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SummeliGeneralAntilles: and that didn't help them much00:40
Summeliall the high-profile apps are still missing from blackberry world, even while you could just repackage your apps in 5min, and upload them to the market00:41
SummeliI did kindle app bymyself for my phone00:41
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phanindra_hello there06:58
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phanindra_I read an article saying sailfish OS anounced that now android apps are fully compantiable with sailfish os, I have and android device and I would like to know if I can install sailfish OS on my device and can expect everything to work fine07:00
phanindra_I really like the UI of sailfish OS and I love trying new things ... Any suggestions?07:00
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fk_lxphanindra_: well it won't be that easy, Sailfish will appear first on Jolla device, and porting it to Android phones is a task for community to do07:06
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phanindra_fk_lx: okay thanks for your response, I'm looking forward to community porting sailfish os to current android devices07:36
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McScruffhi all10:35
Stskeepshewwo10:35
McScruffi just read a little about sailfish, please correct me if im wrong, but will this be a linux os?10:37
jussihehe :D10:37
Stskeepsyes10:37
McScruffand would it be possible to port appls like xchat using normal compiling tools?10:38
StskeepsMcScruff: so, this system is qt5+wayland based, so stuff like gtk isn't available10:39
StskeepsMcScruff: also you'll likely need a mobile UI10:39
McScruffgtk was a bad choice , what about python?10:39
Stskeepspossibly yeah, but be aware it might be a unsupported api and break at any time10:40
McScruffit sounds good :)10:41
McScruffi think my next device will have to be compatible to try it :)10:41
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cybetteUpdate for SailfishOS SDK available https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-September/000738.html10:58
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jake9xxthere's a little 'easter egg' that is not in that mail - if you don't do anything ; Qt Creator will check for updates some 10s after start and if it finds them ; it gives an icon on toolbar saying updates available11:06
fk_lxjake9xx: better tell where is changelog11:08
jake9xxfk_lx: ok, we'll do that. We are making another update soon and this was also a bit late. I'll make changelog on this and post it to list soon.11:11
fk_lxjake9xx: Installer error at 45%11:12
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jake9xxfk_lx: you have VMs running?11:15
fk_lxnope11:15
jake9xxfk_lx: which platform?11:15
fk_lxLinux 64-bit11:15
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jake9xxfk_lx: that's our main dev.platform. Can you pastie the stuff from 'details' ?11:16
jake9xxplease11:16
fk_lxwould like to but I already finished, is there some kind of log?11:16
fk_lxI mean update log?11:16
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jake9xxfk_lx: just to clarify: you had SailfishSDK Alpha Qt5 installed and started updating?11:19
fk_lxyes11:20
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jake9xxfk_lx: ok in installation dir you'll find: InstallationLog.txt which should be that log file11:22
fk_lxjake9xx: ok11:22
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jake9xxfk_lx: if you can send it to me (jarko.vihriala@jollamobile.com) we can take a look11:23
fk_lxnot much of it:11:24
fk_lxcreated warning message box installationErrorWithRetry: 'Installer Error', Error during uninstallation process:11:24
fk_lxundo operation: InstallIcons11:24
fk_lx- arguments: /home/filipk/SailfishOS/share/icons, MerProject11:24
fk_lxDone11:24
jake9xxok11:25
fk_lxso some problems with installing/uninstalling icons11:25
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jake9xxok, so you aborted or what did you do then?11:27
fk_lxjake9xx: well, retry generated the same error (I have the same thing repeated in log)11:28
fk_lxjake9xx: so I hit ignore and installation continued and ended at 100%, but I don't know if I have everything right11:28
jake9xxfk_lx: let's see about the icon, gimme a sec11:29
fk_lxjake9xx: IDE, emulator etc. works (just created a new project)11:29
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fk_lxveskuh: hi :-)11:29
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veskuhfk_lx, hi11:30
jake9xxfk_lx: I don't have share/icons on my Alpha-Qt5 when installed from scratch11:30
fk_lxveskuh: how's going? :-)11:30
veskuhfk_lx, busy, busy :)11:30
fk_lxjake9xx: well I've also installed from scratch11:30
jake9xxfk_lx: ok, now updating. I created an 'icons' directory there11:31
fk_lxjake9xx: of course I had old Qt4 SDK, but I've deleted it long time ago, before installing Qt5 SDK, so I doubt I would have sth from old installation11:32
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jake9xxfk_lx: no I don't think so. Can you do ls -la on share/icons to see what's there?11:32
fk_lxjake9xx: sure11:33
fk_lxjake9xx: wait a sec11:33
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fk_lxjake9xx: well intersting thing -> I don't have such directory11:35
DarkSimIs Sailfish aimed for release at the same time the phone is released?11:35
fk_lxDarkSim: well the phone will came with Sailfish on it, as for the sources, most of them are just Mer and Nemo with only some thin Sailfish UI layer closed11:37
fluxhow about key apps, such as messaging, mails, contacts, notes, browser, etc?11:39
ericcchi  body  how i  cant  update the  new  sailfish  sdk?i  talk me  erot downloading11:39
ericccserver  replied  :forbidden11:39
jake9xxericcc: can you retry now?11:39
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ericccyep11:40
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jake9xxericcc: as you're from asia, it might take a little time as our cloud provider's caches are updating11:42
DarkSimJust wondering if it will be possible to install Sailfish on other phones before the launch of the Jolla phone11:42
DarkSimLike you can flash Android roms11:42
Sfiet_KonstantinDarkSim: we don't have source nor binaries11:44
Sfiet_Konstantinnot before launch11:44
fk_lxDarkSim: very less likely possible11:44
KiranosI think it will be alot of work to get drivers etc for modems for the phones working on sailfishos11:44
Nicd-is there a new SDK version?11:44
DarkSimHm ok11:44
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: updates to the old one11:45
Nicd-any changelog?11:45
Sfiet_KonstantinKiranos: libhybris11:45
Sfiet_KonstantinNicd-: fk_lx asked for it, and no changelog now11:45
Kiranosyes Sfiet_Konstantin is it not alot of work to get the phone compatible? might not be?11:45
fk_lxDarkSim: it wouldn't have bigger sense if Jolla would give "roms" for other devices, they need to earn some money on selling their own devices11:45
Sfiet_KonstantinKiranos: I don't know libhybris at all11:45
Sfiet_Konstantinbut sounds easy enough11:45
Kiranosok I dont know either11:46
DarkSimfk_lx, but isn't that the work of example xda?11:46
jake9xxNicd-: changelog is coming later today. The changes are not that big, as this was merely to make sure our update mechanisms work11:46
DarkSima lot of the rom building is done by them11:46
Sfiet_KonstantinDarkSim: XDA is doing work based on existing source or binaries11:46
Sfiet_Konstantinwith no source and binaries, work cannot be done11:46
Sfiet_Konstantinwe can still play with nemo though11:46
Nicd-jake9xx: ok11:48
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Yanielsdk update seems to have gone smoothly on osx12:07
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ericccwindows  os  is bad12:16
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SteveDorriesSo, about how long will it be before we can install Sailfish on a Droid or somesuch other device?12:31
lbtSteveDorries: getting Mer booting and running nemo on such devices will make the answer lower, not higher12:38
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jake9xxYaniel: tnx for reporting. We had some issues with repository caches but they should be ok now12:46
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lollo_heeyoo how much does a jolla phone cost?13:15
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lollo_399€ says the google13:16
lollo_i believe it's right13:16
Yanielthat's the preorder price13:16
lollo_cool. anyone interested on buying a galaxy s3 for 300€??!13:17
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jake9xxHello, just sent: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2013-September/000743.html to give view what changed and what new came along.17:25
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