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| faenil | Venemo, yo | 11:59 |
| Venemo | faenil: hey! what's up? | 11:59 |
| faenil | all good, making pizza :D | 11:59 |
| faenil | you? | 11:59 |
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| artemma | number of apps "submitted yesterday" and devs registered yesterday stays constant in harbor for several days by now. Updates not happening or indeed such a coincidence? | 12:09 |
| coderus | artemma: i wanna wait for couple of months before submitting anything to Harbour now :D | 12:09 |
| coderus | i dont like to rebuild my app every day after "Policy changed" again | 12:10 |
| * artemma values day one effect | 12:10 | |
| artemma | and well, it just feels cool to have my app operational on day one even if it doesn't give any significant effect | 12:10 |
| coderus | artemma: you can grab my app on OpenRepos. it using restricted apis and have invalid appname, but it fully functional | 12:11 |
| artemma | Wazzup? | 12:12 |
| coderus | i;ll wait until Harbour will be good place to posting complex applications | 12:12 |
| * artemma is not going to have a device for quite some time yet (wave 2 preorder) | 12:12 | |
| coderus | artemma: what mean "Wazzup"? | 12:12 |
| artemma | I thought that was your app :) | 12:12 |
| * coderus havent preordered device at all | 12:12 | |
| artemma | sorry, got usernaes and their apps mixed | 12:12 |
| coderus | artemma: my app is Persecute | 12:13 |
| artemma | for home based kids punishment? :) | 12:13 |
| coderus | artemma: its WhatsApp Qt5/QML client | 12:13 |
| coderus | ah, wazzup :D | 12:13 |
| artemma | ah, so I remembered correctly | 12:14 |
| artemma | there's some app called wazzup, unofficial whatsapp client | 12:14 |
| coderus | wazzapp and whatsup here | 12:14 |
| artemma | I think I've hard it was going to be ported to sailfish | 12:14 |
| coderus | no wazzup :D | 12:14 |
| artemma | whatever :) | 12:14 |
| coderus | :P | 12:14 |
| coderus | artemma: porting to Qt5/Quick2 is easy and interesting :0 | 12:16 |
| artemma | what is whatsapp client called persecute? | 12:17 |
| artemma | trying to get the logic | 12:17 |
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| coderus | whatsapp blocking 3rd party clients. so it persecute to hack reverse protocol and be always up-to-date with fresh tokens and resources :D | 12:19 |
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| * artemma off to porting Flashlight to new sailfish requirements | 12:39 | |
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| coderus | artemma: i suggest you to wait 2-3 months for api. currently api will be blacklisted, then freezed, and after all you can use fresh api : | 12:43 |
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| artemma | that's fine, I've got a plan how to survive without extra packages | 12:44 |
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| artemma | you know flashlight is not exactly a whatsapp client, it can live on system packages :) | 12:45 |
| * artemma is still somewhat pissed off that harbor people don't reply, so you have no idea if effort is wasted or not | 12:48 | |
| artemma | or is it my individual case? | 12:48 |
| artemma | guys, do you get any replies from harbour support email address? | 12:48 |
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| artemma | Does anybody know the way to share build number or version string between .yaml and cpp/qml? I am sort of tired to make sure the same number is updated in many places | 12:53 |
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| artemma | New app icons are to be 86x86, but are to be deployed still to /90x90 directory. Correct? | 13:10 |
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| coderus | artemma: no, to 86x86 directory | 13:13 |
| artemma | you sure? | 13:13 |
| artemma | don't remember seeing info on it :/ | 13:13 |
| coderus | artemma: you should wait for SDK release to be able to build with Harbour requiement | 13:13 |
| coderus | or hack sailfishapp prf to make build in right folder | 13:14 |
| * coderus choosed 2nd way | 13:14 | |
| coderus | there are no 86x86 folder in current sdk | 13:14 |
| coderus | it will be available in update | 13:14 |
| aard_ | artemma: sorry for that, but we don't have that many people available, and I guess all of those are busy fixing issues found in SDK | 13:16 |
| artemma | aard_: if it feels like I am blaming somebody, I am sorry for miscommunicating. I understand advantages and disadvantages of being the first mover | 13:17 |
| artemma | still it feels sad to feel this disadvantages on myself :) | 13:17 |
| aard_ | we don't like the situation as well, but we're trying to get everything shiny as fast as possible :) | 13:17 |
| artemma | and yes, I am somewhat puzzled by the difference in communication style between IRC and official channels, but well, you guys know better how you want to manage it | 13:18 |
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| artemma | package and binary name corrected. That was easy :) On to the icon deployment folder | 13:46 |
| artemma | trying to figure out who deploys app icon to exactly /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/icons/hicolor/90x90/apps | 13:52 |
| artemma | sailfishapp CONFIG maybe? | 13:53 |
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| artemma | error: File not found: /home/deploy/installroot/usr/share/icons/hicolor/86x86/apps | 14:02 |
| artemma | hmm. I explicitly make .pro INSTALLS it to there, but it still installs to 90x90 and thats it | 14:02 |
| * artemma is sorta hesitant to rewrite CONFIG+=sailfishapp features manually, but apparently will have to | 14:04 | |
| artemma | heh, I always didn't like to much naming expectations based magic in there | 14:05 |
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| coderus | artemma: you need to edit sailfishapp.prf in mer sdk. i wrote it hour ago >___< | 14:20 |
| artemma | coderus: thx. By now I think I half-reimplemented it :) | 14:20 |
| artemma | can;t where sailfishapp.prf is located though.. | 14:21 |
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| zuh | artemma: SailfishOS/mersdk/targets/SailfishOS-i486-x86/usr/share/qt5/mkspecs/features/sailfishapp.prf | 14:29 |
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| artemma | thanks | 14:30 |
| artemma | now I know where to check all the magic it's doing | 14:30 |
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| coderus | yes, better remove sailfishapp dependency and insert its content to your .pro file ;) | 14:33 |
| artemma | that's what I am doing, yes | 14:33 |
| artemma | now icon and namings are done, onto dependences removal | 14:34 |
| artemma | dependencies* | 14:34 |
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| artemma | one dependency off, now the tough one left | 14:46 |
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| artemma | Error message: Couldn't resolve host 'releases.sailfishos.org' | 18:18 |
| artemma | interesting | 18:18 |
| artemma | that is when installing RPM that needs to pull dependencies | 18:18 |
| Stskeeps | hm? | 18:19 |
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| artemma | I tried installing stuff to emulatoe | 18:31 |
| artemma | Requires needed QtQuickTest and failed to download it | 18:31 |
| artemma | Anybody with a real device here (and hopefully recent firmware)? | 18:32 |
| Yaniel | ask that question in a week :D | 18:32 |
| artemma | I've rebuild flashlight for the new requirements. Shouldn't go for any packages, uses (hopefully) correct package and binary names and everything else | 18:32 |
| artemma | try it - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2.armv7hl.rpm | 18:32 |
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| Skorpy | flashlight as in turns the whole screen white? :P | 18:36 |
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| artemma | Skorpy: as it turns the camera flashlight on. Mostly :) | 18:45 |
| Jonni | artemma: if you get cant resolve host, then you might want to run as root in emu: echo nameserver 8.8.8.8 > /etc/resolv.conf | 18:45 |
| artemma | thx | 18:46 |
| artemma | for now I just disabled that Require - it's for test sub-package only. | 18:47 |
| artemma | Serious development delayed until new SDK, only doing release now hoping to get to harbor by device launch date | 18:47 |
| artemma | heh, if only harbour care would be contactable :( | 18:47 |
| dm8tbr | weird dependencies on that package | 18:48 |
| artemma | dm8tbr: ? | 18:50 |
| Jonni | artemma: "Vakava virhe: mikään ei tarjoa libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0), jota harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-6.armv7hl tarvitsee" so install fails on libc depency | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | is that a i486 build by chance? | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | or have x86 binaries within it? | 18:50 |
| artemma | uhm.. shouldn't be, I cleaned | 18:51 |
| artemma | but of course I could have forgotten | 18:51 |
| artemma | will rebuild now | 18:52 |
| dm8tbr | only one binary in it, and that claims arm | 18:53 |
| artemma | hmm, as a part of porting I cloned manually what sailfishapp CONFIG was doing, could have missed something.. | 18:54 |
| artemma | works on emulator just fine :) | 18:54 |
| zuh | I've seen the GLIBC_2.0 requirement when switching between arm & x86 builds, so I've learned to first clean, then switch, then rebuild. That sequence seems to always work. | 18:56 |
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| Jonni | artemma: and your tests directory will also make upcoming rpm package validation script to fail your submission. | 19:01 |
| artemma | tests directory? | 19:02 |
| artemma | hmm, that's mistake then | 19:02 |
| artemma | it should go to a different package | 19:02 |
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| Jonni | and your .desktop files Icon line will fail too :) | 19:03 |
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| artemma | Jonni: why icon line? | 19:04 |
| artemma | mailing list old to get rid of path there and just use appname | 19:04 |
| artemma | or did it mean that whole line should be gone? | 19:04 |
| Jonni | Icon=harbour-flashlight.png should be -> Icon=harbour-flashlight | 19:05 |
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| Jonni | system automaticly finds .png from the name | 19:05 |
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| artemma | а | 19:08 |
| artemma | ok, thanks! | 19:08 |
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| Jonni | and package is missing Requires: libsailfishapp | 19:17 |
| Jonni | but after installing that requirement, and force installing with nodeps, and fixed .desktop file it starts ok. And it flashes the camera led. | 19:18 |
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| artemma | Requires: libsailfishapp?? wow | 19:20 |
| artemma | I have Requires: - sailfishsilica-qt5 | 19:20 |
| artemma | probably some old stuff.. | 19:20 |
| artemma | Jonni: what is nodeps? | 19:20 |
| artemma | Jonni: how about the icon? Can you see it fine in the launcher? | 19:20 |
| dm8tbr | ignoring dependencies upon rpm installation | 19:20 |
| Jonni | I tested with really clean newly flashed image so it might just been missing libsailfishapp, usually it might be there is you have installed some other app that pulls that in first. | 19:21 |
| artemma | Jonni: current requires should fetch lib, apparently I used old Requires from the old app template | 19:22 |
| Jonni | artemma: with your harbour-flashing-png line icon did not show up, but when I changed to Icon line that I suggested, then icon showed up and its a nice looking icon | 19:22 |
| artemma | guys, can you try new build now? | 19:23 |
| artemma | same link https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2.armv7hl.rpm | 19:23 |
| artemma | possibly I have resolved this issue | 19:23 |
| artemma | hopefully including the tests dir | 19:23 |
| Jonni | still complains about libc | 19:25 |
| artemma | I don't get it :/ | 19:25 |
| Jonni | and still has tests dir | 19:25 |
| artemma | I never require it anywhere | 19:25 |
| Jonni | so maybe upload failed? | 19:26 |
| artemma | funny rpm -q --filesbypkg -p harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-7.armv7hl.rpm shows nothing about tests | 19:26 |
| artemma | ah.. | 19:26 |
| Jonni | your filename is different than dl link | 19:26 |
| artemma | let's try new link - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-7.armv7hl.rpm | 19:26 |
| artemma | that one is updated for sure | 19:27 |
| Jonni | artemma: still have tests dir: linking to libQt5QuickTest.so.5 in file ./usr/share/harbour-flashlight/qml/components/Mixpanel/tests/tst_Mixpanel is not allowed | 19:28 |
| artemma | that's impossible, I can't see it in rpm... | 19:28 |
| artemma | hmm | 19:28 |
| artemma | must by copying mistake still somewhere. Double checking | 19:29 |
| artemma | I listed files from exactly the package that was on the download link, there are no test files inside it claims.. | 19:29 |
| artemma | AAAAA! | 19:30 |
| dm8tbr | 1ecec495454012c32c294f7707bfbb3a /home/dm8tbr/Downloads/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-7.armv7hl.rpm | 19:30 |
| artemma | understood | 19:30 |
| artemma | there's nothing wrong about these test files | 19:30 |
| dm8tbr | they are x86 | 19:30 |
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| artemma | that is subproject, they are never going to be executed, just a part of normal app qml files | 19:30 |
| artemma | okay, x86 binary from git subproject slipped in, unclean .gitignore in a subproject, thanks | 19:31 |
| artemma | Jonni: test files should be fine as long as they are inside main app's folder, right? | 19:31 |
| artemma | just some files inside app that happen to be named "test" | 19:32 |
| Jonni | artemma: nope, they are not allowed to be in the rpm | 19:32 |
| artemma | why? | 19:32 |
| artemma | Can't my app contain any QMLs it needs? | 19:32 |
| Jonni | as they link to libQt5QuickTest.so.5 which is blacklisted | 19:32 |
| artemma | that's ok, I can remove them, want to understand reasons | 19:32 |
| artemma | yes, binary is a problem, I'll kill it | 19:32 |
| artemma | but test subdir itself is fine, right? | 19:33 |
| Jonni | subdirnames can any anything yes, as long as the qml files in there doesnt import blacklisted stuff :) | 19:36 |
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| Jonni | (and yes the whitelist is currently pretty limited as even my own example apps are hitting blackist failures, I'm trying to get harbout team to add more stuff to whitelist, but dont have idea when it will happen). | 19:38 |
| artemma | let's try again - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-9.armv7hl.rpm | 19:38 |
| artemma | fingers crossed | 19:38 |
| artemma | Jonni: I cleaned flashlight so that it uses nothing extra | 19:39 |
| artemma | it sucks not to be able to use qtgraphicaleffects even, but well, if it's needed, then needed | 19:39 |
| Jonni | artemma: In ./usr/share/harbour-flashlight/qml/components/Mixpanel/tests/tst_Mixpanel.qml the 'QtTest 1.0' is not allowed | 19:39 |
| artemma | Jonni: but this file is never ever loaded | 19:39 |
| artemma | it just sits inside RPM | 19:39 |
| Jonni | artemma: well dont blame me, I just run the checking script that harbour qa will run :) | 19:39 |
| artemma | oh.. | 19:40 |
| artemma | so script just goes through all the files | 19:40 |
| artemma | sigh.. | 19:40 |
| artemma | well, I understand the reasons | 19:40 |
| artemma | arrgh, so I'll need to split subproject into two sub-subprojects to exclude tests.. | 19:40 |
| artemma | what about the rest of stuff? libc fine now? | 19:41 |
| Jonni | artemma: yes now it doesnt complain about libc, installs fine and icons shows up. | 19:42 |
| dm8tbr | probably was because of the x86 binary | 19:43 |
| artemma | okay, then only test qml files left, that I can solve tomorrow | 19:43 |
| artemma | dm8tbr: I think so too | 19:43 |
| artemma | let's hope harbour people will reply this time when I'll ask them for expedited processing | 19:43 |
| Jonni | so in theory it has better changes to get approved by qa. QA script still gives failure, but thats mostly because there is a bug in QA script :) | 19:43 |
| artemma | past experience shows they reply in 0% of cases so far | 19:44 |
| artemma | Jonni: I think I should remove these QML files with old imports. Yes your script cannot tell which qml files are actually used at runtime, so it checks what it can during build time | 19:44 |
| Jonni | well they are not expediding even Jolla employees, so its quite unlikely. I'm still waiting for my package rename qa's :) | 19:44 |
| artemma | Jonni: do you get replies at least? :) | 19:45 |
| artemma | my care mail went to a black hole | 19:45 |
| Jonni | I havent emailed to care mails, but yes I can cheat and go to internal irc channel. | 19:45 |
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| Jonni | most likely they are just quite busy to respond, as there are quite many things to do before wednesday :) | 19:46 |
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| artemma | I wonder if it's better to resubmit package to harbour or to ask them and wait for a reply yet | 19:54 |
| artemma | there is a chance they will let the violating package be live on day one and I'd hate to reenter then queue and loose the launch day opportunity because of that | 19:54 |
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| artemma | creating fake sub-package to grab unused QMLs | 20:07 |
| artemma | weird, but it seems to be the easiest way to get rid of them :) | 20:08 |
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| artemma | One more test please :) - https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19482748/harbour-flashlight-1.0.2-10.armv7hl%20copy.rpm | 20:24 |
| artemma | should be cleanish clean now | 20:24 |
| artemma | I couldn't stop that close to the target :) | 20:24 |
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| TheBootroo | ohai ! | 21:11 |
| TheBootroo | ohai ! | 21:11 |
| TheBootroo | i'm trying to dev an app for SFOS | 21:11 |
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| TheBootroo | i saw we can use the image://theme provider for some default styled images | 21:11 |
| TheBootroo | but i can't find the list of icons available anywhere | 21:12 |
| TheBootroo | i would need a 'clear' icon | 21:12 |
| TheBootroo | you know, to clear in one click a text field | 21:12 |
| TheBootroo | kind of thing that looks like < X ] | 21:12 |
| TheBootroo | and maybe one 'find' icon, magnifier glass or anything | 21:13 |
| TheBootroo | where can i find the reference of the icons available ? | 21:13 |
| artemma | TheBootroo: you can see many icons in the emaultor | 21:20 |
| artemma | ssh to it and see | 21:20 |
| TheBootroo | artemma: how ? | 21:20 |
| artemma | you can scp them to your pc | 21:20 |
| artemma | icons path you can see from Qt Creator console | 21:21 |
| artemma | every time it starts app, it mentions theme folders in console | 21:21 |
| artemma | these are, however, just the icons that happen to be present in a theme | 21:22 |
| artemma | no idea is some/any/all of them are guaranteed to be present in the final devices and future builds | 21:22 |
| artemma | I guess sailors are not yet sure themselves that is why these icons are not specified anywhere in the docs :) | 21:23 |
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| artemma | I would be quite sure that standard looking icon names will be there for a long time (e.g. back or camera or something like that) | 21:24 |
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| TheBootroo | artemma: the issue : SSH access is for the SDK image which doesn't have anything in /usr/share/themes | 21:28 |
| TheBootroo | would need to connect in ssh to the emulator, dunno if possible | 21:28 |
| artemma | TheBootroo: sdk and emulator are two different vms | 21:29 |
| artemma | you can ssh to both | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | it is very well possible to ssh into the emulator | 21:29 |
| artemma | I have to run, check the sailfish os faq | 21:29 |
| Yaniel | and sometimes even necessary | 21:29 |
| artemma | it was somewhere there | 21:29 |
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| Venemo_N9 | faenil, I went to the Firefox OS event! | 21:35 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, cool! I was looking for you in the pic on twitter but couldn't spot you :) unless you're the guy with the yellow tshirt :) | 21:36 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, where did you see that picture? | 21:37 |
| Venemo_N9 | btw, Firefox OS is not slow anymore | 21:37 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, https://twitter.com/robyninstereo/status/404236311063961600 | 21:37 |
| Venemo_N9 | I was at the other side of the room | 21:38 |
| Venemo_N9 | but I'm on the final group shot for sure | 21:39 |
| faenil | oki :) | 21:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway, they handed out a Keon device to everyone | 21:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | and selected 6 people randomly who won a Peak | 21:39 |
| Venemo_N9 | first random pick in my life EVER when I won anything | 21:40 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, cool! :D | 21:41 |
| Venemo_N9 | so, what'm gonna do with two new phones? | 21:42 |
| faenil | no idea, I can take of the peak for you if you think you don't need it ;) | 21:42 |
| faenil | take care* | 21:42 |
| Venemo_N9 | lol | 21:43 |
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| Venemo_N9 | thanks for the offer faenil | 21:43 |
| faenil | I'm too kind, right? | 21:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | yes, but the Peak's going to be my main phone for a while | 21:44 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm willing to swap it for a Jolla, however | 21:45 |
| Venemo_N9 | :P | 21:46 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, then I'm not sure how long that "while" is going to be ;) | 21:47 |
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| Venemo_N9 | faenil, I'm not sure either | 21:48 |
| Venemo_N9 | faenil, but if you have a spare jolla in your drawer, I'm up for the trade | 21:48 |
| faenil | Venemo_N9, ahaha, nice trick ;) | 21:49 |
| wmarone_ | Venemo_N9: ah, Peak +N9 now? | 21:49 |
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| Venemo_N9 | nay, I haven't settled in with the peak yet | 21:50 |
| wmarone_ | which reminds me, should upate the image on my peak | 21:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | I also need to flash it with Firefox OS 1.2 | 21:51 |
| wmarone_ | it's much nicer than 1.1 | 21:51 |
| Venemo_N9 | before 1.2 it doesn't support A2DP | 21:52 |
| wmarone_ | though the early october image was hard on the battery >.> | 21:52 |
| Venemo_N9 | wmarone_, how do you like it? | 21:52 |
| wmarone_ | it's nice | 21:52 |
| Venemo_N9 | i mean, the device +the os? | 21:52 |
| wmarone_ | pre-1.2 it was too glitchy IMO | 21:52 |
| wmarone_ | the hardware is decent, certainly not bad for the price | 21:53 |
| wmarone_ | don't drop it though | 21:53 |
| wmarone_ | lower edge has opened on me | 21:53 |
| Venemo_N9 | for the N9 it was the corner | 21:54 |
| wmarone_ | my n9 has been fairly solid | 21:54 |
| wmarone_ | though it won't check e-mail anymore for some reason | 21:54 |
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| Venemo_N9 | 3 of the corners of my N9 is deformed | 21:55 |
| wmarone_ | dropped? | 21:56 |
| wmarone_ | yeah only way it could happen >.> | 21:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | several times | 21:56 |
| wmarone_ | yikes | 21:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | but the display is unbreakable | 21:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | it fell on concrete head down | 21:56 |
| Venemo_N9 | however the plastic around the jack plug is literally eroding, even though I haven't used the jack plug for the past year | 21:57 |
| Venemo_N9 | anyway | 21:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | I'm going to miss the always-on clock | 21:59 |
| Venemo_N9 | and the NFC pairing | 21:59 |
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| Venemo_N9 | ttyl | 22:07 |
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| Venemo | wmarone_: ping | 22:21 |
| wmarone_ | yo | 22:22 |
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| Venemo | since you also have a peak | 22:22 |
| Venemo | what do you think, does it survive an adapted microsim card? | 22:22 |
| wmarone_ | should | 22:22 |
| wmarone_ | I fed it my full size sim though | 22:23 |
| Venemo | I only have a microsim | 22:23 |
| wmarone_ | at the least the sim socket is somewhat accessible | 22:23 |
| wmarone_ | and not fully buried underneath the shell | 22:24 |
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| Venemo | ah | 22:31 |
| Venemo | man, I can't find the adapter | 22:31 |
| Venemo | I remember seeing it a few months ago and putting it "somewhere safe" | 22:32 |
| Venemo | wmarone_: anyway, what is the id that I should use for the peak when adding the udev rule? is it the same as the keon? | 22:37 |
| Venemo | ah, anyway, the flashing script works, I just needed to run it as root | 22:38 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 22:43 |
| wmarone_ | dunno about any udev rules, I haven't dug too much into it | 22:43 |
| Venemo | wow, the lock screen is finally usabe on 1.2 | 22:44 |
| wmarone_ | yup | 22:45 |
| wmarone_ | the slider is still misaligned | 22:45 |
| wmarone_ | but at least it doesn't stutter when it reaches the right side | 22:45 |
| wmarone_ | hmm | 22:46 |
| wmarone_ | my acer w500 is fighting for a reason to exist | 22:47 |
| Venemo | well, I meant from a usability standpoint, the lockscreen was horrible on 1.1 | 22:49 |
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| Venemo | hm, what the hell is this | 22:58 |
| Venemo | I found an adapter, so the Peak recognizes my SIM card, however it can't connect to the network | 22:59 |
| Venemo | it doesn't even find any network | 22:59 |
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