| rinigus | Yes, and now just got Sergey's replies. Great we have those instant messages platforms working hand in hand | 06:09 |
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| rinigus | <SergeyChupligin7 "We have https://bugs.nemomobile."> Exactly. That's why let's get issues at GitHub. We use something like https://github.com/sailfishos-sony-tama/main for ports. That way users and developers can easily get access to issues | 06:13 |
| rinigus | <SergeyChupligin7 "But i will try fix it. But old v"> Maybe it's time to make a break and not use sfos apps at all. That's why I wanted to see what's missing on Nemo and how to fix it. By using kirigami/qqc2 we can work together with plasma devs and fill the gaps faster | 06:22 |
| rinigus | Alternative would be to have new qt in some other path than the default one. /opt/qt5.12 for example and then start linking all to that. I don't think you can have the same path for two at versions | 06:25 |
| rinigus | <AndreaBernabeifa "Sure. We need a general customer"> In a sense. Also having discussions regarding components that we miss: email and such | 06:35 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: compatibility with SFOS in terms of installing nemo is nice, but then you probably do have to start putting qt512 somewhere else. not sure how to resolve it otherwise | 09:17 |
| *** rinigus62 is now known as rinigus-i | 09:25 | |
| rinigus | it still looks like matrix.org has issues with this room. not sure its overloading of matrix.org in general, as I don't have any of these issues on other rooms. obviously, it does hinder working together ... | 09:28 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: I agree. SFOS will catch up eventually and will join 5.12 as well. the images can be made for nemomobile using the same scripts as we have for sfos. I would suggest to outline the missing pieces and work on them. for me its email/calendar/contacts that are needed before I can switch on device. please make a repository where we can file the issues and discuss how to address them. | 11:54 |
| rinigus | with the plan in hand, would be possible to work on it | 11:55 |
| rinigus | (it helps to install telegram and have an eye on a room) | 11:55 |
| rinigus | those who are responsible for matrix / irc / telegram bridge. please fix it - currently even IRC does not have anything from telegram | 11:56 |
| rinigus | when compared with freenode channels (sailfishos and sailfishos-porters), nemomobile on matrix and irc is a disaster | 11:57 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: I will look a little bit more into styling with plasma and then start looking into email. | 11:58 |
| rinigus | plan is to figure out what's missing and then ask plasma mobile folks to work on the solution that will work for nemo and plasma | 11:58 |
| rinigus | but we would need a place to write specs down and discuss. as https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/issues or https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/main | 11:59 |
| SergeyChupligin7 | I don't like plasma. Why not use own controls? | 12:05 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | <rinigus "those who are responsible for ma"> It's the t2bot.io public bridge AFAIK, that bridge is heavily overloaded ... | 12:05 |
| rinigus | Sergey Игоревич Chupligin: you have to be more specific in "I don't like plasma". do you mean API or looks? if you mean looks, its pretty much not important as the looks could be adjusted. not using own controls is simple - we can develop together the same apps with plasma mobile team. and anything using qqc2/kirigami will run native on nemo then | 12:10 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: it could be overloaded bot. on other channels the bots seem to work correctly. maybe we can change the bot . ohhh, look, miracle - irc log is showing telegram people | 12:11 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: https://t2bot.io/telegram/ the notice on top :) | 12:12 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: awesome. and where I am gonna find that other server? I would expect most will use matrix.org though, wouldn't they? | 12:14 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: privacytools.io, feneas.org, ... However, I'm willing to bridge this room from Telegram to Matrix. I run my own bridges. | 12:15 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Since my server is only used by me, I don't have the issue that t2bot.io is having: too much traffic between them and matrix.org | 12:15 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: that would be helpful if you could organize a bridge. do you have the rights to make it work? | 12:16 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: I need to have some rights to kick the current bridge and invite mine. I think locusf is managing the current bridge? | 12:17 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: Also, I'm willing to do this but can't guarantee uptime and such. This runs from a server at my home without UPS or any failover | 12:18 |
| locusf | yeah I can give the current bridge a boot | 12:19 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: as it is, it seems to be failing for anyone on matrix.org and has serious gaps on irc. I'd vote for it :) | 12:20 |
| rinigus | on sailfishos-porters, we have a bridge by Thaodan , I think (judging by url in Chinese adds). as he is in this room as well, maybe he can help if needed as a backup... if you start getting issues with your server | 12:23 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: ^ | 12:23 |
| locusf | we just ditched that bridge in favor of the current one | 12:24 |
| rinigus | locusf: I see. :) | 12:24 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | locusf: May I kick the bridge and invite mine? | 12:27 |
| locusf | go ahead, thats why I got you to be the moderator :) | 12:28 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | 🙂 I don't think I can kick the bridge with mod rights 🙂 | 12:28 |
| locusf | telegram side you need to consult eekkelund | 12:28 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | I mean this Matrix user: @telegram:t2bot.io | 12:29 |
| locusf | yeah I know you got moderator rights now | 12:29 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg help | 12:29 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:29 |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **This is a portal room**: you must always prefix commands with `!tg`. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- Management commands will not be bridged. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- #### General | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **cancel** - Cancel an ongoing action. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **version** - Get the bridge version. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **help** - Show this help message. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- #### Authentication | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **ping** - Check if you're logged into Telegram. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **ping-bot** - Get the info of the message relay Telegram bot. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- #### Creating portals | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **bridge** [_id_] - Bridge the current Matrix room to the Telegram chat with the given ID. The ID must be the prefixed version that you get with the `/id` command of the Telegram-side bot. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- #### Portal management | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **config** <`help`|_subcommand_> [...] - View or change per-portal settings. | 12:32 | |
| -TelegramBridge[m- **delete-portal** - Remove all users from the current portal room and forget the portal. Only works for group chats; to delete a private chat portal, simply leave the room. | 12:32 | |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg help | 12:33 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:33 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg unbridge | 12:34 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:34 |
| -TelegramBridge[m- Please confirm unbridging chat "Nemo" from room [#telegram_NemoMobile:t2bot.io](https://matrix.to/#/!OIJguaKcLstrPfzqPo:disroot.org) by typing `!tg confirm-unbridge` | 12:34 | |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg confirm-unbridge | 12:34 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:34 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg help | 12:35 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:35 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg help | 12:36 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:36 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg bridge NemoMobile | 12:36 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:36 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | id | 12:37 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg id | 12:37 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:37 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg bridge -1001100341174 | 12:39 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:39 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg delete-and-continue | 12:40 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:40 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Seems that the bridge bot is syncing, a moment please :) | 12:43 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg sync | 12:45 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:45 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg id | 12:45 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:45 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Matrix -> telegram test | 12:45 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus locusf Bridge runs fine now 🙂 Let me know if it improves the situation :) | 12:45 |
| locusf | thank you! | 12:45 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | My apologies for all the setup messages :D | 12:45 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: thank you very much for it! | 12:45 |
| -Telegrambridge25- Synchronization complete. | 12:46 | |
| -Telegrambridge25- This room is bridged to Telegram chat ID `-1001100341174`. | 12:46 | |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: locusf You're welcome :) | 12:46 |
| rinigus | test message from matrix side | 12:52 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: Your message takes a long time to arrive on Telegram again, even though it's not routed through t2bot. | 12:54 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | I can see my messages directly in the Nemo room though on Telegram | 12:54 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | !tg sync-state | 12:54 |
| merbot` | DylanVanAssche_: Error: "tg" is not a valid command. | 12:54 |
| -Telegrambridge25- Synchronization complete | 12:54 | |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: my messages earlier seemed to go through fast from matrix->telegram. its just I was getting replies 8 hours later | 12:55 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Hmmm mine are in the group but not from others... | 12:55 |
| rinigus | looks like locusf message from mtrx->tlgrm was missed as well | 12:56 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Yes, but I don't see my bridge bot in the Telegram room... | 12:59 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: does your bot know how to add 2+2? | 12:59 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Not really... It's a Telegram bot, like Shieldy normally | 12:59 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: unfortunately, don't know much about these bots internals and the sides of it either. maybe someone can help to debug the issue | 13:05 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Ah I found it in the Telegram docs, I need to create a Telegram bot first, I used this bridge only for myself so I didn't need it until now :) | 13:05 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | rinigus: I have a bot running now, but I need someone with permissions on the Telegram side to add my bot: @matrix_telegram_dva_bot to the NemoMobile room | 13:17 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | And kick the other one ofc | 13:18 |
| DylanVanAsscheTe | @eekkelund Do you have permissions to kick the Telegram bot from t2bot.io and add mine? @matrix_telegram_dva_bot | 13:19 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Frank S (Telegram): Aha your message comes through... | 13:29 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Yeah we need an admin here :) | 13:29 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Frank S (Telegram): How does that work on Telegram? | 13:30 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | Thanks"! | 13:31 |
| DylanVanAssche_ | * Thanks! | 13:31 |
| rinigus | Dylan Van Assche: no news regarding your bot? | 18:10 |
| *** jrt is now known as Guest96887 | 19:40 | |
| -ShieldyTelegram[- (6 + 10) @joeth, please, send the solution to the arithmetic operation provided within the time amount specified to this group, otherwise you will be kicked. Thank you! (240 sec) | 19:52 | |
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