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| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, what do you think about: http://abload.de/img/harbour-friends2repxr.png | 00:08 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I used to have this icon | 00:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | https://github.com/SfietKonstantin/friends-qml/blob/master/src/bin/shared/data/friends.png | 00:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know what you can do with it | 00:10 |
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| Morpog_PC | so round one? | 00:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: dunno | 00:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what do you think ? | 00:13 |
| Morpog_PC | better than sqaure, as it would look too much like official one | 00:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep indeed | 00:15 |
| Morpog_PC | or one of that new jolla shapes | 00:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah don't know | 00:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will think about icon later on | 00:15 |
| Morpog_PC | do you still know what font that was? | 00:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | nope | 00:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it was not my work | 00:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | so fragment failed to compile with error: | 00:20 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | *** Fragment shader *** faied | 00:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | failed | 00:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :/ | 00:21 |
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| slate | go with something like http://paasio.com/friends_sailfishos_mockup1.png | 00:30 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | slate: looks good | 00:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or maybe like the jolla store shape | 00:35 |
| Morpog_PC | jolla shape wouldn't work | 00:47 |
| Morpog_PC | http://abload.de/img/harbour-friends5lzpex.png | 00:47 |
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| slate | http://paasio.com/friends_sailfishos_mockup2.png just to see how it would look.. | 01:01 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | slate: not bad | 01:03 |
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| smokex | 2 works better but the bottom of the f gets a bit too close to the rounding | 02:21 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Anyone have a clue about how xdg defaults are managed on Sailfish? I tried to edit it but get file not found, so I assume we would need to be creating our own | 03:06 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache | 03:16 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: or what you want? | 03:16 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: Thanks - I'll look at it now - I just want to be able to use xdg-open to manage a few file types. Looking to make a File Manager | 03:17 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Not a fan of Jolla-Fileman | 03:17 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: what types you want override? | 03:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | audio/mpeg for one | 03:19 |
| MFaro-Tusino | xdg-open does nothing | 03:19 |
| MFaro-Tusino | and it makes sense as mimecache does not have it | 03:19 |
| coderus | Qt.openUrlExternally() ? | 03:20 |
| coderus | you dont need to use cli tools in Qt | 03:20 |
| coderus | (you making application, right?) | 03:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I know how to do it in Qt | 03:21 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I was looking for a way to make it defaulted, so that downloading a file, will open | 03:21 |
| MFaro-Tusino | At the moment, it doesn't | 03:21 |
| MFaro-Tusino | (at least hasn't for me) | 03:21 |
| coderus | which extennsion? | 03:22 |
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| coderus | i'm getting bugreports about some media files doesnt opening when downloading and clicking it to open in Mitakuuluu. | 03:23 |
| coderus | it can be system-side bug | 03:23 |
| MFaro-Tusino | so far .mp3 | 03:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | but now running xdg-open after fiddling with mime seems to have bricked the mediplayer | 03:24 |
| MFaro-Tusino | running it via term, I get a fair few errors popping up - trying a reboot | 03:24 |
| * coderus uploading mp3 to phone to test :) | 03:27 | |
| coderus | no default action for the given PARAMS, sadly | 03:27 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | hence why I was trying to use xdg-mime default jolla-mediaplayer.desktop audio/mpeg | 03:29 |
| coderus | jolla-mediaplayer have no command for passing an url | 03:32 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I learnt that the hard way | 03:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | haha | 03:33 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: yes. jolla-mediaplayer just CANT open a fileurl | 03:42 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Coderus: Qt.openUrlExternally works though? | 04:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Ignore that - tested and failed | 04:06 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: no. jolla-mediaplayer have NO option to open media. no way. | 04:14 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Yes - its okay - I found a way around it - just dont use jolla-mediaplyer | 04:15 |
| coderus | :D | 04:22 |
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| smokex | lol | 04:30 |
| smokex | yeah QtMultimedia works fine if you use the media player example from Qt | 04:30 |
| MFaro-Tusino | smokex: exactly what I am doing. Now just trying to get video playback to show the video - it just plays audio atm | 04:31 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: using GStreamerVideoOutput? | 04:35 |
| MFaro-Tusino | i was using qmultimedia | 04:37 |
| coderus | use GStreamerVideoOutput qml element | 04:39 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Okay thanks :) | 04:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Ergh, this is infuriating haha | 04:54 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: Any chance you could point to docs on GStreamerVideoOutput qml ? | 06:53 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Had trouble finding them and then resorted to QtMultimedia Video element but with little success | 06:53 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6638083/ | 07:18 |
| MFaro-Tusino | use that as a custom qml component? | 07:19 |
| coderus | oh, i found VideoPlayer element in Sailfish.Media 1.0 | 07:26 |
| coderus | try it first :) | 07:26 |
| coderus | it using GStreamer | 07:26 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: I'll try now - thanks | 08:07 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | I'd need to add it in dependencies wouldn't I? | 08:12 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ahoy christmas sailors! | 08:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: i have made some progress on the gdb thingie | 08:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lbt: drop me a line when you are around | 08:29 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (cross-gdb) | 08:30 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: you around? | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: sortof | 08:40 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 08:40 |
| Stskeeps | why? | 08:42 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | is there a way to get when the page is popped? | 08:51 |
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| Stskeeps | MFaro-Tusino: how's the jolla treating you, btw? | 08:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Loving it! | 08:52 |
| MFaro-Tusino | A few things I am frustrated with (like lack of MMS) but I just remind myself this is Beta SW still - so it will only get better | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. and by seeing together.* we'll work on the things people actually want :P | 08:54 |
| Waitee_ | the default keyboard should have numbers and some special letters behind long pressing | 08:55 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I'll be adding a few things there soon :) | 08:55 |
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| pp_ | maybe some crazy person will port fMMS :-) | 08:55 |
| Stskeeps | Waitee: it does on some layouts | 08:56 |
| Waitee | nice | 08:56 |
| Waitee | wish i had that with the finnish layout :D | 08:57 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | stskeeps: Any insight into why jolla-mediaplayer cannot be used for audio/mpeg or video/mpeg mime defaults? | 09:02 |
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| Stskeeps | mpeg2? | 09:03 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I was using mp3 and mp4 | 09:04 |
| Stskeeps | not offhand, triple check the codecs involved | 09:04 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | not meaning codecs - as in xdg-open *.mp3 won't work | 09:05 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: you can use active property of ApplicationWindow | 09:05 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: Thanks - got it working though :) Just going to tweak the ui and submit pull request | 09:05 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: jolla-mediaplayer have no command line or dbus option to apss parameter to play file via associations :9 | 09:06 |
| raa70 | coderus: mitakuuluu doesn | 09:06 |
| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: btw, what you doing? | 09:06 |
| raa70 | t activate from events screen | 09:06 |
| coderus | raa70: i know. i dont know why its happening :( | 09:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: I am adding video and music support for a open source file manager app in the Store. The dev uses xdg-open, so it gives you errors. Fixed it up to know use QtMultimedia and VideoPlayer if mp3 or mp4 :) | 09:08 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: good :) | 09:10 |
| MFaro-Tusino | s/know/now | 09:10 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I am thinking to easily use this for Tweetian as well | 09:10 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: sounds like a good together.* item | 09:11 |
| coderus | :D | 09:11 |
| coderus | btw | 09:12 |
| coderus | can i add together ask to fix together notification emails? :D | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | you can edit your notification emails in settings somewhere | 09:12 |
| Stskeeps | i removed most of them for me | 09:13 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: i like them, but its useless, because it have no link to related question :D | 09:13 |
| coderus | just "blah-blah, user xyz answered in abc: blah-blah. go to together site yourself, search for this question yourself and write your answer" :D | 09:14 |
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| coderus | okay, created both together quesions :D | 09:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: nm | 09:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Is there a specific reason mms are not currently supported? | 09:24 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: time | 09:26 |
| Stskeeps | we do have a good guy for it now though | 09:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps : aah ok, was wondering if it was some more problematic issue like ip's etc | 09:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (or lack of operator's support etc) | 09:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: mer gdb is python-based right?= | 09:27 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 09:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (or relies on python?) | 09:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | great | 09:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so that might explain the missing higlights | 09:28 |
| * tortoisedoc_ runs off to rebake gdb with python | 09:28 | |
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| raa70 | got couple of contacs under # which show only number, when i long press them to open menu they just disappear, if i restart people they appear again | 09:32 |
| MFaro-Tusino | YAY! Finished implementing the video player inside the file info page for file-browser | 09:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | lets hope the dev approves my pull :D | 09:33 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: what component you used? | 09:43 |
| MFaro-Tusino | VideoPlayer from Sailfish.Media | 09:44 |
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| coderus | good :) | 09:49 |
| Nicd- | raa70: are they companies? I have all my companies listed below # as numbers but when I open them, they are sorted back to their correct place | 09:50 |
| Nicd- | maybe that happens for you too | 09:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | booo python on cygwin comes with 40 MB of dependecies ;__; | 09:51 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *80 | 09:52 |
| Pnuu | of course it does | 09:53 |
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| coderus | Any ideas why icon in notifications not transparent? it have white background. | 10:01 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Stskeeps: What is the technical name of the Jolla device? "The Jolla" or "Jolla" or jPhone :p | 10:01 |
| suy | as ridiculous as it might sound, is it possible to install on the phone the components gallery? the one with all the controls | 10:01 |
| suy | MFaro-Tusino: the finPhone :P | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | suy: should be. deploy from the SDK like any other app? | 10:02 |
| MFaro-Tusino | suy: why not pkcon install qt-components-qt5-gallery ? | 10:02 |
| Stskeeps | MFaro-Tusino: i call it my precious. | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | suy: think it's sailfishsilica-qt5-demos | 10:03 |
| suy | MFaro-Tusino: ok. I still have to learn that stuff. That one has the Silica ones too? | 10:03 |
| Stskeeps | or something like that | 10:03 |
| suy | Stskeeps: ah, ok | 10:03 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | suy: apologies, mine was the harmattan style components | 10:04 |
| suy | I'm still a bit confused by all those tools. I'm used to use debian and nothing else. All those features from Mer/suse/whatever (?) for managing repos and packages are quite new to me | 10:05 |
| suy | So far I've seen zypper (that's standard from desktops, right?), ssu, pkcon, etc. | 10:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | suy: as was i - I chose zypper as its easier | 10:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | though i give instrucions in pkcon as it is default | 10:06 |
| MFaro-Tusino | and also how the system installs apps, so i've been told | 10:07 |
| jake9xx | i use pkcon as it does not require root access | 10:07 |
| suy | OK. So pkcon is a frontend to package kit, nice | 10:07 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | it is actually quite confusing the first time with the tools; especially for those who come from harmattn | 10:08 |
| tortoisedoc_ | *harmattan | 10:09 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: because its rpm-based? | 10:15 |
| jake9xx | coderus: haven't sent you mail yet; don't have any mail accts on mobile devices atm | 10:16 |
| jake9xx | coderus: but biggest things on beta3: phonebook sync jams the app if pb is big.sometimes pulley is hard to open; suspect a qml item focus issue there? | 10:18 |
| coderus | jake9xx: fixed pulley for next release. issue in pressDelay properties :) | 10:19 |
| coderus | and what in phonebook sync? means opening phonebook? | 10:19 |
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| jake9xx | open is ok; selecting all is where it jams | 10:21 |
| coderus | hm, okay, i'll check | 10:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Anyone else have the issue where Documents says "Pull down to add document" yet no pulley menu? | 10:29 |
| Nicd- | o/ | 10:30 |
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| coderus | MFaro-Tusino: there is not implemented dropbox documents loader | 10:33 |
| raa70 | MFaro-Tusino: +1 | 10:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | raa70: Glad it isn't just me | 10:34 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | There are definitely obvious signs of "Beta" here and there | 10:35 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I really want the N9 terminal - FingerTerm is crap - in my opinion | 10:35 |
| jake9xx | MFaro-Tusino: you do not have and docs that can be opened with that app | 10:36 |
| jake9xx | for any change requests please go to together.jolla.com | 10:37 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | jake9xx: I will be - just needed to double check as I am writing my review atm | 10:37 |
| Nicd- | MFaro-Tusino: I thought fingerterm is the n9 terminal | 10:38 |
| flux | nope, fingerterm came much later | 10:38 |
| MFaro-Tusino | xterm was N9 iirc | 10:38 |
| flux | well no, it wasn't really xterm either | 10:38 |
| flux | but the main point is that it displayed terminal and keyboard separately | 10:39 |
| Pnuu | IMO fingerterm is quite nice, although there are couple of glitches (that I'll report to t.j.c later) | 10:39 |
| ShadowJK | it hangs rather frequently for.me | 10:39 |
| ShadowJK | and the kbd could do with a 10x faster cpu | 10:40 |
| flux | the downside of doing that was the text area was reduced and that it sent a screen resize signal when it appeared/disappeared | 10:40 |
| flux | I seriously doubt a 10x faster cpu would help | 10:40 |
| flux | :) | 10:40 |
| flux | but the keyboard's haptics are off. and yes, it draws itself slowly as well.. | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | FingerTerm feels really good to me | 10:41 |
| flux | somehow it's very difficult to write as precisely with it as it is with the normal vkb. of course it's smaller, so that doesn't help. | 10:41 |
| ShadowJK | seems harder even in landscape wjer t's huhe | 10:41 |
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| ShadowJK | lickng fingers seems to help for me | 10:42 |
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| flux | is the harmattan terminal source code available? | 10:43 |
| mikelima | flux: it is fingerterm... | 10:44 |
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| mikelima | https://github.com/nemomobile/fingerterm | 10:44 |
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| suy | In the developer mode settings page, there is one entry about "developer updates" under SSU that requires registration. Which user registration is that? Harbour? | 10:50 |
| MFaro-Tusino | suy: Not yet for external use i believe | 10:50 |
| suy | MFaro-Tusino: ok. Thank you | 10:51 |
| Nicd- | and don't try to log in | 10:51 |
| Nicd- | it will screw up your store and stuff | 10:51 |
| Nicd- | even if the login fails | 10:51 |
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| mikelima | oh, sorry, the harmattan one... It is based on the Konsole code... I downloaded it once for the desktop.... | 10:55 |
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| mikelima | well, I think it is based on this one: https://github.com/qterminal/qterminal | 11:00 |
| coderus | jake9xx: or anybody: what the reason of lack QuickSearch/FastScroll for ListView in Silica? I already implemented my own FastScroll, but :D | 11:00 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu - WhatsApp client for SailfishOS. Get it: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/mitakuuluu Discuss it: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1400694#post1400694 | 11:17 |
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| crysaz | great name :) | 11:20 |
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| * suy found "Mitaa Kuuluu? which means the finnish feeling and mentality; Who Do You Do?" is that right? | 11:21 | |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu is Whats'up? ;) | 11:22 |
| crysaz | not sure about the first part, but latter is exact | 11:23 |
| crysaz | allthough we don't use the phrace in the same way brits does. | 11:23 |
| suy | salutations are weird. "how do you do?" looks quite odd if you think of it. I'm learning Japanese and is even more weird. Whath they use is literally translated as "please be nice to me". | 11:26 |
| Nicd- | "Mitä kuuluu"* | 11:30 |
| Nicd- | gonna install that now | 11:31 |
| Nicd- | thanks and merry christmas coderus :) | 11:31 |
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| Nicd- | haha | 11:34 |
| Nicd- | got notifications for all my pending messages as soon as I registered | 11:34 |
| Nicd- | ding dong ding dong ding dong ding dong | 11:35 |
| Sidde | a very important finnish phrase is otherwise: Ei saa peittää | 11:35 |
| MFaro-Tusino | coderus: Can't scroll page in mittakuluu | 11:35 |
| Sidde | It's something most swedes know anyhow ;) | 11:35 |
| Nicd- | MFaro-Tusino: which page? | 11:36 |
| MFaro-Tusino | nicd-: contact sync | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | MFaro-Tusino: also mittakuluu made me smile :D | 11:36 |
| MFaro-Tusino | did i speel it wrong? | 11:36 |
| MFaro-Tusino | *spell | 11:36 |
| Nicd- | mitakuuluu | 11:37 |
| MFaro-Tusino | sorry | 11:37 |
| Nicd- | yay, I got my contacts synced | 11:37 |
| Nicd- | coderus: I think there's too much stuff in the main screen pulley menu | 11:37 |
| Nicd- | can't even pull it all the way if I start pulling from the wrong place | 11:38 |
| ShadowJK | sidde: taskulamppu paljon lunta | 11:39 |
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| jani | Nicd-: :D | 11:40 |
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| Nicd- | it works! | 11:41 |
| Nicd- | \o/ | 11:41 |
| Nicd- | coderus <3 | 11:41 |
| jani | Mitakuluu = measure is wearing out.. | 11:41 |
| jani | erm.. | 11:41 |
| jani | Mitta kuluu .. that is. | 11:41 |
| Andy80 | if you smiled, imagine me :) | 11:42 |
| Andy80 | kukuu is veri similar to "culo" spelled with south Italy accent :D (that means "ass") | 11:43 |
| Hartzi | coderus: very nice app. | 11:43 |
| Andy80 | kuulu | 11:43 |
| jani | kuuluu = hear something .. kuu luu = moon bone ;) | 11:43 |
| Nicd- | kuuluu is also moon bone | 11:44 |
| Nicd- | it's a compound word | 11:44 |
| Sidde | ShadowJK: not as common but yes, (it's something like that atleast) | 11:44 |
| jani | yeah it is but emphasis with space for non finnish speakers =) | 11:44 |
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| locusf | hmm I have already used whatsapp android client so it doesnt work | 11:53 |
| Hartzi | coderus: I consider you to change "Load old conversation" to come from downside. | 11:53 |
| Nicd- | locusf: so have I and it worked | 11:54 |
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| locusf | Nicd-: oh | 11:54 |
| locusf | at least cant import contacts | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | what happens instead? | 11:55 |
| locusf | app freezes on select all | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | known bug apparently | 11:56 |
| Nicd- | mine freezed for a while but I waited | 11:56 |
| locusf | ok | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | funny how the "app is frozen" popup says "Please Wait" | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | instead of "Wait" | 11:57 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: still around? | 12:00 |
| tortoisedoc_ | does anyone in here have experience with building cross-gdb? | 12:02 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | i got it to run fine on win from device | 12:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but qtcreator is missing all the highlights and turns to disasm by default :/ | 12:03 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: not for rpm themselves, but for different toolset | 12:04 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm seems like ill have to dig into qt.. | 12:08 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 12:08 |
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| Superpelican_ | Is there anyone who knows if the Silica Components are officially open source? | 12:10 |
| Superpelican_ | (I thought they were BSD licensed) | 12:10 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: or nvm. It seems that you already changed it in the newest version =) | 12:13 |
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| coderus | Superpelican_: ML files commented area saying its BSD licensed, right :) | 12:38 |
| coderus | Hartzi: changed what? i didnt get what you mean, sorry ._. | 12:38 |
| coderus | tortoisedoc_: ? i never build gdb, sorry :( | 12:38 |
| coderus | and thanks everybody for supporting my application :) | 12:38 |
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| Stskeeps | Superpelican_: qml looks bsd licensed so people can customize components | 12:46 |
| Superpelican_ | Stskeeps: What's the reason then that the Silica Components are not used in the new Nemo? | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | well, silica is closed source otherwise and a completely different ui.. | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:47 |
| Superpelican_ | Are the Silica Components closed source too or just the Sailfish UI? | 12:48 |
| coderus | Superpelican_: means binary components/plugins are closed | 12:49 |
| Superpelican_ | so for example the Pulley Menu isn't fully open source? | 12:49 |
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| pcfe | question, where do I RTFM if I know how to build a src.rpm with rpmbuild/mock/koji but want to know how to do this with the SailfishOS IDE/ | 12:50 |
| coderus | and i agreed with Nemo, it should have own solid ui. i like "Thinkpad" cursor point in keyboard and some other small good features :) | 12:50 |
| Superpelican_ | coderus: Yes, but if they create yet another QML Controls Set there will be even more fragmentation | 12:51 |
| coderus | pcfe: IDE for Qt projects | 12:51 |
| Superpelican_ | How many developers will there be that will make different versions of their app for Nemo/Qt4, Nemo/Qt5, Sailfish Silica and Harmattan? | 12:52 |
| coderus | Superpelican_: so? any projects have own components set. its okay. native environment and i.e. | 12:52 |
| pcfe | coderus: AH, OK, Qt only. Good to know. What's the build procedure for system RPMs? | 12:52 |
| pcfe | or rather where do I RTFM? At the mer project? | 12:52 |
| coderus | pcfe: login to Mer Build machine and do some mb/mb2 magic with spec files :) | 12:52 |
| coderus | Superpelican_: how long you developing QML? | 12:53 |
| Superpelican_ | well | 12:53 |
| Superpelican_ | not that long ;) | 12:53 |
| Superpelican_ | coderus: https://bitbucket.org/Superpelican | 12:53 |
| Superpelican_ | I do have experience porting a Silica app to Qt5 Desktop ;) | 12:54 |
| Superpelican_ | Fortunately I was able to reuse my C++ logic | 12:54 |
| Superpelican_ | As I just have one Logic class | 12:54 |
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| Juhi24 | o/ | 13:03 |
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| Juhi24 | I have a strange problem with the emulator. My new app uses QtQuick.XmlListModel which I have installed for my target. The app however does not run and i get a warning: [W] unknown:32 - file:///opt/sdk/poiju/usr/share/poiju/qml/pages/FirstPage.qml:32:1: module "QtQuick.XmlListModel" is not installed | 13:09 |
| Juhi24 | import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 | 13:09 |
| Juhi24 | Is there someone who can help me? | 13:10 |
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| Juhi24 | My first app so there could well be something that i noobishly missed | 13:11 |
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| coderus | Juhi24: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-xmllistmodel should be installed on phone/emulator | 13:13 |
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| jani | Juhi24: put the name coderus mentioned into dependency and use deploy as rpm .. | 13:16 |
| Andy80 | hi | 13:16 |
| Andy80 | is anyone able to tell me what's wrong with this very simple example of code http://pastebin.com/dx3w2fw9 what I expect: I expect to see the header and a list of numbers below. What I see: I just see the header text :/ | 13:17 |
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| Juhi24 | coderus: I think I already installed it for the emulator. Jani: Sorry, stupid question, but how do you put it as dependency? | 13:19 |
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| coderus | Andy80: at least delegate have no geometry | 13:19 |
| coderus | Andy80: and i see no reason to use listview inside flickable for your example. you can add pageheader and pulldown to silicalistview, its designed for that. | 13:20 |
| Andy80 | coderus: I took example from this (that works) http://pastebin.com/CJW63MzG the only difference is that I put my SilicaListView inside a SilicaFlickable | 13:21 |
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| coderus | Juhi24: open yaml file in project tree, there are Dependencies | 13:21 |
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| Andy80 | oh... this is another story then... | 13:21 |
| coderus | Andy80: i see, just rename SilicaFlickable to SilicaListView and add model with delegate :) | 13:21 |
| Andy80 | from what I've read on the documentation, it looked like the SilicaFlickable was mandatory to have a pull down menu | 13:22 |
| coderus | Andy80: SilicaFlickable OR SilicaListView ;) | 13:22 |
| Andy80 | coderus: right... my bad again.. let me try again :) | 13:22 |
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| Andy80 | it works! | 13:27 |
| Andy80 | thanks coderus :) | 13:27 |
| Juhi24 | Here too! Many thanks coderus and jani! | 13:28 |
| Andy80 | do you think it will be difficoult to port this code https://github.com/andreagrandi/CuteSoma/tree/bb10/qml/CuteSoma to SilicaUI QML? | 13:30 |
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| coderus | Dry_Lips: i dont think QML porting can be even difficult :) | 13:31 |
| Nicd- | coderus: thanks for mitakuuluu! | 13:32 |
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| Andy80 | what can I use in place of import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0 ? | 13:40 |
| coderus | Andy80: i didnt get what you mean, sorry :) | 13:42 |
| Andy80 | coderus: in my CuteSoma I was using the XmlListModel component... where do I import it from in Jolla? | 13:42 |
| Andy80 | coderus: here for example http://qmlbook.org/ch06/index.html#a-model-from-xml they say to import it from "import QtQuick.XmlListModel 2.0" but if I write this, QtCreator underline it with red... like a non existent one | 13:43 |
| coderus | Andy ignore QtCreator warning :) | 13:44 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: shhh don't tell anyone! it's almost working :D I see the image list... not everything else (text, description etc,....) but it's a start :) | 13:48 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: I'm trying to fix errors here and there... but probably my delegate had some weird layout errors... so probably it's better if I design it from scratch. After all it's not so complicated... it must display an image in the left (and it's doing it) and some labels on the right | 13:58 |
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| Dry_Lips | coderus: you pinged me, I believe it must have been a mistake... I didn't ask about QML porting ;-) | 14:07 |
| coderus | Andy80: use anchors for complex layout, and use rows/columns for simple | 14:07 |
| Dry_Lips | But here is a general question... Is it likely that Sailfish OS will be ported to a various of devices, in the same was as CyanogenMod has been, or will we mostly have to buy a Jolla if we want Sailfish OS? | 14:09 |
| coderus | Dry_Lips: lets see how libhybris performance | 14:10 |
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| Dry_Lips | Okay, so it's still an open question whether or not Sailfish OS will be ported to various devices? | 14:12 |
| pp_ | it's certainly been ported, releasing is a different matter :-) | 14:15 |
| Dry_Lips | pp_ aha... I cannot afford a Jolla at the moment, which is why I wonder if there are any existing ports to other phones out there | 14:20 |
| Pnuu | N9 atleast | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | coderus: would you consider putting mitakuuluu on BitBucket or some similar site so everyone can log issues? | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | emailing the dev is not an optimal way to report stuff | 14:21 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Dry_Lips: nexus? | 14:21 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Dry_Lips : n9 | 14:22 |
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| Dry_Lips | Right.. So, what does it take to create a port for a device? | 14:22 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: for now post in TMO thread: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92160 | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | I don't have a TMO account, but I do have BitBucket and Github accounts :P | 14:28 |
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| coderus | :D | 14:38 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: hey, you can write me message here, in irc, just in private chat :D | 14:56 |
| jani | just starting up with Silica & qml .. Take this componenent for example: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-combobox.html .. it doesnt list any signals or base class that would list those .. is it really so that Combobox doesnt have signals ? =)) | 14:57 |
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| suy | coderus: whatever is good for you is what you should use, of course, but the advantadge of sites like bitbucket or github, is that is easier for others to see if there is an issue already reported | 14:57 |
| Nicd- | coderus: yeah, but then all the others won't see it. that --^ | 14:58 |
| suy | that is, assuming you use the issue tracker :) | 14:58 |
| Nicd- | but of course it's your choice | 14:58 |
| coderus | jani: each property have onPropertyChanged signal. for example menu have property active. you can listen for onActiveChanged: { if (active) { /* do something */ }; } | 14:59 |
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| coderus | suy: i know. but i dont want to setup it just for report. in worst case i know what to add/improve myself. peoples just sorting it in some order. | 15:00 |
| jani | coderus: thanks. will check that. | 15:01 |
| coderus | jani: most popular example with Page. you can listen for onStatusChanged: { if (status === PageStatus.Activating) { /* do something before page showed */ }; } etc. | 15:03 |
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| coderus | suy: maybe after New Year. i have something to think about | 15:06 |
| jani | coderus: or apparently, onClicked on each MenuItem will archive the same thing .. | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | coderus: if you plan on doing it, setting up an issue tracker is as simple as checking a box when you create a new project, at least on bitbucket | 15:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmhm | 15:07 |
| jani | Nicd-: and on github its there by default afaik =) | 15:07 |
| coderus | jani: clicked() is signal ;) | 15:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | does anyone know if the debug symbols are automatically deployed with rpm deployment on device | 15:07 |
| jani | coderus: thats what i was asking =) | 15:07 |
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| coderus | tortoisedoc_: as far i remembed in debug build yu'll get packagename_gebuginfo and _debugsource. and i dont think its installed automatically | 15:09 |
| jani | anyway, gotta say one thing .. while working on harmattan, i had huge dislike against qml .. now i can't belive why it it felt like that. | 15:09 |
| coderus | jani: MenuItem based on MouseArea element | 15:09 |
| tortoisedoc_ | coderus: thanks, that could explain my weird debugging | 15:10 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | grrr | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | now i have all the locals | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but still no highlighting of current step ;| | 15:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 15:16 |
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| krandom | is anyone working on an openvpn gui for sailfish? | 15:24 |
| krandom | I'm considering it myself, but I don't know how much time I will have in the next few months. | 15:24 |
| Pnuu | krandom: https://together.jolla.com/question/305/vpn-client/ | 15:24 |
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| Pnuu | ah, but no gui | 15:25 |
| krandom | yes, noticed it. I've already installed it and it works pretty well I would say. | 15:26 |
| Pnuu | upvoting the gui-comments might be helpful :-) | 15:27 |
| krandom | will do :) | 15:27 |
| Pnuu | there was another one, too | 15:28 |
| Pnuu | https://together.jolla.com/question/1468/feature-request-ipsec-native-integration/ | 15:29 |
| coderus | Open bugtracker forMitakuuluu: https://github.com/CODeRUS/mitakuuluu | 15:29 |
| coderus | Nicd-: suy: ;) | 15:30 |
| tortoisedoc_ | speaking of vpn, any pptp / IPSec client available yet? | 15:30 |
| suy | coderus: :) | 15:31 |
| Nicd- | nice coderus :) | 15:31 |
| krandom | regarding mitakuuluu, any idea if it is possible to not share my entire address book with whatsapp? | 15:32 |
| Nicd- | I'll write up one issue right away | 15:32 |
| Pnuu | tortoisedoc_: check those two links | 15:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Pnuu: thanks | 15:33 |
| Nicd- | krandom: when syncing contacts, just sync the ones you want? | 15:34 |
| krandom | if it is possible, it's perfect. | 15:34 |
| Nicd- | you can just click on the ones you want to select | 15:35 |
| krandom | thanks, I'll give it a try shortly. | 15:35 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | aaah | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap crap crap | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | dDebug Source Location: | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | dSymbol file: | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | dDumper libraries: | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | dDebugger settings: | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | makes sense it does not work if it's missing all the info doesnt it | 15:38 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but why, hmm | 15:39 |
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| Morpog | coderus, registration worked fine after I tried this morning again | 15:41 |
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| Hartzi | coderus: there were this "Load old conversation" pulley menu in version .3 but that doesn't exist anymore which is good. | 15:45 |
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| coderus | Hartzi: yup.this was an experiment. will move to common pulldown menu :) | 15:52 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: added a few issues for you | 15:55 |
| Morpog | Nicd-, the Quit in menu also disconnects I guess | 15:58 |
| Morpog | while close by swipe down doesn't disconnect | 15:59 |
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| Morpog | damn, coderus just answered there :D | 15:59 |
| Hartzi | coderus: ok, that's good :) | 16:00 |
| Nicd- | does swiping down leave it connected? | 16:00 |
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| Morpog | coderus, additionally to media sending I would prefer a Image sending where you can choose the picture to send with thumbnail view. | 16:00 |
| Nicd- | so I'll get notifications | 16:00 |
| Hartzi | Nicd-: it seems so | 16:00 |
| Morpog | Nicd-, yes, read coderus comment on github | 16:00 |
| Nicd- | Morpog: I did but didn't catch it from the comment | 16:00 |
| Morpog | well, disconnect = close daemon | 16:01 |
| Morpog | I guess | 16:01 |
| Morpog | yay, wifi hotspot app: https://github.com/sremes/harbour-hotspot/tree/master/RPMS | 16:06 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: sure, dbus daemontalking with whatsapp servers. application is just GUI. | 16:12 |
| coderus | Morpog: i'll add thumbnails to filebrowser later | 16:12 |
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| Morpog | filebrowser is pretty cool | 16:12 |
| coderus | Morpog: Disconnect = disconnect :D | 16:12 |
| coderus | Morpog: uit = Close daemon + Close GUI | 16:12 |
| Morpog | does daemon reconnect auto if connection lost? | 16:13 |
| coderus | Morpog: sure | 16:15 |
| Morpog | ok, as it was disconnected here when I opened GUI again once. Will have a look on iz, maybe there is a bug. | 16:16 |
| Nicd- | it seems mitakuuluu doesn't get notifications out every time | 16:18 |
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| coderus | Morpog: bug in yur fingers pulling Disconnect? :) | 16:20 |
| Morpog | hehe, maybe :D | 16:20 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: what wrong with notifications? :) | 16:21 |
| Nicd- | coderus: not getting notifications | 16:22 |
| Nicd- | or sounds | 16:22 |
| coderus | Nicd-: with closed chat? | 16:23 |
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| Nicd- | yep | 16:23 |
| Morpog | Nicd-, when device is in deep sleep it could take a while | 16:23 |
| Nicd- | Morpog: but the messages arrived | 16:23 |
| Morpog | oh ok | 16:24 |
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| Nicd- | my friend sent me a few messages, the first ones didn't notify, the last one did | 16:24 |
| Nicd- | now my wife sent some and didn't get a notification for any of them | 16:24 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: simultaneously? are you using Jolla or ported? | 16:26 |
| Nicd- | coderus: what do you mean with simultaneously? the two conversations had plenty of time in between | 16:31 |
| Nicd- | and I'm running it on jolla | 16:31 |
| Nicd- | the cover also said "no unread messages" | 16:32 |
| coderus | Nicd-: create issue, need to dig in logs | 16:32 |
| Nicd- | can't provide logs right now but I'll test with my wife's phone | 16:33 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: other peoples reporting same bug btw. | 16:42 |
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| slate | I got the same issue with mitakuuluu, notifications arent always coming through. | 16:54 |
| slate | I'll send the log next time it happens | 16:54 |
| coderus | slate: everything already logged. you can send it :) | 16:55 |
| slate | will do | 16:57 |
| slate | but cant say when it occured last time | 16:58 |
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| coderus | slate: logs saving from last engine shutdown. and also have logs backup in logs subfolder, so don't worry ;) | 17:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | HMM | 17:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Python scripting is not supported in this copy of GDB. | 17:01 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :| | 17:02 |
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| jani | any good tutorials for qtquick/silica layouting (besides the actual qt docs) ? =) | 17:07 |
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| coderus | jani: first of all read reference about Theme | 17:12 |
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| slate | Sfiet_Konstantin: http://paasio.com/friends_sailfishos_mockup3.png new logo-mockup. Not sure if the f-font is correct but could look ok this way | 17:16 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | looks ok indeed | 17:17 |
| jani | and that was an excellent answer. | 17:17 |
| slate | looks like a finnish flag, ha | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can you extend the gradient to the whole shape ? | 17:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | slate: :D | 17:17 |
| slate | I can, but then its not sailfish-stylz | 17:17 |
| slate | ;) | 17:17 |
| slate | http://paasio.com/friends_sailfishos_mockup4.png | 17:20 |
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| flux | sadly any logo that is based on 'f' will remind people of facebook ;) | 17:26 |
| slate | true story | 17:26 |
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| slate | just draw two stickmen holding hands. | 17:27 |
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| jani | specially if its blue & white . | 17:30 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | hey Morpog and slate, if you want to propose an icon, feel free to do a PR | 17:38 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | just like what Morpog did | 17:38 |
| Morpog | :D | 17:39 |
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| slate | I'll create something completely different if wanted. I just made some mockups based on your talks. :) | 17:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ) | 17:44 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 17:44 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | thanks for the proposal though | 17:44 |
| slate | Is there a search function on Jolla's default mail-app ? | 17:45 |
| slate | Cant seem to find one.. | 17:45 |
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| slate | like http://paasio.com/friends_sailfishos_mockup5.png :D | 17:51 |
| slate | dont take this one too serious.. | 17:52 |
| Morpog | looks funny though :) | 17:52 |
| tortoisedoc_ | somehow hypnotizing | 17:53 |
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| M4rtinK | slate: looks kinda like a walrus smiley ! :) | 18:01 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu v0.1-5 released. Some bugfixies | 18:02 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | coderus : jee | 18:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap cross-gdb | 18:04 |
| Morpog | coderus, just thought that a remorse timer for disconnect would be great | 18:05 |
| Morpog | it's really easy to hit | 18:05 |
| Morpog | chat view looks alot better now! | 18:07 |
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| coderus | Morpog: sounds resonable, i;ll add it to next release :) | 18:12 |
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| slate | How much work is to get the zillion whatsapp-icons ported? | 18:19 |
| Morpog | slate, he got them already in persecute and wazapp :D | 18:19 |
| slate | Great to hear :) | 18:20 |
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| coderus | slate: you mean emoji? | 18:51 |
| situ | How do you allow launching multiple instances of an application ? | 18:52 |
| coderus | situ: i'm not. what do you mean? | 18:53 |
| situ | This was a question, not related to your previous discussion. | 18:54 |
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| coderus | :D | 18:55 |
| coderus | so, if you dont use --single-instance i think you can get multiple instances | 18:56 |
| coderus | but why? | 18:56 |
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| situ | Just wanted to test something. | 19:00 |
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| situ | BTW this question is anwered in https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 19:00 |
| situ | Just need to add X-Nemo-Single-Instance=no to my .desktop file | 19:00 |
| coderus | situ: yes, i mean exactly that line :) | 19:02 |
| situ | coderus: I know you meant that line exactly ;) | 19:03 |
| coderus | situ: multiple quick windows is better than multiple instances | 19:04 |
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| krandom | coderus, maybe it was mentioned already... but in Mitakuuluu, when you sync t | 19:10 |
| krandom | ... the contacts, if you select one, you cannot scroll anymore the list. | 19:11 |
| krandom | I want to select two contacts that aren't on the same page :\ | 19:11 |
| krandom | in fact, it's completely frozen. even if I go back to the main screen and try it again, it's just frozen in the same place in the list. | 19:12 |
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| krandom | only restarting the app makes it work again. | 19:12 |
| coderus | krandom: it was fixed in 0.1-4. you must upgrade. | 19:16 |
| krandom | this is what I have: harbour-mitakuuluu-0.1-4.armv7hl | 19:17 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | lbt:ping | 19:18 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | timeout :/ | 19:19 |
| slate | coderus: emojis, yes | 19:21 |
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| krandom | coderus, updating to latest (0.1-5) right now. | 19:24 |
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| coderus | slate: yes i have them. but emojified update will get additional 1.5MB ;) | 19:28 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps:ping | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: pong | 19:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ha! | 19:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: can I bug you with some obscure gdb questions? | 19:35 |
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| krandom | coderus, in 0.1-5 the list works correctly \o/ | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: you can try | 19:36 |
| krandom | coderus, just wondering, do you plan to publish the sources in the future? | 19:36 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps:does the mersdk emulator rely on qemu for pc-side of things during debugging? | 19:42 |
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| itbaron | Hi, Can somebody test my Elisa viihde -application http://www.elisanet.fi/hupiplayer/harbour-hupisail-0.5.2-1.armv7hl.rpm ? | 19:44 |
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| Stskeeps | tortoisedoc_: don't think so | 19:54 |
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| coderus | krandom: sure, after finishing main work i'll share sources. | 19:58 |
| slate | coderus: separate emoji-pack ;) | 19:59 |
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| coderus | slate: its not suitable for sailfish since i'm planning to go to harbour | 20:03 |
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| slate | so be it. :) | 20:04 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: if I would have to, say, get the configure line used to generate the gdb for the i486 target of sailfish, where should I look? | 20:44 |
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| Stskeeps | gitweb.merproject.org | 20:44 |
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| leszek | hi | 20:46 |
| leszek | is there a way to setup a threshold for page flipping (so when scrolling by swiping up it does not accidently recognizes this as a page back swipe) ? | 20:47 |
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| edgars | yo | 20:49 |
| leszek | edgars: was that an answer ? If yes can you tell me how :) | 20:50 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Stskeeps: thanks; I imagine these being buid by OBS; any chance to get a look at a build log from somewhere? | 20:52 |
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| jani | mm, is there anything in silica resembling InfoBanner that was in qt-components ? | 21:01 |
| jani | i found something in khertan's repo that i could use thought. | 21:03 |
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| b0bben | evening all | 21:10 |
| b0bben | quick q: is not possible to debug apps on device? | 21:10 |
| merlin1991 | it is | 21:11 |
| b0bben | getting "Debugging failed" all the time | 21:11 |
| b0bben | merlin1991: rly? what am I missing? | 21:11 |
| merlin1991 | I didn't try it yet, but it has to work | 21:11 |
| b0bben | i've installed qt declarative debuginfo packages into target | 21:11 |
| Pnuu | b0bben: start "devel-su journaltcl -fa" on a ssh to the phone and then start the app | 21:12 |
| b0bben | merlin1991: it should work | 21:12 |
| Pnuu | that atleast has helped me | 21:12 |
| b0bben | i'm gonna go on a rant about how hard this is, but later | 21:12 |
| b0bben | first, i wanna debug my app :) | 21:12 |
| Pnuu | -fa = follow (show the latest and update) and show all messages | 21:12 |
| b0bben | Pnuu: lemme try that | 21:12 |
| Yaniel | it should work directly with qt creator yes | 21:13 |
| Yaniel | ultimately | 21:14 |
| b0bben | Pnuu: didn't do anything for me | 21:15 |
| b0bben | am i suppose to see some output or something? | 21:16 |
| Yaniel | if your app prints stuff it should show that | 21:16 |
| merlin1991 | when you start the debug you'll probably will se stuff | 21:17 |
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| b0bben | I see that in my regular Application Output window in QTCreator | 21:18 |
| b0bben | always have | 21:18 |
| Yaniel | not qtc, the ssh window | 21:18 |
| b0bben | but i need breakpoints and stepping and all that proper | 21:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | b0bben : where you debuggin from? | 21:19 |
| tortoisedoc_ | win / mac / linux? | 21:19 |
| b0bben | mac | 21:19 |
| Yaniel | being able to properly use a debugger is always nice | 21:20 |
| b0bben | it's a requirement if you ask me | 21:20 |
| b0bben | how do they develop stuff internally? | 21:20 |
| tortoisedoc_ | b0bben : good question :D | 21:21 |
| b0bben | this should just work...it's impossible to create apps, or at least it takes 4x the time | 21:21 |
| Yaniel | emulator | 21:21 |
| b0bben | gonna try there | 21:21 |
| Yaniel | gdb on device | 21:21 |
| Yaniel | ie ssh to device, start app in gdb there | 21:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Yaniel: gdb on device is hardcore | 21:22 |
| Yaniel | still, remote debugging would be awesome | 21:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Yaniel: I have it almost working | 21:22 |
| tortoisedoc_ | it steps / breaks / etc | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | only problem is it defaults to disassembler + following is not working :| | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (this on win7) | 21:23 |
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| jani | Yaniel: trying debugger atm in osx to emulator .. doesnt look promising, hangs on "Launching" | 21:27 |
| Yaniel | I guess you could torture aard or lbt with that once they show up | 21:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Aard:ping | 21:28 |
| artemma | has anybody tried changing ambiance to a random image programmatically on a real device? | 21:36 |
| jani | definetly just hangs there. =( | 21:36 |
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| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: ping | 21:52 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: pong | 22:01 |
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| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: I am playing with gconf keys and ambiance | 22:01 |
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| artemma | wanted to ask if you were ever able to create ambiance on a real device | 22:01 |
| artemma | I mean from a random image | 22:01 |
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| Pnuu | artemma: I did with one of the stock images (stormy sea and a sailboat) | 22:02 |
| artemma | Pnuu: how do you do it? | 22:02 |
| Pnuu | don't remember, but I guess I just did "use this image" or something | 22:03 |
| Pnuu | and then save | 22:03 |
| artemma | Pnuu: I want to chance programmatically :) | 22:04 |
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| * artemma is playing with gconftool-2 now | 22:04 | |
| Pnuu | artemma: ah, right | 22:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: ssh on the jolla | 22:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and look at ... vi /usr/share/jolla-gallery/pages/GalleryFullscreenPage.qml | 22:04 |
| artemma | I just managed to change image via -set /desktop/meego/background/portrait/home_picture_filename | 22:05 |
| artemma | ! | 22:05 |
| artemma | But not sure if ambiance changed too | 22:05 |
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| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: thanks, studying | 22:05 |
| artemma | import Sailfish.Ambience 1.0 Hmm.. sounds like something not passable to harbour | 22:06 |
| artemma | and all the magic is there probably | 22:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: indeed, but editing gconf keys is not something nice either | 22:06 |
| artemma | depends on how you define nice | 22:07 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: everything not using ambience api is hackish imo | 22:08 |
| artemma | I can of course assure that my intentions are good and I should be given access to everything and these keys are very unlikely to be used for anything else in the future | 22:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: hum what do you want to do ? | 22:08 |
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| artemma | depends on the consequences IMHO. If my actions can break something in the future -> bad. If future can break my apps -> that's OK | 22:09 |
| artemma | well, to change ambiance :) | 22:09 |
| artemma | my most popular own app ever was setting wallpapers for N9 on schedule, I want to port it to Sailfish | 22:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: ah | 22:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I see | 22:10 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | and yeah, it won't pass store right now ... :( | 22:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let me try something else: | 22:11 |
| * artemma is looking for some clearly colored image in his device to see if gconf change changes ambiance too | 22:11 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: pkcon install qt5-qttools-qdbus | 22:12 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: why? | 22:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and as nemo: qdbus -qt5 com.jolla.ambienced /com/jolla/ambienced | 22:12 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | qdbus is a nice tool that's all :) | 22:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | QDBus is allowed, right ? | 22:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is a dbus method called com.jolla.ambienced.createAmbience | 22:13 |
| artemma | oh, when it comes to actually changing gconf values, I am sure something will be found whether it's allowed or not (I can bundle in) | 22:13 |
| artemma | ah | 22:13 |
| artemma | oh | 22:13 |
| artemma | wow | 22:13 |
| artemma | ! | 22:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you even have setAmbience | 22:13 |
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| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: you are magician! | 22:13 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: on Sailfish, I found that everything is either qml import, or dbus | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and this helps :) | 22:14 |
| artemma | this library is not allowed, but I might be able to bundle it in depending on what it links to. Or I can maybe reengineer dbus calls and do that manually somehow | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | qdbus is not allowed ? | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | let me se | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | e | 22:14 |
| M4rtinK | well, that's how it should be IMHO | 22:14 |
| artemma | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | "libQt5DBus.so.5" | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: indeed | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | c/c++ only APIs limit usage from other languages | 22:15 |
| artemma | ah, indeed | 22:15 |
| M4rtinK | for starters | 22:15 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's why I immediately thought about DBus if the import module is not allowed | 22:15 |
| artemma | sorry guys, was looking at qml imports | 22:15 |
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| * artemma is googling for sources for com.jolla.ambienced.createAmbience | 22:16 | |
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| suy | maybe you can try with d-bus introspection | 22:16 |
| artemma | oh maybe it's closed source actually.. | 22:17 |
| suy | probably | 22:17 |
| artemma | suy, that was the plan, but if there is library that explicitly has createAmbience method, low level manipulation shouldn't be needed anymore :) | 22:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: no, there is no source | 22:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but try to call this dbus method with some meaningful string | 22:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (like an url to a local file) | 22:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and see if it works | 22:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it should | 22:18 |
| artemma | I will. | 22:19 |
| artemma | I don't understand packages very well. Do you know which library has these methods? | 22:19 |
| suy | Well, in the long term you will want to do the d-bus calls yourself. Same as if you want to do some stuff, and you are tempted to call system('foo') because foo is pretty convenient and you know it already :) | 22:19 |
| artemma | oh, that;s probably wrong question | 22:19 |
| suy | artemma: have you used dbus previously? | 22:20 |
| artemma | I am thinking if I can be allowed to link to whatever implements this createAmbiance | 22:20 |
| artemma | suy: very minimally. Just setting/reading keys | 22:20 |
| artemma | no signalling over dbus | 22:20 |
| artemma | I think I monitored dbus a couple of times trying to trace what happens there | 22:21 |
| artemma | well, when I was hacking changing wallpapers on harmattan :) | 22:21 |
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| jani | Can i upload a package to harbour to just test if the package passes QA and then prevent it going into store - there seems to be publish date option but then again, i might not want the first package to go public at all .. | 22:25 |
| jani | (even if it passes qa) | 22:25 |
| suy | artemma: OMG, you can even run qdbusviewer if you need to peek at what's available from ambienced :) | 22:26 |
| suy | which is pretty crazy, since is a qwidgets app | 22:26 |
| suy | and looks terrible, of course | 22:27 |
| artemma | suy: yes that was the plan (if it starts, certainly). I guess I will not be able to use createAmbiance in the appstore app, but I may be able to trace what it's doing | 22:27 |
| Pnuu | jani: https://together.jolla.com/question/1593/integrate-qa-testing-scripts-with-sailfish-sdk/ | 22:28 |
| suy | artemma: I see the setAmbience method, BTW. Is in the session bus. I doubt there will be a problem with the app getting accepted. Is an IPC call like any other, I think | 22:29 |
| artemma | suy: where/how? | 22:29 |
| jani | Pnuu: already voted there, and we talked about this yesterday about the same time, Elleo submitted it.. | 22:29 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: how do you know this createAmbiance method exists? Some tool for examining a library interface on *nix? | 22:29 |
| suy | /com/jolla/ambienced as object path; setAmbience as method | 22:30 |
| jani | asked this because i really do want to try out the if i have something to fix now before moving on to other fixes .. | 22:30 |
| Pnuu | jani: oh, nevermind then :-D | 22:30 |
| artemma | suy: you mean you noticed it in DBus monitor? | 22:30 |
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| * artemma realy knows very little about DBus except for the whole concept | 22:30 | |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: it is a dbus method | 22:31 |
| suy | artemma: if you run qdbusviewer you will see it. D-Bus provides a mechanism for introspection, that is, the app that speaks d-bus will tell the world what interfaces and methods supports | 22:31 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: I made you install qdbus to introspect dbus | 22:31 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | create ambiance is (IMO) a method from ambianced, a daemon running on sailfish | 22:31 |
| suy | artemma: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/D-Bus/Introduction that is a cool introduction. The one with Qt is OK too. Is very easy to use, really, from the C++ code | 22:32 |
| artemma | I just installed this package to emulator (didn't want to modify device rigth away) | 22:33 |
| artemma | though.. I guess I need it on a real device anyway | 22:34 |
| artemma | okay, not it's on device | 22:34 |
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| artemma | suy: thx, reading | 22:35 |
| artemma | okay, now* it's on device | 22:35 |
| jani | another interesting (atleast to me) question: has anyone tried if testability-driver works for qml ui ? | 22:35 |
| artemma | jani: what is testability-driver? | 22:36 |
| artemma | hmm, where did it install qdbus and qdbusviewer to.. | 22:37 |
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| jani | artemma: ui testing tool. | 22:37 |
| artemma | aha, found /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus | 22:37 |
| suy | $ rpm -ql qt5-qttools-qdbus -> /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbusviewer (I had to google that... so used to dpkg -L) | 22:38 |
| artemma | jani: okay, thx. I am into lower level testing. My UI level tests are still just using QtQuickTest | 22:38 |
| artemma | ah, so it's ambiEnce, not ambiAnce? :/ Discovery of a day for me | 22:39 |
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| suy | hehe, me too. I guess its the finnish accent | 22:40 |
| jani | it was developed in nokia for qt testing during harmattan .. ruby scripting, mainly for functional testing. | 22:40 |
| artemma | jani: intresting idea, I'd have a look at it if somebody made it work | 22:45 |
| Stskeeps | i think some people tried for qtquick2 at least | 22:45 |
| artemma | for the time being QtQuickTest is not ideal, but good enough for testing that e.g. proper screen is pushed from pulley menu action | 22:45 |
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| jani | Stskeeps: noticed it was on the repos .. | 22:47 |
| Stskeeps | testability has another name doesn't it? | 22:47 |
| Stskeeps | i forgot it | 22:47 |
| jani | tdriver | 22:47 |
| Stskeeps | https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440 | 22:48 |
| Merbot | Mer bug 440 in .Other "Testability Driver: agent_qt QT5 branch needs corrections for QtQuick 2.0 naming" [Task,New] | 22:48 |
| DevBot | Bug 440: task, Normal, ---, not-taken, NEW, Testability Driver: agent_qt QT5 branch needs corrections for QtQuick 2.0 naming | 22:48 |
| DevBot | Bug https://bugs.merproject.org/show_bug.cgi?id=440 task, Normal, ---, not-taken, NEW, Testability Driver: agent_qt QT5 branch needs corrections for QtQuick 2.0 naming | 22:48 |
| Stskeeps | helpful? | 22:48 |
| jani | yeah, atleast gives me hope ;) | 22:50 |
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| jani | ok, found the fork code on gitorious that this Henrik mentions .. will check that | 22:55 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: you re my hero! Everything just works and works very well! | 22:55 |
| * artemma off for creating proof of concept app | 22:56 | |
| artemma | btw, you guys have installed Flashlight app, heaven't you? ;) http://bit.ly/flashlight17 | 22:56 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: does it turn on the flash ? | 22:57 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: yes it does | 22:57 |
| artemma | sort of | 22:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: how come ? | 22:58 |
| artemma | you'll have enough light for finding keys | 22:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: fun | 22:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will probably try | 22:58 |
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| artemma | I force camera to search for focus all the time. And for that camera turns light on | 22:58 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: geez | 22:58 |
| artemma | that was hard and needed a lot of help from many people here: Aard, MSameer and others | 22:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool | 22:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but hackish | 22:59 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 22:59 |
| artemma | eventually I found magic parameters that make it work almost as a proper flashlight and exactly as a proper flashlight in dark conditions. Further tuning is possible, but.. I think I just wait for proper API then. Current solution is clearly good enough | 23:00 |
| * artemma is into fame, so for me it is actually cool when I can do something on the border of what's allowed. Like this ambience changing | 23:00 | |
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| artemma | that helps you discover a lot | 23:01 |
| artemma | e.g. flashlight helped to uncover pretty serious Jolla bug: device crashes down when two apps try controling camera simultaneously | 23:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: rather unstable indeed | 23:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but it looks promising | 23:02 |
| artemma | Sfiet_Konstantin: unstable? | 23:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | artemma: unstable light source | 23:02 |
| artemma | I played with it a lot and found it 100% stable in dark conditions and quite okay even in daylight (though strobing a little) | 23:02 |
| artemma | hmm, I wonder if all devices cameras are identical.. | 23:02 |
| artemma | hardware-wise | 23:02 |
| artemma | I am pretty sure further tuning is possible. E.g. dynamically adapting to the light conditions and poking camera with the different timings. Just wanted to stop at good enough level :/ | 23:04 |
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| suy | Do you know if there is some #define active that signals when building for Sailfish? Something like Q_OS_ANDROID or similar. | 23:05 |
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| artemma | suy: sailfishapp.h checks for LIBSAILFISHAPP_LIBRARY | 23:08 |
| artemma | but that works only if you actually use this lib certainly | 23:08 |
| suy | artemma: ok, thanks. That will have to do it for now. | 23:09 |
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| artemma | suy: why do you care? | 23:09 |
| artemma | suy: you want to use same source code for both sailfish and other platforms? Then you can set define in sailfish-specific .yaml | 23:10 |
| jani | https://harbour.jolla.com/faq mentions a list of allowed QML modules, QtPositioning is not mentioned. Should it ? | 23:10 |
| suy | artemma: the main.cpp for one app that wants to be a bit more than one platform only will need some tweaks. I would like to attempt building for sailfish+others | 23:11 |
| w00t | jani: no, as we are not yet using qt 5.2, where positioning was first released - it will be in the future | 23:11 |
| suy | For sailfish seems easy to do a main.cpp. For android is like crazy, because you need all that java wrapper :/ | 23:11 |
| artemma | there might be a proper define somewhere. Actually I think there should be one | 23:11 |
| artemma | but anyway, you can set it from .yaml if you can have a sailfish-specifc .yaml | 23:12 |
| w00t | suy: take a look at puzzle master | 23:12 |
| artemma | e.g. check VERSION at https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/blob/master/rpm/harbour-wikipedia.yaml | 23:12 |
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| w00t | https://github.com/Venemo/puzzle-master/blob/master/puzzle-master.pro#L162 | 23:12 |
| artemma | oh, packagesExist(sailfishapp) looksquite ok | 23:13 |
| suy | w00t: that's a huge .pro file :-) thank you | 23:13 |
| suy | Covers all my wanted use cases and more :) | 23:13 |
| jani | w00t: damn | 23:14 |
| jani | been hacking meegopas whole day and good part of yesterday to get it in shape for store =( | 23:15 |
| artemma | meegopas?!! WooHoo! I would use that! | 23:16 |
| artemma | jani: ask more questions, please :) | 23:16 |
| jani | artemma: it works already ;) | 23:16 |
| w00t | jani: if you get it ready and polished, i'll work on getting positioning ready for use :) | 23:16 |
| jani | w00t: qt5-qtdeclarative-import-positioning-5.1.0+git19-1.11.1.i486 points to qt5.1 ? | 23:17 |
| w00t | i don't anticipate it'll take too long into the new year | 23:17 |
| w00t | jani: right, we have 5.1 + a lot of patching | 23:17 |
| w00t | bbl | 23:17 |
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| stephg | night w00t | 23:18 |
| w00t | not night, just playing games ;) | 23:18 |
| stephg | ha, clearly I've drunk too much :) | 23:20 |
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| jani | any good way to do text replacing on qml files during build (to add git hash and proper version number from central location) ? | 23:25 |
| mfulz | did someone tried to export enums to qml? like here https://taschenorakel.de/michael/2011/07/14/using-c-enums-qml/ | 23:25 |
| mfulz | for me they are not accessible in qml | 23:25 |
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| suy | mfulz: they should. Are you doing anything differently? | 23:28 |
| mfulz | no I just did copy & paste for the code in the example | 23:29 |
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| mfulz | but added class SomeEnumsWrapper | 23:29 |
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| suy | mfulz: that example doesn't mention the import. Did you do it? | 23:36 |
| suy | I could be wrong, but I think you need it | 23:37 |
| mfulz | ah found it | 23:37 |
| mfulz | yep | 23:37 |
| mfulz | the import was missing | 23:37 |
| mfulz | didn't know about that - thank you | 23:37 |
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| w00t | jani: take a look at the yaml for mlite | 23:44 |
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| jani | w00t: thanks, heh, found the link on sailfishdev ;) | 23:48 |
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| jani | w00t: i'll tell a secret, parts of that mlite look really familar :D | 23:52 |
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| lbt | hey w00t ... still here? | 23:56 |
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| lbt | do we have : QOpenGLShader::TessellationControl in GLES 2.0? | 23:57 |
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