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| locusf | plfiorini: yep it works now, just missed vgrades qtwaylamd patch | 03:09 |
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| plfiorini | locusf, link? | 06:00 |
| locusf | plfiorini: | 06:01 |
| locusf | I can't paste today | 06:01 |
| locusf | home:vgrade:RaspberryPi/qtwayland | 06:01 |
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| plfiorini | ahm | 06:03 |
| plfiorini | locusf, the fixeglfs patch? | 06:03 |
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| locusf | plfiorini: hmm wait a moment | 06:04 |
| locusf | https://github.com/locusf/qtbase-1/commit/789ad2d275033ae388e200c805e30a1446d43a1b | 06:07 |
| locusf | YAY I CAN PASTE AGAIN | 06:07 |
| plfiorini | locusf, thanks i'll take a look with Pi 1 | 06:11 |
| locusf | plfiorini: okay, I still gotta test why eglfs won't display on piscreen, only using fbcp works | 06:16 |
| locusf | ah well seems its not even possible | 06:17 |
| locusf | since its SPI framebuffer and doesn't have anything to do with GPU | 06:17 |
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| faenil | silver_hook: nice post! :) | 08:55 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | raspguys good morning | 09:38 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I want say raspberry no more .... and i booked the armv7 one :-D | 09:38 |
| tbr | it took them a few years to grow up | 09:40 |
| dr_gogeta86 | tbr, just for collecting | 09:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | :-D | 09:43 |
| tbr | by now I'd prefer an ARMv8 board | 09:43 |
| tbr | I'm not sure if I'll spring for the hikey though. | 09:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for sure on server side | 09:44 |
| tbr | no | 09:45 |
| tbr | in general | 09:45 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | tbr, is possible download locally a branched/linked project from obs ? | 10:05 |
| tbr | dr_gogeta86: "obs co"? | 10:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | get just _service | 10:11 |
| tbr | err osc | 10:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is a tar_git | 10:11 |
| tbr | aah | 10:11 |
| tbr | so you mean the result of the hooks | 10:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 10:11 |
| tbr | there are options: osc help co | 10:15 |
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| phaeron | dr_gogeta86: osc up -S | 10:29 |
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| locusf | oh yeah hey all | 10:32 |
| locusf | minnowboard rootfs is ready for testing in a few hours | 10:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi locusf | 10:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | tnx phaeron | 10:33 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'll add it to wiki | 10:33 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: hey | 10:33 |
| phaeron | why is wiki better than osc --help :) | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | screen isn't your friend for scrolling | 10:37 |
| dr_gogeta86 | even worse when you use an html5 terminal | 10:38 |
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| faenil | locusf: so, if I were to buy a devboard, is minnowboard the best thing to adte? | 10:39 |
| faenil | date | 10:39 |
| tbr | faenil: depends™, what do you want to do? | 10:43 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah it depends, its mostly oshw afaik? | 10:45 |
| faenil | I don't know :D | 10:45 |
| faenil | have fun, hehe | 10:45 |
| locusf | again minnowboard would essntially add another "desktop" target for us, other is rpi2 | 10:49 |
| tbr | it is a nice board. it's amd64. but it's not meant as a desktop. it's an embedded board. | 10:49 |
| tbr | makes sense if you also want to play with hardware that connects to it | 10:49 |
| tbr | if you just want something that runs intel and plugs into hdmi then there are those intel compute stick things | 10:51 |
| locusf | yeah thats why I said "desktop" :) since I didn't know of a better expression | 10:51 |
| tbr | I have the Calamari board for my minnowmax | 10:51 |
| locusf | what hardware is there for minnowboard? | 10:51 |
| tbr | hat has an low speed and an hi-speed port | 10:52 |
| tbr | the lowspeed port can be interfaced directly | 10:52 |
| tbr | the calamari is sort of a demo thing. it's got a few leds (gpio) and an ADC | 10:53 |
| locusf | are you good with low-level interfacing faenil? | 10:56 |
| faenil | locusf: not out of the box :D | 10:57 |
| faenil | I'm still in the "learn what's needed, and fix" :) | 10:57 |
| locusf | yeah me too :) | 10:57 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:dr_gogeta86:branches:nemo:devel:hw:x86:x86-common/kbuild | 12:54 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: yes? | 12:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | built | 12:55 |
| locusf | great | 12:56 |
| tbr | faenil: what's nice about the minnowmax is: open UEFI bootloader (some blobs apply), alternatively coreboot, almost same SoC as the Jolla tablet. Trivial to "reflash" by inserting a new µSD card. | 12:58 |
| tbr | also you can reflash the UEFI if you have a 1.8V SPI adaptor | 12:58 |
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| faenil | ok | 13:00 |
| faenil | but not video output,iiuc | 13:00 |
| tbr | HDMI | 13:00 |
| faenil | oh, I had not seen it | 13:00 |
| faenil | then how is it worse than a more desktop-y board? | 13:00 |
| tbr | it's perfect for tinkering | 13:00 |
| tbr | it has a serial header where you can directly plug in an "FTDI" adaptor (3.3V) | 13:01 |
| faenil | how is "worse"? :) | 13:02 |
| faenil | is it* | 13:02 |
| tbr | if one doesn't need /all/ that, then there are probably products like that MeeGo (sic!) HDMI stick thta cost less | 13:02 |
| faenil | ah ok | 13:02 |
| faenil | so just a matter of cost | 13:02 |
| tbr | sort of | 13:02 |
| tbr | it's a lovely design, and conforms to OSHW requirements | 13:03 |
| faenil | :) | 13:03 |
| tbr | it makes most sense if you are going to utilize its capabilities | 13:03 |
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| tbr | if someone would just have it as a "XBMC" thingy, that would work perfectly too, but might be a bit undershooting its capabilities | 13:04 |
| faenil | yea, ok ;) | 13:04 |
| faenil | no I would use it to tinker, I want to learn more about tinkering with hw, and, eventually, use it as kind of xbmc when needed | 13:05 |
| faenil | so that sounds cool | 13:05 |
| tbr | for embedded work it's awesome as you don't need to screw around with things, but can simply plug into the serial header and get kernel console and a getty | 13:05 |
| faenil | nod | 13:05 |
| locusf | I finally got my raspi2 for tinkering, all my other 2 pi's are workhorses doing other stuff | 13:05 |
| faenil | locusf: yea rpi2 is an alternative | 13:06 |
| faenil | iiuc | 13:06 |
| tbr | more like work-ponies ;) | 13:06 |
| faenil | hahaha | 13:06 |
| tbr | rpi2 still smells because of VC4 | 13:06 |
| locusf | I just need to get a serial modem gsm board for sim900 tests | 13:06 |
| tbr | minnowmax is virtually blob-free and has open source gpu drivers | 13:06 |
| faenil | yeah that's a pity, why did they keep it :/ | 13:07 |
| faenil | as in, why didn't they improve the gpu as well | 13:07 |
| tbr | because broadcom doesn't have an open source friendly alternative | 13:07 |
| faenil | mmm | 13:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | tbr, vc4 is still used in phones | 13:07 |
| locusf | ah so its all broadcom, makes sense | 13:07 |
| faenil | dr_gogeta86: yes but it's old now.. | 13:07 |
| tbr | dr_gogeta86: bcm in phones is dead | 13:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | bcm sometimes is even worse then qcom | 13:08 |
| tbr | the alternatives would be: SGX or Mali | 13:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you sai | 13:08 |
| tbr | both suck | 13:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | you say | 13:08 |
| tbr | yes I say | 13:08 |
| tbr | broadcom exited the mobile soc market | 13:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | newer low end android from sammy use bcm again | 13:08 |
| tbr | ofc there are old products, but there won't be anything new from them | 13:08 |
| tbr | they had a whole line of socs ready to rock but chose to junk them and fire all people | 13:09 |
| dr_gogeta86 | as usual :-D | 13:09 |
| tbr | it was like with OMAP4 | 13:09 |
| tbr | (or OMAP5, which got cancelled and reprised sort of as JACINTO 6) | 13:10 |
| locusf | oh yeah ti | 13:10 |
| tbr | Panda5 was apparently ready to go | 13:11 |
| tbr | later it showed up as the Jacinto6 UEVM | 13:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | locusf even this | 13:23 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/home:dr_gogeta86:branches:nemo:devel:hw:x86:x86-common/virtualbox | 13:24 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: fantastic! | 13:24 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: now we can finally have a vm image | 13:25 |
| faenil | can you sum up what happened ? :) | 13:25 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | faenil, i've just messed up with obs :-D | 13:27 |
| faenil | :) | 13:28 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've just updated kBuild and virtualbox | 13:28 |
| faenil | what was the issue | 13:29 |
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| locusf | too old virtualbox | 13:32 |
| locusf | for the vm | 13:32 |
| locusf | but dr_gogeta86 says the new virtualbox works now | 13:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is time to create image | 13:32 |
| faenil | mm | 13:37 |
| locusf | gah the minnowboard image is 3.6G | 13:39 |
| locusf | tbr: is it too large for images.devaamo? | 13:39 |
| tbr | 3.6G after compression? WTH | 13:40 |
| tbr | there's plenty of space though | 13:40 |
| tbr | so yeah, feel free to upload it | 13:40 |
| tbr | I'd look into why it's so huge though | 13:40 |
| locusf | oh yeah compression :p | 13:41 |
| tbr | :-þ | 13:44 |
| locusf | 514M compressed wow | 13:49 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, did push request to nemomobile-packages for virtualbox | 14:18 |
| locusf | dr_gogeta86: ok good | 14:32 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | locusf, also kbuild | 14:51 |
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| locusf | tbr: hmm all my symlinks still point to sfa, theres also the minnowboard directory I'd like, if possible? :) | 16:14 |
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| tbr | sec | 16:16 |
| tbr | locusf: there is now a nemo/minnowmax and a sfa/minnowmax | 16:19 |
| locusf | tbr: okay thank you | 16:19 |
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| tbr | minnowmax as the original minnowboard was a very different thing and it's better to be clear which one this is about | 16:20 |
| locusf | yes indeed | 16:22 |
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| locusf | now just to wait if it boots | 16:32 |
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| locusf | tbr: if you want, you could give it a spin too, given if you got time for it right now? | 16:49 |
| tbr | locusf: I was just waiting for you to say that you uploaded an image. | 16:50 |
| locusf | tbr: oh okay :) its done now yes | 16:50 |
| tbr | locusf: took the liberty to chmod 644 the file was 640 | 16:51 |
| tbr | makes downloading easier | 16:51 |
| locusf | tbr: ah, forgot that | 16:52 |
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| locusf | oh yes the rootfs partition is expressed in uuid | 17:02 |
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| locusf | tbr: hows it going? | 17:46 |
| tbr | sorry, was busy, just need to inflate the image and copy it to the card | 17:47 |
| locusf | oh no problem | 17:49 |
| tbr | at least the card is reasonably fast, it sustains around 10MiB/s write | 17:51 |
| locusf | class 10? | 17:54 |
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| tbr | probably | 17:56 |
| tbr | 3759144960 bytes (3.8 GB) copied, 411.621 s, 9.1 MB/s | 17:56 |
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| tbr | locusf: UEFI says "Error loading \vmlinuz-3.18.6-1.3.1: Unsupported | 18:03 |
| locusf | tbr: yeah thats qhat I got as well | 18:04 |
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| tbr | I'm getting some sort of tizen boot menu though, so something is working | 18:04 |
| locusf | I wonder what in it is unsupported, its a zimage linux kernel | 18:04 |
| locusf | yeah I just used that as base | 18:05 |
| locusf | try another entry | 18:05 |
| tbr | is it 64bit or 32bit? | 18:05 |
| locusf | 64bit | 18:05 |
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| tbr | should work™ | 18:07 |
| tbr | locusf: tried asking in #minnowboard yet? | 18:08 |
| locusf | tbr: nope, not yet | 18:08 |
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| locusf | did you try other options in the menu? | 18:33 |
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| gogeta | locusf, vm image wip | 18:36 |
| locusf | gogeta: ok good to hear | 18:36 |
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| gogeta | locusf, 4.3.22 is out :-( | 18:46 |
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| gogeta | oh yea | 18:48 |
| gogeta | like a sharm out the box | 18:48 |
| gogeta | http://pastebin.com/Hq7SqwqW | 18:49 |
| gogeta | guys this is for you | 18:49 |
| gogeta | some mce problems btw | 18:50 |
| spiiroin | gogeta: mce problems? | 18:52 |
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| vgrade | locusf: you may need CONFIG_EFI_STUB | 19:07 |
| locusf | vgrade: that + it was 32-bit compiled kernel | 19:08 |
| locusf | well ok I didn't add EFI_STUB but anyways | 19:08 |
| vgrade | uefi is a new world for me, 32/64 UEFI stubs etc. Have a windows 8 tablet which has uefi | 19:10 |
| vgrade | intel-ia android only comes with images which are supported by 64bit uefi so had to do a bit of digging aroud that recently | 19:12 |
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| faenil | yo filippz o/ | 19:17 |
| filippz | ^wow that wasy quick :) | 19:17 |
| locusf | heeeyyy filippz :) | 19:17 |
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| faenil | :) | 19:17 |
| filippz | I see you are both in a good mood :) | 19:17 |
| faenil | can't complain :) | 19:19 |
| filippz | faenil, locusf: what's on the agenda - or I'll just freestyle and find something interesting to fix? | 19:20 |
| faenil | my agenda is beat Stskeeps until I get more info about the merge | 19:21 |
| locusf | yup and I gotta support the Minnowboard agenda till the 1 March | 19:21 |
| faenil | alternative agenda includes fixing n950 wifi (and audio) | 19:21 |
| faenil | I want this mess to end :( and start building glacier again... | 19:22 |
| faenil | fix webhooks, fix repos...fix wiki, fix docs | 19:22 |
| filippz | can't beats Stskeeps - I'm too far away, also I don't own N950 or Minnowboard, so that's not doable too | 19:22 |
| locusf | the dialer needs some testing other from me | 19:24 |
| locusf | but there is this pesky pr still pending on it | 19:25 |
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| gogeta | spiiroin, fake touch works till lockscreen appers | 19:44 |
| gogeta | mcetool -d / -u disabled needed | 19:46 |
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