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| wowdd1 | hi how to download sailfishos source code ? | 02:30 |
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| cxl000 | The base OS is Mer see http://wiki.merproject.org/, Middleware is nemo see http://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo. Sailfish component source not yet released but the SDK is available see http://www.sailfishos.org | 02:42 |
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| wowdd1 | i need to download them one by one ? | 03:14 |
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| wowdd1 | so i can not build sailfish os now? | 03:15 |
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| locusf | is there a way to make the VirtualBox NAT interface to receive data as well? | 08:31 |
| Stskeeps | port forwarding? | 08:31 |
| locusf | hmm yes | 08:31 |
| locusf | but I can't make the QSslSocket to bind to a forwarded port, I guess | 08:32 |
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| locusf | and setLocalPort() is protected.. | 08:40 |
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| locusf | made a subclass but I can still see that the forwarded port is not used | 08:49 |
| lbt | locusf: should be easy with port forwarding - bind to 0.0.0.0:<port> and add NAT as per https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox#Setting_up_and_Networking | 08:49 |
| locusf | connection made from: 10.3.0.240:34514 | 08:49 |
| lbt | you then connect to localhost:XXXX | 08:50 |
| locusf | ah | 08:50 |
| lbt | but!!! | 08:50 |
| lbt | I think the ports are bound to 127.0.0.1 on the host IP | 08:50 |
| lbt | that means you can't connect from another machine | 08:50 |
| locusf | yup | 08:51 |
| lbt | either blank or 0.0.0.0 to make it wide open | 08:51 |
| lbt | it's deliberate so your laptop :2222 isn't open in conferences | 08:51 |
| locusf | or make the networking bridge as the connection | 08:51 |
| lbt | you can do that too but you're more on your own there | 08:52 |
| locusf | I've noticed :) | 08:53 |
| lbt | port-by-port NAT should be the simpler answer | 08:53 |
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| locusf | connection made from: 10.3.0.240:34527 | 08:54 |
| locusf | I can see from wireshark that the server this log is from tries to write data back | 08:54 |
| locusf | but it never makes it to Sailfish emulator in which the QSslSocket is running and listening | 08:55 |
| lbt | roughly what are you doing? | 08:55 |
| locusf | lemme commit and link you the source | 08:55 |
| lbt | what device connecting to emulator | 08:55 |
| lbt | sure - but also an overview | 08:55 |
| jjanvier | hi there ! | 08:56 |
| lbt | morning jjanvier | 08:56 |
| jjanvier | I have a silly question | 08:56 |
| lbt | aren't they all | 08:56 |
| jjanvier | maybe... | 08:56 |
| jjanvier | I've been looking for a real Linux phone for a long time | 08:56 |
| jjanvier | and I've divcovered sailfishos a few weeks days ago | 08:57 |
| lbt | well, you've found the most "linux" one you can get | 08:57 |
| locusf | lbt: https://github.com/locusf/deluge/blob/master/sailfishapplication/delugeclient.cpp | 08:57 |
| jjanvier | but I can't find anything about the apps | 08:57 |
| lbt | locusf: OK | 08:57 |
| locusf | lbt: https://github.com/locusf/deluge/blob/master/qsailfishsocket.h | 08:58 |
| jjanvier | will they all be free and open source ? | 08:58 |
| lbt | locusf: also: what device connecting to emulator ... want to make sure the infra is setup properly | 08:58 |
| lbt | jjanvier: all? 'no' | 08:58 |
| jjanvier | or can the devs sell them on a ·store | 08:58 |
| lbt | jjanvier: yes | 08:58 |
| jjanvier | ok, if I'm a dev | 08:59 |
| jjanvier | and want to make a free app | 08:59 |
| lbt | I also want to explore support selling oss apps on a store - but that's a very complex topic | 08:59 |
| jjanvier | where can I put it ? | 08:59 |
| jjanvier | will it be reviewed ? | 09:00 |
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| lbt | jjanvier: did you ever use meego? | 09:00 |
| jjanvier | sadly no | 09:00 |
| lbt | OK, back then we (the community) developed : http://apps.formeego.org/applications/ | 09:00 |
| jjanvier | too expensive for me at the time :( | 09:00 |
| lbt | this had a community review process | 09:00 |
| lbt | and ran on meego OBS | 09:01 |
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| lbt | we hope the community will do something similar for sailfish (and since I'm in the community I'm pretty sure it will!) | 09:01 |
| jjanvier | ok, thanks | 09:01 |
| jjanvier | it sounds perfect | 09:01 |
| lbt | of course! | 09:01 |
| lbt | oi... locusf: also: what device connecting to emulator ... want to make sure the infra is setup properly | 09:02 |
| locusf | lbt: my server on the 10.3.0.x network | 09:03 |
| locusf | tries to reply to NAT'ed emulator on my 10.3.0.240 machine | 09:04 |
| woweric | @locusf https://github.com/locusf/deluge can run on sialfish? | 09:05 |
| locusf | woweric: yes | 09:06 |
| locusf | woweric: https://github.com/locusf/quicklist also | 09:07 |
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| lbt | locusf: and your NAT screen has name:deluge (or...) protocol:tcp Host IP: blank Host Port: 34527 Guest IP: blank Guest Port: 34527 | 09:08 |
| lbt | and is 34527 fixed? | 09:08 |
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| locusf | lbt: nope, it changes on every connect | 09:09 |
| lbt | locusf: OK - can't use NAT then | 09:10 |
| locusf | connection made from: 10.3.0.240:34499 | 09:10 |
| locusf | yep | 09:10 |
| lbt | this sounds odd | 09:10 |
| lbt | you're saying 'from' | 09:10 |
| locusf | yes | 09:11 |
| locusf | this is from deluge daemon logs | 09:11 |
| locusf | this is 10.3.0.125 | 09:11 |
| lbt | so the from port != to port | 09:12 |
| lbt | what port does your sailfish app listen on? | 09:12 |
| locusf | on nothing, its a qsslsocket client | 09:13 |
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| lbt | OK - so it doesn't listen? it simply makes outbound connections? | 09:13 |
| locusf | yes | 09:14 |
| lbt | so you don't need NAT at all | 09:14 |
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| lbt | the emulator can connect to anything your host can connect to | 09:14 |
| locusf | yep | 09:14 |
| locusf | but can't read data replies from deluge server host | 09:15 |
| lbt | the server log contains "connection made from: 10.3.0.240:34499" | 09:15 |
| lbt | that means the network layer is just fine since you'll need an ACK to have gone back to the emulator | 09:15 |
| locusf | thats not the emulator IP, its the emulator hosts IP | 09:16 |
| lbt | *cough* NAT | 09:16 |
| lbt | the emulator uses NAT to look like the host | 09:17 |
| locusf | yep | 09:17 |
| lbt | so yes, that's the emulator | 09:17 |
| locusf | I probably need some iptables magic | 09:18 |
| lbt | no, you really don't | 09:18 |
| lbt | if your emulator is making TCP connections to a server and uses that connection to transfer data then you're fine | 09:19 |
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| locusf | ok | 09:19 |
| lbt | if the server says "please open port XXXXX and I'll connect back to you" then you're in trouble | 09:19 |
| lbt | some p2p do that | 09:19 |
| locusf | its just that the readyRead() signal is not triggered | 09:19 |
| lbt | are the others? | 09:20 |
| locusf | yes | 09:21 |
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| woweric | @locusf https://github.com/locusf/quicklist it is don`s work | 09:23 |
| lbt | are you sure your code flow is right? line 63 looks like it blocks | 09:23 |
| locusf | it does | 09:23 |
| locusf | and so does 67 | 09:23 |
| woweric | oh mod https://github.com/locusf/quicklist take me 40% cpu use. | 09:25 |
| woweric | oh god | 09:25 |
| locusf | woweric: what are you doing? | 09:25 |
| woweric | i don`t belive . i am checking | 09:26 |
| lbt | locusf: put a Qdebug after line 61 - I think it's your code, not the network setup | 09:26 |
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| lbt | I am 99% sure you're fine without any additional NAT or iptables | 09:27 |
| locusf | I removedd the thread blockers no effect | 09:27 |
| locusf | tbh I have 0 experience in qtmnetworking code | 09:28 |
| Teemuzz | ugh... anyone dare to help me install an rpm through mer... seems to be impossible for me | 09:28 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | Teemuzz: what are you trying to do ? | 09:32 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | what Mer and what RPM ? | 09:32 |
| lbt | locusf: yeah - I'd find some sample code and try that - the point of the debug is to show it's connected | 09:34 |
| Teemuzz | trying to install an app into the sailfish emulator | 09:34 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Teemuzz: which app ? what OS are you running ? | 09:35 |
| Teemuzz | ubuntu, and the ambience changer, cosmetic reasons :l | 09:35 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: what command and error/problem do you have? pastie may help | 09:37 |
| locusf | lbt: ok, will do | 09:37 |
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| Teemuzz | just can't get the file moved into the emulator >.> | 09:37 |
| lbt | locusf: sorry I haven't got more time to drill in | 09:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Teemuzz: ubuntu ? | 09:38 |
| wowdd1_ | hi can sailfishes port to omap ? | 09:38 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: ah | 09:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | ah ok | 09:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Teemuzz: use SCP | 09:38 |
| lbt | scp should work just fine | 09:38 |
| lbt | :) | 09:38 |
| locusf | lbt: sure, np | 09:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wowdd1_: there is mer port to omap | 09:39 |
| woweric | nick /eric | 09:39 |
| lbt | wowdd1_: Mer and Nemo can port to a wide range of devices; sailfish could run on those devices but may well not be ported | 09:39 |
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| wowdd1_ | i need download mer and nemo one bye one if i want download sailfish os? | 09:40 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | wowdd1_: you can create an image | 09:41 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | use mer platform sdk ? | 09:41 |
| lbt | wowdd1_: what are you trying to do? | 09:42 |
| Teemuzz | wow | 09:42 |
| Teemuzz | finally | 09:42 |
| Teemuzz | got connection through terminal | 09:42 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: problems? | 09:42 |
| Teemuzz | no longer any. T_T | 09:43 |
| wowdd1_ | i want download the code complete | 09:43 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: OK good :) - make sure you check the Known Issues page for ubuntu though - it's a bit different | 09:44 |
| lbt | wowdd1_: OK, for code you need to look at Mer and Nemo projects - the open code is there | 09:45 |
| lbt | you can't rebuild sailfish from code | 09:45 |
| wowdd1_ | there are some part code have not open? | 09:45 |
| lbt | yes | 09:45 |
| lbt | some will become open, some won't | 09:46 |
| wowdd1_ | why? | 09:46 |
| lbt | the commercial world we live in :) | 09:46 |
| locusf | lbt: started emulator via br0, still same problems, so my code is the culprit :/ | 09:47 |
| lbt | locusf: yep, I knew that :D | 09:47 |
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| wowdd1_ | the code is not open complete , i also can build sailfish os ? | 09:49 |
| lbt | wowdd1_: no, you can't; sorry | 09:49 |
| lbt | wowdd1_: you can build nemo and mer | 09:49 |
| Teemuzz | "ailed to open a session for the virtual machine SailfishOS Emulator. An unexpected process (PID=0x0000255A) has tried to lock the machine 'SailfishOS Emulator', while only the process started by LaunchVMProcess (PID=0x000003A0) is allowed." | 09:50 |
| Teemuzz | wow | 09:50 |
| Teemuzz | lmao | 09:50 |
| wowdd1_ | but i want build sailfish os | 09:50 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: nice - what did you do | 09:50 |
| Teemuzz | shutdown the sailfish emu | 09:50 |
| Teemuzz | lmao | 09:50 |
| Teemuzz | reboot time >.< | 09:51 |
| lbt | Teemuzz: woah | 09:51 |
| lbt | I'd like to know more | 09:51 |
| lbt | and if you can get me a screenshot that would help | 09:51 |
| Teemuzz | i'm good at F*cking things up | 09:51 |
| Teemuzz | brb | 09:51 |
| lbt | that's what testing is for | 09:51 |
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| lbt | wowdd1_: sorry - the only way to do that is to work for Jolla :D | 09:52 |
| wowdd1_ | are you in jolla? | 09:52 |
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| lbt | yes | 09:52 |
| FabianS | I hope that the next SDK release will include emulator images with some basic smartphone apps. | 09:53 |
| lbt | FabianS: such as? | 09:53 |
| FabianS | Mail client, browser,... | 09:53 |
| wowdd1_ | so sailfish os is not open source project? | 09:53 |
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| FabianS | would be interesting to see notifications and sharing mechanisms | 09:54 |
| Stskeeps | wowdd1_: the UI licensing is still under discussion but a vast majority is code is out there and open | 09:54 |
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| lbt | FabianS: agreed - I can't discuss what's in the next release but we do want to find out what people are missing | 09:55 |
| FabianS | I | 09:55 |
| lbt | FabianS: most of the middleware is there | 09:55 |
| FabianS | Yes, we'll see. | 09:55 |
| FabianS | What I've seen so far in the video demos looked promising | 09:56 |
| mattaustin | Will sailfish handle application settings in a similar way as harmattan (a plugin), or should I integrate settings configuration from within my app? | 09:57 |
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| teemuzz | back | 10:02 |
| teemuzz | now checking if i can get the emulator back up >.> | 10:02 |
| teemuzz | now i can't even start mer | 10:05 |
| teemuzz | wtf | 10:05 |
| teemuzz | weirdly enough, i can start the emulator now | 10:06 |
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| wowdd1_ | how to learn port ? are there some books about that? | 10:08 |
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| teemuzz | Created a new virtual system for mer, now got it working... now just hoping that the sdk sees the sdk | 10:13 |
| teemuzz | ide* sees the sdkj | 10:13 |
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| teemuzz | meh. everything's so broken that i need to reinstall | 10:15 |
| lbt | mattaustin: iirc there was some discussion on the mailing list about that - it may be worth digging up the thread and possibly replying | 10:18 |
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| teemuzz | can't uninstall T___T | 10:23 |
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| teemuzz | damn damn damn | 10:40 |
| teemuzz | a few variables with the emulator | 10:40 |
| mattaustin | lbt: Thanks - will go and have a search! | 10:50 |
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| wildfier | hi everyone ! | 11:15 |
| wildfier | i'm testing the sdk and the emulator | 11:16 |
| wildfier | I was wondering, how do you turn off the phone ? | 11:16 |
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| woweric_ | @Sfiet_Konstantin do you have make some app for sailfish | 11:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | woweric_: mostly experiences i would say | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | like "ambiancechanger" | 11:19 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I'm trying to build a social API in nemo (so Facebook apps, and more ?) | 11:19 |
| woweric_ | so twitter gamegapps? | 11:21 |
| woweric_ | games apps | 11:21 |
| edgars | yo | 11:21 |
| teemuzz | urgh | 11:22 |
| edgars | any manual to get sailfish on N9? :) | 11:23 |
| teemuzz | Sailfish's not released yet | 11:24 |
| FabianS | edgars: There are no ARM images yet. | 11:24 |
| teemuzz | keep calm and wait | 11:24 |
| edgars | oh damn | 11:24 |
| FabianS | I really hope that Sailfish gets at least as good as Meego/Harmattan. | 11:24 |
| FabianS | It kinda has to if Jolla wants to succeed. | 11:24 |
| edgars | and i was thinking about N9 as temp phone | 11:24 |
| dm8tbr | Harmattan is still a very nice phone OS | 11:25 |
| FabianS | edgars: Nothing wrong with Nokia's Meego. | 11:25 |
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| edgars | actually only one problem i see with meego/sailfish | 11:26 |
| edgars | no navigation software | 11:26 |
| FabianS | o.O | 11:26 |
| FabianS | The N9 comes with Nokia Maps preloaded. | 11:26 |
| FabianS | With free worldwide offline maps. | 11:26 |
| petokeksi | runs android software -> use google maps | 11:26 |
| FabianS | And navigation. | 11:26 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | edgars: not yet | 11:26 |
| edgars | FabianS: oudated maps | 11:26 |
| edgars | out | 11:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | rumours says that there will be maps | 11:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | however, we don't know the provider | 11:27 |
| FabianS | Why outdated? | 11:27 |
| FabianS | The N9 was released in 2011. | 11:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, i mean, it is sure that there will be maps | 11:27 |
| dm8tbr | nokia maps material is kept up to date | 11:27 |
| edgars | petokeksi: i do not like a google invasion : | 11:27 |
| FabianS | And the maps are kept up to date. | 11:27 |
| edgars | :/ | 11:27 |
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| mattaustin | edgars: I still get new maps for Australia as downloads on my N9 | 11:27 |
| dm8tbr | use OSM :) | 11:27 |
| FabianS | Nokia still uses them on the Lumia. | 11:27 |
| FabianS | dm8tbr: OSM don't work for navigation. | 11:27 |
| edgars | OSM is not for navigation | 11:28 |
| edgars | :) | 11:28 |
| dm8tbr | FabianS: I've seen some apps with navigation | 11:28 |
| dm8tbr | nothing stellar, but seemed to work | 11:28 |
| FabianS | I've seen apps with navigation too. | 11:28 |
| FabianS | But nothing usable. | 11:28 |
| edgars | i just like my copilot navigation and without it i'm like without hands somewhere abroad :) | 11:28 |
| edgars | mattaustin: thats's good | 11:29 |
| dm8tbr | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.osmand&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsIm5ldC5vc21hbmQiXQ.. | 11:29 |
| FabianS | That's another sad thing about Nokia dropping meego. | 11:29 |
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| FabianS | They have offline maps and great maps software. | 11:29 |
| edgars | maybe i will give a try to used N9 :) | 11:29 |
| FabianS | I wouldn't buy a N9 anymore. | 11:29 |
| woweric_ | nokia map is very good | 11:29 |
| FabianS | The hardware is just too weak by now. | 11:29 |
| FabianS | I wouldn't spend 200€ on a singelcore ARM and a 854x480 display. | 11:30 |
| edgars | why 200? | 11:30 |
| FabianS | Because that's how much it costs in europe. | 11:30 |
| edgars | i'm looking on used one ~100eur | 11:30 |
| FabianS | Used ones are ~150€ in Ger. | 11:30 |
| FabianS | Badly scratched or broken ones maybe <=100 | 11:30 |
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| edgars | hmm | 11:33 |
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| M4rtinK | BTW, navigation - check out modRana :) | 11:45 |
| M4rtinK | already does navigation with spoken directions on Maemo | 11:45 |
| M4rtinK | supports both online and offline routing (on OSM data) | 11:45 |
| FabianS | Great. | 11:46 |
| M4rtinK | and is already running on Nemo Mobile and Harmattan | 11:46 |
| FabianS | Navigation on OSM Data. | 11:46 |
| FabianS | Nobody wants that. | 11:46 |
| M4rtinK | though the GUI does not support all features on these platforms at the moment | 11:46 |
| FabianS | OSM is awesome if you just want maps to find out where you are. | 11:46 |
| FabianS | But it's useless for navigation. | 11:46 |
| M4rtinK | well, my testing shows it to be usable, at least here in Europe | 11:47 |
| M4rtinK | of course, the coverage varies | 11:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: is that serious that modrana does all that :O | 11:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | need to take a look i guess | 11:47 |
| FabianS | But that's exactly what you need for navigation. | 11:47 |
| FabianS | Perfect road coverage. | 11:47 |
| FabianS | Without big errors. | 11:48 |
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| M4rtinK | most of Europe i covered pretty good | 11:48 |
| M4rtinK | *is | 11:48 |
| M4rtinK | Germany has insane amount of detail for example | 11:49 |
| M4rtinK | and a big plus is, you are not dependent on a third party on your data | 11:50 |
| Nicd- | yes you are, the third party is called openstreetmaps | 11:50 |
| M4rtinK | you can just get a OSM data dump and generate it yourself | 11:50 |
| M4rtinK | Nicd-: well, yeah, but it is not the same as eq. Navtec & co | 11:50 |
| M4rtinK | also, the data is often much more up-to-date in regard to new road construction | 11:51 |
| M4rtinK | with new highway stretches showing up in OSM the day they are opened for public | 11:51 |
| M4rtinK | and you can fix mistakes - commercial maps often have bogus data for years and summarily ignore reports from users | 11:52 |
| Nicd- | google just released a map editor though | 11:53 |
| M4rtinK | so that's it - IMHO the best is to try for yourself :) | 11:53 |
| Nicd- | I have to admit OSM is crazy detailed near cities | 11:53 |
| Nicd- | has trails and trees and park benches | 11:53 |
| M4rtinK | well, you can of course help them improve their closed data - if they import it in the end :) | 11:53 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, it really depends on people | 11:54 |
| FabianS | The problem is that roads are not necessarily accurate. | 11:54 |
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| M4rtinK | you can spot where the mappers live like this :) | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | OSM have also quite ok data for hiking | 11:54 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and I love the feature in Marble to get the elevation profile | 11:55 |
| M4rtinK | I have it too in modRana :) | 11:57 |
| valdur55 | M4rtinK: where i can download modRana ? I can't find it in Nokia Sotre | 11:58 |
| M4rtinK | http://modrana.org/images/gui.png | 11:58 |
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| Nicd- | that looks nice | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | does it have turn-by-turn? | 11:58 |
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| M4rtinK | Nicd-: it does | 11:59 |
| M4rtinK | valdur55: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SystemDownloadEN#harmattan | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | I'll have to try that with my N900 | 11:59 |
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| M4rtinK | but please note - there are two GUIs | 12:00 |
| M4rtinK | the original GTK GUI supports all features | 12:00 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: what does the Qt gui ressemble ? | 12:00 |
| M4rtinK | and runns on the N900 | 12:00 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: don't know how it works, but do you have "modules" in ModRana ? | 12:00 |
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| M4rtinK | the new QML GUI does not support everything yet but works on N9 and other devices | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | I would love to write a "conservative" GUI for Harmattan | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or help | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | or to use mapping modules | 12:01 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | do you provide that ? | 12:01 |
| teemuzz | hmh | 12:01 |
| teemuzz | Is there a file select dialogue @ the silica library? | 12:02 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: sure, would be appreciated ! :) | 12:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: no | 12:02 |
| teemuzz | darn | 12:02 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: but would only be compatible to N9 / Sailfish I think | 12:02 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: modRana is actually fully modular - see this for rough description how it works: http://modrana.org/trac/wiki/SystemDevelopmentEN#Structure | 12:02 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | because ... I don't have N900 :( | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | well, I might do some gui stuff with ModRana | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | was searching for an OSM routing app | 12:03 |
| teemuzz | having one would ease developement so much. :L | 12:03 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and thanks you are here ! | 12:03 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: why do you need that ? | 12:03 |
| valdur55 | Is 0.38.1 lastest stable version? | 12:04 |
| teemuzz | making this little 'alarm/stopwatch/notification/timer' thingy | 12:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: sounds promising | 12:04 |
| M4rtinK | that's the latest in Extras, isn't it ? | 12:04 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: so, pick music basically, isn't it ? | 12:05 |
| M4rtinK | well, even the one in Devel should be pretty stable | 12:05 |
| valdur55 | I use rzr-s repo. | 12:05 |
| teemuzz | yeah | 12:05 |
| teemuzz | exactly, tbh :P | 12:05 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: you could either do a completely separate GUI module (modRana supports that) | 12:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: that might help you http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtmobility/gallery.html | 12:05 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: or extend the QML one | 12:05 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | maybe completely separated | 12:06 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: that would be preferable :) | 12:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | will see what i can do though | 12:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not sure that it will even work :P | 12:06 |
| M4rtinK | sure :) | 12:06 |
| teemuzz | Sfiet_Konstantin: haha, thanks :D | 12:06 |
| teemuzz | pretty newbie at this whole mobile developement scene, been at generic java for 3 years | 12:07 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: just ask if you have any questions :) | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | cool :) | 12:07 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: and any help would be much appreciated :) | 12:07 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | i'm very noob in that topic | 12:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | and have other projects (targetting harmattan and sailfish :)) | 12:08 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so ... don't know | 12:08 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: I think there are many interesting possibilities wiht modRana, but I can only do so much :) | 12:08 |
| M4rtinK | *with | 12:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: :) | 12:09 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | that's cool | 12:10 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin is thinking of getting a clone right now | 12:10 | |
| M4rtinK | or just fork it :) | 12:10 |
| teemuzz | Hmmmmmm... Now i'm getting pretty excited | 12:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: about ? | 12:10 |
| M4rtinK | but patches are also fine :) | 12:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yeah | 12:11 |
| teemuzz | well, if i'd make it possible to select either a list, or a gridview | 12:11 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: you can | 12:12 |
| teemuzz | i could use the gridview as an album view, if it supports getting external images... Albumarts :) | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is easy | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: not easy | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | list view is better | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | for selecting a tune | 12:12 |
| teemuzz | But as in, album view, click, shows tracks of albums | 12:12 |
| teemuzz | the tracks of the album* | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hum ... | 12:12 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | don't know what is the best though | 12:13 |
| teemuzz | Got the idea from the music browser example | 12:15 |
| Nicd- | hmm, seems modRana works on my N900 and I'll definitely take it for a drive | 12:16 |
| M4rtinK | good ! :) | 12:16 |
| valdur55 | /opt/modrana/run/ dir should be /opt/modrana/bin dir... | 12:16 |
| M4rtinK | well, there are just some shell scripts | 12:17 |
| Nicd- | but the UI is pretty nonintuitive | 12:17 |
| M4rtinK | could be | 12:18 |
| M4rtinK | also the options menu is needlessly deep | 12:18 |
| M4rtinK | btw, long press of the back button gets you back to map | 12:18 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | Nicd-: that's why I volunteered for a UI refresh | 12:19 |
| * Sfiet_Konstantin is an UI guy | 12:19 | |
| M4rtinK | yeah, I'm not really a designer :) | 12:20 |
| Nicd- | how can I quit navigating? | 12:20 |
| Nicd- | ah, found it | 12:20 |
| Nicd- | looks pretty great for a community-made software | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | yeah, a slick well designed GUI would be nice :) | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | thanks ! :) | 12:21 |
| teemuzz | this is pretty awkward, i really can't make GUIs to PC software, but when doing mobile things i can't do anything else than user interfaces. :l | 12:21 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | teemuzz: :P | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | M4rtinK: it has finnish voices in the menu but does it really have finnish directions? | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | synthesized? | 12:21 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 12:23 |
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| M4rtinK | also if you use online routing | 12:23 |
| M4rtinK | it asks for finish directions | 12:23 |
| M4rtinK | so it should be in finish & spoken with finish voice | 12:23 |
| Nicd- | hehe, I'll have to see if it's as funny sounding as ios maps | 12:24 |
| M4rtinK | could be still a bit quirky sometimes | 12:24 |
| teemuzz | sec, http://i44.tinypic.com/2uji2hf.png <-- shout 2000 being a spacesaver. :L | 12:24 |
| Nicd- | ios maps sounds like it's drunk | 12:24 |
| M4rtinK | well, it is like being guided by Stephen Hawking over the phone :) | 12:24 |
| teemuzz | flipped the options on the alarm type over, seems more logical | 12:25 |
| M4rtinK | understandable but a bit robotic :) | 12:25 |
| Nicd- | teemuzz: btw, if you use imgur, you can link straight to the picture file | 12:25 |
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| Nicd- | M4rtinK: ios maps is a traffic hazard, my wife and I almost died of laughter when we used it | 12:25 |
| M4rtinK | can be improved by installing the mbrola voices though (http://zerties.org/index.php/Mbrola_arm) | 12:26 |
| Nicd- | the synthesied voice was too funny | 12:26 |
| M4rtinK | hh | 12:26 |
| teemuzz | hmm | 12:26 |
| M4rtinK | offline routing directions are not yet translated | 12:26 |
| M4rtinK | I have some translations already on Maemo wiki, but haven't got to integrating them yet | 12:27 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: transifex to the rescue | 12:27 |
| M4rtinK | Sfiet_Konstantin: thats why it is taking so long :) | 12:28 |
| M4rtinK | I want to convert it to pot or something other Transifex compatible | 12:28 |
| M4rtinK | and make modRana read it from there | 12:29 |
| M4rtinK | BTW, I'm already using Transifex for my second project, the Mieru manga & comic book reader: https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/mieru/ | 12:29 |
| M4rtinK | with nice results :) | 12:29 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | :) | 12:31 |
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| M4rtinK | ale the QML UI should be easy to translate as well | 12:31 |
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| M4rtinK | the classic GTK one - not as much | 12:32 |
| M4rtinK | its code being born from necessity and lack of other technologies at the moment is quite interesting :) | 12:32 |
| M4rtinK | it is basically a single Cairo widget and everything is drawn with Cairo | 12:33 |
| M4rtinK | with full screen redraw | 12:33 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | M4rtinK: D: | 12:37 |
| teemuzz | file:///usr/lib/qt4/imports/Sailfish/Silica/SilicaFlickable.qml:48: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: listView | 12:38 |
| teemuzz | hmm | 12:38 |
| teemuzz | wierd | 12:38 |
| teemuzz | well, looks like i need to change into listview | 12:39 |
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| Teemuzz | I'm back! (Again...) | 13:16 |
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| woweric_ | welcome | 13:23 |
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| Teemuzz | i never remember... scroll wheel freezes the emulator | 13:28 |
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| locusf | my emulator screeches when I use my quicklist app on the pull down menu | 13:32 |
| locusf | the sound starts to loop | 13:32 |
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| woweric_ | you and change it | 13:40 |
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| woweric | @locusf quicklist how i can add one menu? | 14:06 |
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| locusf | woweric: ? | 14:08 |
| woweric | i use yu code | 14:08 |
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| woweric | how can i add one item | 14:11 |
| woweric | i push the button and print some number, and then? | 14:12 |
| locusf | press enter on virtual keyboard | 14:15 |
| locusf | Object::connect: No such signal QSslSocket::peerVerifyError(QSslError&) in sailfishapplication/delugeclient.cpp:19 | 14:19 |
| locusf | Object::connect: No such signal QSslSocket::sslErrors(QList<QSslError>&) in sailfishapplication/delugeclient.cpp:20 | 14:19 |
| locusf | well that explains something ... | 14:19 |
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| locusf | lbt: its about SSL errors, my app not working | 14:23 |
| locusf | SSL errors: ("The certificate is self-signed, and untrusted") | 14:23 |
| lbt | hehe | 14:23 |
| locusf | although I told the socket to ignore all and every error | 14:23 |
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| teemuzz | eya :) | 14:24 |
| lbt | locusf: that's an ssl layer issue though | 14:26 |
| Jonni | locusf: you can get rig of ssl errors with this 3 liner http://pastebin.com/hdAQRQga | 14:29 |
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| Jonni | that way it doesnt do any verification and self signed works | 14:30 |
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| teemuzz | damn you nokia. D: cutting down my connection every no wand then | 14:30 |
| teemuzz | now* and | 14:30 |
| locusf | Jonni: thanks ! | 14:31 |
| locusf | Jonni: still get the errors :/ | 14:32 |
| locusf | _pSocket->setPeerVerifyMode(QSslSocket::VerifyNone); | 14:32 |
| locusf | I already had that | 14:32 |
| Jonni | and you've set that mode before you created the connection? I usually put that 3 liner in beginning of main, before doing anything else. | 14:34 |
| locusf | hmm not | 14:35 |
| locusf | put it to main, still SSL ERROR: "The certificate is self-signed, and untrusted" | 14:36 |
| Jonni | wierd then your having some other issues, as for me that 3 liner always work and havent needed to set anything else in the whole application. | 14:36 |
| locusf | it seems so | 14:37 |
| Jonni | maybe you should then try adding your cert with addCaCertificate to the application so it would be trusted | 14:40 |
| locusf | server cert? | 14:40 |
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| locusf | lbt: wasn't ssl either | 14:56 |
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| teemuzz | hmm | 15:09 |
| teemuzz | i might have a problem :P | 15:10 |
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| teemuzz | https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/983667_400636886716923_2051345749_n.jpg anyone know what's the matter? | 15:29 |
| teemuzz | i have a clue, yet idk how to fix it | 15:29 |
| teemuzz | nvm, just need a proper way of fixing it without hardcoding | 15:31 |
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| teemuzz | centering textswitch? | 16:39 |
| teemuzz | anyone? | 16:39 |
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| Stskeeps | not sure it'd work on emulator | 19:31 |
| itbaron | ok. I get some GStreamer errors when i try it | 19:31 |
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