| r0kk3rz | yeah but then you get these compromises that always comes with for-profit things | 00:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | imo contributions come first, delusions of grandeur come later | 00:13 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @r0kk3rz [yeah but then you get these compromises that a …], I think we could make a great team just give us the chance | 01:09 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> They could give us the opportunity and not close | 01:10 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> https://elpais.com/economia/2019/05/19/actualidad/1558294622_546268.amp.html | 01:10 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> The reason why we do not trust Android, sorry the news is in Spanish | 01:10 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Huawei will not be able to use the Google Android anymore for the ban made in the Trump administration | 01:11 |
| r0kk3rz | you can do whatever you want without any foundation stuff | 01:12 |
| r0kk3rz | it will be interesting to see what huawei do, but all major manufacturers have a plan b for android | 01:14 |
| r0kk3rz | not so long ago there was things being done for sailfish in chinese market | 01:15 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @r0kk3rz [you can do whatever you want without any found …], We know it but the idea is not to fragment the ecosystem anymore | 01:17 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Something that free software has always had is that these cases where the community does not speak things somo that react or shoot without talking without knowing | 01:18 |
| r0kk3rz | you dont need to fragment anything | 01:19 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Not been the first community leader to ask | 01:19 |
| r0kk3rz | you dont have to fork it unless you want to | 01:19 |
| r0kk3rz | but you seem to want to transfer the ownership of nemo to your foundation, which i dont think everyone will agree to | 01:20 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> All have opined at the level of judging or seeing the cons none to spoken objectively | 01:20 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Several have said create a foundation Nemo | 01:21 |
| r0kk3rz | who? | 01:21 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> And yet the community is pronounced | 01:21 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @eekkelund [Me, as community member, I don't see any benef …], ..... | 01:21 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @Ponchale [.....], Here | 01:21 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @DibyaXP [As long as nemo foundation will be open and n …], Here | 01:22 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> The same community does not think about the creation of a Nemo foundation | 01:23 |
| r0kk3rz | what would be involved with that? | 01:24 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> And I put the example of Canonical and had long ago which responded that the paradigms of free software | 01:24 |
| T4 | <birdzhang> @r0kk3rz [not so long ago there was things being done fo …], really? idk this is a good or bad news for us in china | 01:24 |
| r0kk3rz | if you want to make a structure and start contributing to nemo, you can do that | 01:25 |
| r0kk3rz | @birdzhang, yeah it was a while ago though, not sure if anything came of it | 01:25 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Thanks to the community | 01:26 |
| r0kk3rz | @birdzhang eg https://www.hgunified.com/home/sailfish-china-implementation-phase.html | 01:28 |
| r0kk3rz | there also was huawei mer fork they did a while go, no idea whether that went anywhere either | 01:29 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> I think it doesn't make sense to join a foundation just for doing so | 05:39 |
| r0kk3rz | indeed | 05:40 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> Also, decision making should be something of people who actively contribute | 05:41 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> Not like me (: | 05:41 |
| T4 | <neochapay> I contribute :)))) | 05:42 |
| r0kk3rz | so what say you @neochapay ? | 05:42 |
| T4 | <neochapay> About what? | 05:43 |
| r0kk3rz | this foundation stuff | 05:43 |
| T4 | <neochapay> I don't know...if it will attract new people - why not | 05:44 |
| T4 | <neochapay> Ok one question what change if we create some foundation? | 05:45 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> This article … https://www.astian.org/es/2019/05/19/astian-se-une-mer-y-nemo-mobile/ … states in the title that Mer and Nemo Mobile join Astian, but the body just says there are conversations about the topic | 05:46 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @Chipiguay [This article … https://www.astian.org/es/2019/05 …], Blocked in Russia :) | 05:47 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> My thought are that there is no point if there is no clear benefit, right? | 05:47 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> I can copy into a file if you want. It's in Spanish | 05:48 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> (Document) https://af42kgggd3mfqvgy.tor2web.io/Wz1o8djxGR.pdf | 05:48 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @Chipiguay [I can copy into a file if you want. It's in Sp …], My English is bad my Spanish...no i not understand Spanish :) | 05:49 |
| r0kk3rz | well mer wont be doing anything of the sort | 05:49 |
| r0kk3rz | because mer is now part of sailfish | 05:49 |
| T4 | <neochapay> Not all :) on this week i make my version of mer release :) | 05:50 |
| r0kk3rz | neochapay-core, not mer-core :P | 05:52 |
| T4 | <Chipiguay> Guys, how did you do in previous occasions to make a decision? | 05:54 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay … No foundation or corporation crap please . … I don't believe anyone after what happened to Cyanogen . … To all Artisans people , … You can contribute anything you like to main code base . … Look at code aurora forum , Qualcomm contribute for free and help everyone like us without any foundation and stuff . you can still do | 05:56 |
| T4 | nate and help nemo for free like providing hosting , maintaining relationship with companies etc , … Don't mind I am just sceptical about your intentions . … I don't believe my own business partners and co worker's … https://github.com/nemomobile … https://github.com/nemomobile-ux | 05:56 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @r0kk3rz [neochapay-core, not mer-core :P], Best idea | 05:56 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @r0kk3rz [neochapay-core, not mer-core :P], Mer-core neochapay edition hehe | 05:57 |
| locusf | hmm im gone for a month and things go pear-shape | 05:57 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay [Mer-core neochapay edition hehe], Sounds awesome . … Is their new GCC? | 05:57 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @locusf [hmm im gone for a month and things go pear-sha …], Shakespeare's style | 05:58 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @DibyaXP [@neochapay … No foundation or corporation crap …], Oh...donate...hehe :) i make code for nemo over 2 years and get only 5$ donation :)))) | 05:58 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @DibyaXP [Sounds awesome . … Is their new GCC?], I have mer2 repo in obs with gcc6 | 05:59 |
| r0kk3rz | locusf: no pears, just lots of noise to annoy neochapay | 06:01 |
| T4 | <neochapay> hehe | 06:30 |
| *** mord is now known as Guest74328 | 08:03 | |
| T4 | <deedend> @Ponchale [We know it but the idea is not to fragment the …], I guess you could always work on a fork, and bring back to the main project all the contributions and improvements that you do in your version... | 08:27 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @deedend [I guess you could always work on a fork, and b …], For fragment ecosystem we must in first create ecosystem haha | 08:27 |
| r0kk3rz | eh, rule #1 of open source is dont worry about fragmentation | 08:28 |
| -Github[m]- https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/1 : Proper closing button and black toolbar. | 08:29 | |
| T4 | <deedend> @r0kk3rz [because mer is now part of sailfish], Oh, right! | 08:29 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Ok community thanks | 10:16 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Again rejected but good | 10:49 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @Ponchale [Again rejected but good], Reject of ? | 10:51 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> reject of proposal to join Astian Foundation | 10:52 |
| T4 | <toxip> Isn't Astian OS that one fork of Firefox OS? what do you guys have to do with Nemo mobile= | 11:05 |
| T4 | <toxip> [Edit] Isn't Astian OS that one fork of Firefox OS? what do you guys have to do with Nemo mobile? | 11:05 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @toxip [Isn't Astian OS that one fork of Firefox OS? w …], We're thinking ahead | 11:10 |
| T4 | <toxip> whatever that means | 11:11 |
| T4 | <toxip> How is Astian OS anyways | 11:11 |
| T4 | <toxip> last time I heard was when we were talking about collaboration on Halium | 11:11 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @toxip [last time I heard was when we were talking abo …], Yes Topias I remember you | 11:12 |
| T4 | <toxip> you could use some communications person to translate stuff to English since it's difficult to find info about you in English | 11:13 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> We are working to bring all information from us to English | 11:14 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> Topias you were the leader of Halium right? | 11:14 |
| T4 | <toxip> @eekkelund [Me, as community member, I don't see any benef …], I like the sound of Nemo foundation though :) | 11:19 |
| T4 | <toxip> @Ponchale [Topias you were the leader of Halium right?], not really a leader but I was with them when we were setting things up | 11:20 |
| T4 | <toxip> these days I have hardly anything to do with them | 11:20 |
| T4 | <toxip> my contribution to halium was very little... they still use the icons I made though | 11:22 |
| T4 | <neochapay> If somebody get money on servers and full-time programmers it will be great | 11:23 |
| T4 | <akaWolf> ofc | 11:23 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @toxip [not really a leader but I was with them when w …], And what happened? | 11:24 |
| T4 | <Ponchale> @toxip [these days I have hardly anything to do with t …], Why? | 11:24 |
| T4 | <toxip> @Ponchale [And what happened?], well, I haven't really contributed since. I have been busy with my thesis and stuff so I don't have time for that | 11:25 |
| T4 | <toxip> I was mainly helping them with talks with guys like you and Jolla | 11:25 |
| T4 | <toxip> Halium has certainly made a lot of progress though | 11:26 |
| T4 | <toxip> @Ponchale [And what happened?], I guess life happened xD | 11:26 |
| T4 | <toxip> @neochapay [Oh...donate...hehe :) i make code for nemo ove …], where can I donate? I can donate another 5$ to you, poor guy :D | 11:32 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://neochapay.ru/ - "ПОДДЕРЖАТЬ МЕНЯ" ^_^ | 11:33 |
| T4 | <toxip> how do I get past the Russian hieroglyphs :D | 11:33 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @toxip [how do I get past the Russian hieroglyphs :D], https://www.paypal.me/neochapay | 11:34 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay … Your website is pain in ass because I don't know Russian . … Please give a direct link to PayPal | 11:34 |
| T4 | <toxip> thanks :P | 11:34 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay [https://www.paypal.me/neochapay], Thanks | 11:34 |
| T4 | <neochapay> @DibyaXP [@neochapay … Your website is pain in ass becaus …], Lern russians! ^_^ Becouse Pushkin and Brodsky best guys ^_^ | 11:35 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay [Lern russians! ^_^ Becouse Pushkin and Brodsky …], Okay command accepted | 11:36 |
| T4 | <toxip> okay, now you can say you got 10$ in donations | 11:36 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Russian sound's bit like pre vedic Sanskrit language | 11:37 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @toxip [okay, now you can say you got 10$ in donations], More is coming just wait for my co worker's | 11:37 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtMd6PbscwE | 11:37 |
| T4 | <toxip> maybe should use bountysource | 11:37 |
| T4 | <neochapay> weeeeeeee i got 5$ ^_^ | 11:45 |
| T4 | <toxip> you're welcome :D | 11:45 |
| T4 | <neochapay> I can fill my enduro and break my arm....or leg ^_^ | 11:46 |
| T4 | <toxip> I think it'd be better if I could contribute to Nemo directly and that money could be divided based on commits/lines of code or something... | 11:46 |
| T4 | <toxip> @neochapay [I can fill my enduro and break my arm....or le …], don't ask for more money! I didn't pay to break an arm or leg :D | 11:47 |
| T4 | <toxip> stay safe bro :D | 11:47 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay [I can fill my enduro and break my arm....or le …], Hey don't harm yourself | 11:47 |
| T4 | <toxip> will ask money back if you do 😂 | 11:48 |
| T4 | <neochapay> (Photo, 1280x563) https://af42kgggd3mfqvgy.tor2web.io/5S9azk6N7g.png | 11:48 |
| T4 | <neochapay> https://youtu.be/fPX31sJjW8Y | 11:51 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @neochapay it looks gorgeous . … I didn't know you love biking . … Please stay safe | 11:55 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> Wish you with my best wishes | 11:55 |
| T4 | <toxip> Maybe nemo should have a patreon? | 11:59 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @toxip [Maybe nemo should have a patreon?], Good idea but it has many tax related stuffs | 11:59 |
| T4 | <toxip> yeah... | 11:59 |
| T4 | <toxip> but need to also make it independent so that same thing doesn't happen like with Solus | 12:00 |
| T4 | <toxip> the main dev left and only he had access to that... | 12:02 |
| T4 | <toxip> to their patreon I mean | 12:03 |
| T4 | <DibyaXP> @toxip [but need to also make it independent so that s …], You are right | 12:03 |
| locusf | https://www.npr.org/2019/05/20/724910121/after-trump-ban-huawei-phones-will-lose-access-to-google-software | 12:54 |
| locusf | thanks trump for making nemo relevant again! :))) | 12:54 |
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| T4 | <deedend> Anyone has been at the Volla community days last weekend? | 21:40 |
| r0kk3rz | i think nokius and eekkelund were there | 23:00 |
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