| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: Not really... We need an admin to swap the bot on the TG side | 05:32 |
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| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche : try to ping then on TG side... | 05:33 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: We did... I pinged eetu (Telegram) and Frank S pinged 'admin'. According to locusf eetu (Telegram) is the person with this kind of permissions | 05:37 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Telegram -> Matrix seems to work though... | 05:37 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | @DylanVanAssche Sorry, I was afk yesterday. Should I kick the other telegram-matrix bot? | 05:44 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | eetu (Telegram): No problem 🙂 Yes please, the t2bot.io one while adding mine | 05:45 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | Should I promote other guys as admins? now only me and Topias are admins | 05:45 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | @DylanVanAssche What permissions your bot should have? | 05:46 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | eetu (Telegram): My bot should be able to read messages and send stuff. Not sure which permissions are available there in groups. I configured its permissions via BotFather already | 05:47 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | Ok grIeat. I haven't been following this space for a month(except pull requests), have anything huge happened? :) | 05:49 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Qt 5.12 builds :D | 05:49 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | Nice! with OBS? | 05:50 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | I think so, Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram) did amazing things :) | 05:51 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: Bot should be up now | 05:51 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | Awesome!! 😊 I got 5.13 (or 5.14) to build with openembedded, if I recall correctly there was not much to change 5.12->5.13. | 05:52 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Ah and rinigus was looking into a way to benefit from Plasma Mobile apps and such. With a Nemo look, but app compatible :) | 05:53 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <eetuTelegram[m]1 "Nice! with OBS?"> Yeap | 06:00 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <eetuTelegram[m]1 "Awesome!! 😊 I got 5.13 (or 5.14"> I remove from asteroid lipstick statefs things. | 06:01 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | <SergeyChupliginT "I remove from asteroid lipstick "> Ooh super! | 06:03 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <eetuTelegram[m]1 "Ooh super!"> In mer git. My lipstick fork. Branch nemo | 06:04 |
| eetuTelegram[m]1 | <DylanVanAssche_ "Ah and rinigus was looking into "> Thats cool, how pure maps have native feel on different platforms is done so well | 06:04 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: thank you very much! | 07:18 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: Your messages aren't coming through yet. | 07:22 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | I contacted the bridge developer, maybe I forgot something | 07:22 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: thanks a lot for letting me know. keep us updated :) | 07:23 |
| * PureTryOut[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/VqFfqzvDsFhrZYANnrDsElhM > | 07:29 | |
| DylanVanAssche_ | PureTryOut: hmmmm I only have myself there | 07:29 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Well there is your problem | 07:30 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Add `"*": "relaybot"` | 07:30 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Otherwise the Matrix users don't have the permissions needed | 07:30 |
| PureTryOut[m] | `relaybot` means they can only talk via the relaybot and don't have access to commands | 07:30 |
| SergeyChupliginT | @eekkelund obs here https://build.merproject.org/project/subprojects/home:neochapay:mer:release:2020.05 | 07:32 |
| SergeyChupliginT | @eekkelund http://img.nemomobile.net/2020.05/ targets sdk and etc | 07:32 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | PureTryOut: Done 🙂 Now we need a Matrix user to send something... rinigus ? | 07:38 |
| PureTryOut[m] | What about me? 😃 | 07:38 |
| rinigus | ping | 07:38 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Oh yeah that's also possible :D | 07:39 |
| PureTryOut[m] | So, did it work? 😛 | 07:39 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | It works ;) | 07:40 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Yes 🙂 Now we have finally a bridge :D | 07:41 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | * Yes 🙂 Now we have finally the bridge running :) | 07:41 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Awesome 👍️ | 07:46 |
| rinigus | Thank you very much, let's get back to Nemo discussion... | 07:52 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: regarding "not liking plasma". After going through Plasma QML style and reading on how to theme them, I am convinced that it is possible to shape the look into what has been proposed as "Nemo look" before. It may require some changes and implementing separate QQC2/Kirigami style for some elements, but I am sure it's possible. Let's say I am keeping the future time investment into this as | 07:53 |
| rinigus | on my side. | 07:53 |
| rinigus | As for using Nemo-specific QML controls, those can be used as well. We can mix when needed, use Nemo controls to make styling of QQC2 as well, when possible. | 07:53 |
| rinigus | Daily reminder: please make a repository and make it pinned for general Nemo issues. For example, the absence of email client and how to approach it. | 07:53 |
| SergeyChupliginT | can anyone get me /etc/group file from latest sfos | 08:14 |
| BirdZhangTelegra | <SergeyChupliginT "can anyone get me /etc/group fil"> https://pastebin.com/GHnQpC7E | 08:16 |
| SergeyChupliginT | thanks | 08:19 |
| SergeyChupliginT | oh i can pin/unpin repos | 08:33 |
| SergeyChupliginT | Maybe locusf or faenil or sledges make me onwer ? | 08:35 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <BirdZhangTelegra "https://pastebin.com/GHnQpC7E"> can show me /etc/bluetooth/jolla.conf | 08:54 |
| BirdZhangTelegra | <SergeyChupliginT "can show me /etc/bluetooth/jolla"> [root@RedmiK20 ~]# cat /etc/bluetooth/jolla.conf | 08:54 |
| * SergeyChupliginT uploaded an image: image.jpeg (140KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/dylanvanassche.be/roniFYJXkFxuQIQgVVoCQTSy > | 11:05 | |
| SergeyChupliginT | keyboard is fixed | 11:06 |
| SergeyChupliginT | last issue - boosters start false | 11:27 |
| SergeyChupliginT | * last issue - boosters start fail | 11:27 |
| PureTryOut[m] | This is on Qt 5.12? | 11:35 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): with the keyboard - that's not maliit but qtvirtualkeyboard, right? | 11:35 |
| SergeyChupliginT | Yeap | 11:36 |
| SergeyChupliginT | yes on 5.12 | 11:36 |
| rinigus | (assuming that 'Yeap' was for qtvirtualkeyboard), what was the issue with maliit? | 11:37 |
| rinigus | :) | 11:37 |
| SergeyChupliginT | yeap qtvitualkeyboard yeap 5.12 ^_^ | 11:38 |
| SergeyChupliginT | qtvitualkeyboard support by qt mallit not | 11:39 |
| SergeyChupliginT | i think will be better use upstream components on this side | 11:39 |
| rinigus | well, we have experience with making text predictions working on maliit. not with qtvirtualkeyboard. did maliit crash? in flatpak, I have small component incorporated into maliit and that works with qt 5.12/5.14 | 11:41 |
| rinigus | in flatpak environment that is used by sailfish flatpak-runner. so the code of that component is on qt 5.14 side | 11:41 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Plasma Mobile (also a Qt environment and DE) actually wants (maybe already uses on KDE Neon) Maliit, so it shouldn't be a Qt limitation | 11:43 |
| SergeyChupliginT | i love maliit but i not have time to maintine it | 11:43 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): fair enough. one more issue I'd write down, to keep in mind (maliit). | 11:47 |
| rinigus | PureTryOut: do you know why they want to switch to maliit? | 11:47 |
| PureTryOut[m] | More extensible? I don't know to be honest, you'll have to ask on #plasmamobile:kde.org | 11:47 |
| rinigus | thanks, will do | 11:52 |
| SergeyChupliginT | What you think about drop old qt support ? | 11:54 |
| SergeyChupliginT | now we have 2 compositor qml | 11:54 |
| SergeyChupliginT | old and new | 11:54 |
| SergeyChupliginT | and it not good | 11:55 |
| ChrisTelegram[m7 | <SergeyChupliginT "What you think about drop old qt"> 👍 | 11:57 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): you mean qtwayland compositor? dropping old sounds a way to go | 12:11 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <rinigus "Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Teleg"> https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/tree/qt5.12/src/qml two files compositor and compositor_new | 12:13 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): those are quite different - from the first glance on the diff. you guys should know better... which is used? you can always restore later as well in future | 12:19 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Yes drop it please | 12:25 |
| rinigus | from the source looks like you use _new on newer qt. so, should be ok to drop then | 12:28 |
| SergeyChupliginT | yea but i must change 2 files if i change behavior of compoitor | 12:34 |
| SergeyChupliginT | Example: in old compositor control center is work. in new - is broken | 12:34 |
| SergeyChupliginT | And YEA! I HATE VIRTUAL KEYBOARD | 12:34 |
| SergeyChupliginT | maybe i will not sleep some weeks and drop it from components | 12:35 |
| SergeyChupliginT | hehe | 12:35 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): I'll ask about maliit later today from plasma mobile folks. as there are several versions of maliit moving around (sailfish, ubports, upstream), would be interesting to know which they use. and what are the issues preventing the switch | 12:42 |
| SergeyChupliginT | https://github.com/sailfish-keyboard/sailfishos-presage-predictor looks here | 12:44 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): yes, we will have to write something that is between presage lib in that repo and maliit. current plugin was for sailfish version | 12:46 |
| SergeyChupliginT | shaders effect not work...strande | 13:13 |
| SergeyChupliginT | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/qtquickcontrols-nemo/blob/master/src/controls/qml/NemoIcon.qml#L38 not work | 13:14 |
| mattTelegram[m] | > <@dylanvanassche:dylanvanassche.be> rinigus: I like your approach, sharing apps among OSes is the way to go. | 14:42 |
| mattTelegram[m] | > If they can have a native look, that would be great :) | 14:42 |
| mattTelegram[m] | +1 | 14:42 |
| SergeyChupliginT | if i start glacier-settings without lipstick icon work | 15:12 |
| SergeyChupliginT | If i start glacier-setting with lipstick icon broken...wtf.... | 15:12 |
| SergeyChupliginT | okay o found problem.... | 15:57 |
| SergeyChupliginT | lipstick start | 15:57 |
| * SergeyChupliginT sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/zKEJhQNnuVlCQSprKAyHyJpx > | 15:58 | |
| SergeyChupliginT | app start | 15:58 |
| * SergeyChupliginT sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/gjqLQDJoCJNKAYBnfNgnQuza > | 15:58 | |
| SergeyChupliginT | it's first problem | 15:58 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin (Telegram): they changed hidpi handling during several qt updates. even qt5.14 still has some issues (webengine specifically). for flatpaks, I think I set scale factor to 1 and just set QT_WAYLAND_FORCE_DPI to the real screen dpi | 16:46 |
| rinigus | not sure if it helps | 16:46 |
| rinigus | as far as I remember, plasma mobile had some other settings... | 16:47 |
| rinigus | re maliit and plasma mobile: sounds like the main issue is compositor not supporting maliit protocols. something that nemo should have covered. they were planning to use maliit2 https://github.com/maliit/keyboard . info I found from the logs | 16:55 |
| rinigus | matt & Dylan Van Assche: as far as I understand, nemo's 'native' look is somewhat in a flux. so it can be shaped as well | 18:08 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Yeah indeed | 18:09 |
| SergeyChupliginT | no | 18:18 |
| mattTelegram[m] | <SergeyChupliginT "no"> Is this due to qt upgrade or to silica being proprietary? | 18:52 |
| mattTelegram[m] | <rinigus "matt & Dylan Van Assche: as far "> What do you mean for somewhat in a flux? | 18:52 |
| SergeyChupliginT | <mattTelegram[m] "Is this due to qt upgrade or to "> Qt upgrade and silica property | 18:53 |
| SergeyChupliginT | Proprietary | 18:53 |
| rinigus | <mattTelegram[m] "What do you mean for somewhat in"> > | 19:14 |
| PureTryOut[m] | <JoeHTelegram[m] "Do sailfish apps run on nemo?"> Note that if you install Glacier on an existing SailfishOS installation, you _can_ run SailfishOS apps. It won't look good though | 21:26 |
| PureTryOut[m] | Well yes of course | 21:27 |
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