package as it doesn't contain the api key | 12:41 |
| joonahoi | smurfy: did you run all the updates under SailfishOS - tab in the Qt Creator? | 12:44 |
| tbr | walokra: https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log?arch=armv8el&package=sailimgur&project=home%3Atbr%3Asailfish&repository=latest_armv7hl | 12:46 |
| tbr | walokra: do you have building disabled maybe? | 12:46 |
| tbr | as it's building for me | 12:46 |
| smurfy | joonahoi: no, doing it right now, thx for the tip did not try that | 12:46 |
| tbr | also rpmlint chokes on it, at least 2 errors to be fixed | 12:47 |
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| tbr | wonder why SDK didn't complain | 12:47 |
| joonahoi | smurfy: np, hope you get it running | 12:48 |
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| walokra | tbr: didn't notice a setting to disable build | 12:48 |
| smurfy | joonahoi: still does not work, i will take a look inside the mer box now. hoped it was something i missed, so i went here. | 12:49 |
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| walokra | tbr: what's the difference between armv8el and v7el. you used v8 as also mosh and no v7. isn't jolla v7? | 12:50 |
| walokra | hmm, now it build also for me with v8el | 12:52 |
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| tbr | walokra: ah, that's a trick / old workaround. it needs to build for armv7hl, which is aliased to armv8l | 12:53 |
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| tbr | another one for the faq, thanks | 12:53 |
| walokra | :) | 12:53 |
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| walokra | the obs complains about somethings which the sdk generates automatically to yaml and spec | 12:54 |
| walokra | "standard-dir-owned-by-package /usr/bin" | 12:55 |
| tbr | lbt / jake9xx ^^^ | 12:55 |
| tbr | (I know nothing about this stuff) | 12:55 |
| lbt | tbr: I think we'd need a harbour target too. I'm not sure what the minimal OBS target provides | 12:56 |
| tbr | k | 12:57 |
| lbt | AL13N_lappy: openvpn ... the device uses connman to manage vpns | 12:57 |
| lbt | AL13N_lappy: check this channels logs - I've discussed it before :) | 12:58 |
| lbt | tbr: also the sdk/harbour spec file is .... not up to the OBS' standards :) | 12:59 |
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| tbr | heh | 13:00 |
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| tbr | but I've seen nice and clean packaging build out of the box also for OBS | 13:00 |
| tbr | so probably if you clean up the OBS complaints it's going to pass harbour for sure (modulo harbour specifics like including library binaries etc) | 13:01 |
| lbt | I think the community template is technically better - could be that | 13:01 |
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| lbt | yes, I'd say so | 13:01 |
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| kaltsi | smurfy: did you solve your problem already? | 13:06 |
| smurfy | kaltsi: nope | 13:07 |
| smurfy | i added my own public key but no luck either | 13:07 |
| kaltsi | smurfy: try this; exit qt creator; rm -rf ~/.config/SailfishAlpha3; restart qt creator | 13:07 |
| radiofree | oooh battery went up from 28% to 38% after i reboot my phone | 13:07 |
| radiofree | that's one efficient boot | 13:08 |
| kaltsi | smurfy: alternatively, exit everything; virtualmachines and qtcreator.. then rm -rf the config directory and reinstall | 13:08 |
| mikhas | a free recharge, radiofree | 13:08 |
| radiofree | i will reboot my phone 6 more times and i should have a full battery! | 13:09 |
| smurfy | kaltsi: already deleted ~/SailfishOs and reinstalled no luck | 13:09 |
| Yaniel | and they say rebooting takes a lot of power | 13:09 |
| kaltsi | smurfy: the .config directory is important | 13:09 |
| smurfy | did that too | 13:10 |
| smurfy | i can't connect via console ssh and the key either | 13:10 |
| kaltsi | smurfy: could you open the mersdk virtual machine from the virtualbox manager so that you get its window? | 13:10 |
| smurfy | yes | 13:11 |
| smurfy | the shared vm directories are mounted and the authorised keys is accessable | 13:11 |
| kaltsi | smurfy: ok when it's running like that use the hostkey+f2 to get a console.. login as root | 13:11 |
| kaltsi | check ifconfig, what interfaces do you have there | 13:11 |
| smurfy | eth0, eth1 and lo, | 13:12 |
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| kaltsi | smurfy: what's eth0 and eth1 ip addr? | 13:12 |
| kaltsi | they are internal networks, so don't worry, we can't access them from here :) | 13:13 |
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| smurfy | the ssh connection itselfs works but not the pub key. (10.0.2.15 eth0 and 10.220.220.254 for eth1) | 13:13 |
| kaltsi | ok.. hm curious | 13:13 |
| smurfy | itty to connect over the port forward | 13:13 |
| kaltsi | those ip addresses are correct | 13:13 |
| smurfy | ssh mersdk@127.0.0.1:2222 -i ...... | 13:14 |
| kaltsi | ok.. if you do -v -v -v -v to the ssh command, do you get any extra useful info? | 13:14 |
| kaltsi | btw what's your install directory? ~/SailfishOS ? | 13:15 |
| kaltsi | and which OSX and virtualbox version | 13:15 |
| smurfy | not really on that it tries the key and it fails | 13:15 |
| smurfy | yes default ~/SailfishOs | 13:16 |
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| smurfy | 4.3.2 virtual box and 10.9.1 osc | 13:16 |
| smurfy | i could upgrade virtual box but i don'T think thats the problem | 13:17 |
| kaltsi | I have about the same at home.. maybe a bit newer virtualbox, but that's not a problem | 13:17 |
| smurfy | all my other vagrant vms works | 13:17 |
| kaltsi | can you login to the emulator? | 13:17 |
| kaltsi | ssh -p 2223 -i ~/SailfishOS/vmshare/ssh/private_keys/SailfishOS_Emulator/nemo nemo@localhost | 13:18 |
| lbt | fyi virtualbox is silent if it fails to do the port fwd thing. Also I *think* I've seen this kind of thing fixed by stopping vbox and then killing/stopping the helper services | 13:18 |
| smurfy | emulator test over creator works | 13:18 |
| smurfy | console too | 13:19 |
| kaltsi | unless restarting vbox works, then I'm out of ideas | 13:19 |
| smurfy | ah fuck i'm stupid | 13:21 |
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| smurfy | sek i have an idea :D | 13:21 |
| smurfy | works now :), one of my vagrant boxes already used port 2222 so i connected to the wrong machine all the time, thanks for your help guys | 13:22 |
| kaltsi | heh :) | 13:23 |
| gdbfan | I would need to get a stack trace from a crash of my program. Any advice? | 13:23 |
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| kaltsi | gdbfan: ssh to device and run it there in gdb or set coredumpsize so that one is created | 13:24 |
| smurfy | Is there a way to integrate my app settings to the sailfish settings menu? | 13:24 |
| gdbfan | does the gdb work in virtualbox? | 13:25 |
| kaltsi | yes.. login to the emulator with ssh | 13:26 |
| gdbfan | great, trying that next, thanks | 13:26 |
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| kaltsi | gdbfan: the gdb debugging from qtcreator is broken, but being worked on | 13:27 |
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| supauli | valgrind? | 13:28 |
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| kaltsi | can be used too | 13:29 |
| supauli | i mean: does valgrind work on device / emulator | 13:29 |
| kaltsi | both | 13:29 |
| supauli | oh great | 13:29 |
| supauli | i mean really, after valgrind amount of 'bt' commands on gdb has dropped dramatically ;) | 13:30 |
| kaltsi | yeah it's a great tool | 13:30 |
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| AL13N_lappy | lbt: they don't exclude eachother, but connman vpn handling is a big ? , cause there | 13:35 |
| AL13N_lappy | 's no UI to manually connect | 13:35 |
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| AL13N_lappy | would it connect always? | 13:35 |
| AL13N_lappy | noone knows | 13:35 |
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| walokra | yei! "sailfish_1.0.2.5_armv7hl armv8el succeeded" | 13:39 |
| Dima^ | mine jolla wont update to 1.0.2.5 | 13:40 |
| Dima^ | any advices why? | 13:40 |
| Dima^ | i've reseted it early today | 13:40 |
| Hartzi | hey, does anyone know that is there any way to copy data from a ListModels ListElements withouth using a SilicaListView(or any other listview)? | 13:41 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: at least this will allow me to open 1 of multiple possible openvpn tunnels manually | 13:42 |
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| AL13N_lappy | (and since it'll be in mer, there will not be an issue) | 13:42 |
| lbt | AL13N_lappy: yep - nb .. did you do the Mer pr? | 13:42 |
| AL13N_lappy | lbt: check the link in the together post :-) | 13:42 |
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| AL13N_lappy | http://review.merproject.org/#change,1653 | 13:43 |
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| coderus | Hartzi: listModel.get(index).field? | 13:45 |
| Hartzi | coderus: hmm.. yes :D that's it | 13:46 |
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| coderus | but why you have listModel if dont want to use in ListView? | 13:46 |
| Hartzi | using it in the other place | 13:47 |
| artemma | Hartzi: same model can be used in multiple views | 13:47 |
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| artemma | and i think it's actually a good idea usually, keeps things consistent and in sync as, well, there's nothing to sync - it's same model :) | 13:48 |
| Hartzi | yes but I'm copying a data to create a pins onto a Map | 13:48 |
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| artemma | yeah, then get() is your friend as coderus told | 13:49 |
| Hartzi | yes, hopefully :) | 13:49 |
| artemma | Hartzi: a real-real cool implementation though would be to create a special view that could monitor model and add/remove pins whenever model updates ;) | 13:49 |
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| Hartzi | if the listmodel is on a differend qml-file, do I need to import that file first? | 13:50 |
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| Hartzi | artemma: yes :D but I'm not there yet. | 13:50 |
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| Hartzi | basic things first | 13:50 |
| artemma | Hartzi: you need to pass the model somehow. Importing QML file will. well, import definitions from that file, I guess you are not interested in them | 13:51 |
| artemma | just pass the pointer to model via properties | 13:51 |
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| artemma | or signals-slots depending on how you use it and if whole model object can change | 13:51 |
| Hartzi | artemma: what if a listmodel is the only thing in that file? Is importing good way to do it in that case? | 13:53 |
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| artemma | Importing will import the types defined in the QML | 13:53 |
| artemma | so it could potentially be useful if you want to create another instance the model type (and maybe fill it with same data) | 13:54 |
| artemma | but I can't see how to do it easily anyway. | 13:54 |
| Hartzi | I'm not touching the data. Just reading it | 13:54 |
| artemma | Well, you can do a special QML that will just define a very specific model type already with the data, but.. why? | 13:54 |
| artemma | All the list models are of same type ListModel, you don't need to import anything extra for using it | 13:55 |
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| Hartzi | okay maybe I didn't explain my problem correctly | 14:00 |
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| Hartzi | but if I need to acces a data that is defined in a ListModel I need to create QtObject model proverty on a page where I need the data? | 14:04 |
| Hartzi | property* | 14:05 |
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| artemma | Hartzi: simplest way [to me] would be to create a var property, that will be filled at the moment of page creation/pushing. Or even later | 14:17 |
| Hartzi | artemma: like var property name: PageName? | 14:18 |
| artemma | Hartzi: for example see how Wikipedia fills BrowserPage url property https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/blob/master/src/qml/pages/BrowserPage.qml | 14:18 |
| artemma | for example, from AboutPage https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/blob/master/src/qml/pages/BrowserPage.qml | 14:18 |
| artemma | you can pass list model same way | 14:18 |
| smurfy | on my physical device the calendar app segfaults, what the best way to create a bug report / debug it? | 14:20 |
| Hartzi | artemma: okay | 14:21 |
| coderus | can i disable linebreak in TextArea when implementing EnterKey.onLicked? | 14:24 |
| coderus | *onClicked()? | 14:24 |
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| joonahoi | onLicked sounds like way more intresting ui event | 14:32 |
| Hartzi | hmm it seems that I need to create a model outside a view. I dont know how to declare that I have model and it's in file x. Yes I know that I can do it in a view just declaring "model: PageName {}" but how I dot it outside a view? | 14:32 |
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| roboro | the icons need to be really really good looking for the onLicked event to work | 14:33 |
| joonahoi | deliciously beautiful even | 14:34 |
| roboro | :) | 14:34 |
| * lbt wonders if you could actually detect that event.... sounds plausible | 14:35 | |
| roboro | we need to be careful... onLicked may be patented by Apple | 14:35 |
| coderus | so, noone want to try and help? | 14:39 |
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| joonahoi | would if could, maybe you could try just string replacing \n from the textarea afterwards | 14:43 |
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| joonahoi | but sounds like the hook gets captured after the default action in chain | 14:44 |
| coderus | i need linebreaks in text, i dont need linebreak by enter | 14:46 |
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| coderus | and i need textarea, i cant use textfield | 14:47 |
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| suosaaski | so... whats the chance of success in installing sailfish to a cheapish android tablet (Lenovo A1000L)? | 15:20 |
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| joonahoi | coderus: don't know if it's possible but you could try getting the cursor position and removing the newline at cursor position-2 | 15:37 |
| joonahoi | it's a hack, but can' think of better way to handle it | 15:38 |
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| coderus | joonahoi: yeah, its the only way i see | 15:56 |
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| artemma | coderus: TextArea can have validators, can't it? If yes, then maybe your validator can reject anything that includes newline char | 16:28 |
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| artemma | ah, Silica's TextArea is built just for Silica, isn't based on Qt text stuff.. | 16:33 |
| Hartzi | wtf is this: [W] QQmlComponentPrivate::beginCreate:845 - QQmlComponent: Component is not ready | 16:33 |
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| Hartzi | why it isn't ready? | 16:34 |
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| artemma | coderus: I believe you can intercept Enter key using Keys objects inside the TextEdit (that is inside TextArea).. or Keys next to it. You'll need to play with event bubbling and focus hierarchy | 16:37 |
| artemma | It might be so that Silica's TextArea doesn't surface enough of internals for it, but probably it does (I don't remember QML key handling very well) | 16:38 |
| artemma | coderus: check this doc for an example: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qdeclarativefocus.html You'll need to put Keys element on the way of even bubbling and filter out Enter key presses there | 16:39 |
| Venemo | artemma: in the inside, it probably uses just a QML TextEdit | 16:40 |
| artemma | TextArea internally uses TextEdit for sure, I checked it just now | 16:40 |
| artemma | yet coderus probably won't even need to know these details. I think you can still put Keys inside and intercept/filter key presses there | 16:41 |
| artemma | you may or may not need to mess with focus groups and active focuses, I don't remember these concepts by heart | 16:41 |
| artemma | with focus scopes* | 16:41 |
| Venemo | about the enter key, see https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/blob/master/ui/misc/TextEntry.qml#L54 | 16:42 |
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| coderus | artemma: Keys.onReturnPressed inside TestEdit worked, thanks! | 17:05 |
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| artemma | coderus: cool! Good luck with making it all work then! | 17:05 |
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| juke | is is possible on use symbian qml elements in sailfish? it seems that symbian has a lot of nice things like selectiondialog and checkbox | 17:24 |
| juke | if not, is there somewhere a list of higher level elements that can be used, i've only found things like colordialog, which are not that necessary | 17:26 |
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| tbr | juke: have you seen the component gallery in the emulator? | 17:33 |
| juke | i'll check it out | 17:34 |
| coderus | juke: Silica have awesome ComboBox and Switch | 17:35 |
| juke | this is really helpful, thanks a lot! | 17:36 |
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| John24 | hey guys got a very silly question | 19:27 |
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| John24 | can we use Qt Creator 3.0 for sailfish app development? | 19:27 |
| TSCHAKMac | I would say no, at this point. | 19:27 |
| John24 | so Qt creator that comes with sailfish is a custom one? | 19:28 |
| TSCHAKMac | yes. | 19:28 |
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| John24 | Ahhh I see, thank you | 19:28 |
| * TSCHAKMac does find it funny that he has 6 different Qt Creator setups :P | 19:28 | |
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| TSCHAKMac | has anyone tried to port a purely SDL app over to run on Sailfish (or Mer, for that matter?) | 19:29 |
| TSCHAKMac | especially given that it's all Wayland now? | 19:29 |
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| John24 | SDL I think only supports Xlib doesn't it? | 19:30 |
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| TSCHAKMac | SDL 2.x should be able to do GLES | 19:31 |
| John24 | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQzNjU | 19:32 |
| TSCHAKMac | looks like there is RPi support using Wayland | 19:35 |
| TSCHAKMac | this can be massaged over | 19:35 |
| * TSCHAKMac wants to port MAME/MESS/UME over :) | 19:36 | |
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| John24 | if enought people join in could a whole project to port it | 19:36 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.1-21. Fixed contacts sync. :) | 20:57 |
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| jupaja | Hi guys the XMPP/Jabber ca.cer Issue can be fixed!! —> http://lunarius.fe80.eu/blog/jolla-jabber-certificate.html (Thanks to http://lunarius.fe80.eu/blog/author/alexander-couzens.html) | 21:10 |
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| hannes102 | Hi there, I'm trying to use QtWebKit in my app and I'm kind of stuck. Has anyone used it? | 22:03 |
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