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| triggerhappy | Question: i know the sailfish emulator is run through virtualbox, but would it be possible to emulate sailfish through xen? I managed to convert the image to a raw format that can be booted but it always hangs at a certain point during the boot sequence | 07:40 |
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| Yaniel | triggerhappy: theorethically I think it should work | 08:42 |
| triggerhappy | yeah, and from what I can tell, I may have missed some VM settings | 08:43 |
| triggerhappy | http://imgur.com/EFGAlEp this is what I always get | 08:44 |
| dm8tbr | triggerhappy: are you using the right kernel? | 08:48 |
| dm8tbr | the messages look like the kernel doesn't understand the FS, which would be weird | 08:48 |
| kontio_ | or the kernel wants to mount a partition which is not really root | 08:49 |
| dm8tbr | also did you make the virtual drive SATA or some sort of virt-io? | 08:49 |
| triggerhappy | on the kernel, i'm whatever came with the sailfishos.vdi in ~/SailfishOS/emulator | 08:49 |
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| dm8tbr | yes, if his config makes the drive virtio or PATA, then sda might be something completely different or inexistent | 08:50 |
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| triggerhappy | heh, the disk bus is listed as IDE | 08:51 |
| dm8tbr | *badumtsh* | 08:51 |
| triggerhappy | ah hell, libvirt has no sata option =_=, I'm going to have to look into going command line using xl if ever | 08:54 |
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| lbt | triggerhappy: the sdk vdi has virtualbox modules | 08:57 |
| triggerhappy | so it's meant to run only on virtualbox? | 08:58 |
| lbt | are you using paravirt? | 08:58 |
| lbt | that image is, yes | 08:58 |
| lbt | you may be able to make it work on xen by rebuilding the kernel | 08:59 |
| lbt | and loading xen virtio modules | 08:59 |
| triggerhappy | i'm using hvm for the sailfish image | 08:59 |
| lbt | so have you run it under vbox? | 08:59 |
| triggerhappy | haven't tried yet since I've got a couple of other VMs running atm. And I can't run vbox while using the xen kernel. | 09:01 |
| triggerhappy | i'm planning to try it on vbox itself when I get the chance to shut down the VMs, but right now they're being utilized | 09:01 |
| lbt | yeah - then take a peek at the modules etc - you should be able to mount the vdi and see what modules you need | 09:01 |
| lbt | you may find it easier to play with the SDK VM | 09:02 |
| lbt | that's buildable in the open | 09:02 |
| lbt | https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox | 09:02 |
| lbt | https://img.merproject.org/images/mer-sdk/ | 09:03 |
| lbt | especially the ks for the vm | 09:04 |
| triggerhappy | well, I do intend to do my development using the provided virtualbox VM. I just went with the xen route since i'm in a position where I can't boot the non-xen kernel on my machine at the moment | 09:05 |
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| lbt | I know the feeling - I use xen on one server and kvm on my desktop | 09:06 |
| lbt | so I need to shut down all the kvm to do vbox work :/ | 09:06 |
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| triggerhappy | why do I get this feeling that if enough people end up in the same situation, we might just end up seeing an opensource meta-hypervisor to rule them all | 09:08 |
| lbt | *g* or at least not stomping on each others toes | 09:08 |
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| triggerhappy | i dream of the day | 09:13 |
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| Sandor | hi all | 11:13 |
| Sandor | maybe it's a bad question, but.. will the sailfish available somehow on n9? it would be great to test applications on this device | 11:14 |
| Nicd- | not officially but the community can port it | 11:17 |
| Naranek | yeah, so it will probably be available somehow, like you said :) | 11:18 |
| Sandor | sounds great.. when will be available the OS for the public? | 11:19 |
| Nicd- | there's no date announced yet | 11:19 |
| Sandor | maybe the same as the phone's date? | 11:20 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Once the SDK is out, with an ARM target, or the Jolla device is out, which ever happens first will most likely be when the N9/50 will get it | 11:25 |
| MFaro-Tusino | unless the N950 image is provided by Jolla to devs (Highly unlikely) | 11:25 |
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| Sandor | thank you for the answers | 11:29 |
| MFaro-Tusino | Note though: N9/50 will not be officially supported in any way by Jolla. They will be community ports and thus you are responsible for anything you do, and any damage or legal ramifications that occur. | 11:31 |
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| Sandor | of course, as any other unofficial OS on n9.. I hope that doesn't mean if I upload an other OS once (and try it out for a week) doesn't mean that I lost all my guarantee even if I restore the original state of the phone | 11:33 |
| MFaro-Tusino | It may void warranty, so do be aware (not just Sailish, but any third-party OS) | 11:34 |
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| Sandor | thx | 11:35 |
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| Sandor | I should go now. Have a nice day all to you | 12:02 |
| Sandor | bye | 12:02 |
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| Sandor | hi all (again)! | 15:06 |
| Sandor | does anybody knows what kind of browser will supported by the OS? | 15:06 |
| Nicd- | I'd assume all browsers that write a port for it :) | 15:09 |
| Nicd- | but I heard the stock browser uses gecko | 15:09 |
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| Sandor | interesting choice | 15:18 |
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| GeneralAntilles | I hope it's Gecko. | 15:25 |
| GeneralAntilles | MicroB is still the best mobile browser I've used despite its warts. | 15:25 |
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| planasb | So you all preordering Jolla phone ? | 18:05 |
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| Nicd- | don't know about everyone but I sure did | 18:07 |
| planasb | Nicd-: cool | 18:07 |
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| Sandor | My girlfriend thinking about it. A release date could help, because she don't want to wait until christmas | 18:11 |
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