| DarkSim | From now on I will stick to Qualcomm | 00:01 |
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| DarkSim | Getting real tired from your shit Nvidia lol | 00:01 |
| ShadowJK | 50C shutdown? what kind of pos silicon is that? :) | 00:01 |
| DarkSim | well something like 55 | 00:02 |
| DarkSim | I'm not sure if my Clock/Heat widget catches it properly | 00:02 |
| DarkSim | but it gets glowing hot | 00:02 |
| DarkSim | you can almost burn yourself on it | 00:02 |
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| Hurrian | ShadowJK: Tegra :P | 00:04 |
| ShadowJK | I've never managed to stress my tegra3 tablet that much | 00:04 |
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| ShadowJK | can't see how to do it, everything stops when I switch to another app lol | 00:05 |
| Hurrian | Anyone owning a Tegra 2 tablet knows not to buy Tegra again ;) | 00:05 |
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| ShadowJK | It would be fine really, if the emmc wasn't so damn slow | 00:07 |
| ShadowJK | it spends most of the time waiting on I/O instead of burning CPU :) | 00:07 |
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| DarkSim | so a Nexus 4 with a slight bump damage in one corner (no cracks or any scratches in general) | 00:09 |
| DarkSim | for 115 USD | 00:09 |
| DarkSim | Good first future Sailfish phone? | 00:09 |
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| ShadowJK | Well.. | 00:10 |
| ShadowJK | Reviewers are singing praises about Moto G being "equal" or better than N4, but at landfill price .. dunno about hackability though. | 00:11 |
| DarkSim | Time to base myself on one review from Google Search | 00:14 |
| DarkSim | "If you already have a Nexus 4, the Moto G is in no way and upgrade from your current device" | 00:14 |
| DarkSim | Done | 00:14 |
| DarkSim | Only thing that bugs me is battery life, every since I've gotten a smartphone, battery is really the thing I've sacrificed the most | 00:15 |
| DarkSim | from several days if not a whole week to barely a day | 00:15 |
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| ShadowJK | batterylife has gone up for me | 00:19 |
| ShadowJK | irc on not-smatphone lasted barely 4 hours :) | 00:19 |
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| ShadowJK | The initial proposition that reviewer makes, is kinda weird. If you already have a Nexus4, which seems to costs €399 new still, a €250 Moto G is likely to not be a terribly big upgrade, if at all. | 00:22 |
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| ShadowJK | And if you've got €399 to spare, get Jolla ;-) | 00:23 |
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| Cage10 | hey guys, quick question (I think) - why could PullDownMenu and PushUpMenu not work in SilicaGridView? https://pastee.org/6hx3d | 00:57 |
| Cage10 | grid's parent is a Page, and it has a Component sibling for a delegate | 00:58 |
| Cage10 | the screen fades out a little, if I touch in any way the screen | 01:00 |
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| kulve | thp: I've still been using the command line sharing plugin on my n950 quite frequently and now I need to same for my new phone :) Do you happen to have any pointers to docs or even examples about the new plugin system? | 06:22 |
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| fk_lx | kulve: look at nemo-qml-plugin-* here: https://github.com/nemomobile | 06:43 |
| fk_lx | kulve: at least theses are qml plugins that are supported in Nemo and Sailfish, so look if you can find the one you need (no idea if it's there) | 06:44 |
| tortoisedoc | kulve : you talking about the sharing plugin? | 06:48 |
| tortoisedoc | thp : is it correct the transfer-engine is not finalized in the alpha sdk yet? | 06:50 |
| fk_lx | kulve: it might be it what you are looking for - https://github.com/nemomobile/qml-share-enablers | 06:51 |
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| fk_lx | kulve: ah, it's rather not it - there is import of Qt 4.7 in it | 06:55 |
| kulve | tortoisedoc: yeah | 06:57 |
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| tortoisedoc | huh | 07:16 |
| tortoisedoc | adding MimeType to .desktops pointing at apk packages drops the link from the homescreen | 07:16 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm even removing it does not bring them back.. :| | 07:17 |
| tortoisedoc | edited .desktop file in /usr/share/applications btw | 07:17 |
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| tortoisedoc | kulve : you might want to look into transfer-engine | 07:23 |
| tortoisedoc | for the plugin | 07:23 |
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| tortoisedoc | but at least I could not get anywhere far; plugin I made is not being correctly used (placed next to bluetooth one) | 07:23 |
| tortoisedoc | any help is appreciated :| | 07:25 |
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| |thunder | hi all. is the sailfish SDK what I need to install on debian to run the OS on my desktop to play with it? | 07:26 |
| tbr | yes, although the emulator has no apps in it | 07:27 |
| tbr | unless you download some, compile them and run them | 07:27 |
| |thunder | well, that's unfortunate | 07:28 |
| |thunder | what's the cheapest mobile device you know of that will run it without lag? | 07:29 |
| tbr | currently there is only the Jolla phone | 07:29 |
| |thunder | can my nokia n800 run it? lol | 07:29 |
| |thunder | ohh... | 07:29 |
| tbr | the N9 sort of runs it, but is not optimal | 07:29 |
| |thunder | i imagine the n9 screen is too narrow | 07:29 |
| |thunder | ok, well, thanks for answering my questions. I wanted to check it out hands-on. I love the way old nokia stuff was designed. maemo, meego, etc. | 07:30 |
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| thp | kulve: haven't played with sharing plugins yet, would have to ask | 07:33 |
| kulve | thp: well, if you bump into anything let me know :) | 07:33 |
| thp | kulve: will do | 07:34 |
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| newin | hey all | 07:47 |
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| stephg | morning! | 07:49 |
| tortoisedoc | hey newin | 07:50 |
| fk_lx | morning ;-) | 07:51 |
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| DarkFox | Hello world - I've finally returned and just wondering if there is any schedule / expected date or time-range for when sailfish will be downloadable and flashable for different devices? Personally, I'd love to try it out on my xperia. | 08:17 |
| DarkFox | I only see the SDK around - no actural builds for testing in say... qemu ? | 08:17 |
| Nicd- | nothing public yet | 08:18 |
| DarkFox | Nicd-: Didn't think so - so just as last time, mir + nemo? | 08:19 |
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| Stskeeps | DarkFox: which xperia? | 08:19 |
| DarkFox | Stskeeps: I'd love to tell you but I can't recall... Also, 2nd hand from my dad :P | 08:20 |
| * DarkFox checks if it's said inside. | 08:20 | |
| jussi | mer+ nemo maybe dont think anyone is doing mir + nemo :D | 08:20 |
| DarkFox | Hehe | 08:20 |
| DarkFox | What sailfish used to be haha | 08:20 |
| jussi | mir + nemo, perfect way to start a flame war! :P | 08:21 |
| DarkFox | Stskeeps: mt27i | 08:21 |
| DarkFox | Whatever that is :P | 08:21 |
| Stskeeps | DarkFox: no promises on that one, it's ICS based | 08:21 |
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| DarkFox | ICS? | 08:22 |
| tachikoma | ice crean sandwich? | 08:22 |
| tachikoma | cream | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | ice cream sandwich, android version | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | also, urgh, u8500 | 08:22 |
| DarkFox | Oh | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:22 |
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| DarkFox | Yea ICS indeed | 08:23 |
| * DarkFox wants his N900 to run sailfishos | 08:23 | |
| Nicd- | umm | 08:23 |
| Nicd- | DarkFox: did you mean mer + nemo? | 08:23 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: that be awesome, but i guess thats out of scope | 08:23 |
| tachikoma | i have mer/nemo on my n900, but it's not really ready for day to day use | 08:24 |
| tachikoma | maemo does work so much better still | 08:24 |
| DarkFox | Nicd-: Whatever it is | 08:24 |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: My N900s flash is kinda dead :/ | 08:24 |
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| |thunder | tachikoma, make it run on my n800 too ;) | 08:24 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: flash dead - wow | 08:25 |
| DarkFox | And the micro-usb port is disconnected and the screws to open it (2 problematic) are butchered. | 08:25 |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: Lots of read-writes | 08:25 |
| tachikoma | |thunder: i think mer originated from n800, at least back then was the first time i heard about that | 08:25 |
| DarkFox | AKA. Using that 32G flash for an encrypted backup of entire desktop :D | 08:25 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: interesting, i do use mine also since the first day it was available andit doe still work fine. | 08:25 |
| DarkFox | Write much to it? | 08:26 |
| tachikoma | wwhat would be the effects if you have a worn out flash? | 08:26 |
| * DarkFox got his 2nd hand off eBay for $120 | 08:26 | |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: Slower mostly | 08:26 |
| tachikoma | yeah, i wrote a lot to it, used it as computer the whole time | 08:26 |
| DarkFox | reflash was no difference compared to how it used to be. | 08:27 |
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| * DarkFox makes note that he is sure someone will laugh at... | 08:27 | |
| * tachikoma has his second n900 still packaged in the basement | 08:27 | |
| * DarkFox bought a pair of batteries and a charger from Hong Kong for the N900 when the charging port died. | 08:27 | |
| DarkFox | The charger burnt out within the day | 08:27 |
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| * DarkFox now uses the N95 to charge the N900 batteries :D | 08:28 | |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: Packaged and never opened? | 08:28 |
| tachikoma | no, I did open it once to check everything is inside | 08:29 |
| tachikoma | the time when usb ports fell off, needed some backup device | 08:29 |
| DarkFox | Yea | 08:29 |
| DarkFox | Fair enough | 08:29 |
| tachikoma | i never intended it to keep it for so long, but my first one never broke, so ... | 08:29 |
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| DarkFox | tachikoma: You don't need a usb charger when you have a N95 :P | 08:29 |
| tachikoma | i never had n95 | 08:30 |
| tachikoma | so, not sure what you mean | 08:30 |
| * DarkFox has one and it is damn loud | 08:30 | |
| DarkFox | N95 is a bit older than the N900, symbian and its battery is smaller than the N900s. But the N900 battery "fits" while hanging out of the device - charges to ~75% | 08:31 |
| * DarkFox may or may have not booted the two phones off the same battery at once :3 | 08:32 | |
| DarkFox | One battery = two phones at once :D | 08:32 |
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| * DarkFox when he finally has sailfish working on a phone will start hacking at the UI and maybe consider forking for a BSD alternative :-) | 08:34 | |
| * DarkFox hopes the license would be usable for that... | 08:34 | |
| DarkFox | If not I at least hope that the interesting components would be easily portable enough to a microbsd. | 08:36 |
| tachikoma | i see, ok, ihav e had an external charger since years for that | 08:38 |
| tachikoma | the ui is closed source afaik | 08:39 |
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| sharpneli | The UI is closed by Jolla and the device drivers are closed by Qualcomm. Rest is free. | 08:40 |
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| tachikoma | yes, thats how i understand it | 08:41 |
| tachikoma | sharpneli: is there a list of the device drivers that are closed? | 08:41 |
| tachikoma | i know that e.g. for the gpu is a open source driver in the kernel already, i wonder what else could be replaced to have a truely open phone (that is of course without the radio device) | 08:42 |
| Stskeeps | tachikoma: too much :/ | 08:43 |
| Stskeeps | but if you let go of the thought of hw adaptation having to be open, you can get pretty close on ui/core side | 08:43 |
| sharpneli | I don't really mind closed drivers myself. Drivers are not usable without the HW and the HW itself is closed anyway. | 08:43 |
| sharpneli | The only thing I mind is douchebag vendors who do things like forbid Android of sharing factory images because they have their drivers in them :D | 08:44 |
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| tachikoma | Stskeeps: I'm not an evangelist, for me this is more academical | 08:46 |
| tachikoma | 'could it be completely open, or how much open can it be" | 08:47 |
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| DarkFox | tachikoma, sharpneli: closed or not I'll be hacking at the UI :P | 08:48 |
| tachikoma | sharpneli: really, that happens? why should the do that if their driverrs are binary only and most likely only work with the android kernel anyway | 08:48 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: sure, go ahead, I don;t rally care about the ui - I'd get the phone if it would run fvwm2 ... | 08:49 |
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| sharpneli | tachikoma: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/new-nexus-7-factory-images-not-available-jbq-leaves-aosp/ | 08:49 |
| sharpneli | tachikoma: The nexus 7 images are now available. But it took some decent amount of time of Google bashing Qualcomm about it | 08:49 |
| * DarkFox wants Sony/AMDs drivers for the FreeBSD PlayStation4 | 08:50 | |
| tachikoma | wow, the nexus itself is affected by that stupidity, amazing | 08:50 |
| vatral | say, is there a way to install this on a N9? I understand it's not officially supported, but did anybody make an image for it? | 08:50 |
| sharpneli | tachikoma: And funnily enough one can still get the drivers via adb pull :D | 08:50 |
| sharpneli | Just some lawyers at Qualcomm going in overdrive | 08:50 |
| tachikoma | sharpneli: of course | 08:50 |
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| tachikoma | i would bet such decisions are done by people with 0 technical expertise | 08:51 |
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| * DarkFox imagines encrypted bsd xperia running with sailfish BSD :P | 08:53 | |
| tachikoma | thats what i hate about android | 08:53 |
| tachikoma | so much stuff from shady sources, in some forumpost or half legal stuff doen by end users... | 08:53 |
| * DarkFox drules | 08:53 | |
| tachikoma | i actually wondered how jolla wants to achieve that you can install sailfishos on other devices | 08:54 |
| tachikoma | aren't those all slighly different hardware wise and thus suffer from river issues with other kernels? | 08:55 |
| tabasko | tachikoma: simple, just buy installation dvd:s from your local computer store and enjoy | 08:55 |
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| DarkFox | tachikoma: Casually plug in a portable dvd drive to your phone? | 08:55 |
| tachikoma | eh - are we living in different universes? ;) | 08:56 |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: The problem is ARM is so different between devices | 08:56 |
| tabasko | and insert 24 char cd-key | 08:56 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: thats what i mean | 08:56 |
| DarkFox | Due to SoCs being so unstandardized. | 08:56 |
| DarkFox | "SoC"s | 08:56 |
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| tachikoma | you have all in the soc and the soc are heavily customized | 08:56 |
| DarkFox | SoC unification in Linux was a project - not sure for how far they went. | 08:56 |
| tachikoma | reality point to "not very far" ;) | 08:57 |
| tachikoma | points | 08:57 |
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| DarkFox | No doubt not far :P | 08:57 |
| DarkFox | Too much work | 08:57 |
| DarkFox | Too many chips | 08:57 |
| DarkFox | Too ineffeciant | 08:58 |
| DarkFox | And with intel making x86_64 chips use as little power as ARM devices, is arm going down? | 08:58 |
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| DarkFox | I hope not | 08:58 |
| tachikoma | I'm still waiting for those intel chips | 08:58 |
| DarkFox | But if the SoC manufactures don't step up the game and unify their crap, that's what will probally happen. | 08:59 |
| tachikoma | I doubt it | 08:59 |
| DarkFox | http://www.shapeshifter.se/articles/freebsd_gprs3g/ << This person seems to have been having some fun | 08:59 |
| tachikoma | as long as android works on them nothings gonna change | 08:59 |
| DarkFox | Android barely works haha | 08:59 |
| DarkFox | Yay version released!!!? | 09:00 |
| tachikoma | most users tend to differ | 09:00 |
| DarkFox | Nay version hasn't been modded by manufacture! D: | 09:00 |
| DarkFox | Yay mod was created. | 09:00 |
| sremes | so wjat | 09:00 |
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| DarkFox | Nay it killed my mic, and camera! D: | 09:00 |
| tachikoma | the only relevant thing in this market is - what are end users gonna buy. | 09:00 |
| DarkFox | ^ Experience with a droid I have. | 09:00 |
| sremes | so what is the process of adding new software to Jolla store, I assume people are submitting stuff to harbour, when does their apps appear in store? | 09:01 |
| tachikoma | and the numbers say that they buy android | 09:01 |
| * DarkFox wonders how well android / jolla apps will co-exist without too much conflict. API / design standards are very different. | 09:01 | |
| tachikoma | so it is "ggood enough" obviously. This could of course change, when it gets worse or something better comes along | 09:01 |
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| DarkFox | It'll throw around the unification of the jolla unified UI. | 09:01 |
| tachikoma | why the heck am i'm following neil gaiman on twitter ... | 09:02 |
| * DarkFox feels like unifying every sentence to include unified or any deriviate for unifyication to make this conversation more unified. | 09:02 | |
| DarkFox | s/unified./unifibale/ | 09:03 |
| DarkFox | damn typos | 09:03 |
| DarkFox | Screw it | 09:03 |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: Why the heck is my twitter not authenticating for bitlbee :( | 09:03 |
| DarkFox | Better question | 09:03 |
| tachikoma | the answer might be the same as to my question: | 09:04 |
| tachikoma | "I have not the slightest idea" | 09:04 |
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| DarkFox | :C | 09:05 |
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| DarkFox | :3 | 09:05 |
| DarkFox | Sorry /topic :3 | 09:05 |
| DarkFox | Acturally, quite ontopic. :O | 09:05 |
| DarkFox | tachikoma: Think it would be at all dificult to get a BSD phone, encrypted zfs root and to jail the GSM module... To then run TOR and get a nice big battery? :D | 09:07 |
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| artemma | I just realized that my Helloworld Pro was marked as Approved yesterday, not Published in harbour. How long does it take to get from Approved to Published? | 09:10 |
| DarkFox | "Helloworld Pro" ? | 09:10 |
| tachikoma | DarkFox: well, I'd go with the neo freerunner phone for that - or what it is called | 09:10 |
| DarkFox | Ohai openmoko lives | 09:11 |
| DarkFox | Or this still the old device? :P | 09:11 |
| * DarkFox would rather have something a bit more stylish than that ugly hting :P | 09:12 | |
| DarkFox | thing * | 09:12 |
| tachikoma | or - you could build one by tour own. Get some calypso chip based motorola, and some small single board computer, then install bsd on the sbc and just connect the motorola and use it as radio interface with osmocombb | 09:12 |
| DarkFox | Hehehe | 09:12 |
| tachikoma | thats the only way i can imaging to get really completely open phone, I don't know any baseband processor beside the calypso one that runs with oepn source software | 09:13 |
| artemma | DarkFox: template/wizard of a proper project that gets you all the real proper structures and is guaranteed to be good enough for passing through Harbour checks - https://github.com/amarchen/helloworld-pro-sailfish | 09:13 |
| DarkFox | I'd rather pull apart my motoroler and rm windows on it | 09:13 |
| tachikoma | calypso is 2g only though | 09:13 |
| DarkFox | motorola * | 09:13 |
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| * DarkFox 's motorola has a little mouse thingy on it O_o | 09:13 | |
| tachikoma | well, that will still not open it's radio interface to open source software :( | 09:13 |
| DarkFox | Open ♥ | 09:14 |
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| TheBootroo | DarkFox: dafuq are you sayin duh ? i didn't understand a single message you posted... | 09:14 |
| * tachikoma has two calypso based phones laying on his table right now ;) | 09:15 | |
| DarkFox | TheBootroo: From where onwards? | 09:15 |
| DarkFox | lol | 09:15 |
| TheBootroo | well in fact i understand some of them but putting all together doesn't makes any sense O.o | 09:15 |
| * DarkFox isn't drunk - just tired, may have been related to making unreadable messages. | 09:15 | |
| tachikoma | https://opensource.srlabs.de/projects/catcher/wiki is such an awesome app ;) | 09:15 |
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| TheBootroo | DarkFox: go sleep ! (or drink ;-) ) | 09:16 |
| tachikoma | the catcher catcher :) | 09:16 |
| DarkFox | TheBootroo: Esentially, I'd love to have a BSD phone, encrypted and with at least 64G internal flash (SD card for root maybe?) and for it to have a decent UI like sailfish. | 09:16 |
| DarkFox | Obviously very different though. Ideally, something useful for low power - but high capability. | 09:17 |
| TheBootroo | DarkFox: just work on BSD kernel port for sailfish, and buy 64GB µSD | 09:17 |
| DarkFox | TheBootroo: Tempted to start that in fact | 09:17 |
| zuh | Maybe time to check the topic of discussions at this point? :) | 09:17 |
| tachikoma | zuh: true | 09:18 |
| * tachikoma shuts up | 09:18 | |
| DarkFox | zuh: Nah still sailfish / mobile / innovation | 09:18 |
| DarkFox | /ideas to implement into sailfish | 09:18 |
| osso__ | DarkFox: yeah, go ahead and write all the needed drivers from scratch :-) | 09:18 |
| DarkFox | osso__: Too many :C | 09:18 |
| * DarkFox wonders why his motorola A3100 even has a mouse - all while having a touchscreen | 09:19 | |
| DarkFox | Well, I think it was touch | 09:19 |
| DarkFox | Maybe not... | 09:19 |
| DarkFox | It's windows crap but still ... CHARGE SO I CAN START IT UP D: | 09:19 |
| DarkFox | 20:15:59 TheBootroo | DarkFox: go sleep ! (or drink ;-) ) | 09:19 |
| DarkFox | TheBootroo: Sleeping sounds good | 09:19 |
| DarkFox | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_A3100 << I wonder how well anything decent would run on this. | 09:20 |
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| maaarghk | hey guys, just trying to understand, is sailfish like a "competitor" to the likes of tizen? | 10:38 |
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| Stskeeps | maaarghk: well, we're shipping | 10:39 |
| leinir | and it's not a camera ;) | 10:39 |
| tachikoma | don;t say that! | 10:39 |
| maaarghk | indeed. i remember reading tizen's website and not being sure what was going on... it had a page about why linux was good and not much else. | 10:40 |
| tachikoma | Stskeeps: the fun in these channels will be gone if people get actual information about shipping ;) | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | leinir: now that's just mean ;( | 10:40 |
| tachikoma | and no, i do not mean that seriously | 10:40 |
| leinir | but also, tizen is pretty much run by a single company, and specifically one which doesn't get the idea of community | 10:40 |
| maaarghk | so, right, the answer to my question is like "there is no competition" | 10:41 |
| tachikoma | i have trouble understanding what tizen really is, i tried get the sdk running but quickly lost interest | 10:41 |
| tachikoma | maaarghk: there is a nice showdown of the open mobile os systems video by nixie pixel | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | maaarghk: did you see our launch video? | 10:41 |
| maaarghk | Stskeeps: only just heard about the project - and in the office at work sooooo... | 10:41 |
| TheBootroo | Stskeeps: srsly, are you 'REALLY' shipping ? | 10:42 |
| maaarghk | basically what i'm saying is no haha. | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | maaarghk: meh, well, mute sound and pretend you're working: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfAixpkzcBQ | 10:42 |
| tachikoma | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kUNMbuPw_Q | 10:42 |
| tachikoma | sailfishos wins btw | 10:42 |
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| maaarghk | if it makes sense on mute sound then ill do that | 10:42 |
| tachikoma | she also looked in detail in the four systems in other videos, but i find it hard to watch too much from her | 10:42 |
| maaarghk | she looks scary like a girl i used to know. | 10:43 |
| maaarghk | watching launch vid. | 10:43 |
| tachikoma | she is over the top nerdy | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | TheBootroo: well, people have it in their hands | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | TheBootroo: that qualifies as having shipped | 10:43 |
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| TheBootroo | well, a few people, who aren't me, so i don't care, it's still unicorn phone to me | 10:43 |
| maaarghk | that's very pretty | 10:44 |
| tachikoma | Stskeeps: why do you make me relaod that damned shop page every five minutes again! why??? | 10:44 |
| TheBootroo | until i hold the precious by myself | 10:44 |
| tachikoma | ;) | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | maaarghk: and that experience is in people's hands today | 10:44 |
| maaarghk | what are my chances of getting i working on my old nexus 4 ? | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, fairly high, but not yet | 10:44 |
| TheBootroo | tachikoma: i reload à 0.10 FPS !! | 10:44 |
| maaarghk | Stskeeps: not lookng for a zip to flash here, i mean, is that under community development? | 10:44 |
| tbr | yes | 10:44 |
| tbr | I did some work on a Nexus4 kernel once | 10:45 |
| tachikoma | so, according to that nerdy girl, there are 4 more or less open systems currently around, firefoxos, tizen, ubuntu mobile and sailfishos | 10:45 |
| maaarghk | tbr: how far did you get? | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | firefoxos and sailfishos are shipping in devices | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, tizen too, but in a camera | 10:45 |
| tbr | maaarghk: kernel built, but didn't boot, IIRC there was some checksum or other postprocessing missing. I know other people got that bit to work | 10:46 |
| maaarghk | cool. is there like a forum or something ro just a mailing list? | 10:46 |
| tbr | there is #nemomobile here on IRC as Nemo is the initial step before Sailfish | 10:47 |
| maaarghk | i seeeeee. | 10:48 |
| tachikoma | Stskeeps: yes, thats why sailfishos won her little copmpetition video | 10:48 |
| tachikoma | its works and ships and does not look like it escaped from the nineties | 10:49 |
| maaarghk | interesting. does it necessarily have to be for mobile? what about a decent desktop linux distro?! you never know 2014 YEAR OF LINUX DESKTOP | 10:49 |
| Wnt | How long does it take for an application to update to the store after it has been approved by the QA process? | 10:50 |
| TheBootroo | Wnt: i'm asking the same question ! | 10:51 |
| maaarghk | oh I just saw jolla.com it all makes a bit more sense suddenly, hah | 10:53 |
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| tortoisedoc | hah | 10:57 |
| tortoisedoc | Cyanogenmod has a quickbar :D | 10:57 |
| tortoisedoc | Cyanogenmod has a quickbar :D | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | can you say that again? | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | didn't quite catch it | 10:57 |
| TheBootroo | Nicd-: Cyanogenmod has a quickbar ? | 10:58 |
| maaarghk | he said that CM has a quickbar | 10:58 |
| TheBootroo | Cyanogenmod has a quickbar ! | 10:58 |
| w00t | first meme of #sailfishos? :p | 10:58 |
| * TheBootroo doesn't care about CM | 10:58 | |
| Nicd- | what does cyanogenmod have? | 10:58 |
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| TheBootroo | Nicd-: A QUICKBAR | 10:58 |
| Nicd- | a quickbar what? | 10:58 |
| TheBootroo | " /D " | 10:58 |
| TheBootroo | " :D " | 10:58 |
| TheBootroo | quick bar of kitkat maybe | 10:59 |
| * tbr doesn't care for industrial nestle crap | 11:07 | |
| w00t | tbr: more of a seafood fan? ;) | 11:08 |
| tbr | frutti di mare! nomnomnom | 11:08 |
| MFaro-Tusino | qwazix: Will you be porting pcam? | 11:09 |
| * tbr caught his fish fresh, himself, in helsinki ;) | 11:09 | |
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| maaarghk | i tried that once but i suck. went camping with my girlfriend and her dad (!!!) and he was catching loads of mackerel and cooking it on a BBQ | 11:19 |
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| maaarghk | some dutch people were very impressed with this and swapped us a fish for some AWESOME dried sausage or some other dutch thing like that | 11:20 |
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| qwazix | MFaro-Tusino, as far as I know no fcam yet on mer :-(, otherwise, by all means | 11:31 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | Okay - fingers crossed qwazix - having RAW support was my favourite, no other phone (until the Lumia 1520 and 1020 after the latest wp update) has had it | 11:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I miss it | 11:33 |
| qwazix | N900 had it too :P | 11:36 |
| tachikoma | n900 still has it :) | 11:38 |
| Nicd- | N900 RAWs were huge | 11:39 |
| Nicd- | my DSLR RAWs are half the size :P | 11:39 |
| flux | maybe they were (losslessly) compressed but n900 raws were not?-) (I don't know, just guessing) | 11:39 |
| Nicd- | I guess so | 11:40 |
| tachikoma | n900 was really just what came from the sensor, no postproc at all afaik | 11:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I never was lucky enough to get an N900 (been looking though) | 11:40 |
| tachikoma | but it's some time ago i rwead up on that | 11:40 |
| MFaro-Tusino | I upgraded my plan to the 5800, three weeks later, N900 released, when I could upgrade, it was no longer sold in Australia, so bought the N8 | 11:41 |
| tachikoma | MFaro-Tusino: you could just buy them in shops | 11:41 |
| tachikoma | MFaro-Tusino: ah, ok i see | 11:41 |
| MFaro-Tusino | tachimoka: I was about 15 at the time, so I didn't have the money to buy it outright initially after I went on contract | 11:41 |
| tachikoma | yeah, i belive that | 11:44 |
| tachikoma | i had n800 and was so happy with it, as soon as i heard there will be n900 i put money to the side for that | 11:45 |
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| tachikoma | n800 + e65 was an awesome combination back then | 11:45 |
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| MFaro-Tusino | I still use N950 fairly regularly | 11:49 |
| MFaro-Tusino | N950 + Lumia 925 has been a good combo (lately its been Z30 + 925 though) | 11:50 |
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| Stskeeps | qwazix: there's a lot of unexplored camera functionality possible to link with, at least | 12:02 |
| Stskeeps | but it'd risk being fairly hw specific | 12:02 |
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| Yaniel | a | 12:14 |
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| tortoisedoc | hmm | 12:27 |
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| tortoisedoc | are the icons on the lockscreen (sms, fb notification, call, download etc) | 12:28 |
| tortoisedoc | supposed to be navigable? | 12:28 |
| tbr | you can push up from the bottom to get to the feed view | 12:28 |
| tortoisedoc | oho | 12:29 |
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| tbr | tortoisedoc: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLOQTO8Q4Os&list=UUgK45xp5j9vJMJ3odffESjA | 12:32 |
| tbr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9YGtW274GI&list=UUgK45xp5j9vJMJ3odffESjA | 12:32 |
| tbr | the latter shows how those fit together | 12:32 |
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| tortoisedoc | tbr : thanks | 12:49 |
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| qwazix | Stskeeps, :nod: | 13:13 |
| qwazix | in fact that's what fcam tried to do, be the abstraction layer between hw and developer | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 13:14 |
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| gyeben | hi | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 13:19 |
| gyeben | Is it / will it be possible to run Sailfish OS on a Raspberry Pi? | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | no, sadly not | 13:21 |
| Stskeeps | sailfishos is armv7l and above | 13:21 |
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| leinir | on an ouya, however... ;) | 13:24 |
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| leinir | hm... armv7 in that, guess not | 13:26 |
| Stskeeps | well, armv7 is fine | 13:28 |
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| leinir | it's a tegra3 based android device... ;) | 13:37 |
| leinir | you guys should totally have a chat with the ouya people... if you're not already :) | 13:37 |
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| leinir | seems like a match made in heaven to me :) | 13:37 |
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| zuh | leinir: sailfishos on ouya? Maybe with a touchscreen tv sure, but otherwise seems like the UI would be kind of awkward to use... :) | 14:07 |
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| Skorpy | hey, is it possible yet to develop applications on the phone? as in press run -> opens up in the phone | 14:08 |
| leinir | zuh: well yes, it'd need some work on the UI, but that's why getting directly in touch with ouya would be neat... there's an ouya 2 to build, after all ;) | 14:08 |
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| locusf | Skorpy: the feature is coming afaik | 14:10 |
| Skorpy | locusf: ah ok. thanks. I thought it would have already been there :P | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | leinir: well, maybe see it more as a companion device | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | how would you use it? | 14:11 |
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| leinir | Stskeeps: i was more thinking of how neat it'd be if the ouya 2 ended up being based on sailfishos... as that would ensure it both had some really close-to-the-metal power, but without the experience-breaking fallbacks to showing the android settings dialog and the like, but without sacrificing android compatibility for games :) | 14:12 |
| zuh | leinir: What would be the pro's for getting sailfishos on ouya? You'd probably lose some games since you are even more away from Android compatibility... The UI has not much to offer for non-touch environment... etc :) | 14:12 |
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| leinir | zuh: ok, forget sailfishos and think nemo + an ouya specific UI | 14:13 |
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| Stskeeps | simple stuff like 'move this video playing to the tv' is naturally sane | 14:14 |
| Stskeeps | but from a gaming experience, i'd say that the console should augment the gaming experience of the phone | 14:15 |
| zuh | leinir: Well, you can do debian there already so can't see what would prevent a mer port (if it doesn't in fact have one yet) | 14:15 |
| zuh | But then it's just another ARM board... :) | 14:15 |
| leinir | Stskeeps: i'm not thinking for jolla as a companion to the console - i'm thinking replace android on ouya itself... but sure, having an ouya companion on jolla would be neat too (the psvita stuff for ps3 and ps4 might be interesting to look at there) | 14:16 |
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| kilou_ | Where can I get the source code? | 14:51 |
| Nicd- | take a look at the mer and nemo projects | 14:51 |
| kilou_ | Is the kernel source also available? | 14:51 |
| Nicd- | you mean the operating system kernel? | 14:53 |
| kilou_ | Yeah | 14:56 |
| kilou_ | Found it | 14:56 |
| Nicd- | kilou_: take a look at https://github.com/torvalds/linux ;) | 14:57 |
| kilou_ | But | 14:57 |
| kilou_ | The Jolla phone cannot bz ordered online? | 14:57 |
| kilou_ | e | 14:58 |
| Nicd- | not yet, at this point only preorders are served | 14:58 |
| kilou_ | :/ | 14:58 |
| kilou_ | Isn't the phone overpriced? | 14:59 |
| kilou_ | 400€ fof that | 14:59 |
| kilou_ | No store | 14:59 |
| flux | well, it's middle priced in the sailfishos phone market | 14:59 |
| Nicd- | hehe | 14:59 |
| Nicd- | I'm quite happy with my phone | 15:00 |
| Nicd- | besides, I didn't pay 400 € for the current situation, I paid it for a future I believe is achievable | 15:01 |
| kilou_ | I've wondered to get one, to hack the os and develop some app | 15:01 |
| Nicd- | and to support Jolla in getting closer to that goal | 15:01 |
| kilou_ | But i'm gonna wait for the flashable image | 15:02 |
| kilou_ | A d try it on my n4 | 15:02 |
| nander | Nicd- well said | 15:02 |
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| Nicd- | the N900 was a terrible phone. it was bulky, slow, buggy and had the most terrible email client I've ever had to use. I was still happy with my purchase | 15:04 |
| Nicd- | and the Jolla is on another level already | 15:04 |
| TheBootroo | Nicd-: does the Jolla have converstion mode on mail client ? | 15:07 |
| Nicd- | TheBootroo: no | 15:08 |
| nander | Create a mail client that does ;) | 15:08 |
| flux | that would've been nice | 15:08 |
| flux | I hope to see lots of progress within the next year or so :) | 15:08 |
| Nicd- | yeah | 15:08 |
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| eeko | how does multitasking work with android apps? can one run whatsapp on the background with no problem? | 15:27 |
| Nicd- | yes | 15:27 |
| eeko | without killing battery life? ;) | 15:28 |
| Nicd- | seems so | 15:28 |
| Nicd- | I have it constantly running | 15:28 |
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| eeko | and how long does your battery last? | 15:29 |
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| eeko | i was planning on getting a new phone for christmas, but i kind of need to use it for my daily life as well :P | 15:32 |
| eeko | the only thing i'm concerned about is the battery life | 15:32 |
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| Nicd- | eeko: just a sec | 15:38 |
| Nicd- | < Nicd-> yesterday unplugged phone at 0830 with 100 % charge, plugged in 14.5 hours later with ~25 % charge | 15:38 |
| Nicd- | < Nicd-> usage a bit more than normal, including maybe 30 - 45 minutes of calls | 15:39 |
| Nicd- | < Nicd-> data connection open all day, apps open: people, phone, email (with sync), whatsapp, messaging, clock | 15:39 |
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| eeko | cool, thx | 15:46 |
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| TheBootroo | can someone with device check if "CityBike'me" has landed into Jolla Store yet ? | 16:08 |
| TheBootroo | dunno how much time between Harbour QA approval and Store availability | 16:08 |
| SieniMaagi | at least mine doesn't still show any apps that weren't there on the launch day | 16:12 |
| TheBootroo | SieniMaagi: OK | 16:12 |
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| sremes | mine shows StopWatch-app, which it says was released today, so more are probably coming | 16:14 |
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| TheBootroo | sremes: rly ? | 16:15 |
| TheBootroo | mine was approved yesterday in the morn | 16:15 |
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| saildev | i'm trying to install my apps to my jolla for testing purposes.. i use "pkcon install-local" and at first it worked just fine.. then i got this error message about releases.jolla.com connection and i tried again.. now i have "fatal error: authentication failed (is ssu set up correctly?)".. what is this? | 17:06 |
| Aard | saildev: ssu domain | 17:07 |
| saildev | jolla | 17:07 |
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| Aard | saildev: you played with stuff :p | 17:07 |
| Aard | do ssu domain sales | 17:07 |
| saildev | i haven't done anything else than just pkcon install-local :D | 17:07 |
| tbr | you probably pressed in developer mode ui 'enable developer updates' | 17:08 |
| saildev | by accident yes but didn't accept it.. | 17:08 |
| JvD_ | CityBike'me is in the store | 17:08 |
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| JvD_ | TheBootroo: ^ | 17:08 |
| saildev | hm, well, anyways it works again :) thanks! | 17:08 |
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| tbr | saildev: pressing the button is sadly enough. I consider that a bug. | 17:10 |
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| JvD_ | and now it's installed | 17:10 |
| saildev | well yeah, that is a bug then, yes :D | 17:10 |
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| JvD_ | TheBootroo: with 4 downloads | 17:13 |
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| TheBootroo | JvD_: already 4 ??? cool ! | 17:42 |
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| JvD_ | one of them being me | 17:44 |
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| Tofe | is it possible to download an app from the store with a web browser ? | 17:45 |
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| luilufin_ | Elleo: Will you make Pebble-client for Sailfish? | 18:45 |
| * tbr is working on getting SOWatch working for Metawatch and LiveView | 18:46 | |
| luilufin_ | I have Pebble already | 18:47 |
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| Juice__ | so, I updated sailfish ide and now the emulator mouse does not work | 19:57 |
| Juice__ | anyone else encountered this? | 19:57 |
| jake9xx | Juice__: at all ? | 19:58 |
| jake9xx | Juice__: what about going on top of the vm and pressing right-ctrl ? | 19:59 |
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| Juice__ | it captures the mouse but the sailfish mouse pointer does not show | 19:59 |
| Juice__ | the sailfish pointer does not show in any case | 19:59 |
| jake9xx | ok - I've seen this once with Windows7 on some sdk user but in that case he had messed around with VBox's setup | 20:00 |
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| Juice__ | maybe I should check the setup | 20:00 |
| jake9xx | Juice__: what's your host OS, vbox version ? | 20:00 |
| Juice__ | but I just updated it | 20:00 |
| Juice__ | my host: Arch linux, vbox: 4.3.0 | 20:01 |
| jake9xx | 32 or 64bit ? | 20:02 |
| jake9xx | my setup is ubuntu 12.04 + vbox 4.3.2 | 20:02 |
| Juice__ | 64bit | 20:02 |
| jake9xx | 64bit - and no problems | 20:02 |
| Juice__ | maybe I should try to update vbox | 20:02 |
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| jake9xx | in vbox console, check that pointing device is PS/2 Mouse | 20:04 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hey sailors | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | how do I get my rpm on my Jolla? | 20:06 |
| tortoisedoc_ | meaning, no direct way to do it from qtcreator atm correct? | 20:07 |
| lpotter | I use scp | 20:07 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: coming up in the next sdk release | 20:07 |
| Juice__ | jake9xx: I am updating vbox | 20:07 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx : groovie | 20:07 |
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| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: currently you can make rpm's with qtc and then scp them into device | 20:08 |
| tortoisedoc_ | lpotter, any dep problems? I know device is waay ahead of alpha sdk | 20:08 |
| tortoisedoc_ | jake9xx thanks, we definitely need qtcreator to access our awesome new phones :P | 20:08 |
| lpotter | other than having to install libsailfishapp, no | 20:09 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm libsailfishapp eh | 20:09 |
| tortoisedoc_ | crap | 20:10 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: libsailfishapp is a harness so you need only main.cpp + qml stuff | 20:10 |
| tortoisedoc_ | qtcreator could really take a "make package" option | 20:10 |
| lpotter | 'deploy' | 20:10 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: click the icon above 'play' | 20:10 |
| jake9xx | select 'deploy method arm' | 20:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thanks yes that's known | 20:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | im just whining I cant make a package without deploying here :P | 20:11 |
| jake9xx | qtc's support for packaging is a bit limited | 20:11 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hmmm | 20:12 |
| jake9xx | basically it understands qmake, make and make install | 20:12 |
| fk_lx | jake9xx: btw. for me when I wanted to get rpm for ARM it wasn't clear that I need to select 'deploy method arm' I've instead chosen the first one | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | i have "deploy method arm" , wonder what it is? | 20:12 |
| jake9xx | fk_lx: we're delivering more intuitive solution very soon | 20:12 |
| fk_lx | jake9xx: well in the end I've figured out, but it took some time to guess what is wrong ;-) | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aaaah thanks fk_lx answered on the fly | 20:12 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :D | 20:12 |
| jake9xx | tortoisedoc_: it makes the rpm packages and prompts you where they are so you can scp them to your Jolla | 20:12 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | btw | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | from the target management | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | you can install *-doc versions of packages | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | where do I find the docs then?? | 20:14 |
| jake9xx | where the package installs them | 20:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | im feeling like a real n00b here :D | 20:15 |
| jake9xx | target is treated as a sysroot | 20:15 |
| Juice__ | jake9xx: okay I update vbox, not working. How do I check that the pointing device is PS/2 ? | 20:15 |
| jake9xx | Juice__: open VirtualBox console | 20:15 |
| jake9xx | cmdline: VirtualBox & | 20:15 |
| jake9xx | :) | 20:15 |
| Juice__ | so that is the manager? | 20:16 |
| jake9xx | rightclick on 'SailfishOS Emulator' | 20:16 |
| jake9xx | -> settings | 20:16 |
| Juice__ | okay | 20:17 |
| jake9xx | -> system | 20:17 |
| Juice__ | ah, there | 20:17 |
| Juice__ | PS/2 device, yes | 20:17 |
| jake9xx | really strance | 20:18 |
| jake9xx | strange | 20:18 |
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| Juice__ | keyboard works (I can change the terminal with Ctrl+F2) | 20:19 |
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| Juice__ | strange, now the pointer is present | 20:30 |
| Juice__ | and itworks | 20:30 |
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| Juice__ | jake9xx: did you have to install xcb libraries? | 20:37 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | uuugh | 20:53 |
| tortoisedoc_ | really nasty bug in email client | 20:53 |
| tortoisedoc_ | text field of full mail zooms to original text size | 20:53 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and then does not unzoom | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ie | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | if you have a line of 2000 chars | 20:54 |
| tortoisedoc_ | the text will be übersmall | 20:54 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | and zooming will be blurred and unreadable | 20:54 |
| disharmonic | Should we expect an SDK update now that the phone is out? | 20:55 |
| tortoisedoc_ | oh and also landscape mode would be awesome :P | 20:55 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm | 21:02 |
| tortoisedoc_ | sailors, what's the difference in qt creator between PkgConfigBR / PkgBR / Requires? | 21:03 |
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| special | tortoisedoc_: BR is BuildRequires, so build dependencies; Requires is installed dependencies (that are not linked shared libraries - those are found automatically) | 21:10 |
| special | tortoisedoc_: PkgConfigBR takes a pkgconfig file name and finds the right devel packages, PkgBR expects the actual package name | 21:10 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | us | 21:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | erm | 21:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | uh | 21:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | RPM build errors: + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/find-docs.sh /home/deploy/installroot | 21:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/brp-java-repack-jars | 21:13 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :( | 21:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin | 21:14 |
| tortoisedoc_ | File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin | 21:14 |
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| kaltsi | disharmonic: sdk update is on its way.. probably won't make it this week because of the long weekend (Finnish independence day on Friday) | 21:15 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (and pikkujoulu's ;P) | 21:15 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | any help with the above ^greatly appreciated | 21:20 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | (trying to build rpm for jolla phone on win7) | 21:21 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc_: that can mean that your package did not create /usr/bin and its %files section says it wants to include /usr/bin in the rpm | 21:21 |
| kaltsi | if it's the default template application, it should of work, but if you've created the yaml/spec by yourself.. then there can be errors :) | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | kaltsi : does a copy of the template still count as a default? :P | 21:23 |
| kaltsi | a copy.. hmm | 21:23 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok | 21:24 |
| tortoisedoc_ | replaced what was in %files with a full path to my build artifact (plugin) | 21:25 |
| tortoisedoc_ | but still meh :( | 21:25 |
| kaltsi | if you create a new template app, can you build that? | 21:26 |
| kaltsi | so does the environment work in the first place | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | yes | 21:26 |
| tortoisedoc_ | templates work | 21:26 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | .,,or at least used to up to today | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | this happens with an empty files section | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | RPM build errors: + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/brp-python-hardlink | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/find-docs.sh /home/deploy/ | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | sorry this was + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/find-docs.sh /home/deploy/installroot | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | + /usr/lib/rpm/meego/brp-java-repack-jars | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin | 21:27 |
| tortoisedoc_ | File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/bin | 21:27 |
| kaltsi | can you paste the full build log somewhere.. or is it secret stuff? | 21:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | one sec | 21:28 |
| tortoisedoc_ | aaah | 21:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | turns out | 21:32 |
| tortoisedoc_ | my .yaml file was named as the template project | 21:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | and the .spec file like the project where i copied the yaml into | 21:33 |
| tortoisedoc_ | renaming the file changes the output log significantly | 21:33 |
| kaltsi | do you have lots of manual edits in the spec? | 21:33 |
| sharpneli | SailfishOS uses --mfpu=vfpv3-d16 by default and the only sailfish hardware is capable for --mfpu=neon-vfpv4. Is it intentionally left like that to maintain binary compatibility of older arm devices? | 21:34 |
| kaltsi | if not, you can remove it completely and the yaml will be converted to spec | 21:34 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | hmm no changes in the spec t all | 21:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | now i get | 21:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found | 21:35 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc_: ok I suggest, just rm it and it will be recreated in the next build.. then we can rule out any cruft from copied spec file | 21:35 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok will do | 21:35 |
| kaltsi | that means what it says.. your make install installs some files but those are not mentioned in the %files section | 21:36 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ok so my files section is still crap | 21:37 |
| kaltsi | sharpneli: yes something like that, neon and vfpv4 could be used in some packages that could really benefit from those | 21:37 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc_: yes crappy %files, but edit it via the yaml | 21:38 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | kaltsi : done, replaced all entries and putted full path to my build artifact | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (built plugin .so) | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | same error :/ | 21:39 |
| sharpneli | There are not many of those, so vfpv3 is probably a sensible choice. I made a simple ridiculously ideal test case and in that neon was mere 2.6x faster. | 21:39 |
| kaltsi | where does your "make install" install it | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/c8/8406f90db921363c823d73d1ee8d67068b50a2 | 21:39 |
| tortoisedoc_ | /usr/lib/debug/.build-id/c8/8406f90db921363c823d73d1ee8d67068b50a2.debug | 21:39 |
| kaltsi | those are just the debug symbol files | 21:40 |
| kaltsi | sharpneli: cool :) I guess some codecs or multimedia stuff in general will benefit | 21:41 |
| tortoisedoc_ | same error goes for the .so files | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | :/ | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | my files section currently looks like this | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | (restored it to the default one) | 21:42 |
| tortoisedoc_ | %{_bindir} | 21:42 |
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| kaltsi | that's not the default.. it has many more | 21:44 |
| tortoisedoc_ | hrmm | 21:45 |
| sharpneli | kaltsi: Yeah. I was just wondering about the reason so if I make an app to the Jolla store will someone peek inside and check "Ahaa! You used a vector load that's not supported by vfpv3" :) | 21:45 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ok | 21:47 |
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| kaltsi | sharpneli: eventually someone might do that :) there are a number of static checks that are run for the submitted stuff and those checks are not set in stone yet | 21:47 |
| tortoisedoc_ | copied over all the others | 21:47 |
| kaltsi | tortoisedoc_: it should say which file was installed but unpackaged | 21:47 |
| kaltsi | or which files | 21:47 |
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| tortoisedoc_ | ah | 21:48 |
| tortoisedoc_ | ill continue tomorrow | 21:48 |
| tortoisedoc_ | thanks kaltsi for the support :) | 21:48 |
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| kaltsi | yw :) it's hard to try to guess, the build log would have been helpful for helping :) but I'm sure you'll figure it out.. just believe what the logs tell you | 21:49 |
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| disharmonic | kaltsi, thx for the update | 22:02 |
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