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| tanghus | Naïvely I thought this search would lead to some relevant docs - it doesn't ;) https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sailfish+silica+glassitem | 00:13 |
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| mfulz | does someone know how I could list the interface of a dbus method? | 01:29 |
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| celeron55 | method? | 01:32 |
| mfulz | my problem is that I want to remove via connman (net.connman.vpn.Manager.Remove) a vpn connection | 01:35 |
| mfulz | but I don't know how the object should look like | 01:35 |
| mfulz | Just always receive ConnectionsModel::ConnectionsModel:275 - QDBusMessage(type=Error, service="", error name="org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod", error message="Method "Remove" with signature "(oa{ss})" on interface "net.connman.vpn.Manager" doesn't exist | 01:35 |
| mfulz | but I don't find anywhere how the signature should look like :( | 01:36 |
| celeron55 | gdbus introspect --system --dest net.connman.vpn --object-path / | 01:46 |
| celeron55 | that gives something at least | 01:46 |
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| mfulz | thanks that's what listed in the api docs as well but what is o exactly!? | 01:47 |
| celeron55 | http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/connman/connman.git/tree/doc/vpn-manager-api.txt?id=HEAD | 01:47 |
| celeron55 | this is the doc on the same thing | 01:47 |
| celeron55 | it's "object"... i have no idea what that is 8) | 01:47 |
| mfulz | yep that's exactly my issue :/ | 01:48 |
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| celeron55 | http://dbus.freedesktop.org/doc/dbus-specification.html#basic-types | 01:53 |
| celeron55 | it's a string that is a "a syntactically valid object path" | 01:54 |
| celeron55 | maybe you could listen on one of the signals that give out those "o"s and see how they look like | 01:55 |
| mfulz | hm | 01:59 |
| mfulz | afaik it should be the remove method inside this file http://git.kernel.org/cgit/network/connman/connman.git/tree/vpn/vpn-manager.c?id=HEAD | 02:00 |
| mfulz | but how can I pass a objectpath to dbus iface.call in qt :/ | 02:01 |
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| mfulz | ah found something I'll give it a try | 02:04 |
| celeron55 | QDBusObjectPath sounds "a bit" like it | 02:05 |
| mfulz | yep but you need to to do call(type, method, qVariantFromValue(QDBusObjectPath)) | 02:06 |
| mfulz | finally | 02:07 |
| mfulz | now I just need need to find a solution for the generell issue I've got with connman not getting the interface up and ready | 02:07 |
| mfulz | then my client is nearly finished in the first version :) | 02:07 |
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| artemma | I set QMAKE_RPATHDIR to /usr/share/myApp/lib and .so files are present there, yet at runtime app fails to locate them :/ | 04:25 |
| artemma | /usr/bin/harbour-libTrial: error while loading shared libraries: liblibTrialLib.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 04:25 |
| artemma | launching same using LD_LIBRARY_PATH works fine: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/share/harbour-libTrial/lib/ /usr/bin/harbour-libTrial | 04:29 |
| artemma | app's makefile seems to mention it fine too: LFLAGS = -Wl,-rpath,/usr/share/harbour-libTrial/lib | 04:30 |
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| artemma | no worries, re-running qmake and cleaning solved it :) | 04:40 |
| krig | what's the right way to play sound on the jolla? SoundEffect from QtMultimedia plays at full volume and acts strange | 04:42 |
| krig | found this thread from 2011 with exactly the same problem: http://developer.nokia.com/Community/Discussion/showthread.php/232015-QML-SoundEffect-working-for-anyone | 04:43 |
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| Sviox | What's a proper way to access and modify cover page from the actual page? Let's assume we want to change one of the buttons based on a property of the active page. | 10:06 |
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| Sviox | Or just simply change the label on the cover.. | 10:08 |
| Elessar | Sviox: there several ways, firstly you can give your applicationwindow a unique id and access it's properties from the cover like 'text: application.someTextProperty" | 10:11 |
| Elessar | secondly you can assign cover property not by url but by Component object, so you will have direct access to context object | 10:12 |
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| Sviox | Do you know a good example from either? I'm still trying to piece together the basics of QML ;) | 10:16 |
| Sviox | For example, since the ApplicationWindow is defined in [packagename].qml, can I just add an ID there and then access a property of it on any subpage/cover? | 10:17 |
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| Sviox | Do I need to import the main qml file to the page files to access it using the id? | 10:19 |
| Sviox | Or do some other similar trick.. | 10:20 |
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| mohjive | I downloaded and build a project, but when launching it in the emulator I get "Cannot exec /opt/sdk/MyProject: Permission denied" | 10:25 |
| mohjive | anyone seen it before or know what to do about it? | 10:26 |
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| mohjive | also, if anyone can describe for me how one defines different include paths/variables depending on choosing x86 or arm7 build | 10:30 |
| mohjive | I have an external library that I need to link with and I want to know how to automate the -lexternal_library part for the linker (or search path) | 10:31 |
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| Sviox | Elessar: ping | 10:32 |
| Elessar | Sviox: sure, take a look: https://github.com/euroelessar/cutereader/blob/master/sailfish/qml/cutereader.qml , https://github.com/euroelessar/cutereader/blob/master/sailfish/qml/cover/CoverPage.qml | 10:32 |
| Sviox | Thanks, I will | 10:33 |
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| Sviox | Elessar: Nice, I got it working | 10:37 |
| Sviox | Next question: Can I move UI object from the page I'm showing to the Cover? I'm asking because it would be nice to show a preview of a web page currently shown on the page on the cover while app is inactive. | 10:38 |
| Bloob | if you don't specify a cover, it should automatically use the page iirc | 10:40 |
| Elessar | Bloob: if cover is not specified it fallbacks to "private/DefaultCover.qml" | 10:41 |
| Sviox | Okay, in that case, bad example. I actually only want to do this dynamically on certain occation. | 10:41 |
| Bloob | Elessar, okay thx for clearing it up | 10:41 |
| Sviox | And with actually letting the web content know that it's "minimized" to show different content in some cases. | 10:42 |
| Elessar | Sviox: may be you want to use ShaderEffectSource | 10:42 |
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| Elessar | it can "copy" visual data from items | 10:42 |
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| Sviox | I see, interesting.. | 10:43 |
| Elessar | so you can pass your active item to it and cover will show it | 10:43 |
| Sviox | So how can I access item with id x on my page from the cover? | 10:43 |
| Sviox | are the ids global? | 10:43 |
| Elessar | not global, the are in hierarchy | 10:44 |
| Elessar | so child see all id's of it's ancestors | 10:44 |
| Sviox | In this case, what is the relation between a page and the cover page? | 10:45 |
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| Elessar | they both are silbings of ApplicationWindow | 10:46 |
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| coderus_ | i'm getting this when using ssu: | 10:52 |
| coderus_ | [D] NetworkService::setPath:447 - void NetworkService::setPath(const QString&) "Method "GetProperties" with signature "" on interface "net.connman.Service" doesn't exist | 10:52 |
| coderus_ | anone? | 10:53 |
| coderus_ | anyone? | 10:53 |
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| Sviox | Should I be able to get this kind of reactive mode to work on the cover page qml: application.onNameOfProperty: { /*Do something*/}? | 10:54 |
| Sviox | Oh wait, I guess it needs Changed to the end.. | 10:55 |
| Elessar | Sviox: use Connections object for it | 10:55 |
| Sviox | I tried that first but didn't get the reaction called | 10:56 |
| Sviox | I'll try again with the Changed at the end of the property name.. | 10:56 |
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| Sviox | Btw, why does "Project ERROR: Could not connect to MerSDK Virtual Machine. The remote host closed the connection" always keep appearing after a while? | 10:57 |
| coderus_ | you need onXXXCHanged ofc. :) | 10:57 |
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| Sviox | Hmm, still not working | 11:00 |
| Sviox | unless.. damn, yet another typo | 11:01 |
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| Sviox | Elessar: I now have the webview shown on cover via ShaderEffectSource, but I use application.webView as a source and I set thet in my page QML. How do I point directly to the webView? Something like pageId.webviewId? | 11:25 |
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| Elessar | Sviox: you can create "property WebView webView: webviewid" in you page | 11:26 |
| Sviox | Okay, that's what I did on the applicationWindow | 11:26 |
| Elessar | and access it for example by application.pageStack.currentPage.webView | 11:27 |
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| Sviox | Just what I was looking for :) | 11:30 |
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| tortoisedoc | ahoi all | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | has anyone ever noticed in qmlextensionplugins | 11:57 |
| tortoisedoc | if no qmlRegister is called in the registerType, initializeEngine is not executed? | 11:58 |
| tortoisedoc | is this intentional? | 11:58 |
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| Sviox | Where can I find the icon-cover-x icons coming with theme to pick from? | 12:03 |
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| Sviox | Elessar: There is one issue with using ShaderEffectSource. It doesn't seem to repaint itself when the webView is modified. Any ideas why not? I.e. it shows the same old thing even if the webpage itself is changing. | 12:13 |
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| Sviox | Does sailfish disable somehow the items on pages when app is not active? | 12:18 |
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| w00t | Sviox: define disable | 12:19 |
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| Sviox | Well the ShaderEffectSource seems to redraw (or rather, reaquire content) only when I visit the page again or in some way manipulate the size of it etc. | 12:22 |
| Elessar | hm | 12:23 |
| Elessar | yes, looks like it'c caching data | 12:24 |
| Sviox | the 'live' attribute is enabled already | 12:24 |
| Sviox | You mean the page or the SHaderEffectSource? | 12:25 |
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| jmlich | Hi, can anyone help me with Jolla Harbour QA? My app was rejected because of not allowed dependency (qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning) | 12:31 |
| Sviox | Elessar: lol, got it to work by creating timer that decreases webview size by 0.01 every second, which seems to force it to redraw :P | 12:32 |
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| Sviox | Though there must be a better way.. | 12:32 |
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| Elessar | Sviox: erm | 12:34 |
| Elessar | looks like it's better to call ShaderEffectSource's scheduleUpdate() | 12:35 |
| Sviox | I tried, no luck | 12:36 |
| Sviox | To me it seems like the problem is not the ShaderEffectSource but rather the (Silica)WebView itself | 12:37 |
| Elessar | hm, by default ShaderEffectSource's live property is true, so it should be up-to-dated | 12:37 |
| Sviox | Yes, and as I said, I tried setting it to false and running scheduleUpdate() once per second with a timer --> no dice | 12:38 |
| Elessar | Sviox: did you try to call WebView's update method? | 12:38 |
| Sviox | Does it have one? | 12:38 |
| Elessar | QQuickItem has it | 12:39 |
| Elessar | and it's a public slot | 12:39 |
| Sviox | okay | 12:39 |
| Elessar | so it can be called from the QML | 12:39 |
| Sviox | I'm trying | 12:39 |
| Sviox | Nope | 12:40 |
| Elessar | no luck? | 12:40 |
| Sviox | Calling it within same timer where the height trick works via application.pageStack.currentPage.webView.update(); | 12:40 |
| Sviox | No :( | 12:40 |
| Elessar | is it expensive to create second WebView? | 12:40 |
| Sviox | It's a no go because I would need to have the same javascript context | 12:41 |
| Sviox | I'm planning on creating a JS event sent to the page that tells that the viewmode has changed from 'fullscreen' to 'minimized' | 12:42 |
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| Elessar | oop | 12:43 |
| Elessar | Sviox: sailfish default browser has this: "cover: undefined" | 12:43 |
| Elessar | if it can help | 12:43 |
| amccarthy | jmlich: Qt Positioning is not API stable until 5.2. It won't be allowed until Qt is updated to 5.2. | 12:44 |
| jmlich | amccarthy, what can I do? | 12:45 |
| jmlich | Is there an workaround? | 12:46 |
| amccarthy | jmlich: wait :) | 12:46 |
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| Pnuu | jmlich: perhaps disable the part needing the feature needing that dependency? | 12:48 |
| Pnuu | -redundancy | 12:48 |
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| Elessar | Sviox: and it has CoverActionList defined right as Page's child | 12:50 |
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| tuukkah | jmlich, *maybe* via libQt5WebKit.so.5 which is allowed | 13:01 |
| jmlich | tuukkah, wow seams like challenge .. | 13:02 |
| tuukkah | jmlich, exactly =) | 13:03 |
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| coderus_ | hey sailors | 14:27 |
| coderus_ | did you ever got text zoom bug in applications? | 14:27 |
| coderus_ | when you choosing selected text | 14:28 |
| coderus_ | interface zooming it | 14:28 |
| coderus_ | but not zooming out when you releasing | 14:28 |
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| tortoisedoc | grr | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc | any qml expert here? | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc | if no qmlRegister is called in the registerType, initializeEngine is not executed? | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc | (of a qqmlextensionplugin) | 15:16 |
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| Sviox | Where can I suggest libraries as told on https://harbour.jolla.com/faq ? I would very much like to get libarchive into the whitelist since that's a very stable API/ABI and commonly available. Also, I don't know if there is currently any other way to unzip packages within app.. | 15:29 |
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| wellu_ | Apparently I cannot have import qrc://... in my Harbour app. Took 6 *days* to get rejected by that. | 15:30 |
| Pnuu | holidays | 15:30 |
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| wellu_ | Pnuu: I hope this kind of thing is checked by a script. | 15:31 |
| wellu_ | anyway, I couldn't find a reason for rejecting qrc:// imports. | 15:31 |
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| wellu_ | if one has to *prefix* imports with harbour.APP then how do I import directories? | 15:41 |
| wellu_ | I cannot prefix directory path with my APP name... | 15:42 |
| wellu_ | so I cannot really build a modular app where QML files are in different directories as I cannot import them without violating Harbour rules. Does not make sense. | 15:43 |
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| Elessar | wellu_: what's about import "harbour-myapp/some/other-strange/qml" ? | 15:45 |
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| Elessar | also why to you need to import by absolute path? | 15:46 |
| wellu_ | Elessar: what about "import ../module" ? | 15:46 |
| Elessar | wellu_: import "../module" ? | 15:47 |
| wellu_ | yes, it breaks the rule. | 15:47 |
| wellu_ | it is QML directory import | 15:47 |
| wellu_ | "give me all the QML elements one directory down in 'module' subdirectory" | 15:48 |
| Elessar | harbour rejects any directory imports? | 15:48 |
| wellu_ | I got rejected by having qrc:// type of import in my code. | 15:49 |
| Elessar | At least example and sailfish browser have 'import "pages"' | 15:49 |
| Elessar | wellu_: store files in /usr/share/your-app/ directory | 15:49 |
| wellu_ | Now that I read the FAQ it states that " But you have to prefix the name of the imports with your $NAME..." | 15:49 |
| wellu_ | How do I prefix a directory import? | 15:50 |
| Elessar | it consumes less memory than qrc | 15:50 |
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| Elessar | can you give me link please? | 15:50 |
| wellu_ | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 15:50 |
| wellu_ | with qrc you compile the plain text QML files within the binary. They need to be loaded anyway so there is no memory impact either way. | 15:51 |
| wellu_ | It is not clearly stated at all that qrc: is not allowed. | 15:52 |
| wellu_ | they only talk about "prefixing" | 15:52 |
| Elessar | wellu_: why can't you install your qml modules to /usr/share/harbour-yourapp/imports/harbour/yourapp ? | 15:54 |
| Elessar | so it will be accessable by 'import harbour.yourapp' | 15:54 |
| Elessar | in case if you add this import path to your QQmlEngine | 15:55 |
| wellu_ | hmm.. that could work. | 15:55 |
| Elessar | at least FAQ tells me right this | 15:55 |
| w00t | wellu_: i'm reasonably sure that that rejection was a mistake | 15:55 |
| w00t | wellu_: which application is this | 15:56 |
| Sviox | Is ALL resource file usage forbidden then or just QML? | 15:56 |
| w00t | resource file usage is fine | 15:56 |
| wellu_ | I got rejected by having an import clause in QML that was not *prefixed* with my app name. | 15:56 |
| w00t | wellu_: again, which application was this | 15:57 |
| wellu_ | w00t: Bitcoined | 15:57 |
| w00t | I can't do anything about it without knowing what to ask about | 15:57 |
| w00t | ok, thanks | 15:57 |
| wellu_ | What I'm after here is two things: 1) is qrc://... imports illegal and 2) how do I do relative directory import with the current Harbour ruleset | 15:58 |
| w00t | wellu_: I already said that they aren't | 15:58 |
| wellu_ | ok | 15:58 |
| entil | oh god, spent a couple of hours importing phone calls from the n900 into jolla and only now it turns out a) the n900 doesn't store phone calls lengths b) jolla tells the difference between outgoing calls and aborted outgoing calls by whether or not startTime = endTime :D | 15:58 |
| w00t | relative paths are ok, provided it stays inside your folder | 15:59 |
| entil | maybe every phone call will have lasted a second | 15:59 |
| wellu_ | w00t: yes of course. | 15:59 |
| wellu_ | w00t: but none is then prefixed with harbour.bitcoined | 15:59 |
| w00t | entil: yeah, commhistory is a little .. special | 15:59 |
| w00t | wellu_: doesn't matter | 15:59 |
| wellu_ | ok | 15:59 |
| entil | hehe yes | 15:59 |
| entil | I'm going to publish rpms and I really hope people aren't dismayed by fake-duration calls | 16:00 |
| entil | anyway, no evidence anyone would ever run this but me :D | 16:00 |
| wellu_ | having these import rules is kind of silly as people can do whatever inside main.cpp | 16:00 |
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| Elessar | wellu_: they can be checked by strace | 16:01 |
| wellu_ | Elessar: not really, if you do them, say 24 hours *after* the installation. | 16:03 |
| wellu_ | even linking can be done runtime | 16:03 |
| wellu_ | so I don't really see the point of checking how people name their *private* QML files. Nothing to do with making the device better. | 16:04 |
| wellu_ | Elessar: what I meant was saying that most problematic part for the whole system is the native part that gets run. I don't see any harm what "wrong" import can do. | 16:07 |
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| wellu_ | almost like someone would check the order of includes in the C++ side :) | 16:09 |
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| matoking | What's the best way to dynamically add menu items to a pulley menu? | 16:14 |
| matoking | I thought I could either add menu items using a method or by binding it to a model, but neither one seems to be possible | 16:14 |
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| Elessar | matoking: model + repeater | 16:17 |
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| Sviox | How do I disable/hide a CoverAction? What's the correct attribute? | 16:20 |
| Sviox | visible seems to break the thing and use default cover instead.. | 16:21 |
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| wellu_ | w00t: I just removed the qrc: import. I still do have couple of import "../pages" etc. type of relative directory imports. Those should be ok? | 16:33 |
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| tortoisedoc | wellu import qrc:// from qml I assume? | 17:10 |
| tortoisedoc | dang too late :P | 17:10 |
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| Sviox | How can I display my own application icon on app cover? | 17:23 |
| Sviox | Or rather, how do I point it out.. | 17:23 |
| Sviox | icon.source: "image://theme/icon-cover-play" works for icons coming from theme, but app icon is another story.. | 17:24 |
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| Elessar | Sviox: file:///usr/share/applications/....png ? | 17:26 |
| Sviox | Oh.. okay :) | 17:27 |
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| coderus_ | Sviox: image://theme provider working for any cached icons | 18:00 |
| coderus_ | its not strict to themes directory | 18:00 |
| coderus_ | image://theme/harbour-yourapplication will display your launcher icon | 18:00 |
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| Elessar | coderus_: oh, haven't known it | 18:06 |
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| coderus_ | its why harbour asked not to use full path to icon in your desktop files | 18:17 |
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| coderus_ | its why harbour asked not to use full path to icon in your desktop files | 18:24 |
| coderus_ | oops sorry :) | 18:24 |
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| Hartzi | coderus_: how you have done the contact list in mitakuuluu? I'm trying to make a similar list with pic, title and subtitle but I can't find a reference from your github :| | 19:25 |
| Andy80 | coderus_: I never remember... what is the url where to download mitakuluu from? | 19:27 |
| Andy80 | nope found :) | 19:29 |
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| Andy80 | uff... I was just trying openrepos to eventually host my app, but it's so slooooooow :/ | 20:14 |
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| Andy80 | finally https://openrepos.net/content/andreagrandi/sailsoma | 20:19 |
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| John24 | hello guys :) | 20:28 |
| John24 | got a question about icon.source: "image://theme/icon-l-repeat" | 20:28 |
| John24 | does anyone have a list of all the icons in "image://theme/ ??? | 20:29 |
| John24 | I am adding player controls but I am just blind guessing what's in there and what's not | 20:29 |
| celeron55 | what kind of submission requirements do openrepos.net have? | 20:29 |
| Hartzi | Andy80: can you give a reference code how did you make that channel list? | 20:30 |
| Andy80 | Hartzi: full source code is available https://github.com/andreagrandi/sailsoma | 20:34 |
| Andy80 | celeron55: ehm.... you just subscribe and upload your rpm :P | 20:35 |
| celeron55 | though so; they don't state anything anywhere so had to make sure | 20:36 |
| Hartzi | Andy80: channelDelegate defines how the info is seen? | 20:36 |
| Andy80 | Hartzi: how the info is seen... inside a ListView component, of course the item is repeated for each channel in my case | 20:37 |
| Hartzi | ok | 20:38 |
| Hartzi | thx | 20:38 |
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| Elleo | John24: ls /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/ | 20:42 |
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| Elleo | John24: just remove the .png from the end and add image://theme/ to the beginning of any of those files | 20:42 |
| John24 | cool would you happen to know if I coudl see them on the PC are their part of the sdk? | 20:44 |
| Elleo | John24: they're on the emulator, but they're not identical | 20:45 |
| Elleo | seems some have changed since then | 20:45 |
| Elleo | you might want to just scp them all from the device | 20:45 |
| John24 | yeah i'll have to | 20:47 |
| John24 | thank you for the help though :) | 20:47 |
| Elleo | no worries :) | 20:47 |
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| coderus | Hartzi: you cant make delegate or what? | 20:51 |
| coderus | John24: find /usr/share/themes/jolla-ambient/meegotouch/icons/ | 20:52 |
| coderus | so slow me :D | 20:53 |
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| John24 | don't worry :) thanks for posting though | 20:53 |
| John24 | how you do add padding from the left? | 20:54 |
| coderus | specify please | 20:54 |
| John24 | I got row{ button, button} | 20:54 |
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| John24 | but their all the way to the left edge | 20:54 |
| John24 | I want them away from the edge by 20 pixels | 20:55 |
| coderus | Row { anchors.left: parent.left; anchors.leftMargin: Theme.paddingLarge; Button {}; Button{}; } | 20:55 |
| coderus | and same for right | 20:55 |
| coderus | use anchors | 20:56 |
| coderus | always use anchors | 20:56 |
| John24 | i see i've been looking at Jolla example code and their not using them all | 20:56 |
| John24 | well a bit their using sections and rows alot | 20:56 |
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| John24 | before I can my whole ui using anchors | 20:56 |
| coderus | in most cases you'll set anchors to parent item | 20:56 |
| John24 | ahh i see I will try that now, Thank you :) | 20:57 |
| coderus | and all childrens will be anchored | 20:57 |
| John24 | yay it worked like a charm | 20:59 |
| John24 | Thank you coderus, I am learning so much every day | 20:59 |
| John24 | really fun | 20:59 |
| Hartzi | coderus: I just wasn't sure how to do it | 21:00 |
| John24 | also does qml string have a replaceAll command like c++ does? I can't seem to find it | 21:01 |
| Elleo | John24: I expect you could do it with a regular expression, QML is javascript based | 21:04 |
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| John24 | ah I see I'll look it up, thanks | 21:06 |
| Elleo | no problem | 21:06 |
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| coderus | Hartzi: just try, its easy | 21:10 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: tried many times :D but now it seems to work | 21:13 |
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| John24 | does anyknow know if the sailfish icons have to folow the power of 2? | 21:24 |
| John24 | 32 64 128 256 etc? | 21:24 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: how I can make similar hilight effect when a list item is clicked? | 21:55 |
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| artemma | is it possible to check if network connection is up and running? If there is non-essential part of app that benefits from network (I am into porting Mixpanel app stats package), I don't want to start connection just for myself and can wait until user goes online anyway | 23:34 |
| artemma | I think in Harmattan there was something for bundling such non-essential network access needs together. Anything like that in Sailfish? | 23:35 |
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