Monday, 2013-12-16

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corcrashAny ide when the OS is comming out for any Andoid devices?01:12
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crevetorHi, is it normal that I don't see the VKB when I'm in an input field in the emulator ?01:15
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wmarone__corcrash: if it does, it will probably be community ports01:23
corcrashwmarone__, kk, ty... And any info on the availability of Jolla phones outside of Norway? (I'm from Serbia)01:24
wmarone__s/norway/finland/ and I have no idea. I'm in the US myself and want one too01:24
corcrashwmarone__, kk, ty :D01:25
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MFaro-Tusinoanyone around?02:49
ElleoI'm around, probably not much use though ;)02:52
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MFaro-Tusinojust wanting to find the wallpaper directory02:55
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Elleono clue I'm afraid, haven't got a phone to poke around yet02:59
MFaro-TusinoElleo: Thanks anyway - I'm just using the N950 image atm - found some interesting icon files (youtube, vimeo, spotify etc)03:00
Elleo:)03:02
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ericccmoroing07:01
situWhen I boot sailfish vm, it doesn't boot to UI. I don't see any error messages either. How should I trace the problem ?07:09
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Yanielhow do you boot it?07:11
situI just try to deploy and run my application on it.07:13
Yanielyou need to click the emulator icon in wt creator first to start the vm07:14
Yanielit does not autostart07:14
Yanieland for building you need to start the sdk vm07:14
Yanielthe sdk vm does not show any window btw07:15
Yanielit is not supposed to07:15
situYes, I see the emulator window.07:15
situBut it's not showing UI.07:15
Yanieljust a black screen?07:15
situYes07:15
Yanielwhich sdk version were you using again?07:15
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Yanielthe emulator used to go into powersave mode07:16
Yaniel-> black screen07:16
Yanielbut it still would wake up when an app started07:16
tuukkahsitu, you can try to wake it up with right ctrl + h07:17
tuukkahYaniel, with the latest sdk, the emulator sometimes goes to some kind of powersave mode where it shows the console with some text07:18
situtuukkah: It's not running at all.07:18
Yanielpowersave should not show anything07:18
situI am not on the latest version, how should I check for my current versoin number ?07:18
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Yanieland iirc the powersave thing has been fixed07:19
tuukkahsitu, if you have an emulator window (title "Sailfish OS Emulator") then it's running?07:19
situYes, it's running. But it just shows me tty terminals.07:19
tuukkahYaniel, what i'm seeing is something else then07:20
tuukkahsitu, ok so sounds the same as i'm describing above07:20
situI am on version 1310.07:21
tuukkahhmm, in the sailfish ui, i just pressed right ctrl + h and got to text console, then another time and got back. but can't reproduce right away07:21
situhostkey + h doesn't seem to do anything.07:21
tuukkahsometimes it freezes the ui to the lock screen07:23
situWhich logs should I check ?07:23
tuukkahhave you tried to ssh into the emulator?07:23
ericcc latest sdk cannot  black screen.i had  try07:24
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situI can open a console pressing hostkey + f2.07:25
situSo yes, I have access to it through command line.07:25
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tuukkahericcc, i updated yesterday and now it says "no updates available" so i suppose i'm running the latest07:26
jake9xxtuukkah: can you check qt creator version?07:26
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tuukkahjake9xx, qt creator 2.8.1 built on dec 1107:27
ericcc@tuukkah  i  dont uodates  ,it  advise me  reinstall sdk07:27
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tuukkahbefore updating, i also installed from the latest installer07:28
jake9xxtuukkah: looks like legit. Can you also check SailfishOS emulator version?07:28
jake9xxtuukkah: yes, that's how it goes. First ifw (installer) is updated to 1.4.0-2 and that then updates the rest07:28
tuukkahjake9xx, how do i check emulator version?07:30
jake9xxsitu if you're on 1310 you will face problems with repositories in building phase07:30
situjake9xx: I have started updating07:31
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ericcc@tuukkah  win7?mac?07:31
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jake9xxtuukkah: QtC: Help -> Start updater -> Choose 'Package manager' from SDK updater07:32
tuukkahericcc, ubuntu07:32
tuukkahjake9xx, 2013.12.10-107:32
jake9xxtuukkah: ok, that part is good. What about your VirtualBox ?07:32
jake9xxwhich version etc?07:32
tuukkahthe version from precise: 4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.507:34
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jake9xxok, it's too old07:37
jake9xxyou should have 4.2 at least07:37
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jake9xxnice bug on our website as well07:38
jake9xx*sigh*07:38
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jake9xxhttps://sailfishos.org/alpha_qt5_sdk_release_notes.html does not tell you should have 4.2.18, it tells 4.18 :D07:38
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tuukkahjake9xx, other than sometimes going to the console (and now host+h freezing the display), i haven't noticed any problems with this version07:41
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situveskuh: Please see my comment on https://github.com/veskuh/Tweetian/pull/1/files#r835630207:49
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jake9xxtuukkah: I don't remember what it exactly was but I saw issues with 4.1 in sdk development at least07:54
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gnikandrovHi everyone! If anyone does have Jolla phone and has some spare time, I'd be grateful if you'd check small "torch" aka "flashlight" app I wrote. Simple yes/no would be sufficient.08:01
gnikandrovhttp://station.feuerplatz.ru/sailfish/Torch/08:01
gnikandrovThanks in advance :)08:01
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Fryegnikandrov, I'll dl the sources and take a look at it but I'm working so it may take a few moments as I need to get my work done too :-)08:06
FryeBut this is the app I have been waiting for.08:06
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gnikandrovWell, if it works, I'd like to polish it a bit more and upload it to harbour08:07
Fryeofcourse08:07
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jake9xxgnikandrov: installed at least ok08:08
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jake9xxgnikandrov: ui-wise ok, but flash does not activate08:09
gnikandrovoh damn. The C++ code itself was working with Harmattan, so I though it might as well work with Sailfish.08:10
gnikandrovNever mind then...08:10
tuukkahif there's no flash for video mode, probably continuous flash is not possible?08:10
tbrI know that artem has something that works on a Jolla08:11
gnikandrovHmm, Jolla has no continuos flash for video recording?08:11
tbrbut the APIs are not (yet) kosher for harbour08:11
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jake9xxgnikandrov: chekc that your c++ matches to http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qml-qtmultimedia5-cameraflash.html08:12
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tuukkahgnikandrov, at least in the camera app ui, when i choose video mode, the only flash option that remains is "off"08:13
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jake9xxhttp://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qcameraexposure.html#FlashMode-enum defines QCameraExposure::FlashTorch, that should be used08:13
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jake9xxthen you don't instantiate the full camera stuff08:14
tuukkahwhat about this? http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtmultimedia/qml-qtmultimedia5-torch.html08:15
gnikandrovjake9xx: QML Camera.FlashTorch wasn't working at least not on N9, there's even bugreport https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTMOBILITY-183408:15
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jake9xxJolla != N9. We're using Qt5 and totally different HW.08:15
artemmajake9xx: I was beating my head hard against torch the last month. It's just not implemented beyond the Android HAL level yet08:15
artemmawill be at some point, not now08:16
tbr:)08:17
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tuukkahartemma, does that mean that camera app is going to get video mode flash as well?08:19
artemmatuukkah: I thought it's already in :)08:19
artemmai guess yes, if it's not08:19
artemmaI was only interested in torch-usable modes08:20
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tuukkahartemma, what's the difference between video mode flash and torch?08:20
artemmaI tried them all (well to the extent I could). I think I tried video mode with ON too (hoping to simulate continuous video recording with flash ON) and it didn't work08:21
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tuukkahartemma, good to hear they're coming at some point!08:25
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gnikandrovWell, at least in Qt4 setCaptureMode(QCamera::CaptureVideo) and ExposureControl->setFlashMode( QCameraExposure::FlashTorch ) was enough to make flash shine. I though Qt5 would make it easier to get it working, but alas...08:25
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Yanielmaybe once it is actually implemented08:27
jake9xxMSameer: ^ you might wanna say something08:27
tuukkahgnikandrov, what could be easier api-wise than the QML Torch { enabled: true; power: 100 }08:27
gnikandrovtuukkah: that would be just great, I just doubt it works. I'll try in a few minutes.08:29
tuukkahgnikandrov, at the moment, trying to instantiate that api gives me a lot of GLib-GObject-CRITICALs starting with "Object class GstDroidCamSrc doesn't implement property 'zoom' from interface 'GstPhotography'"08:31
jake9xxgnikandrov: hmm.. nothing comes to journal either08:31
jake9xxthat's strange08:31
gnikandrovtuukkah: GstDroidCamSrc <- so it's some kind of Android API wrapper? Sounds to me like this.08:32
jake9xxgnikandrov: hmmm... you instantiate the flashcontrol in c++ side, right?08:33
tuukkahgnikandrov, thought so too08:33
Yanielremember sailfish relies heavily on libhybris? :P08:33
Stskeepsnooo nooo08:34
gnikandrovjake9xx: yes, that's right.08:34
Stskeepssailfish is very hw adaptation independent, libhybris is just one hw adaptation typ08:34
Stskeepse08:34
Stskeeps:P08:34
gnikandrovYaniel: i though libhybris was mainly about libc calls wrapping08:34
Yanielsorry, jolla is08:35
Yanielyes?08:35
Yaniellibhybris is for using android drivers in libc-based systems08:36
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jake9xxgnikandrov: well.. I don't get javascript errors on the journal so that part is ok and your c++ magic works. The API itself just prolly ain't there yet08:36
sharpneliJolla doesn't heavily depend on it either.08:36
FryeThe Torch {} does not work yet.08:36
ericcc@Frye torch  on  vbox?or   real jolla?08:40
FryeReal device08:41
Frye(TestTorch:27426): GLib-GObject-CRITICAL **: Object class GstDroidCamSrc doesn't implement property 'autofocus' from interface 'GstPhotography'08:41
FryeThere's quite a bit of messages like this. So looks like the access to HW is not yet there.08:41
FryeMaybe one of these days.08:41
FryeThat above has nothing to do with the torch. Just for reference :-)08:42
tuukkahFrye, yes, and same errors with Camera { flash.mode:Camera.FlashTorch; captureMode: Camera.CaptureVideo }08:42
FryeYeah. It's rewarding to see I still have some use for my iPhone :D08:42
FryeCarry it around for flashlight...08:43
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gnikandrovMaybe there's some way to mess with low-level V4L2? Which API Jolla uses internally to access video h/w?08:43
tuukkahGst == gstreamer?08:44
Pnuuanyone knows if there are some power saving features or tweaks still to come?08:44
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specialPnuu: yes.08:45
gnikandrovWell, I suppose it's more or less as in Harmattan: QtMultimedia -> GStreamer -> V4L208:45
Pnuugreat :-)08:45
Fryetuukkah, yes08:45
specialgnikandrov: I believe there is a gstreamer plugin using libhybris to access the android camera HAL08:46
special(but I know nothing about the camera specifically)08:46
Pnuueven with very little use I need to charge every day, and during the night with no use at all the battery disharges byt 20 %08:46
FryeWhu don't you charge nightly?08:46
Pnuuso I was thinking that maybe some features are still in the future :-)08:46
FryeI always put my both phones to charger overnight =)08:47
PnuuFrye: I do, but I shouldn't need to08:47
FryeAs neither of them runs without that nightly charge through the day08:47
FryeWell it's even better for the battery.08:47
jake9xxgnikandrov: I looked your app with strace for a bit, it seem the feature you ask for is not there08:47
FryeSo I would do it anyway08:47
Pnuuthat is, with the limited use I've had each day08:47
FryeNot would08:48
FryeI do it anyway08:48
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tuukkahFrye, at least i wake up in the middle of the night when the charging finishes, there's some sound and the notification led starts to flash...08:48
FryeThat's a different story then08:49
FryeI never hear any of those.08:49
Fryelike sms tones08:49
Frye:D08:49
FryeIt needs a hell to break loose in the server room before I wake up to the alarms via sms/mail08:49
tuukkahis there a place to file bugs like this?08:49
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tuukkah(with n810 it was a bigger problem as the notification led could light up the room =)08:50
FryeWell it's most likely "as specified" But I see no reason why not make it configurable.08:50
gnikandrovjake9xx: thanks, roger that08:50
jake9xxgnikandrov: you can get strace on your device when you do ssu ar mer-tools ; pkcon refresh ; pkcon install strace08:51
tuukkahjake9xx, what did you see with the strace? that the problem is not the GObject-CRITICALs but some system call?08:53
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jake9xxtuukkah: basically it seems it does not get the signal from qtmultimedia that flash status has changed08:54
jake9xxtuukkah: I don't have that window open anymore, sorry - was looking at something else...08:54
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Nicd-am I right to assume that localstorage is per-app and name conflicts with tables can't happen?09:04
stephgugh09:05
* stephg ← ignore09:05
jake9xxw00t: ^09:06
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Nicd-ah, I give the database name in openDatabaseSync09:08
Nicd-so it works if no other app uses the database name sailtime09:08
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tuukkahNicd-, the sqlite files are also in per-app directories, eg. /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-wikipedia/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/7147a126dfc8ef36e98c713f60ab80a9.sqlite09:10
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Nicd-ok, good09:11
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tuukkahanyone know how to do package builds on the command line? https://github.com/amarchen/Wikipedia/issues/209:16
jake9xxmb2 -t <targetname> rpm ?09:19
jake9xxssh to mersdk vm as 'mersdk'09:19
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kaltsituukkah: : mb2 -t target qmake ; mb2 -t target rpm09:23
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tuukkahjake9xx, grepping a strace of the torch test for camera is interesting indeed: /system/lib/hw/camera.msm8960.so /system/lib/libcamera_client.so /system/lib/libmmcamera_interface2.so QualcommCamera -mode-values=off,auto,on,torch09:37
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tuukkahhmm, tad scary sharing my real home directory as mersdk:/home/mersdk09:59
tuukkahall it takes is one mistake in some spec file that results in rm -rf ~10:00
specialtuukkah: I may or may not have one lost a server to that and a bad rsync command once10:00
special-one10:01
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tuukkahthen again, that's not different from building software on the host using your normal user account10:02
specialthe .spec should be inside buildroot anyway10:03
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tuukkahin mersdk:/home i can see deploy owned by root-root, mersdk owned by mersdk-1001, nemo owned by nemo-nemo and src1 owned by mersdk-mersdk10:09
Skorpyhey, I'm not getting any application output, like console.log() and stuff like that. using the latest sdk. can anyone help with this?10:09
tuukkahof which src1 also seems to contain my real host home directory but with different groupid10:10
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FryeSkorpy, I have the same problem10:14
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FryeNo output from running application inside emulator10:14
FryeI just have not had time to see if it's related to the debugger issue10:14
Skorpyok. glad to hear I'm not the only one with this problem :P10:15
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situHell ! console.log doesn't work on latest sdk release.10:23
tuukkahit does when deploying on the real device10:23
jake9xxsitu: it's in known issues -- we're addressing it10:23
jake9xxsitu: it's emulator only issue but we're working on it10:23
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Skorpyoh great. just noticed the known issues link in the topic... should have opened that before asking anything...10:25
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jake9xxSkorpy: 12:12 < MSameer> Subject: Saqib Iqbal made you an administrator of the group Jolla Pioneer Fans.10:26
situI knew it's known issue, was just a bit frustrated :(10:26
jake9xxnice, I hate this copy+paste feature10:26
Skorpy:P10:27
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Skorpyjake9xx: using irssi?10:27
jake9xxSkorpy: yes10:27
Skorpy/set paste_verify_line_count 110:28
jake9xxhttps://sailfishos.org/wiki/SDK_Alpha_Qt5_Known_Issues that's the right url10:28
Skorpyno accidental pastes :P10:28
jake9xxtnx10:28
BysmyyrI hope I find bug because my data counter says: 8GB. Yesterday it was resetted by itself10:29
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tuukkahjake9xx, kaltsi, surprisingly, the build even generated the spec file from the yaml \o/ now i got three rpm files, do i scp them to the phone?10:54
jake9xxone is the real thing10:55
jake9xxone is debug version and third.. umm don't remember :)10:55
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tuukkah ok so no need for -debuginfo and -debugsource?10:55
jake9xxif you know your app is harbour-awesome then it's that rpm most likely10:55
kaltsituukkah: scp just the one without debug yes10:55
jake9xxno, not for normal usage10:55
jake9xxif you run it with gdb then yes10:55
tuukkahunder ~/RPMS?10:55
kaltsituukkah: mb2 will create spec from yaml if yaml is newer than the spec10:55
jake9xxtuukkah: yup, under RPMS10:56
tuukkahkaltsi, i figured i wouldn't want to commit generated files to the git repo10:56
kaltsiyep.. but if necessary you can edit the spec between the documented #>>> #<<< lines in case there's something yaml can't do for you.. and then you can also commit the spec10:57
kaltsiin normal case this is not necessary, but just "fyi"10:57
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kaltsispecify (the binary that converts yaml to spec) will leave the lines between the #>>> things untouched in spec if it already exists10:58
tuukkahkaltsi, thanks, good to know. in the case of harbour-wikipedia, the spec generation produces broken spec file10:58
kaltsihmm broken.. I'd wager the yaml is broken then :)10:59
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tuukkahkaltsi, could very well be that too11:01
jjaone123Hi devs, does anyone know if it's possible to use system Settings GUI for my own app? I mean how do you get an app shown in Settings > Apps section?11:01
Sfiet_Konstantinjjaone123: API not published iirc11:02
Sfiet_Konstantinwould love to have it indeed11:02
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MFaro-Tusinojjaone123: One second, just saw the example package in the repo11:02
whipplerHow can i call a funktion when i swipe to previous page in the app?11:02
jjaone123Sfiet_Konstantin: Yes, indeed.. hope it will be possible later, or soonish,.11:02
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Sfiet_Konstantinwhippler: hum11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinlet me search for it11:03
MFaro-Tusinojolla-settings-examples                        | Settings plugin examples11:03
jjaone123MFaro-Tusino: that would be great ..11:03
Sfiet_Konstantinwhippler: not sure you can, but you can monitor for the status of a page11:03
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Sfiet_Konstantinwhippler: https://sailfishos.org/sailfish-silica/qml-sailfishsilica-page.html#status-prop11:04
jjaone123Mfaro-Tusino: jolla-settings-examples ok,..11:05
whipplerhmm lets see... thanks11:05
MFaro-Tusinojjaone123: Just install it and see it added an entry into Settings main page - so I suggest  you use download only, copy to computer and look inside the code11:06
Sfiet_KonstantinMFaro-Tusino, jjaone123 beware, it might not work for store requirements11:06
MFaro-Tusino^ Should have said that11:07
jjaone123Sfnet_Konstantin: MFaro-Tusino: maybe we get an official API later. when the SDK is more stable.. ?11:08
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MFaro-TusinoI would assume so11:08
MFaro-TusinoMost likely in January11:08
jjaone123Right, I mean it would proper for consistent UX to have app settings in the same place..11:09
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jjaone123Yeh, new features to land at Q1/201411:09
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jjaone123Another thing in SDK that need to be fixed soonish is the Logging.. now we have to use journalctrl in device or emulator ..11:11
jake9xxjjaone123: working on it - as we speak11:11
jake9xxdevice logging on qtcreator works though11:12
jjaone123jake9xx: oh great.. and the journalctl is not that bad either..11:12
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jjaone123While we are at it; I've asked this in Twitter earlier: when can we expect to have QtLinquist external tools available (lupdate and lrelease) in our SDK?11:14
whipplerSfiet_Konstantin: Got it working, with onStatusChanged: {... Thanks11:15
Sfiet_Konstantinwhippler: :)11:15
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tuukkahkaltsi, you were right, the problem is with the yaml and not specify: qtcreator breaks the yaml whenever i switch the target between x86 and arm11:16
kaltsituukkah: ok.. how does it break?11:17
jjaone123.. work-around for QtLinquist is to get those external commands from any other Qt5 SDK, right?11:17
kaltsialso if you are not shadow building, always clean the project after switching between x86/arm11:17
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tuukkahkaltsi, it moves subpackages to top level giving them all the same package name11:17
kaltsituukkah: interesting, can you pastebin your yaml file so I can file this as a bug11:18
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kaltsior could you give me an example how I can reproduce it11:18
tuukkahkaltsi, not mine but artemma's: https://github.com/sailfishapps/Wikipedia/blob/master/rpm/harbour-wikipedia.yaml11:20
kaltsithanks, I'll test that soon11:20
BysmyyrKHVCLTHEekint11:22
Bysmyyrhups, sorry11:22
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kaltsiwe only saw **********11:22
BysmyyrI have no idea where that come. I have youbikey inserted but that is not that password....11:23
tbrkaltsi: really? I saw "hunter2"11:24
whippleris thre some quide about how to make an app support multiple languages?11:25
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Milo-Bysmyyr how did you guess my password?11:28
jjaone123whippler: I started from here: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtlinguist/hellotr.html11:28
jjaone123whippler: and here http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.1/qtdoc/internationalization.html11:30
jake9xxtbr: I saw 0000000011:31
whipplerjjaone123: hmm this needs some time to get into, thanks11:33
tbr:)11:34
jjaone123whippler: yes, I'm quite new to all this, too.. but the examples there are pretty straightforward.. and I actually got the localization to work in my test app .. but ..11:35
tuukkahwhere or what is sailfish-qml? "Exec=$NAME (for Silica applications using C++ and QML) or Exec=sailfish-qml $NAME (for QML-only Silica applications without an application binary)"11:35
tuukkah(quote from https://harbour.jolla.com/faq )11:36
jjaone123whippler: .. but the problem is that some QtLinguist tools are missing from current SailfishOS QtCreator..11:36
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Pnuuany ideas how to change the units from imperial to metric in the here maps?11:39
whipplerjjaone123: okey, maybe i should wait with this. im fine with the app being only english. how would i go by formatting a date and time. right now i have dateTime.toLocaleDateString() + " - " + dateTime.toLocaleTimeString() And it gives quite a lot of stuff.11:39
jjaone123whippler: .. but "lupdate" and "lrelease" can be re-used from some other QtCreator that has them.. and you can generate translation files (like .tr and .qm) with other externals tools, too.. ;)11:39
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jjaone123whippler: formatting QDateTime's you can use some form of format string, e.g.  QString format = "dddd, d MMMM yy hh:mm:ss";11:45
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jjaone123whippler: maybe this helps: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtcore/qdatetime.html11:46
jjaone123Pnuu; that is a good question.. hope it will be possible, cause device lang is not necessarily unit system lang..11:48
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Pnuujjaone123: jeah, I would like to use the phone in english, although I'm a finn11:50
jjaone123Pnuu: same here ;)11:50
jjaone123Pnuu: I think it's just that the Maps just gets the whole localization env from system lang.. and uses that everywhere.. so it's app spesific thing, I guess.11:52
Pnuuyeah, I came to same conclusion11:53
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zuhIf everything is set up sanely, hacking the approperiate LC_* to environment might work11:54
zuhWould be easy enough to test from shell I guess11:54
jjaone123Pnuu: zuh: but if app does not let user to set lang env details or does not respect LC-vars then it's out of users hands..11:55
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jjaone123Pnuu: zuh: in my Desktop Linux; LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8 and LANG=en_US.UTF-811:58
Pnuuhmm11:59
Pnuuwhat's the binary name for the maps app?11:59
zuhI tried with jolla-messages and setting LC_TIME definitely works with that11:59
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jjaone123zuh: ok, sounds good11:59
jjaone123zuh: how did you invoke jolla-messages from terminal? just "LC_TIME=fi_fi jolla-messages"?12:00
zuhLC_TIME=fi_FI.UTF-8 jolla-messages12:01
zuhBut note that it has a pre-start mode where it sits in the background12:01
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jjaone123zuh: right "invoker" something..?12:02
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zuhNo, I think this is separate from that12:04
jjaone123Pnuu: /usr/bin/sailfish-maps but don't know how it is actually invoked...12:04
tuukkahi just run sailfish-maps12:04
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jjaone123tuukkah: ok lets try "LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF8 sailfish-maps" and see what happens.. ;)12:06
tuukkahok it's a bit picky, to get past the first page i need to start it as invoker --type=silica-qt5 -s /usr/bin/sailfish-maps12:11
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tuukkahthis still says yds: LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-8 invoker --type=silica-qt5 -s /usr/bin/sailfish-maps12:13
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jjaone123tuukkah: yes, noticed the same.. the env does not get passed to command that is invoked..12:15
zuhFWIW, looks like settings generates a locale environment at /var/lib/environment/nemo/locale.conf12:18
zuhTouching that in a wrong way is probably a good method of killing your UI though... :)12:18
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tuukkahit could be that by setting all correct envs, invoker wouldn't be needed12:19
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FryeNice to see someone else wants to see standard units on the maps app12:22
FryeAnd yet use the UI in english.12:22
jjaone123Frye: yep ;)12:23
FryeI've had a cellphone since 1998 and not once have I used them in Finnish12:23
PnuuI think I used the first one or two in finnish, but I've always had computers in english12:25
Pnuuand, well, these are more computers than phones nowadays.. :-D12:25
FryeI did try, but the translations were so horrible that it was within the first day that I switched. And yes compuetrs also always in english12:26
tuukkahen_DK gives you english with iso format datetime. i wonder what measurements it uses12:26
Pnuudanish english?-)12:27
tuukkahyeah =)12:27
Pnuuright..12:27
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leinirDanglish ;)12:27
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Pnuu"in Finland we have this thing called rally english"12:29
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leinirHehe, i like the Wikipedia article about Danglish just explains what it is... and then at the very end, "See also: The Julekalender" ;)12:30
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jjaone123So if put  en_DK.utf8  in /var/lib/environment/nemo/locale.conf  it should work (until reboot)12:31
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jjaone123No doesn't work, maps is still in device lan, and units stay in yards, even if locale.conf is edited :(12:40
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FryeWell it's a rough start for the maps app anyways. Hopefully it'll get better with the updates.12:40
tuukkahjjanvier, probably you'd need to restart the invoker12:40
tuukkahoops, jjaone12312:41
jjaone123Maybe it's the sailfishos-maps app that just does not repsect the LC env12:41
tuukkahthe first page (which works without the invoker) does change language based on env12:42
jjaone123If I type locale in term, I get this: LANG=en_US.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LANGUAGE=12:43
jjaone123LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"12:43
jjaone123LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_TIME=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_COLLATE=C12:43
jjaone123LC_MONETARY=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"12:43
jjaone123LC_PAPER=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_NAME=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_ADDRESS=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_TELEPHONE=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_IDENTIFICATION=fi_FI.UTF-812:43
jjaone123LC_ALL=12:43
jjaone123and still the sailfishos-maps started from GUI is in yards :(12:43
Stskeepsplease use pastie.org or other pastebins in future12:43
Stskeeps:P12:43
jjaone123stskeeps: ok, sorry12:43
tuukkahjjaone123, the sailfish-maps process started from the gui probably didn't pick up the env changes you made12:44
jjaone123tuukkah: right12:44
tuukkahdare to try rebooting?12:45
jjaone123tuukkah: ok12:47
tuukkahi tried to set all the same environment variables, but i'm still not getting past the first page without invoker12:47
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tuukkahvery soon after starting it says: [W] createDbConnection:53 - Could not create DB dir.12:50
jjaone123tuukkah: reboot did it ;) I have in locale.conf LANG=en_DK.utf8 and System UI, Mapsetc.  is in english but distances are in metric system :-)12:51
Pnuu:-)12:51
tuukkahjjaone123, very cool =)12:52
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tuukkahis there an faq or something where this should be put?12:52
jjaone123tuukkah: yeah, and survives reboot, but manully language cannot be changed in Settings after this..12:52
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jjaone123tuukkah: in term cd /var/lib/environment/nemo12:54
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Pnuulet's try12:56
Fryewohoo12:56
jjaone123tuukkah: "cp -p locale.conf locale.conf.orig" to save original and make new locale.conf with just one line "LANG=en_DK.utf8"  reboot and that's it..12:56
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Pnuunope, still in yards :-/12:57
Pnuuand did exactly that12:58
tuukkahnow i see the problem with the sailfish-maps process: it needs to be run with group "privileged" so that it can access /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Location/sailfish-maps.sqlite12:58
jjaone123Phuu: are you in terminal?12:58
Pnuujjaone123: yep, although I started the maps from the gui12:58
jjaone123Phuu: me too, from the GUI and it works.. What do you have in locale.conf ?12:59
Pnuuonly LANG=en_DK.utf812:59
jjaone123Phuu: and you rebooted?12:59
Pnuuyup12:59
Pnuuah!12:59
jjaone123Phuu: ok wait..13:00
PnuuI edited that file directly, and it is now owned by nemo.nemo13:00
Pnuuother files in that dir are root.root13:00
jjaone123Phuu: yes, so is mine, and it was nemo:nemo to begin with13:00
Pnuuok13:00
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Pnuuhmm, is the en_DK locale generated by default?13:04
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tuukkahanyone able to figure out how to launch the map process as nemo.privileged?13:10
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jjaone123Phuu: actually, forget "LANG=en_DK.utf8 "it's not that .. but in locale.conf you should have LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_NUMERIC both set to fi_FI.utf8 .. under the orginal LC=en_GB.utf8 and reboot .. ;)13:10
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Pnuujjaone123: ok, will try that :-)13:10
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jjaone123Phuu: did u get my private message13:12
Pnuujjaone123: no, maybe becaus it's pnuu, not phuu ;-)13:13
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tuukkahok, got the maps app running by chgrp privileged /usr/bin/sailfish-maps && chmod g+s /usr/bin/sailfish-maps13:20
tuukkahafter that, to get meters it's enough to run LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.utf8 sailfish-maps13:21
jjaone123tuukkah: ok great, I also got it working with adding to locale.conf with LC_NUMERIC=fi_FI.utf8 ja LC_MEASUREMENT=fi_FI.utf8 and reboot ;)13:22
jjaone123So we have two ways to run GUI in English but Maps etc. with metric system ;)13:23
tuukkahjjaone123, yours is a better permanent solution, but i wanted to be able to hack the process to run "normally"13:23
jjaone123tuukkah: Are you sure that the invoker does not do anything else useful for the system / apps?13:24
jjaone123tuukkah: Pnuu: It would optimal that Jolla System Settings GUI would enable user to set different LC-vars, so we didnät have to "hack" it thish way..13:27
PnuuI bet that will be available some time :-)13:28
jjaone123Pnuu: tuukkah: yeah, I think so too.. I'll blog to this JollaTides, where I have been blocking some Jolla stuff and tweet in #jolla and #sailfishos hashtags later today.. ;)13:29
jjaone123That was a cool session, thanks dev-sailors ;)13:31
Pnuu:-)13:31
tuukkahjjaone123, not sure at all, there may still be some issues13:31
Pnuuyay, python13:31
jjaone123Pnuu: what about python?13:32
PnuuI found the package :-D13:32
tuukkaha working en_DK locale option in the settings gui might also work for many users13:32
jjaone123Yeah, then it13:32
jjaone123is is just LANG=en_DK.utf813:33
jjaone123.. the problem being that Settings GUI cannot be used for Language changes, cause it over-writes this work-around..13:34
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atitihey hey13:45
atitiI recently found sailfish, is there a list of supported devices? :)13:45
Nicd-yes: Jolla13:45
Nicd-^ list of officially supported devices13:46
Nicd-it has been run on N9 and N950 too, unofficially13:46
jake9xxI've seen some youtube/twitter posts related to run it on various android hws13:56
jake9xxofficial list of supported devices:13:56
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jake9xxJolla13:56
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jake9xxend of official list13:56
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cvphello13:58
Pnuuhi13:58
cvpi arrive today my phone, but have some problems... i want to use my own xmpp server with different ports, how i can change the port from standard to my ?14:00
Stskeepscvp: you can probably try over in #jollamobile for community :)14:01
cvpah is it here SDK ?14:01
Stskeepsyeah mostly14:01
cvpkk14:02
tuukkahkaltsi, jake9xx, i was able to compile and install my own simple app based on the template. but harbour-wikipedia still doesn't compile. i get an error but i don't even see the header file: /usr/include/qt5/QtQuick/qquickview.h:52:7: error: forward declaration of ‘struct QQmlContext’14:02
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FryeAre there any guidelines for the cover action icons? I cannot find any from the design section of the web pages14:06
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artemmaIf you create simple instructions that work, I'll publish them14:08
artemmaand I can also be a good tester for whether instructions are simple as I am newbie in all things sb214:08
jake9xxartemma: I repro'd your yaml issue14:08
artemmamb214:08
artemmawhatever14:08
jake9xxartemma: the problem is that yaml parser in QtCreator does not dig the section 'SubProjects' and thus gives headache14:08
artemmajake9xx: no big trouble there, I guess .yaml updater just has no idea about subpackages14:09
artemma:)14:09
kaltsituukkah: and you have not modified any source code?14:09
tuukkahkaltsi, nope14:09
tuukkahkaltsi, did it compile for you?14:09
artemmajake9xx: I would also guess that QtC will try to modify formatting anyway (creating headache for VCS updates), but that's only a guess14:09
kaltsituukkah: I've not tried it.. doing other work :)14:10
jake9xxartemma: yes, most likely. I'll look at it tomorrow morning14:10
tuukkahkaltsi, ok, i'll continue to look14:10
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artemmaA switch for turn-this-updater-off-completely-I-am-not-a-newbie would be a good quickfix ;)14:11
jake9xxyes14:11
artemmajake9xx: A switch for turn-this-updater-off-completely-I-am-not-a-newbie would be a good quickfix ;)14:11
tuukkahartemma, yes, it also changes indentation but at least that you can just ignore14:11
artemmatuukkah, I can, git status cannot :)14:11
tuukkahartemma, add to .gitignore too =)14:11
artemmatuukkah, .yaml is quite a meaningful partof an app. I don't want to teach git scripts understand what's important there. And I like *MY* way of formatting most anyway14:12
tuukkahartemma, sure thing14:12
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tuukkahartemma, the compile error is on main.cpp lines 25-26 where you use rootContext() and it's about QQmlContext not being defined. if i add include for that in main.cpp, the errors disapper. makes sense?14:16
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artemmatuukkah: u mean in command line build only? Or from QtC too?14:16
tuukkahcommand like build only - that's the part that doesn't make sense to me14:16
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artemmatuukkah: yeah, you can add include.. but I would really like to understand why..14:19
tuukkahme too... kaltsi?14:19
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kaltsihow do you cmd line build?14:22
merlin1991I'm inclined to answer haxx14:23
kaltsiqtc adds some CONFIG+= when you build it from there14:23
tuukkahkaltsi, git clone, cd into repo, ./init.sh, then ssh into mersdk, thne mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl qmake && mb2 -t SailfishOS-armv7hl rpm14:23
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kaltsitry mb2 -t target qmake CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=declarative_debug CONFIG+=qml_debug14:24
kaltsior maybe even  mb2 -t target qmake -spec linux-g++-32 CONFIG+=debug CONFIG+=declarative_debug CONFIG+=qml_debug14:25
kaltsiif it makes a difference14:25
artemmaIMHO, ideal instruction would copy QtC way (as it's the official one), but would explain why/what happens there14:26
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kaltsithe main.cpp has #ifdef QT_QML_DEBUG #include <QtQuick> #endif so that will prob work14:26
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tuukkahi see, good to remember that debug build may be different14:27
artemmahmm, why does this include exist at all actually?14:27
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artemmaI think it remained from the default template14:27
kaltsiit is to enable qmldebugging14:27
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tuukkahkaltsi, still getting the same error if i leave the QQmlContext include out14:28
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kaltsido a make clean first?14:28
kaltsiand rm Makefile14:28
kaltsibut I'm sure you'll figure it out eventually14:29
tuukkahthose didn't do it, but thanks for the pointers, i'll continue to investigate14:29
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tuukkah(why command line compilation is important? so that the source can be built independent of qtquick quirks and automatically built on  build servers)14:31
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tuukkahand actually it's the same in qtcreator: if i change the build type to release instead of debug, i get the same compile errors14:39
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artemmaI would do a CI at least locally and for myself if automatic command line building was easy (and launchable from the host machine)14:42
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cosshould debugging be broken on latest sdk?14:49
cos"Unable to find dynamic linker breakpoint function."14:49
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cosalso the application output doesn't show anything14:53
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Skorpyhey, is it possible to make a photo picker thingy yet? so that I could send a photo to my own url.14:57
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tuukkahartemma, yay, got the rpms to build :-D15:00
artemmatuukkah, good!15:00
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whipplerhow am i supposed to load another cover when another page loads15:33
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cvpis there any nativ file explorer aviable ?16:26
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Pnuucvp: yes, jolla-fileman16:28
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cvpPnuu do i need this? "Host requires authentification" ?16:31
Pnuucvp: where did you get that?16:32
cvpSettings => Developer Mode => SSU on16:33
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leinirow... yeah, you just broke stuff16:33
leinirbe kind of good to hot have that SSU toggle in there ;)16:34
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cvpmy question is , if i need turn on SSU to get jolla-fileman ?16:36
Pnuucvp: I have it off16:36
cvpok16:36
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Pnuuif you have dev mode on, then open terminal and install from there: pkcon install jolla-fileman16:36
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cvpyeah i have it right now ;)16:45
cvpis there a list of all apps ?16:45
cvpover terminal16:45
Pnuupkcon get-packages > all_packages.txt and grep/read from there :-)16:47
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TumeezHi! :)16:57
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cvpcool thanks ;)17:03
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Acceany ideas how to best "save" a Page in QML? using states? doing something on onStatusChanged?17:13
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Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: found your problem about saving ?18:12
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: found your solution about saving problem ?18:12
AcceSfiet_Konstantin: not yet18:15
AcceI skipped it for now and did some other things18:15
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: what are you trying to do ?18:15
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: the best is use onStatusChanged indeed18:15
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AcceI want to have a menu, using silica components, from where I can start or resume game18:16
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: why a menu ?18:16
Acceso if I want to return to same state as it was when user goes back to menu18:16
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: in games, I would prefer a "normal gamed styled menu"18:16
Accehmm18:16
Sfiet_KonstantinAcce: I don't know the kind of game you are developing18:17
Sfiet_KonstantinI'm unsure about the UI that it should have18:17
Acceit's just practising QML for now, nothing serious18:17
AcceI guess I should try making that game styled menu then18:17
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FryeDoes anyone know if thee is a fix already for the following qml logs form emulator?18:53
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FryeHmm, how can I use journalctl to show the messages I'm missing form qtcreator19:07
FryeI get no output with that either19:07
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Sfiet_KonstantinFrye: as root systemctl -fa ?19:11
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FryeYeah, figured out that much. Is there a way to filter the output.19:12
FryeBased on the running app19:12
FryeThere is [MATCH] on the help page but I don't seem to get that bit19:12
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Fryeah good old grep works there19:14
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Sfiet_KonstantinFrye: grep is <319:14
Fryeyep it is19:15
Pnuumy ex-gf knows the basic usage of only one commandline tool, grep19:15
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pp_yay, first rpm built :D I suppose enabling nemo/mer repos on a jolla is risky? (I just wanted wget for now)19:21
YanielI don't think there will be much problems with mer stuff19:23
Yanielnemo seems a bit riskier19:24
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Morpog_PCI bet so Yaniel19:25
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Acceis there some maximum size for an Image element in QML?19:32
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ariselAhoi!19:33
AcceI was thinking of making a rather big background image, which I would show parts of19:33
Acceusing the clip property19:34
Stskeepsahoi arisel19:34
Yanieldoesn't seem so Acce19:34
Yanielbut you might want to set cache: false19:34
ariselI fail to manually set an apn for internet access over the sailfish UI, is there a nice place inside the filesystem, dbus, or whatever where i could manually set it? (I always get connection problems for a sim card which manages my calls fine, and also manages data fine inside any other handset).19:35
AcceOk, thanks Yaniel19:36
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Accehmm, well, looks like my 540x8000 image is not working, 540x2500 was fine though19:48
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Yanielmaybe whatever limitations opengl imposes?19:49
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Morpog_Mobile4000x4000 surely19:50
Yanielthat is platform dependent19:50
Yaniel4196x4196 would be possible19:50
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Yanieleven quite likely19:50
Yanieler, 4096x409619:51
ariselhmm.. anybody here who coudld help me debug with my connection problems? ;)20:01
VDVsx_arisel, lpotter might be able to help you, but probably only a bit later around20:02
ariselVDVsx_: still good to know. I'll then hang out a bit.20:02
VDVsx_arisel, why you can't save apn in the UI ? does not save or what ?20:03
ariselVDVsx_: i don't even find an option for that. just can search for a carrier, and that's all. Maybe I'm just too stupid to see a place where i could manually enter it.20:04
Accehmm I see20:04
VDVsx_arisel, settings->mobile network-> long presss in internet -> edit20:05
ariselVDVsx_: *tries to find that*20:07
ariselVDVsx_: let me set my phone to English.. I'm working with the German localization.. maybe there's a problem.20:07
ariselVDVsx_: I do not even have a point saying "Internet". ;) I'm having a jolla running sailfish, though :) .oO(at least i hope so :)20:11
arisel.oO(maybe the update went wrong?)20:13
VDVsx_arisel, so you have a SIm inside and you entered the pin code, if so go to Settings app20:13
ariselVDVsx_: am there..20:14
VDVsx_then system settings-> mobile network20:14
ariselVDVsx_: yepp.20:14
VDVsx_under mobile data you should see: internet20:14
VDVsx_with a glow light in the left20:14
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VDVsx_and two arrows in the right20:14
VDVsx_if you long press there context menu shows up20:15
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ariselVDVsx_: actually there it says "BILD Mobilportal" which is a German tabloid which i do not know what it does there.20:15
ariselVDVsx_: yay, but that's it :)20:15
ariselVDVsx_: ty a lot. I do not know wtf it's thinking to be a resold SIM of that tabloid.20:16
VDVsx_arisel, might be the name the apn gets from the server for whatever reason20:16
ariselVDVsx_: yeah, but inside any other device it gets the correct one (vodafone) including my linux laptops :)20:17
VDVsx_arisel, ooc was apn set at least ? correctly set ?20:17
ariselVDVsx_: it was set to access.vodafone.com which is vodafone, but wrong.20:18
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ariselVDVsx_: web.vodafone.de would be correct for German users.20:18
ariselVDVsx_: yay! now all is fine :)20:19
VDVsx_:)20:20
ariselVDVsx_: sorry for me being stupid, i just was totally out of mind due to that tabloid homepage name popping up, which i thought would be some forced start page by some incredible silly setting inside the SIM.20:20
ariselVDVsx_: apart from this I had fun linking my sd card inside my home so that i can write to it over usb. (Which works fine, btw, as long as you can live with M$-OSes reporting the "wrong" amount of free space ;) )20:22
ariselVDVsx_: ty a lot :)20:22
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VDVsx_arisel, np, I also got confused here, since "Internet" is the name of my apn :D so it varies from network to network20:24
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ariselVDVsx_: *g* i just wonder how that stupid tabloid internet provider hot on my sim ;)20:31
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TumeezChangelog new Jolla version?21:32
ln-verb?21:32
Tumeez1.0.1.1221:33
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Wntan update just appeared to my device too21:39
Yanieljust installed it21:39
WntSailfishOS 1.0.1.12 (Laadunjärvi)21:40
pp_yay21:40
pp_doing a rpm -qa diff :-)21:40
Stskeepsjust a minor update, to help with store issues people saw earlier21:40
Stskeepsbigger ones come later21:40
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phaeronWnt: did you get a notification for it ? or what ?21:41
Wntphaeron: yes, the device notified about an update while I was browsing the store21:42
phaeronok21:42
Wnthad to do the factory reset earlier today as all application downloads failed from store :(21:43
pp_hmn, some translation files went back in version numbers :P (not that it probably matters)21:43
Stskeepsinstall worked here too21:45
Yanielchangelogs?21:46
phaeronit was a small update test21:47
pp_* Mon Dec 16 2013 Bernd Wachter <bernd.wachter@jollamobile.com> - 0.38.821:47
pp_- [registration] Restore original domain on registration failure21:47
pp_- [ssu] Don't check credentials update time for store repo21:47
phaeronwill come again later21:47
pp_(assuming all changes are visible in rpm changelogs)21:48
Wnthmm. that update might have saved me from factory reseting the device...21:48
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Pnuushouldn't the lake change between each update?21:49
phaeronPnuu: it's a minor update21:49
Pnuubut, hey, we have surplus of lakes.. ;-D21:50
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ln-is this new update for those using beta repos?21:50
AardPnuu: it's a hotfix, not an update :p21:50
phaeronWnt: indeed21:51
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Wntnow I'm being prompted about an update again, but the version number seems to be lower than the one I'm currently running21:51
phaeronWnt: yes but don't downgrade21:51
PnuuAard: but I want a new lake :-D21:52
phaeronWnt: tomorrow morning it will be ok21:52
Wntphaeron: ok. What would happen if I downgrade?21:52
phaeronWnt: you might break store again :)21:52
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ariselfreedomrun: Ahoi! :)21:59
freedomrunhello arisel :)22:00
Accewhere does the sdcard get mounted?22:03
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Accenvm, found it!22:05
ariselAcce: /run/user/100000/media/sdcard but also symlinked to /sdcard :)22:05
ariselAcce: ;)22:05
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Wntshould the System settings -> Backup feature be able to backup and restore email, twitter etc. account info?22:21
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AcceWnt: I think it just saves your configurations22:24
Wntany idea where the account information is saved? I backed up the whole home directory before doing a factory reset22:25
Wntand now I would liuke to save some typing :)22:25
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valdur55maybe ~/.accounts ?22:26
Accesorry, no clues on that.. not sure what is stored in the home directory and what is not22:27
Wnt.config/signond/signon.db seems to have some data22:28
cvphave the xmpp account a standard server? cant connect to my own server !?22:29
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specialcvp: you can, but SSL certificates are validated by default, and the error handling is mostly missing22:30
cvphmm :( damn22:31
specialcvp: if you have developer mode, you can use "mc-tool list" to get the account name, and "mc-tool update gabble/jabber/jabber_xx bool:ignore-ssl-errors=true" (replacing _xx with the real name)22:31
specialotherwise you can give me your disapproval and I'll fix it when I get a chance ;)22:31
cvpdev mode is on ...  can you explain me step by step ?22:32
cvpi dont want use a android app for this :(22:32
specialssh in or open terminal22:32
cvpterminal22:33
specialdo you have more than one XMPP account set up?22:33
cvpno only one22:33
specialgood.22:33
specialrun 'mc-tool list'22:33
specialone of the lines will start with gabble/jabber/jabber_22:33
cvprun: command not found22:35
specialjust: mc-tool list22:36
cvpjabber_1222:36
cvpring/tel/account022:36
specialmc-tool update gabble/jabber/jabber_12 bool:ignore-ssl-errors=true22:37
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cvpok22:38
specialafter that, reconnecting (reboot, or set offline and back online in events view -> pulley 'show presence') should work22:39
cvphmm, but i dont need to put my server information?22:41
cvpor i put it on xmpp account like cvp@xxx.dyndns.org ?22:42
specialmmm22:42
specialtry it as-is first22:42
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cvpok i dont this befor... i delete my xmpp account and create a new one with dyndns informations.... with port information ? like : cvp@xxx.dyndns.org:xxxx ?22:44
specialno, just the usual login name you use22:44
specialif you need to specify the server manually, the command is: mc-tool update gabble/jabber/jabber_12 string:server=xxx.dyndns.org22:44
specialI filed a task about exposing some of these options in the XMPP account setup..22:44
cvpok than only username:cvp and password....22:45
cvpthan via terminal your command22:45
specialit should be cvp@something, whatever you would give as your jabber ID to someone else22:45
cvpmaybe somthing = debian, because this is the name from my server22:46
cvpmc-tool reconnected gabble/jabber/jjabber_1322:49
cvpHELL YEAH22:50
cvpit works now :D22:50
cvpyou my man :D22:50
specialawesome22:50
specialdoes the UI need anything other than server and "Ignore SSL errors"? Is configurable port useful?22:50
cvpi put this information on maemo.orgif its ok for you22:51
* special is not really sure what kind of abuse people do on their xmpp server setups22:51
specialplease do22:51
cvpa moment22:51
cvpone think22:51
cvpthing22:52
cvpthere will use the port 522222:52
cvpthe standard port... can i change this to ?22:52
specialyes, update gabble/jabber/jabber_13 uint:port=1234522:52
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cvpcool work, awsome :)22:55
cvpnext step: delete xabber android app :D22:55
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cvpok i wtrite it... think this will help some guys... :)23:14
cvpkiller feature was if we can transfer files over that :D23:15
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jjaone123Just received an system update to 1.0.1.12 , download started, installation and reboot.. no error messages.. and device is still at 1.0.1.10, anyone else..?23:16
cvpyeah me too :D23:16
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cvpoh no23:16
jjaone123cvp: upgrade went thru, but nothing happened?23:16
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cvpi habe the 1.12... but now i get a information, that 1.10 is now aviable :D23:17
cvpi have23:17
jjaone123you mean 1.0.1.1223:17
cvpyes23:17
jjaone123so in System settings > About product it tells you that you are on 1.0.1.1223:18
cvp1.0.1.12 is installed, but get a new message that 1.0.1.10 is aviable23:18
jjaone123cvp: oh23:18
cvpyes on system info is xxxx1.1223:18
jjaone123cvp: are you on WLan too23:18
cvpjap23:18
Yanieldon't downgrade, it should fix itself by the morning23:18
jjaone123same here Wifi update --> no effect, no errors23:19
cvpno no i dont want to downgrade :D23:19
YanielI upgraded on Wifi and everything went smoothly23:19
jjaone123Yaniel: good for you ;)23:19
jjaone123Yaniel: do you have dev-mode enabled?23:20
Yanielyes23:20
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Yanielactually it advertises an update to me as well23:20
cvpbatterie gies so fast down :(23:21
cvpgoes23:21
jjaone123ok, me too.. I thought that migt have been the reason, why it did not succeed here23:21
jjaone123update to what?23:21
Yaniel1.0.1.1023:22
jjaone123oh?23:22
cvpuse someone a sdcard ? and can find this in jolla-fileman ? cant find my sdcard, but in galarie i see all the pictures on it23:22
jjaone123this is strange23:22
Yanielie. the downgrade cvp is seeing as well23:22
Yanielcvp: /run/user/100000/media/sdcard is where I find mine in terminal23:22
jjaone123ok, I just saw upgrade once.. now nothing..23:22
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Yanieland system info shows .10?23:23
Yanieltry rebooting23:23
jjaone123Yaniel: yes 1.0.1.10 and "pkcon get-updates" shows nothing.. and "cat /etc/sailfish-release" shows 1.0.1.1023:24
cvpcool thanks :D23:24
jjaone123Yaniel: I did, twice, even took battery off :P23:24
Yanieloh and what did you update from?23:24
jjaone1231.0.1.10, then notification came to 1.0.1.12, started it, it went thru but did not change anything23:25
jjaone123Is there any info anywhere abt the ChangeLog of this upgrade 1.0.1.10 -> 1.0.1.12 (probably only a bug fix..)?23:27
stephgjjaone123: it's in the sailfish mailing list23:28
stephgbut my google is failing me right now23:28
jjaone123ok, gotta check that.. thanks23:28
stephgthe subject is: [SailfishDevel] [update] Hotfix to update1 (1.0.1.10 -> 1.0.1.12)23:28
cvpmailing app... can receive mails but not sending :/23:28
cvpsmtp are correct, ports too.... maybe a bug for pop3 accounts23:29
stephgcvp: ick, who uses pop3 anymore ;)23:29
cvp?23:30
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jjaone123stephg: yes found that entry in dev mailing list..23:32
cvpin all in one, is sailfish very interessting... now with own xmpp server better :D ... but jolla need some time to makes all rounder :)23:33
jjaone123problem is mine did not get hotfixed, according to system info..23:33
stephgcvp give them time :)23:33
specialjjaone123: it will be tomorrow23:34
cvpof course ;)23:34
jjaone123yes, no worries.. ;)23:34
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cvphope only that you guys and the community will bring nativ apps... really dont want use android apps23:34
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jjaone123it's just that .. this same happened when upgrade from 1.0.0.5 to 1.0.1.10 came a week ago :)23:35
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cvpso time to sleep for me .... good night fiends :)23:36
stephggnight!23:36
jjaone123cvp: good night.. and all the rest too :-)23:36
cvpspecial ... thanks again :)23:36
specialnp23:36
jjaone123special good night, then ;)23:37
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TumeezHow I can delete 1.0.1.12 update?23:46
stephgTumeez why do you want to?23:47
Tumeezstephg Because it is cancelled?23:48
stephgwhy do you think it's cancelled?23:48
stephgTumeez: http://www.marshut.com/iixynv/hotfix-to-update1-1-1-10-1-1-12.html23:50
TumeezBecause my phone offer "update" to back 1.0.1.1023:52
Yanieljust wait, it should go away by itself soon23:52
stephgwhat Yaniel said23:52
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