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| mfulz | M4rtinK: If you're interested, normal validator stops input wrong text as well in this case validator: IntValidator { bottom:1; top: 65535} | 00:03 |
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| M4rtinK | mfulz: nice, good to know :) | 00:31 |
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| mfulz | can someone help me with a SiliciaFlickable? I've content that excceeds the screen height but it doesn't let me scroll | 01:55 |
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| Elleo | mfulz: could you pastebin the qml? | 01:58 |
| mfulz | sure | 01:58 |
| mfulz | Elleo: http://pastebin.com/s87MxZTw | 01:59 |
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| Elleo | hmm, can't see anything obvious :/ | 02:05 |
| mfulz | :( | 02:05 |
| mfulz | ah found it :) | 02:08 |
| mfulz | had to give my column an id and set the flickable height to it - just in case you want to know the issue :) | 02:09 |
| Elleo | ah, okay | 02:09 |
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| Elleo | will keep that in mind for future reference :) | 02:09 |
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| andfool | Which language i should learn in order to build apps? | 02:10 |
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| Elleo | andfool: QML + JS is probably simplest and easiest | 02:12 |
| Elleo | and QML + Python will be a nice option in the future | 02:13 |
| Elleo | otherwise QML + C++, but you might find that more difficult | 02:13 |
| andfool | Elleo:thanks | 02:14 |
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| situ | How do you install packages on latest sailfish vm ? | 10:38 |
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| coderus | using SDK Control Center ofc. | 10:39 |
| situ | Can't I install direclty on vm through zypper ? | 10:39 |
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| coderus | situ: sure you can, but then you must sync packages in SDK COntrol Center | 10:43 |
| coderus | situ: nbetter to use SDK CC | 10:43 |
| situ | Why isn't zypper available in latest release of sailfish vm ? | 10:44 |
| coderus | because of pkcon | 10:44 |
| coderus | pkcon install zypper | 10:44 |
| coderus | or just use pkcon instead | 10:45 |
| coderus | pkcon dont require root privileges, it privileged by itself | 10:46 |
| Yaniel | better use pkcon to avoid conflicts | 10:48 |
| coderus | Yaniel: what conflicts? | 10:49 |
| coderus | zypper is not rpm, it resolving all conflicts and dependencies too :) | 10:49 |
| coderus | just pkcon is easier for newibles trying to develop :D | 10:50 |
| Yaniel | yeah but pkcon handles simultaneous requests | 10:50 |
| Yaniel | and is the same api that the store uses | 10:50 |
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| coderus | emmm | 10:55 |
| coderus | there are different apis for installing packages from repos and resolving conflicts? | 10:56 |
| coderus | you kidding me? | 10:56 |
| Yaniel | same library or whatever | 10:57 |
| Yaniel | afaik it is "use pkcon to stay out of troublee" | 10:58 |
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| coderus | anyway. pkcon in vm is just for unify device-emulator | 10:59 |
| coderus | i see no other reons | 10:59 |
| coderus | reasons* | 10:59 |
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| situ | Why did the chose pkcon ? | 11:14 |
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| situ | they * | 11:15 |
| coderus | pkcon is easier for end user | 11:15 |
| coderus | and (*i think*) something related to license | 11:15 |
| coderus | like using curl instead of wget :D | 11:16 |
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| zuh | It's about using PackageKit from both cli and UI I believe | 11:21 |
| flux | pkcon is pretty nice. the fact that jolla isn't an apt/dpkg-based system doesn't bother me at all, most of the annoying stuff has been smoothed off :) | 11:23 |
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| jake9xx | coderus: true and if someonsists they can do pkcon install zypper | 11:41 |
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| situ | Debuggin is such a PITA on this SDK, "journalctl" command doesn't always show me the logs of console.log. | 12:28 |
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| lbt | situ: new SDK fixes that | 12:29 |
| situ | When was it released ? | 12:30 |
| lbt | mmm ... this week iirc | 12:31 |
| lbt | or last | 12:31 |
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| Andy80 | I still can't make Mer SDK work on OSX :/ | 13:27 |
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| coderus | Andy80: sadly :( | 13:31 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: I've uninstalled everything (including deletion of .config stuff etc....) and reinstalled from scratch but I still get the same timeout connection problem when I try to compile something | 13:32 |
| jani | works here. | 13:32 |
| coderus | I'm uploading preview version of Mitakuulu right now. I'm hoping to get many suggestions and bugreports in next hours to make hotfixies before tomorrow's public release | 13:32 |
| jani | does sdk come with its own virtualbox or does it use one installed ? | 13:33 |
| jani | as atleast for me, virtualbox has been really buggy on osx. | 13:33 |
| Andy80 | jani: I installed vbox getting it from the official website | 13:34 |
| Andy80 | jani: define "here" please :) are you using OSX or Linux? | 13:34 |
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| jani | osx. | 13:36 |
| jani | 10.8.4 to be exact | 13:36 |
| Andy80 | oh.... maybe the problem is with Mavericks? | 13:37 |
| Andy80 | I've 10.9.1 | 13:37 |
| jani | what version of virtualbox you have ? | 13:37 |
| jani | as i said, i've had a lot of issues with vbox just not working and crashing on vm start ups .. mines 4.2.16 | 13:38 |
| Andy80 | jani: I've 4.3.6 (latest available) | 13:39 |
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| jani | yeah, i have older version exactly for that reason: never releases had some regression. there's even some bug reports | 13:40 |
| Andy80 | jani: I will try with 4.2.x then | 13:41 |
| Andy80 | anyway I still can't understand if it's having a problem connecting to the Mer SDK or to the device... | 13:41 |
| Andy80 | because it behaves in a strange way... | 13:41 |
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| Andy80 | if I just "build" the source I don't get an error... and to build it, it should connect to Mer SDK, right? | 13:42 |
| Andy80 | but if later I ask it to deploy, I get a Mer SDK connection timeout | 13:42 |
| Andy80 | I reproduce the error again so we can give it a look together? | 13:42 |
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| jani | i can take a look but im not that good with sdk and virtualbox yet ;) | 13:43 |
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| jani | just installed it yesterday. I would prefer plain-old scratchbox or similar just because of old habbits ;) | 13:44 |
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| jani | Oh my, i got 211 karma in together site ;--) | 13:45 |
| jani | but yeah, if you can build and you actually do see the build log, mer build should be up .. you could actually also verify it by firt starting virtual box and checking the state there .. | 13:46 |
| jani | and then, trying to ssh into it ? | 13:46 |
| Andy80 | jani: I think there is another problem... | 13:46 |
| coderus | Andy80: do ou have firewall? | 13:46 |
| Andy80 | first of all I didn't add the Jolla device to the QtCreator preferences | 13:46 |
| jani | just to rule out connectivity.. | 13:47 |
| Andy80 | second.... I'm doing right now, but it gets a timeout anyway | 13:47 |
| Andy80 | I can ssh into it from terminal | 13:47 |
| Andy80 | but from QtCreator I always get a timeout connection error | 13:47 |
| jani | ok. something different then for sure. | 13:47 |
| Andy80 | I'm trying to increase the timeout seconds but it's not helping | 13:47 |
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| jani | btw, does anyone know, are account plugins same as on Harmattan ? | 13:49 |
| Andy80 | ok, now it worked | 13:50 |
| Andy80 | I was ble to deploy SSH keys to the device | 13:50 |
| Andy80 | it looks like that if the device has the screen off it cannot accept connections | 13:50 |
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| jani | ack indeed. | 13:51 |
| jani | i noticed the same, if the screen goes black on devel mode, existing ssh connection dies .. | 13:51 |
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| Andy80 | ffffffff | 13:53 |
| Andy80 | same error :( | 13:53 |
| Andy80 | basically.... when you execute the deploy I get the error before deploying to the device | 13:53 |
| Andy80 | if you want to give it a look http://pastebin.com/P5bn6R8w | 13:54 |
| Andy80 | it's not even trying to connect to the device... it's getting the error when it connects to the Mer SDK to build the RPM | 13:54 |
| Andy80 | but.... | 13:54 |
| Andy80 | if I just execute "Build All", then it can connect to Mer SDK without errors | 13:55 |
| Andy80 | I don't understand this... | 13:55 |
| Andy80 | this is the output for "Build All" http://pastebin.com/8UvUukpP | 13:56 |
| Andy80 | as you can see, no errors | 13:56 |
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| jani | Andy80: https://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Known_Issues ;) | 13:59 |
| jani | fourth entry from the bottom .. | 13:59 |
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| Andy80 | jani: I will try it thanks :) I'll be right back soon.. | 14:01 |
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| Elessar | hi all, is there any way to operate with mouse buttons by SDK? | 14:19 |
| * Andy80 back :) | 14:21 | |
| Andy80 | let's try those workaround... | 14:21 |
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| coderus | Elessar: means? | 14:24 |
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| Elessar | coderus: I'm trying to implement book reader, and it's convience to flip the page by volume buttons | 14:26 |
| coderus | Elessar: you can make a tool for press emulation of any keycode | 14:27 |
| Elessar | no-no, how can I understand from the application user pressed the volume button? | 14:27 |
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| Elessar | oh, looks' my fault, there are signals Keys.onVolume*Pressed in QtQuick API | 14:29 |
| Elessar | sorry | 14:29 |
| coderus | :) | 14:29 |
| Andy80 | jani: ok, the rebuild all doesn't give me any error (I've applied those workarounds you told me, but please note that I wasn't getting any error during build phase even before that.... let's try the deploy now) | 14:30 |
| Elessar | but I have one more question :) is there any way to control the brightness of the screen? | 14:30 |
| Andy80 | better now! | 14:33 |
| Andy80 | deploy by rpm still doesn't work, but deploy copying binary works :) | 14:33 |
| Andy80 | for now is more than enough for me | 14:33 |
| Andy80 | at least I can test on the device | 14:33 |
| Andy80 | cool! | 14:33 |
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| coderus | Andy80: oh, just deploying to device was trouble? or you just wanted to have option to deploy via QtCreator? just in case you want to deploy rpm you can use xterminal and scp package to device :D | 14:41 |
| Andy80 | coderus: I was just using the "default" deploy option that is "build rpm, deploy rpm, install rpm and run the app" | 14:42 |
| Andy80 | coderus: but it looks like it's not working at the moment. Anyway, I just need to deploy and test the binary for now. It's faster and easier. | 14:43 |
| Andy80 | coderus: changing subject... you're the one that is porting the whatsapp client to Jolla? | 14:45 |
| coderus | Andy80: yup | 14:45 |
| Andy80 | coderus: cool :) are there any versions to test avalable? Also, I wasn't able to find the source code anywhere. Haven't you released it or planning to relase? | 14:46 |
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| coderus | i'll upload preview version soon, and public release will be tomorrow | 14:47 |
| Andy80 | cool :) | 14:47 |
| Andy80 | WhatsApp and poor battery were my two main "lockers" to make the switch. Battery is much better without toh daemon and if WA client is almost here... I will be able to switch :) | 14:48 |
| coderus | Andy80: no sources, sorry. i'll publish to opensource after implementing last WA feature. i'm afraid of competitors :D | 14:49 |
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| coderus | Andy80: but it based on Fremantle Yappari source code, it's opensource. i just ported it to Qt5 and added some features to engine, made it server-daemon to work in background, and made fancy Silica UI :) | 14:50 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: in opensource usually there are contributors, not competitors :D | 14:50 |
| Andy80 | anyway it's ok ;) | 14:50 |
| tbr | I'd rather see additional protocols added to telepathy than otherwise | 14:50 |
| Andy80 | I'm now going to study a bit of Silica UI. I don't even know how to write/implement basic stuff | 14:50 |
| tbr | that way they integrate seemlessly with the whole OS | 14:50 |
| coderus | Andy80: i can push UI to opensource contributions, not engine :) | 14:51 |
| tbr | and with contacts | 14:51 |
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| coderus | tbr: just need to compile libpurple to nemo and voila! | 14:51 |
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| coderus | haze have many protocols | 14:51 |
| coderus | also whatsapp ported to libpurple :) | 14:51 |
| tbr | coderus: so this whatsapp thing is for haze? | 14:51 |
| Elessar | coderus: can you help me with the brightness question? | 14:51 |
| coderus | Andy80: start with Hello world. | 14:51 |
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| tbr | (I know very well what telepathy-haze is) | 14:52 |
| coderus | Elessar: i have no Jolla device, sorry :( | 14:52 |
| coderus | only Nokia N9 with port | 14:52 |
| coderus | tbr: no, i'm just letting you know | 14:52 |
| Elessar | coderus: I also don't have yet, but it will be sad to get it withot the reader ready( | 14:52 |
| tbr | coderus: well, that's useless then | 14:53 |
| coderus | Elessar: i think there should be api for thar | 14:53 |
| coderus | for that* | 14:53 |
| coderus | tbr: why? just compile libpurple | 14:53 |
| tbr | coderus: you're contradicting yourself now... | 14:54 |
| tbr | coderus: first you say that this whatsapp thing is not possible with haze now you tell me to use libpurple, which is haze | 14:54 |
| Elessar | coderus: unfortunately I don't see anything like this in official SDK or Qt API | 14:56 |
| Elessar | any way, is there something like avahi/dnssd in Jolla? | 14:56 |
| Elessar | for multicasting dns requests | 14:56 |
| Elessar | haven't seen anything like this in SDK/Emulator | 14:57 |
| coderus | tbr: libpurple is NOT haze :D | 15:02 |
| coderus | tbr: libpurple is telepathy library for pidgin protocol plugins | 15:03 |
| coderus | tbr: and haze is pidgin plugin, so its need to heve libpurple on board to use haze | 15:03 |
| tbr | yes... | 15:03 |
| coderus | tbr: and there is whatsapp protocol plugin for pidgin, so we can use it with libpurple only | 15:04 |
| tbr | so it is possible | 15:04 |
| Andy80 | I've created my Hello World from the SDK wizard... but I'm really missing the basic infos.... for example I don't understand where I can put a PageHeader... or if I need to insert a SilicaListView inside a Column or not.... | 15:04 |
| Andy80 | where can I find a tutorial? | 15:04 |
| coderus | tbr: sure, just compile libpurple for Nemo and you can use many many useful plugins in telepathy | 15:04 |
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| tbr | ok | 15:04 |
| tbr | well, one more thing for the community repository then | 15:04 |
| coderus | Andy80: do you developed QML in past? | 15:05 |
| tbr | will try to package things up or encourage other people to package those up | 15:05 |
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| Andy80 | coderus: long time ago and just 1 app :P I can say that I don't know much about QML (to be honest) | 15:05 |
| coderus | Andy80: well, then just press F1 twice and read Silica reference. There are some examples inside each article. | 15:06 |
| Andy80 | coderus: I remember there are a couple of (in progress) books about Qt5 and QML, but I don't remember their names... one was on QML in general and the other one about Jolla development. Does anyone of you remember their names? | 15:07 |
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| coderus | Andy80: first you just need to understand elements mechanics, how it works. | 15:07 |
| coderus | Andy80: sorry, no books. QML is too simple for me after using heavy languages, so i didnt read any book about QML, reference articles was enough for me all this time | 15:08 |
| coderus | Andy80: just simulate UI you want to have and play with QML elements | 15:09 |
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| Andy80 | what you mean with "simulate" ? | 15:09 |
| Andy80 | I can manually draw it maybe... | 15:10 |
| coderus | means design, draw in mind/sheet | 15:10 |
| Andy80 | yeah.. I can do it | 15:10 |
| coderus | Main item is Page, its clean sheet for PageStack. | 15:10 |
| Andy80 | but that doesn't mean I know which UI components to use after that :) | 15:10 |
| coderus | for Silica ui main interactive item is SilicaFlickable. In most cases you must put all elements inside SIlicaFlickable, including PageHEader | 15:11 |
| Andy80 | coderus: can I put a ListView inside a SilicaFlickable for example? In that case the PageHeader goes inside SilicaFlickable or inside the ListView? | 15:12 |
| coderus | Andy80: just open Reference by F1, go to Silica Reference Documentation and read about EACH element. THere are not too many, and you must know all of them to use in proper way | 15:12 |
| Andy80 | ok, I will do it | 15:12 |
| coderus | Andy80: sure you can put everything inside everything. | 15:12 |
| coderus | Andy80: but you must find a best | 15:14 |
| coderus | QMl is like Lego(tm). You can do everything, but in some cases peoples making ugly things, in some good :) | 15:15 |
| Andy80 | :) | 15:15 |
| jani | Andy80: was afk, did you get it working ? | 15:24 |
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| Andy80 | jani: yes and no.... rpm deploy doesn't work, but at least binary deployment does. Now the most difficoult part: learn about SilicaUI and QML :) | 15:26 |
| jani | Andy80: k, then we are in shame shape =) | 15:26 |
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| jani | interesting, backups look like they are done with git :D | 15:37 |
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| jani | where does sdk store the build tools like qmake ? they are not in the path by default .. | 16:42 |
| Elleo | jani: they're inside a virtual machine image | 16:42 |
| jani | yeah, where are the inside the vm ? ;) | 16:43 |
| jani | are are they in inside the vm .. | 16:43 |
| jani | duh, typos .. | 16:43 |
| Elleo | I think they're inside a chroot somewhere iirc; although you don't need to actually use them manually just to do stuff from the command line | 16:43 |
| jani | need != want ;) | 16:43 |
| Elleo | is you use the mb2 tool it'll do all the chrooting and stuff for you | 16:43 |
| Elleo | e.g. "mb2 qmake" "mb2 make" "mb2 build" etc. | 16:44 |
| Elleo | hmm, not sure, I had thought it was in the host_targets but it seems I was wrong | 16:46 |
| jani | thanks. that should be enough for now. | 16:46 |
| Elleo | aha | 16:46 |
| Elleo | /opt/cross | 16:46 |
| Elleo | mb2 makes life much easier though :) | 16:47 |
| jani | looks about right. | 16:53 |
| jani | and yey, got meegopas to build! | 16:53 |
| Elleo | nice :) | 16:54 |
| jani | small macro bug in spec file calling qmake. | 16:54 |
| coderus | mb2 -t SailfishOS-arv7hl build rpm/meegopas.spec | 17:01 |
| Wnt | wow, the ability to run projects on the phone with one click from the IDE is very nice! | 17:07 |
| Andy80 | coderus: I've found the book about QML I was talking about before http://qmlbook.org :) | 17:09 |
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| coderus | Andy80 good :) | 17:16 |
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| Andy80 | I remember that someone said that by default the volume of Android apps is a bit low and that there is an app to download to increase it... which is this app name? | 17:23 |
| tuukkah | hey jani, meegopas is your app? | 17:27 |
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| jani | tuukkah: nope, but i need something like that and spotted tmo thread that someone made poc port of it to sailfish .. and now im checking what i should fix still to make it work for my use. | 17:28 |
| * tuukkah is on negative karma because of an idea that seems to be controversial %-) | 17:28 | |
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| tuukkah | jani, important work. where's the source btw? | 17:30 |
| Pnuu | tuukkah: pulley menu? | 17:30 |
| tuukkah | Pnuu, yeah :-) | 17:30 |
| Pnuu | noticed that it has -4 :-D | 17:30 |
| jani | tuukkah: my fork: https://github.com/rasjani/meegopas | 17:31 |
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| tuukkah | jani, thanks | 17:33 |
| hardcodes | What is meant by network time? The phone network operator? In Germany they tend to not send the time! | 17:34 |
| tuukkah | hey hardcodes, thanks for your book! | 17:34 |
| hardcodes | Oh, wrong channel :-D | 17:34 |
| hardcodes | tuukkah: your welcome! | 17:35 |
| jani | tuukkah: builds and installs fine, definitely needs some work on ui. | 17:37 |
| tbr | tuukkah: which one? | 17:37 |
| tuukkah | tbr, https://together.jolla.com/question/1306/combine-app-close-and-pulley-menu/ | 17:38 |
| tbr | ah | 17:39 |
| tbr | controversial indeed | 17:39 |
| tbr | nerd rage backlash | 17:39 |
| Pnuu | oh, it's already at -7 :-P | 17:42 |
| * tbr doesn't get any karma as he only votes and posts comments... | 17:44 | |
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| jani | karma whore with 271 ;) | 17:45 |
| Pnuu | I'm at 69 | 17:46 |
| Pnuu | nice karma, that ;-) | 17:46 |
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| Wnt | Are there any QML + C++ example projects or tutoials for Sailfish? | 17:49 |
| Wnt | I'd like to create an application that fetches some JSON data with HTTP requests based on user input and display the result JSON formatted with QML | 17:50 |
| Wnt | so I guess I have to do the HTTP request with QtNetwork in C++ and have an interface available for my QML | 17:51 |
| jani | Wnt: *g* sounds like exactly what my plan is ;) | 17:52 |
| Jonni | jani: feel free to make push request for meegopas, I've been a bit busy to improve it lately. | 17:52 |
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| coderus | Wnt: simple how-to is inside Qt Assistant. Just press F1. | 17:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hyvää joulua sailors! | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | houhouhou! | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | so | 17:55 |
| coderus | Wnt: for parsing json you can use QtJsonDocument | 17:55 |
| jani | Jonni: already sent one - only a small one but without that, i couldnt get it building. | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | it seems gdb does not crash on me anymore | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but the only thing it can do atm is break on breakpoints :| | 17:55 |
| coderus | Wnt: or if simple short json reply you can parse it directly in QML using JSON.parse | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (btw I also get debug console out) | 17:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | anyone has a hint on how to test gdb ? | 17:55 |
| Wnt | coderus: Do you know if QtJsonDocument is already available for harbour applications? | 17:56 |
| coderus | Wnt: *QJsonDocument | 17:56 |
| coderus | Wnt: sure, its quite simple library | 17:56 |
| Wnt | coderus: it's not listed in https://harbour.jolla.com/faq Or is it part of some library listed there? | 17:57 |
| Wnt | ok, seems to be part of QT Core | 17:57 |
| coderus | Wnt: its part of qtbase, i think | 17:58 |
| jani | Jonni: plans on pushing to harbour ? | 17:58 |
| Jonni | jani: ah, your building with qtcreator... I was building from commandline, merged the fix. | 17:58 |
| Jonni | jani: well there is still one path which fails the current QA script, I'm looking into if I can bypass that or have the path whitelisted. | 17:59 |
| Jonni | jani: so maybe at some point. | 17:59 |
| jani | is there any way to run those qa scripts without actually pushing to store - or can i just try it on my own? | 18:01 |
| Elleo | yeah, access to the qa scripts to verify stuff would be nice | 18:02 |
| Elleo | having it built into qtcreator would also be pretty awesome | 18:02 |
| coderus | tuukkah: added karma, just because having negative karma is bad :) | 18:02 |
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| Pnuu | Elleo: sounds like a together item | 18:03 |
| Elleo | Pnuu: good point, will add it now | 18:03 |
| coderus | tuukkah: but my Mitakuuluu using long lists and pulley menus, and i solved that situation for myself by having active PageHeader and different pressDelays for flickable and listview | 18:03 |
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| Wnt | coderus: I cannot find the simple howto you mentioned? | 18:05 |
| coderus | hey, /sbin/ifconfig wlan0 up: SIOCSIFFLAGS: Operation not possible due to RF-kill, wtf? | 18:05 |
| Wnt | where is it in Qt Creator's help? | 18:05 |
| Elleo | Pnuu: https://together.jolla.com/question/1593/integrate-qa-testing-scripts-with-sailfish-sdk/ :) | 18:06 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: connman controls rfkill | 18:06 |
| coderus | Wnt: F1 | 18:06 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: any way i can enable/disable wlan0 in terminal without rfkill block? | 18:07 |
| Elessar | I have to repeat my questions: is there any way to control screen's brightness? and is there any analogue for avahi/dnssd on Sailfish? | 18:07 |
| Wnt | coderus: yes, that opens a "Qt Creator Manual" with lots of API documentation and some content like "Getting Started" | 18:07 |
| coderus | wlan down is okay, but i can up interface only via gui settings :( | 18:07 |
| Wnt | but cannot find a QML + C++ sample from there | 18:07 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: connman-test(s) package and enable wifi or something like that | 18:07 |
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| Pnuu | Elleo: added harbour tag :-) | 18:08 |
| jani | Wnt: signal example atleast combines c++ and qml/js .. | 18:09 |
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| Elleo | Pnuu: thanks :) | 18:10 |
| Wnt | jani: oh, thank you! And that signals example is available from Welcome -> Tutorials | 18:10 |
| smokex | in c++, basically anthing you want ot be accessible by the qml should be made a property | 18:11 |
| coderus | Wnt: article called: "Interacting with QML Objects from C++" | 18:12 |
| Wnt | coderus: Thank you, found that using the index in Help | 18:13 |
| coderus | Wnt: good, here everything about interacting in both ways | 18:14 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: i found connamn properties in dbus, thats enough :) | 18:18 |
| Andy80 | if in a source code I've this "import Sailfish.Silica.theme 1.0", QtCreator underline it as not found (I'm just playing with the "hello world" app created by SDK wizard....) | 18:20 |
| Andy80 | is it a known issue? | 18:21 |
| coderus | Andy80: what you trying to do? There are no theme item in SIlica. There is global Theme element, you dont need to import it. It available in Sailfish.Silica 1.0 | 18:23 |
| Andy80 | coderus: then the code created by the SDK wizard must be fixed. That import is present when you create a new app using the QtCreator Sailfish App wizard | 18:24 |
| coderus | my old QtCreator with old SDK not creating theme import in default Silica app | 18:26 |
| suy | Andy80: I've just installed the sdk (brand new). In which qml source file you have the red underline? | 18:27 |
| Andy80 | suy: in FirstPage.qml and SecondPage.qml, but probably I created this app with the very first version of the SDK | 18:27 |
| suy | I have some red underlined items in CoverPage.qml. But I've seen that even with plain creator and plain qt quick. I think the analyzer is not that smart. | 18:27 |
| * Andy80 need to go for dinner, see you later | 18:28 | |
| suy | ok | 18:28 |
| suy | That's what I hate about templates provided by Creator and stuff. You get a bunch of code that is not really Hello World. Is a bit more, and then things don't work perfectly, and you don't know why... | 18:29 |
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| coderus | Mitakuuluu for Sailfish - preview build: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kyo4tzo7298lkkg/rpf_rInGry | 18:30 |
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| coderus | Please send your bugreports to: coderusinbox@gmail.com | 18:30 |
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| jani | coderus: git url ? =) | 18:40 |
| coderus | jani: no sources ;) | 18:41 |
| Yaniel | totally trusted | 18:41 |
| jani | g'damn | 18:42 |
| coderus | jani: discussed about sources a hour ago | 18:42 |
| coderus | in short: sources will be published after last WA feature will be implementes. i'm afraid of competitors :) | 18:43 |
| coderus | s/implementes/implemented | 18:43 |
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| jani | hah ok, i was just curious. | 18:43 |
| coderus | jani: is based on Fremantle Yappari sources, its opensource, you can check its surces if need :) | 18:44 |
| coderus | in case you dont trust closed source im chat client you can google my person :) | 18:44 |
| jani | coderus: nah, i was just interested on checking the codebase as im in spree of trying to learn as much as possible. | 18:46 |
| jani | so not about trusting. | 18:46 |
| coderus | http://repository.maemo.org/extras/pool/fremantle-1.3/free/source/y/yappari/ | 18:47 |
| coderus | here sources of Yappari | 18:47 |
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| suy | coderus: it's a whatsapp application, then? awesome. I guess it's all C++? | 18:55 |
| coderus | suy: its WhatsApp client, right. Qt5/Silica | 18:57 |
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| Pnuu | coderus: https://together.jolla.com/question/710/oh-come-on-whatsapp-petition/#post-id-1677 | 19:00 |
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| raa70 | coderus: installed mitakuuluu on jolla, trying to start gives all white screen =( | 19:04 |
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| coderus | raa70: just uploaded buid №2 - fixing loading bug :D | 19:08 |
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| raa70 | longest.... pulley menu.... ever.... | 19:21 |
| valdur55 | what is the max lenght for pulley menu? | 19:22 |
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| raa70 | coderus: can | 19:28 |
| raa70 | t see names | 19:28 |
| raa70 | only numbers show up | 19:28 |
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| coderus | raa70: hold on contact and choose Refresh. It should retrieve nichname from server | 19:35 |
| coderus | raa70: or you have problems with contact synchronization? | 19:35 |
| coderus | valdur55: i think screen height is max :) | 19:35 |
| coderus | raa70: i just tried to add everything in pulley, in most usable order :D | 19:36 |
| raa70 | guy I'm messaging with got name from somwhere, but that refresh thing doesnt work on others | 19:39 |
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| coderus | raa70: emm, did you opened "Sync phonebook" from pull down menu to retrieve contacts? | 19:44 |
| raa70 | yes | 19:44 |
| coderus | raa70: and contacts appeared with numbers instead of names? | 19:44 |
| raa70 | yes | 19:45 |
| coderus | raa70: nad in Sync phonebook page you see contacts names? | 19:46 |
| raa70 | yes | 19:46 |
| coderus | raa70: thanks fot the info, i will fix that :) | 19:47 |
| raa70 | actually the guy whose name is working has same number as mobile phone and home numbers, i think other numbers are mobile | 19:47 |
| raa70 | another guy answered to message, now he got name but i think it's the nick he has set in whatsapp | 19:48 |
| raa70 | aaaand power is out, so i don't know how long the battery on this pos will last | 19:49 |
| raa70 | thank god for mobile connections | 19:50 |
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| ShadowJK | I used to have days of internet | 20:05 |
| ShadowJK | I took part in building my ISP :) And our main switch cabinet had access to generator backed up circuit at the local health centre :D | 20:06 |
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| raa70 | coderus: default nickname: Persecute user, default status: I'm using persecute! =) | 20:06 |
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| ShadowJK | unfortunately some idiots working on our switches short circuited the cabinet with a spanner, and also killed life support systems. | 20:07 |
| ShadowJK | we got kicked off the generator circuit :( | 20:07 |
| ShadowJK | so now we've only got 60min backup | 20:07 |
| raa70 | coderus: also i think the | 20:08 |
| raa70 | ffs | 20:08 |
| raa70 | never get used to this laptop keyboard | 20:08 |
| raa70 | coderus: also i think the settings and account should have left pull for save and right pull for discard | 20:09 |
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| coderus | raa70: settings saves if you pressing return key | 20:18 |
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| pcfe | when I create a backup in the UI with Preferences / Backup, where is the file saved on the filesystem? | 20:44 |
| Pnuu | pcfe: /home/nemo/.vault I believe | 20:44 |
| pcfe | Pnuu: thx | 20:46 |
| pcfe | rsyn running, about to test wipe | 20:46 |
| ibins | pcfe: someone on #jollamobile suggested tarring .vault and transfering it then to the PC | 20:47 |
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| pcfe | ibins: yeah, rsync does the same | 20:48 |
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| ibins | pcfe: hm: what about the files with group "priviledged" there on the device? | 20:52 |
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| pcfe | not sure I understand what you mean. Files which the user nemo has no read permissions to? | 20:55 |
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| jani | ibins: or maybe setup a remote git repo to .vault and just do git push ? as it seems that .vault is actually a git repo. | 21:12 |
| ibins | pcfe: with rsync you change the group of the files. I do not know what happens, if you return the rsynced files that now belong to a different group | 21:14 |
| ibins | jani: this is an interesting idea :-) | 21:14 |
| pcfe | oh I'm not fussed about that, the only thing I really want backed up are 2 or 3 SMSes that I received in the first hours of playing, those will be fine and belong to nemo | 21:15 |
| ibins | jani: I just don't think that git is such a perfect tool to backup on a remote device, when files like .avi or .jpg are involved :-) | 21:15 |
| jani | not efficient but would be very easy to backup and restore even in case of total wipe. | 21:18 |
| pcfe | once I take the phone into real use, I for one, will be happy if I can git push to my local server to backup my phone ;-) | 21:20 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, SMS from whatsapp comes but doesn't get detected. How to enter the Code without "-" allowed in that textfield? I tried without, but that failed | 21:23 |
| olofk | I'm giving up trying to run my simple QML app with QT creator. Any of you CLI junkies who have a few scripts for building and pushing RPMs and running it on the emulator or real device? | 21:24 |
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| olofk | I thought I read earlier about some project on github that got some nice scripts, but it's been pushed out of my scrollback buffer | 21:25 |
| jani | olofk: what sort of problems you are facing? | 21:33 |
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| jani | and woah, DatePickerDialog doesnt have week day indicators =( | 21:34 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: SMS HAndler is not implemented for Jolla | 21:37 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: you need to enter 6-digit code | 21:37 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: failed what? | 21:38 |
| Morpog_PC | ok, i tried that without dash, but it failed | 21:38 |
| Morpog_PC | to register | 21:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | I get a code by SMS that looks like that: | 21:38 |
| Morpog_PC | 123-456 | 21:38 |
| coderus | olofk: login to build machine and compile with mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl build | 21:38 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: failed what? what error message? | 21:39 |
| Morpog_PC | As I couldn't enter code that way, I entered it like that: 123456 | 21:39 |
| Morpog_PC | Sorry, don't remember exactly, will do a screenshot next time. Need to wait 3 hours till I can try again | 21:39 |
| coderus | :D | 21:40 |
| coderus | send me log from /home/nemo/.whatsapp/whatsapp.log | 21:40 |
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| Morpog_PC | send in MSG | 21:42 |
| Morpog_PC | coderus, aaand now sent to email :D | 21:44 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: got it, thanks. nothing suspicious | 21:45 |
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| Morpog_PC | coderus, so I should enter the code without the "-"? Just as I tried before? | 21:46 |
| Morpog_PC | 123456 | 21:46 |
| Morpog_PC | Code in SMS looks like that: 123-456 | 21:46 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: yes | 21:49 |
| Morpog_PC | Ok, will try again laters | 21:49 |
| coderus | Mitakuuluu test beta3 added: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kyo4tzo7298lkkg/rpf_rInGry?m= | 21:49 |
| Morpog_PC | will let you know if it works | 21:49 |
| coderus | fixed syncing phonebook | 21:50 |
| Morpog_PC | oh, great | 21:50 |
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| Morpog_PC | but that was link to old version :) | 21:51 |
| olofk | jani: Instead of using a c++ entry point, I want to launch my QML-only app with sailfish-qml from libsailfishapp-launcher. This was way trickier than I expected to do in QT creator. Had some success by setting TEMPLATE=aux in the .pro file, but that also removes the option to launch through the emulator | 21:52 |
| coderus | Morpog_PC: that link to folder >.< | 21:53 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, now ut works strange | 21:53 |
| Morpog_PC | maybe cache of my firefox didn't update | 21:53 |
| * coderus going to sleep | 21:55 | |
| Morpog_PC | thx and cya | 21:55 |
| jani | ok, not that far yet =) | 21:55 |
| olofk | coderus: about mb2, will that build the RPM, deploy it and run it on the device/emulator? | 21:57 |
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| Morpog_PC | Sfiet_Konstantin, still crashes from desktop link | 23:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: geez | 23:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | can you give me the bt coming from journalctl ? | 23:34 |
| Morpog_PC | tell me how :D | 23:35 |
| Morpog_PC | and where | 23:35 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | devel-su <pw> | 23:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | journactl -fa | 23:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and then launch from desktop file | 23:36 |
| Morpog_PC | bash: journactl: command not found | 23:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | journalctl | 23:36 |
| Morpog_PC | I shouldn't copy/paste :D | 23:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | got it | 23:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I tried the package built from OBS | 23:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | there is an issue with booster | 23:38 |
| Morpog_PC | http://pastie.org/8576017 | 23:38 |
| Morpog_PC | just for sure :) | 23:38 |
| Morpog_PC | eek copied too much | 23:39 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ooster: Loading invoked application failed: '/usr/bin/harbour-friends: Kann das Programm nicht dynamisch Laden' | 23:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | this is enough to tell me that we got the same issue | 23:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | fixed the spec file | 23:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | now it should work | 23:42 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, I see mer-boss ;) | 23:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | obs is so <3 | 23:42 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | fast, and building oss apps so easily | 23:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i like it | 23:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah, I need to have the donation link set up | 23:42 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | read the "what works" section on TMO ? | 23:43 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (just to be sure :)) | 23:43 |
| Morpog_PC | nothing works, was last I read :) | 23:43 |
| Morpog_PC | ah u edited | 23:43 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: test now ? | 23:45 |
| Morpog_PC | works o/ | 23:46 |
| Morpog_PC | smooth | 23:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I devoted some time to the ui | 23:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wanted to mimic the side menu from FB apps using the attached page | 23:48 |
| Morpog_PC | wouldn't it then the other way around? | 23:48 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: think about this flow | 23:49 |
| Morpog_PC | swipe to right to get content | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | you go to friensd view | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | then to friend album | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and want to go back* | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | if you pull from left to right to get the menu it conflixts with going back gesture | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I thought about putting the menu to the right | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but no ... | 23:49 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I couldn't :( | 23:49 |
| Morpog_PC | it works good | 23:50 |
| Morpog_PC | just gets needing used to | 23:50 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | I planned more features | 23:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but first, let's display photos | 23:51 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | (I mean pictures in posts) | 23:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or better ... let's play with shaders :D | 23:52 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, that personal banner could have it's boundaries softened | 23:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Morpog_PC: I think that I won't abuse with back gradient | 23:55 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will use a transparent graident | 23:55 |
| Morpog_PC | sounds good | 23:55 |
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