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locusfhmm qwazix's contraption works wonders, I'm really glad I got it now :)05:51
locusfI just need scripting aid on doing videos about Nemo05:51
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dr_gogeta86faenil, which version of ubiboot do you have ?09:52
dr_gogeta86mine n9 sometimes goes in bootloop when battery is under 4%09:52
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faenilmm10:09
dr_gogeta86btw10:10
dr_gogeta86let's fix wifi on glacier10:10
faenilwhat do you mean?10:11
dr_gogeta86wifi scan and crash10:11
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faenilVenemo: hola10:28
Venemoheyy10:29
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faenilStskeeps: I'm giving irssi a second chance :P13:30
Stskeepsgood13:30
faenilI hate it that I can't just scroll users list13:30
Stskeeps /names13:30
Stskeeps:P13:30
Stskeepsand learn to use tab completion13:30
faenilyes I use tab completion...13:31
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tbrfaenil: there are all sorts of scripts that you might want to look at13:46
tbrfaenil: also obviously you MUST want to run the irssi push notification script for sailfish. ;-þ13:46
* tbr is happy to help13:47
Stskeepsi should put irssi notifications in my ears..13:47
faeniltbr: I'm trying to get a freaking readable layout :P same as xchat, which is so cool13:47
faenilI'm using xchat "theme", but it's not nearly as readable13:48
tbrfaenil: I think you can also have a nick list or such13:48
faenilyes I have that13:48
faeniland I have adv_windowlist13:48
tbrif you run debian install the irssi-scripts package, has essentials13:48
faenil(but that mess of window list at the bottom? come on!)13:48
faenilok13:48
tbryou still need to symlink them in, at least for autostart13:49
faenilyep, I've done that for the plugins I'm using so far :)13:49
tbrand as said, you could try if irssi-proxy functionality is something for you.13:49
faenilyeah I want to give irssi a decent chance, before desisting13:50
tbron an unrelated note: komputerświat (spin off of axel springer in poland) is trying to hand people trojanized versions of software including Xiph.org's13:50
* tbr is not the least amused13:51
Stskeepstbr: O_o13:51
tbrthey try to shove people a "downloader" that contains an adware installer13:51
tbrthey also had the gall to ask for a backlink, because "it got such a great review" (yeah, user comments at the bottom are "you trojanized my machine a**hats!")13:52
faenilI don't understand why my nick is aligned properly and yours aren't :(13:54
SK_worktbr: http://www.howtogeek.com/198622/heres-what-happens-when-you-install-the-top-10-download.com-apps/ ?13:55
tbrStskeeps: seems to be the more aggressive version of sf.net13:55
dr_gogeta86do you feel me as an alien ...13:56
Stskeepstbr: in physical form13:56
Stskeeps:P13:56
tbrSK_work: failing to find the point in that. were they pre-trojanized or trojanized by download.com?13:57
SK_workyou have an app bundling some other trojan apps13:58
SK_workthat got rebundled by download.com that adds more trojan apps13:58
tbrnice13:59
tbrnot14:00
Stskeepsit was used as an example of 'people tend to forget how life was like before app stores'14:00
tbrif I'd still bother, I'd use it as a great example of "what happens if people upload random binaries of unknown provenance to a no-qa app store"14:01
Stskeepsi sense a business model14:01
* tbr suddenly regains a lot of interest in chum14:01
tbrI can host the RPMs for uh, bandwith optimization reasons myself, right?14:01
Stskeepsshould be trivial to wrap-around open source software with obs14:02
Stskeeps:P14:02
SK_work:P14:02
SK_workOBS enabled installer14:02
* Stskeeps is looking forward to seeing ubuntu phone 'launch' tonight14:02
tbrnot too much activity so far, but I guess official event hasn't started yet?14:03
Stskeepsindeed14:03
Stskeepsalso, on a friday?14:04
SK_workoh wait, do they launch tonight?14:04
locusfoh yeah that reminds about the hw meeting with leon tomorrow14:04
SK_workcome on where's the livestream ?14:04
locusffaenil: are you going to join that or should it be just me?14:04
Stskeepshttp://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntufr/comments/2uz8ry/le_direct_de_l%C3%A9v%C3%A9nement_ubuntu_phone_insider_event/14:04
Stskeepshmm..14:04
Stskeepshttp://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2uz6zw/livestream_of_the_ubuntu_phone_insider_event/14:05
SK_workubuntu phone reminds me of: http://tsdgeos.blogspot.fr/2015/02/qt-54-qml-c-qvariant-issues.html <- useful for sailors, useful for nemo glacier people14:05
SK_workgo grep your code14:05
tbrah, ogra started posting pictures14:05
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Stskeepshttps://twitter.com/svijee/status/56369674562515763214:05
Stskeepsthat looks intimate14:05
* Stskeeps is a little confused, considering how good canonical normally is about marketing..14:06
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SK_workStskeeps: see samsung with the Z1 ?14:07
Stskeepsi've seen the z1 yeah14:07
Stskeepsdecent piece of kit14:07
SK_worksamsung is good at marketing too14:07
Stskeepsjust.. boring14:07
SK_workmaybe it is the "new os effect"14:07
tbrwell it seems like an unloved stepchild (the z1)14:08
Stskeepsmore glitter14:08
tbrhow many times did they publicly cancel its launch?14:08
Stskeepsit used to be much more high level performance14:08
Stskeepshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february/?utm_source=website&utm_medium=carousel&utm_campaign=carousel14:11
Stskeepser, no14:11
Stskeepsthat's old14:11
faenilis there a way to put the window list on a side in irssi?14:11
Stskeepshttps://plus.google.com/+SujeevanVijayakumaran/posts/LvPpoZt7hNq14:11
Stskeepsi'm a little confused..14:12
tbrfaenil: mh, you might be able to define a vertical status-bar or something, never tried14:16
faeniltbr: how do you handle your windows? you have the list at the bottom?14:17
tbrfaenil: I know the first 30 windows by heart and for the rest I know the more important ones. Often I will just switch through windows as I know roughly where something is. If I fail at that /win list to the rescue14:18
tbralso the first 20 or so have hotkeys14:19
faenilI see..14:19
faenilyes sure14:19
tbralt+[1..0|q..p]14:19
faenilyes, yes14:19
faenilbut how do you check if a channel has new messages, or stuff like that14:19
Stskeepsit's in the [Act: ] thingi14:19
Stskeepse14:19
tbrwindow number lights up grey/white/red14:19
faenilyes, ok, that's what I meant...it would be nice to have it on a side :(14:20
faenilit's a mess at the bottom, like that14:20
faenil(I'm using adw, but still a mess)14:20
tbrgiven that I have to fight my irssi to go below 100 windows, a list on the side wouldn't be practical for me14:20
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Aardtbr: you only remember 30 windows?!14:21
faenilone thing which is not clear to me is...what is the point of a cli client? (you have plugins elsewhere as well)14:21
faenilof course cli client has less requirements, I'm talking about desktop14:21
tbrAard: I remember most of them, but for the first 30 I don't even think, my fingers just work, for the rest the more important ones are the same, for the rest I have to think which number it was14:22
Aardfaenil: it's text. so why would you need a graphical one?14:22
faenilAard: I would agree, if it had a decent layout...but what I see here is a mess of unreadable lines14:22
* ryukafalz uses weechat and rather likes it14:22
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ryukafalzhow's it unreadable?14:22
Aardfaenil: get different people to chat with for better content? :p14:23
faenillol14:23
bencoh:))14:23
ryukafalzUbuntu Touch is interesting, but even on faster hardware than my N4 it feels sluggish14:23
bencohI think it has a decent layout, for a text ui :)14:23
faenilryukafalz: because it's not structured14:23
Aardit's really just 3 lines taken by irssi, everything else is content14:24
faenilnicknames are not clearly separated from their messages14:24
ryukafalzHmm, that one's different in weechat at least14:24
bencohto be honest I dont really see how it could get better (without sacrificing space)14:24
Aardmy only problem is that over night or lunch the Act: line grows longer than the window length, even with heavy filtering. but not sure if that's fixable14:25
faenilhttp://www.drwindows.de/attachments/40830d1283177550-xchat-irc-chat-client-fuer-windows-linux-xchat-screenshot-2.png14:25
faenilsee how clean that looks?14:25
faenilwindow on left, nick separated from messages14:25
bencohfaenil: exactly, sacrificing space :)14:25
ryukafalzfaenil: http://imgur.com/u0lxsdo14:26
Aardfaenil: iirc you can configure irssi to do that as well, but I'd not want to14:26
bencohirssi can have a sidebar14:26
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bencohthere's a plugin for that iirc14:26
* tbr often uses irssi on a variety of terminals including very small ones14:26
bencohsidebar.pl or nicklist.pl or something like that14:26
faenilbencoh: I have a plugin for the side users list, but can't find anything for the windows list14:26
tbrso having only 3 lines overhead is very appreciated14:27
faenilryukafalz: that looks much better!14:27
faenilbencoh: I have nicklist.pl14:27
ryukafalzthough as tbr mentioned this layout is significantly less usable on small screens14:27
ryukafalzso, it's a trade-of14:27
ryukafalz*off14:27
faenilryukafalz: sure that layout wastes a bit too much space :)14:27
bencohfaenil: I guess you have awl ?14:28
tbrryukafalz: does that fold? because that loses like 1/3 to things that are rather useless to me 99% of the time14:28
faenilbencoh: yes, which stays at the bottom14:28
ryukafalztbr: fold as in?14:28
bencohthen I dunno14:28
bencohweechat might be the answer14:28
tbrdoes the chanlist disappear or is it always on? also the max-nick-lenght column is rather wide14:29
locusfI hate that I gotta keep my windows below 20 since only they have hotkeys14:29
locusfok I know I could bind more14:29
tbr/nick myextrasupermegawidenicknamejusttomakeryukafalzclientunusable14:29
ryukafalzChanlist isn't there by default, I can enable/disable it as I wish. Nick column is wide because someone up there ^ has a wider nick, that causes problems on networks that... yeah that :P14:29
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* ryukafalz needs to figure out how to truncate nicks14:30
tbr:)14:30
faenilI'd be very happy if I could even just get nicks to align properly like in ryukafalz's screenshot14:30
faenilat the moment my nick aligns properly, but newlines don't respect the same alignment and...gah14:31
tbrfaenil: http://www.antonfagerberg.com/texts/my-perfect-irssi-setup/ seems to have it?14:31
faeniltbr: yep, read that alraedy, followed it... :P14:32
tbr/set theme xchat14:32
tbrhehe14:32
faenilyep, I have that14:32
ryukafalztbr: Just for fun, there is one channel that I'm in but don't really talk in where that happens: http://imgur.com/LpX4Ida14:32
tbrI bet there is an #irssi or such14:33
faenillet's try with the xchatnick plugins he shows there..14:33
tbrryukafalz: yeah :)14:33
faenillet's see14:34
bencohlocusf: you can map /[0-9]* to /winlist \114:34
bencoh(to reach this window I type /51)14:35
faenillet's try exiting14:35
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locusffaenil: rather than exiting /reload14:36
faenilok, too late .P14:36
ryukafalzWeechat has a buffer navigation plugin called "go" - I type alt+g and start typing the name of the channel, it matches as I'm typing14:36
faenilmm14:36
faenilmy nick is not aligned properly because of the @14:36
faenilscrew that XD14:36
ryukafalz:P14:36
faenillet's see if I can fix the script14:38
SK_workfaenil: :D that's the burden of an admin14:38
bencohagain, wasting space ;p14:39
locusfhmm14:39
locusfhttp://pastie.org/private/8iphv9gwrqudr8nwlqe4q <- this is mine14:39
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faenillet's try again14:46
faenilwrite something14:46
locusfyo14:47
faenilgaaah14:47
faenildoes reload also reload plugins?14:47
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SK_workfaenil: something14:48
SK_worksomething else14:48
SK_workwithout nick14:48
faeniltest14:48
faenilgah14:48
ryukafalzHmm, Ubuntu homepage has a phone on it now14:48
SK_workryukafalz: "finally ?"14:48
ryukafalz:P14:48
faenilm14:53
VDVsxhas been there for very long actually, just smaller image on the side14:55
ryukafalzThe most disappointing thing about Ubuntu Touch IMO is the messaging app. It's a Telepathy client... that's restricted to only SMS with telepathy-ofono14:55
faenil:/14:58
ryukafalzand from what I've seen of the code I feel like it would need some refactoring to actually work as a general IM client14:58
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faeniltest14:59
locusffoo15:00
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faenilfail xD15:01
faenilit keeps aligning my nick only...15:02
locusfbencoh: and winlist is a bind to ?15:08
bencohlocusf: woops,15:09
bencohit maps to /wim \115:09
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faenilf15:10
faeniltell me it works now :D15:11
faenilwrite something world!15:11
bencohbleh. to /win \115:11
bencohfaenil: mreow15:11
faenilit works \o/15:11
faenilplugins conflict it seems...15:11
locusfbencoh: /alias /[0-9]* /win \1 ?15:12
bencohlocusf: I had it hardcoded for each window number but I think there is a script for that as well15:13
locusfbencoh: ah ok15:14
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dr_gogeta86hi locusf15:19
locusfdr_gogeta86: hey15:19
dr_gogeta86how many chunks did you have on btrfs15:20
dr_gogeta86after some rebalancing from 28 to 2115:20
dr_gogeta86and now seems new15:20
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faenilbtw xfce is lovely..15:31
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dr_gogeta86faenil, but some mer/ nemomobile shirts16:20
dr_gogeta86even a jolla one is wellcome16:21
dr_gogeta86I'm running out of Nerd Shirts16:21
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locusfdr_gogeta86: are there nemo shirts in existence?17:48
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SK_worklocusf: not sure, but you can make one I guess17:50
SK_workjust like those Jolla sweats that are "internal only" (c) cybette17:50
locusfyeah17:50
locusfmaybe for next FOSDEM stand, Nemo shirts?17:50
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faenilfinally my irssi layout is in decent shape \o/17:51
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SK_workfaenil: screen and tweet ?17:51
SK_worklocusf: would like one17:51
tbrfaenil: are you running bitlbee yet? :)17:51
locusfthe logo would be boss17:51
SK_work[faenil-mode] locusf let's attract more contributors first [/faenil-mode]17:51
SK_work:P17:51
faeniltbr: nope, I have read about it, but do I need it...17:51
faenilSK_work: lol17:52
locusftwitter in irssi is quite nice17:52
faenilthen irssi randomly fires highlight for sentences when there's no faenil17:52
locusfwon't have to flip out separate twitter client17:52
tbrfaenil: I have to set it up again, would be nice for twitter17:52
faenilnah... :)17:52
faenilstill wrong alignment when I'm highlighted....aaaaaaaaaargh XD17:54
SK_workfaenil: do you eyes bleeds so easily ?17:54
faenilman, it's 1 char off...it's annoying :D17:55
locusflol :D17:55
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gogetaback from home18:11
faenillocusf: try highlighting me18:13
locusffaenil: foo18:13
gogetafaenil, mooo18:13
faenilgrrr xD18:13
* faenil tries next trick18:14
SK_workfaenil: you right now http://www.commitstrip.com/en/page/6/18:16
faenilSK_work: hahaah18:17
SK_workwell, second sqare was you like 1h ago18:17
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SK_workyou are now on 3th18:17
faenilyeah..18:17
SK_workdon't worry, soon you will reach 4th18:17
SK_workfaenil: test here ?18:18
SK_work@faenil: what about adding a "@"18:18
SK_work?18:18
faenildoesn't highlight me that way, but that's a nother issue18:19
SK_workhum18:19
SK_workfaenil: here too ?18:19
SK_workfaenil: what's the issue ?18:19
faenila freaking missing space :P18:19
faenilwhen I'm highlighted18:19
faenil<     SK_work>18:20
faenilvs18:20
faenil<    SK_work>18:20
faenilthe latter is printed when you highlight me18:20
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faenilso it gets misaligned with the rest18:20
SK_workOo18:21
SK_workjust why ?18:21
SK_work:(18:21
faenilbecause they are different vars in the theme files18:22
faenilbut since there's vars which use other vars etc18:22
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faenilI have to understand which var is actually used without doc18:22
faenilhighlight me now18:22
* ryukafalz wants to go to FOSDEM at some point18:23
ryukafalzExpensive to go to Europe for that though18:23
faeniloh...where are you ?18:23
ryukafalzUS/New Jersey18:23
ryukafalz'tis why I'm using a Nexus 4 and not a Jolla :P18:23
faenilhehe18:24
faenilI shipped a Jolla to a guy in SouthAfrica :P18:24
ryukafalzIt doesn't have US 3G bands so even if I could get it imported it would be sllowwww18:24
SK_workfaenil: oubg18:24
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faenilryukafalz: right..18:26
* ryukafalz hopes for Jolla 2 :)18:26
faenil:)18:26
SK_workfaenil: can't you highlight yourself ?18:27
SK_workbtw ?18:27
faenilfaenil: test18:27
faenilnope18:27
SK_workeither by saying faenil fa faenil ?18:27
SK_workook18:27
SK_workso now, go to webirc, and connect as faenil_s_clone :P18:27
kimmoliare you trying to get right-aligned nicks on irssi?18:28
faenilkimmoli: yes, the remaining issue is that it's not perfectly aligned when I'm highlighted18:28
faenil(and that I get highlighted in random sentences, but I haven't debugged that yet)18:28
faenilSK_work: makes sense :P18:28
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faenil_testero/18:29
kimmolifaenil: and you have no such words in /hilight ?18:29
faenilkimmoli: yes they appear in the highlight window as well18:30
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SK_workwelcome faenil_tester18:31
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gogetamay KVM be with me18:32
locusfnever would have thought to be using this many android build trees18:32
locusfhybris-10.1 11.0 aosp replicant18:33
gogetagood to know18:33
gogetahybris on replicant18:33
gogetafree FLOSS18:33
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locusfno hybris on replicant gogeta sorry18:34
gogetawho knows18:34
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locusfit needs gles blobs to exist for eglfs hardware acceleration18:34
SK_workhum ...18:35
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SK_workinteresting to check how hybris can be based on replicant though18:35
locusfwell knock yourself out, I only tried by installing replicant first and then trying to boot nemo on it, no customized replicant first18:37
locusfso I was lazy :p18:37
locusfbut really paul told me its not gonna work18:37
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locusfI wonder whats wrong with my router18:38
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locusfit has been churning load averages of 17.02 since last summer18:39
locusfnothing in top though18:39
ryukafalzlocusf: how's the disk IO?18:44
locusfryukafalz: I don't know18:45
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locusfryukafalz: nothing bad in diskstats18:53
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tbrugh, 4.3GB free on a phone out of the box is a bit tight even for my liking nowadays (that *buntu thing)19:04
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ryukafalzheh19:05
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faeniltbr: highlight me pls19:10
tbrfaenil: moo™!19:10
faenilyesss \o/19:10
faenilalright, on to the next issue xD19:11
tbrhm?19:11
faenilit's properly aligned :)19:11
tbr:)19:11
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gogetai'm in19:39
gogetawhere are mer specs ?19:39
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locusfgogeta: what do you mean?19:41
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gogetafind it19:45
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gogetai've cutted my left middle finger while whasing dishes19:54
gogetahurts less then virtualbox spec file19:55
gogetalocusf, https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/Virtualization/virtualbox?rev=17120:11
gogetabut git ?20:11
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locusfdunno20:19
gogetahttps://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:Factory/virtualbox20:20
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gogetadone by srpm20:24
gogetatough way20:25
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gogetalocusf, how to setup i486 target20:31
gogetasb2-init -L --sysroot=/ -C --sysroot=/ -m sdk-build -n -N TARGET_NAME /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-gcc ?20:32
gogetasudo zypper in -t pattern Mer-SB2-i48620:32
gogetafound20:32
gogetano ...20:34
locusfgogeta: http://pastie.org/989300820:35
locusfmic that and sb2-init inside the rootfs20:35
gogeta?20:35
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gogetawrong path20:39
gogetapoint to arm20:39
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gogetahabemus sysroot20:52
gogetai think is still gcc .4.620:57
gogetasb2-init -L --sysroot=/home/gogeta/mer/targets/sb2.i486/ -C --sysroot=/home/gogeta/mer/targets/sb2.i486 -m sdk-build -n -N Nemomobile-i486-x86 /opt/cross/bin/i486-meego-linux-gnu-gcc20:58
gogetais correct20:59
locusfnonononono20:59
locusfsysroot is still /20:59
locusfjust cd to the target dir20:59
locusfand then run sb2-init20:59
gogetaok21:00
gogetadone21:00
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gogetahow to verify now ?21:01
gogetagcc test works21:03
locusfrun just sb2-init21:03
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gogetahttp://pastebin.com/z0rLHALv21:04
gogetalook21:04
gogetagcc is still  4.621:04
locusfprivate paste21:05
locusfcan't view21:05
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gogetahttp://pastebin.com/9zDwXkvd21:06
locusfhmm no idea21:08
locusfmaybe needs host toolchain upgrade as well21:08
gogetais  fresh21:08
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gogetahttp://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-core:/i486:/devel/Core_i486/i486/21:09
locusfsleep now21:09
gogetagcc is 4.821:09
locusfyes21:09
faenil4.8.3 :)21:09
locusfis that on mersdk repo21:09
locusfanyways faenil can help from here21:10
locusfhe knows what to do21:10
gogetaMerSDK MerSDK [gogeta@wineduke targets]$ sb2 -t Nemomobile-i486-x86 rpm -qa | grep 4.821:10
gogetalibstdc++-4.8.3-1.19.4.i48621:10
gogetadb4-4.8.30-1.4.6.i48621:10
gogetalibgcc-4.8.3-1.19.4.i48621:10
gogetadb4-utils-4.8.30-1.4.6.i48621:10
gogetaMerSDK MerSDK [gogeta@wineduke targets]$21:10
gogetaneither -R zypper works21:11
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faenilI can try...but what's wrong?21:14
faenilread this http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-10-01.log.html#t2014-10-01T15:06:3421:15
faeniland the day after as well21:15
faenilthere are important info about setting up with the frankenstein mer-core21:15
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gogetafaenil, thats funny21:29
gogetaMerSDK MerSDK [gogeta@wineduke gogeta]$ sb2 -t Nemomobile-i486-x86 -R zypper dup21:29
gogetamkdir: cannot create directory `/home/gogeta/mer/targets/sb2.i486/var/log/apt': Permission denied21:29
gogetaCant open /var/run/zypp.pid21:29
gogetazypper ask for apt21:29
gogetafixed btw21:32
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faenilgood21:38
faenilI think that's in "known issues" in mer wiki, iirc21:38
gogetai've missed chowing21:39
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faenils/known issues/troubleshooting21:57
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gogetai've created a sysroot21:58
gogeta from something broken21:58
gogetalike my back21:59
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