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| Ponchale | hi people | 02:36 |
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| Ponchale | have thought about what communicates a few hours ago? | 02:37 |
| vgrade | Ponchale: \o, most folks are sleeping | 02:54 |
| Ponchale | Wow ok sorry | 02:57 |
| locusf | well some :) | 03:09 |
| locusf | I just woke up :p | 03:09 |
| vgrade | locusf: morning | 03:11 |
| vgrade | time for my bed, nn | 03:11 |
| locusf | vgrade: morning | 03:11 |
| locusf | Ponchale: so yes, we have those experimental images tbr was talking about, for nexus 5 at least | 03:28 |
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| Ponchale | locusf | 03:28 |
| locusf | http://images.devaamo.fi/nemo/hammerhead/nemo-mer-hammerhead-devel.zip | 03:30 |
| locusf | from december 5 | 03:30 |
| Ponchale | Please if they agree to advise how we might do something that benefits you | 03:30 |
| locusf | oh sorry, I was thinking the other way around :) | 03:33 |
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| locusf | currently our efforts are lined out as starting to develop a "stable" image for a known phone model which has good hardware adaptation support | 03:34 |
| locusf | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2015-03-08.log.html#t2015-03-08T15:50:17 | 03:35 |
| locusf | our head designer gave us this roadmap a couple of weeks ago | 03:35 |
| locusf | homescreen complementary applications is already there but it needs better support for "dual-booting" homescreen on the Jolla device | 03:36 |
| Ponchale | we could develop a stable version in joint | 03:36 |
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| locusf | sdk is huge task as we currently don't have any | 03:37 |
| Ponchale | code already taking full code where it is attached mer nemo and ux | 03:37 |
| locusf | reference android device could be hammerhead as its the "officially" supported Android running SailfishOS device, it gains updates to its adaptation code from Jolla | 03:38 |
| locusf | tablet move is also quite far to the future, but we have a good start on the galaxy tab 2 | 03:39 |
| locusf | sorry for being too verbose here, just airing my ideas that have been brewing :) | 03:41 |
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| Ponchale | locuf we have the ability to mount the app store both technical as knowledge and all | 03:43 |
| Ponchale | cloud services among others, we may support nemo bringing the terminals locusf | 03:46 |
| locusf | well app store and cloud services are a little out of scope for us | 03:48 |
| Ponchale | we have our OpenStack cloud also collaborated with them in Colombia are an innovative company and the market is increasingly noting | 03:48 |
| locusf | we are somewhat indie and our apps only exist in repositories | 03:48 |
| Ponchale | and have the contacts for talks with companies of mobile phones | 03:50 |
| Ponchale | example Claro, Movistar, Tigo, including first in Latin America | 03:51 |
| locusf | yes | 03:56 |
| Ponchale | We can similarly improve the architecture to prevent users from damaging equipment as meego architecture is based on user levels which could be a problem if not all well parameterized obviously well planned | 04:00 |
| Ponchale | Please locusf comparteme the information, if it's light available where Nemo already attached encounters MER and UX we do our planning and improvements we share and contribute in code and as founder and director of development would manage also an economic support project | 04:03 |
| Ponchale | if they see necessary we could sign a partnership agreement but ethically support open source and therefore would not be necessary because keeping my word but if they see necessary to do what we would do without much problem | 04:04 |
| locusf | sorry, I can't make such decisions on behalf of the entire Nemo project :) | 04:10 |
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| Ponchale | Please locusf comparteme the information, if it's light available where Nemo already attached encounters MER and UX we do our planning and improvements we share and contribute in code | 04:12 |
| Ponchale | I locusf you can share that information? | 04:15 |
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| locusf | well homescreen is the first target for contributions | 04:17 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home | 04:19 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-dialer <- another | 04:20 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo <- most important of them all | 04:20 |
| Ponchale | sound funny but because the technical part as IDE open the projects etc etc | 04:21 |
| Ponchale | where we find? | 04:21 |
| locusf | well you can use sailfish sdk | 04:21 |
| Ponchale | subsequently to the screen to be more continuing integration with the core where the core encontamos Nemo and Mer? | 04:23 |
| locusf | sorry I don't understand? | 04:24 |
| locusf | encontamos? | 04:25 |
| Ponchale | after modification of the Home screen where we find the core of Nemo and Mer and integrate that home screen them and all is information is to be taking all information and put it on our servers for Monday start planning | 04:26 |
| locusf | ah | 04:28 |
| locusf | you need to move that fast | 04:28 |
| locusf | well first stop is https://build.merproject.org/ | 04:29 |
| locusf | I'll give you a kickstart file which you can use for n9 | 04:29 |
| locusf | hmm | 04:30 |
| Ponchale | if all you need to move fast because since we know where to start with the sdk sail is modified and starts with the home screen, but after that following? | 04:30 |
| locusf | or do you want n5 to test with? | 04:30 |
| locusf | well to integrate it all together and boot something you need the kickstart file | 04:30 |
| Ponchale | ok thanks | 04:30 |
| locusf | I just need your target hardware to make it real | 04:31 |
| Ponchale | us in the coming days we get about 200 terminals including N9 N900 N950 Nexus 4 and Nexus 7 we could send 100 to the community | 04:31 |
| locusf | wow ok | 04:33 |
| locusf | I don't have a nexus 4 to test with | 04:34 |
| locusf | and currently no environment to set up a nexus 4 device building | 04:34 |
| Ponchale | approximately two weeks have the locusf terminals when you say we want to help and contribute seriously, if they wish locusf you give me the address where they should arrive and reach that destination | 04:35 |
| locusf | as I said, I can't make such decisions myself on the communitys behalf :/ sorry | 04:37 |
| Ponchale | good courtesy and by way of thanks we can send you a terminal if desired | 04:39 |
| Ponchale | if you do not mind locusf please send me you need for nokia range, N9 N900 and N950 | 04:41 |
| Ponchale | I'm already seeing the code of the home screen | 04:41 |
| locusf | https://raw.githubusercontent.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks | 04:43 |
| locusf | thats what you can use for n9/50 | 04:46 |
| Ponchale | will be a long night hahahaha | 04:47 |
| locusf | heheh :) | 04:48 |
| Ponchale | Provide me your email locusf and thus remain in direct communication | 04:51 |
| Ponchale | if you want us as we report the changes you and your those you report to the community | 04:52 |
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| faenil | woah, productive night eh locusf? =) | 10:26 |
| faenil | good morning people | 10:26 |
| locusf | faenil: to say the least :) | 10:26 |
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| lbt | so .. patterns on Mer OBS | 10:59 |
| lbt | I'm in a position to look at that for a bit - any projects need them ? | 10:59 |
| lbt | locusf: faenil ^^ | 10:59 |
| faenil | well, we have to recreate all the patterns for nemo | 11:00 |
| faenil | lbt: morning :) | 11:00 |
| lbt | morning :) | 11:00 |
| locusf | yeah good morning :) | 11:00 |
| locusf | I wonder if the old patterns still work as they are now cross repos | 11:01 |
| lbt | yep - lets pick one and see if I can get the automation going again | 11:01 |
| faenil | lbt: but don't we have to wait for the merge to be finished before this? | 11:01 |
| lbt | no | 11:01 |
| faenil | mmm ok | 11:01 |
| locusf | well the packages are already merged | 11:02 |
| lbt | this is simply the machinery | 11:02 |
| faenil | locusf: yeah there are packages missing in mer-core:devel, but yeah | 11:02 |
| lbt | if you have nothing needing it atm then I'll have to go make some test rpm and such | 11:02 |
| faenil | well, the ideal as locusf says is take the old patterns and just transfer them | 11:03 |
| lbt | so I need a project which has a patterns rpm being built in it ... :) | 11:03 |
| faenil | I don't remember how patterns work...don't know where to send you :/ | 11:04 |
| faenil | nemo:devel:mw? | 11:04 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:ux/patterns-nemo-ux | 11:04 |
| faenil | thanks | 11:05 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-patterns/blob/patterns-ux/nemo-ux-wayland.yaml | 11:05 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-patterns/tree/patterns-mw | 11:05 |
| lbt | locusf: ty | 11:05 |
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| locusf | lbt: are those patterns enough now or should we do the hw adaptation ones as well? | 11:39 |
| lbt | that's enough | 11:39 |
| locusf | ok | 11:39 |
| lbt | I need to get one working :) | 11:39 |
| lbt | it's been well over a year since I've looked at automation | 11:40 |
| lbt | and even longer since I've looked at pattern side (if ever) | 11:40 |
| piggz | its a quiet day ... may aswell charge the N9 and see how SF runs on it | 11:43 |
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| locusf | I've been helping Ponchale out for 7 hours now | 12:11 |
| locusf | he now knows how to build packages and images | 12:11 |
| locusf | out of a mer sdk vm in windows | 12:11 |
| locusf | had to really start from the ground up | 12:11 |
| locusf | good thing is he documented it, we could have a wiki contribution coming | 12:12 |
| faenil | :) | 12:12 |
| faenil | cool stuff | 12:13 |
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| uuhimhere | locusf, is it in english? | 12:31 |
| locusf | uuhimhere: lets hope so | 12:31 |
| tigeli | I doubt it is | 12:32 |
| * tbr agrees with tigeli | 12:33 | |
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| locusf | okay might be yes | 12:38 |
| locusf | oh well, didn't want him to feel discouraged either | 12:41 |
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| uuhimhere | locusf, so why is he targetting nokias | 12:51 |
| tbr | I'm still a bit unsure about his actual motive | 12:51 |
| locusf | uuhimhere: not entirely sure | 12:51 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, could be a regional fluke not unlike what the megadrive/genesis is to brazil | 12:52 |
| uuhimhere | http://kotaku.com/5039226/brazil-keeping-mega-drive-dream-alive | 12:54 |
| locusf | uuhimhere: hmm | 12:59 |
| uuhimhere | either that or he hijacked a container full of unsold nokias destined to recycling,... | 12:59 |
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| locusf | well that or skmething else, he was extremely motivated on getting my help and tried to understand everything I did | 13:03 |
| locusf | or told him to do | 13:03 |
| locusf | in my luck this is just probably an elaborate scam :p | 13:03 |
| faenil | guys, please... | 13:04 |
| faenil | let's just...ok? | 13:04 |
| locusf | yeah yeah I know, but I've given him the benefit of a doubt and gladly helped him :) | 13:05 |
| faenil | so, let's not throw stones now, let's just wait and give people a chance | 13:05 |
| faenil | that doesn't mean keeping our eyes closed, for those wondering | 13:06 |
| locusf | yes | 13:06 |
| * tbr is happy to help, just would like to understand better why he's doing it | 13:06 | |
| tbr | there is sadly much lost in translation | 13:06 |
| tbr | mmmm, now I'm craving a Suntory Whisky. ;-) | 13:07 |
| uuhimhere | maybe he's just bored? | 13:07 |
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| locusf | I have the reason from private chat but I don't want to disclose it | 13:10 |
| uuhimhere | locusf, then why bring it up | 13:10 |
| locusf | its essentially business oriented stuff | 13:10 |
| uuhimhere | i see | 13:10 |
| tbr | locusf: that's enough to know for me | 13:11 |
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| tbr | Also I think it wouldn't hurt him to pursue the jolla avenue. They will come around eventually. | 13:13 |
| tigeli | would probably make things much more easier for him | 13:16 |
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| tigeli | but I'm not a business person | 13:16 |
| tbr | ofc it's a trade off between many factors | 13:17 |
| tbr | even if he doesn't go the sailfish route it could be beneficial for mer/nemo/sailfish, more vendors, shared load | 13:18 |
| tigeli | sure | 13:19 |
| faenil | well, he said he tried contacting jolla, let's see if jolla can react quick enough :D | 13:32 |
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| tbr | faenil: I think he was told that he's in the general MWC queue and will be contacted. From what I saw he seems to be in too much of a hurry to wait, for some reason. Or just has unreasonable expectations. | 13:52 |
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