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| spiiroin | fyi/review appreciated: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-keepalive/pull/7 | 08:02 |
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| spiiroin | ^ wakeup from / block entry to suspend for glib based C programs too | 08:02 |
| locusf | morning | 08:04 |
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| filippz | morning | 08:23 |
| tbr | spiiroin: so I'd then be expected to rewrite my usage of iphb to use this? | 08:26 |
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| spiiroin | tbr: in the end this too uses iphb, so it is not a "must" thing to do... | 08:28 |
| tbr | ok | 08:29 |
| spiiroin | but it does at least try to deal with some subtle things, and if fixes are needed everything that uses these gets the benefits | 08:29 |
| tbr | I'll have to read the additional interfaces this provides. I'm currently only using scheduled wakeups to service a tcp based protocol timeout | 08:30 |
| spiiroin | once we get timed & alarm wakeups use some form of iphb wakeups, the implicit suspend blocking after rtc alarm will be made shorter -> that might break some iphb-only code out in the wild | 08:31 |
| spiiroin | tbr: btw, if you think something in the api should change - now is excellent time to raise concerns | 08:33 |
| tbr | *nod* - though I suspect with me needing only to make sure that the sleep/wait/whatever unblocks once, this isn't a problem | 08:34 |
| stephg | happy friday folks | 08:34 |
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| tbr | spiiroin: let's see if I manage to motivate myself, coherent thoughts over more than a few minutes are a bit of a challenge at the moment | 08:35 |
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| locusf | filippz: are we ready for a full release now since pulseaudio and ofono now should work out of the box, unless you want the ngfd configs on it? | 09:16 |
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| filippz | locusf: I didn't have time to do PRs, but you can use ks file from my fork of faenils repo - it has ngfd-settings-nemo and profiled-settings-nemo | 09:20 |
| filippz | both will go away (probably, as profiled has references to different sounds than jolla) but can be used for now | 09:20 |
| locusf | filippz: okay, will use those, thanks :) | 09:21 |
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| filippz | locisf: maybe we can stick in connman settings also, without that wifi doesn't start on its own? | 09:31 |
| filippz | locusf^ | 09:31 |
| locusf | filippz: sure | 09:32 |
| locusf | filippz: was it because of rfkill? | 09:34 |
| filippz | locusf: sorry for the delay, kinda busy ATM, but IIRC it was because of connman-configs-mer package not being up to date - settings from jolla work OK | 09:43 |
| filippz | afk for 30m, we can continue then | 09:44 |
| filippz | ah here it is: http://merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-12-10.log.html#t2014-12-10T19:03:08 | 09:45 |
| locusf | filippz: ok | 09:50 |
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| filippz | locusf: I've tested with PreferredTechnologies = bluetooth,wifi,cellular added to etc/connman/main.conf and WiFi seems to work | 11:11 |
| filippz | I'm rebuilding with modified ks now, and will update ks on github with it when done | 11:12 |
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| locusf | filippz: ok thanks | 11:38 |
| filippz | locusf: now, with th new image, it doesn't work (of course) - debugging it now... | 11:39 |
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| filippz | hedayat: o/ | 11:40 |
| hedayat | filippz: :) \o/ | 11:40 |
| hedayat | happy to see steady progress around here! | 11:43 |
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| filippz | jolla-common-configurations package in u10 seems skinny :) | 12:00 |
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| locusf | really? thats odd | 12:24 |
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| filippz | locusf: ks is updated on github. I'm not sure if wlan will work OK - seems to work now, but didn't at first | 12:40 |
| locusf | filippz: ok, will give it a try :) | 12:41 |
| filippz | also u can use ngf-client to test ngf/profiled sound/vibration alerts (play sms or play pwroff for example) | 12:41 |
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| locusf | ok | 12:45 |
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| locusf | filippz: did you remember to push? :) | 13:16 |
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| filippz | locusf: yes (this has been added: https://github.com/filippz/NemoWaylandKickstart/blob/master/nemo-armv7hl-n950-rnd.ks#L67) | 13:20 |
| locusf | filippz: ah you have amended you commit :) | 13:20 |
| filippz | locusf: faenil asked for a couple more days before taking a look at my PR, so for now I'm just amending stuff :) | 13:22 |
| locusf | filippz: thats ok | 13:22 |
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| marxistvegan | hey folks I know development is focused on sailfish and it is coming along well, but I guess I am at least curious on the libre software version, is it likely to come back to here? | 14:00 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: it already is here, what are you talking about :) ? | 14:00 |
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| marxistvegan | locusf: the last build of nemo I thought I saw was from feb, no? | 14:16 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: there is one from october and I was planning on doing one tonight | 14:16 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: https://img.merproject.org/images//web/locusf/19-20141028-164708/ | 14:17 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: ohhh | 14:17 |
| marxistvegan | well then I stand corrected | 14:17 |
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| marxistvegan | locusf: what devices are best? | 14:18 |
| marxistvegan | i have the n9 or a nexus 4, but am considering another | 14:18 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: n9 is the prime one now, have done releases for n7000, p3110, Jolla, maguro, nexus 5 and nexus 4 | 14:18 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: is that the n9 with the 2.6 kernel? | 14:19 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: nope, its 3.5.3 | 14:19 |
| locusf | from filippz | 14:19 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: woah i missed, where is that located/ | 14:20 |
| marxistvegan | ? | 14:20 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: https://github.com/filippz/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9 | 14:20 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: i am an idiot i thought that was dead but great | 14:21 |
| marxistvegan | i have my work cut out for me this weekend | 14:21 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: np :) | 14:21 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: do you want a fresh release right now for n9? | 14:22 |
| locusf | theres things like calls, sms, vibration, ringtones and such things available | 14:22 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: if you have a link :) | 14:22 |
| locusf | rotation works correctly too and no more lags in the ui | 14:22 |
| locusf | marxistvegan: well I will once I build the image, was gonna test a local one first :) | 14:23 |
| marxistvegan | for the moment the sailfish on the nexus4 is my daily driver so hacking on the n9 is completely open | 14:23 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: please test first | 14:23 |
| marxistvegan | i am off to work now so really wont have a chance until tonight or tomorrow | 14:23 |
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| locusf | marxistvegan: alright, will ping you anyways, you're always here though? | 14:23 |
| marxistvegan | locusf: yeah I am always around | 14:24 |
| marxistvegan | tz is boston | 14:24 |
| marxistvegan | or utc -5 i think | 14:24 |
| locusf | okay | 14:24 |
| marxistvegan | thanks for the update off to work i go | 14:24 |
| locusf | see you | 14:25 |
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| faenil | hola | 14:50 |
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| locusf | still having issues with wifi on n9 | 16:40 |
| locusf | I guess its due to something wrong with my connman config | 16:40 |
| locusf | also somethings up with ofono not reporting correct signal bars to homescreen | 16:40 |
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| locusf | but thats minor, everything still good for a release | 16:43 |
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| locusf | thankfully I'm not the release master for Sailfish :p | 16:45 |
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| faenil | filippz: sorry for making you wait on the ks stuff, I should be able to get to it this weekend | 16:57 |
| filippz | faenil: np, locusf used it anyway :) | 16:57 |
| filippz | (by the way) locusf: can you try /usr/lib/connman/test/test-connman enable wifi | 16:58 |
| locusf | filippz: sure | 16:59 |
| filippz | it seems that PreferredTechnologies doesn't fix it | 16:59 |
| filippz | removed them and mine still works | 16:59 |
| filippz | also I now have a twitter handle (@fi1ippz) so you can use it :) | 17:00 |
| locusf | filippz: ah good :) | 17:01 |
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| locusf | hmm I can't connect to my n9 now | 17:02 |
| locusf | oh well wifi should still be on though | 17:02 |
| filippz | did you restart connman? I need to reboot after that so that usbmoded uses sdk mode | 17:03 |
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| locusf | faenil: should I post my frankenstein .ks files? | 17:03 |
| locusf | filippz: yes | 17:03 |
| locusf | apparently the reboot should work yes | 17:03 |
| faenil | sure why not | 17:04 |
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| filippz | aha: connma has /var/lib/connman/settings file in which it states if WiFi is enabled or not... | 17:06 |
| filippz | damn: file /var/lib/connman/settings is not owned by any package | 17:07 |
| locusf | yep | 17:07 |
| filippz | we should have switch for WiFi in QMLSettings | 17:08 |
| locusf | there is actually, its just not visible | 17:08 |
| filippz | maybe I've seen it when I installed meegotouch-theme-darko | 17:10 |
| filippz | I did take a look at maliit the other day (since keyboard is displayed in the wrong place) - and it seems it will be a hard nut to crack | 17:13 |
| locusf | yeah the orientation is reported as landscape, happens on Jolla, maguro and n9 etc | 17:16 |
| filippz | locusf: so Sailfish is not using maliit? | 17:19 |
| locusf | filippz: it is, just not our maliit plugin | 17:20 |
| filippz | I just cant figure out how orientation handling "should" be done with Qt - there seem to be too many ways without all the bit's and peaces rigged to work together as one :( | 17:22 |
| locusf | yep | 17:23 |
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| filippz | locusf: if i understand it correctly one needs to build a switch according to this: https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/tree/master/switch ? | 17:52 |
| locusf | filippz: it has already been done, as a checkbox in glacier components | 17:52 |
| * filippz goes to take a look | 17:53 | |
| qwazix | could still be improved a bit tho | 17:54 |
| qwazix | i.e. when use flicks it to move accordingly | 17:55 |
| qwazix | *user | 17:55 |
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| locusf | yup | 17:58 |
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| mord | locusf: did anything emerge from the attempt to switch to using jolla's autologind btw? | 18:40 |
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| locusf | mord: hmm I don't actually know | 18:41 |
| locusf | were would we have been using it on? | 18:41 |
| locusf | it was something about systemd | 18:41 |
| filippz | mord: hedayad scripted something similar IIRC | 18:42 |
| filippz | this should be it: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/blob/master/bin/start-user-session | 18:43 |
| * filippz should use autocomplete and not make typos all the time | 18:44 | |
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| mord | ack | 18:49 |
| mord | thanks | 18:50 |
| filippz | locusf: sent small PR for qmlsettings, so we can switch wifi from there | 18:50 |
| mord | locusf: istr seeing a log discussing the user session startup that referred jolla's setup (with the binary autologind) | 18:51 |
| mord | a #nemomobile log, that is | 18:51 |
| locusf | mord: ah ok :) | 18:52 |
| locusf | filippz: thanks, I'll merge it now | 18:52 |
| Stskeeps | autologind is a sleep 86400 fwiw | 18:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:53 |
| mord | oh okay, so pretty much "something to keep systemd from rebooting"? | 18:54 |
| Stskeeps | pretty much | 18:55 |
| faenil | mord: it's all in the logs :) it could take a few log days to get to the culprit though :P | 18:57 |
| mord | i'm trying to figure out how much of the /lib/startup stuff is actually relevant if handling ACT_DEAD is not required -- starting to look like a simple basic systemd autologin on a fake tty might be sufficient | 18:58 |
| mord | faenil: indeed :) | 18:58 |
| filippz | just for the record: we still have issues with systemd not shutting down, but somehow restarting user services on shutdown (maybe unrelated) | 18:58 |
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| locusf | faenil: wasn't the suggestion from #systemd channel something like "use gdm" :) ? | 18:59 |
| mord | filippz: #1 make sure there are no onetshots that do not actually ever exit | 18:59 |
| mord | that tends to mess up systemd no end | 18:59 |
| faenil | locusf: yep :D | 18:59 |
| mord | *oneshots | 18:59 |
| filippz | mord: we do have a log (I can look for it) if you can take a peek ? | 19:00 |
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| mord | i can, i assure you it's very unlikely i can spot anything, but sure | 19:00 |
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| filippz | mord: thanks - http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-11-30.log.html#t2014-11-30T11:01:49 | 19:03 |
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| mord | filippz: i assume things start to go horribly around after line 126 or so in http://pastebin.com/TfMHVRzw | 19:08 |
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| mord | make that 124 | 19:08 |
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| filippz | mord: "session closed for user nemo" ? | 19:10 |
| filippz | ^ that line? | 19:10 |
| mord | yes, well after that; i don't mean that would be out of the ordinary | 19:11 |
| mord | at least tracker complaining of dbus disappearing from under it seems wrong to me | 19:12 |
| filippz | OK, we were looking at 214 (Created slice -.slice.) - but unable to figure out why it gets (re)created | 19:14 |
| mord | ah the default slice, it tends to get created and recreated | 19:14 |
| mord | lemme see if i have a log handy of a setup that actually shuts down nicely, it does do that phantom slice thing as well | 19:15 |
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| mord | to me that looks like something keeps bugging the session bus after anything that's supposed to access it should've died already | 19:16 |
| filippz | thanks mord, will try to figure it out one of these days - maybe that oneshot stuff you mentioned could be to blame | 19:21 |
| mord | something to check as well, do you have a session service with StartLimitAction=reboot-force or some such | 19:23 |
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| mord | it's unlikely a failing session service can actually force a reboot -- it can mess up the user session though | 19:24 |
| mord | justasec, capturing a log from boot to reboot | 19:24 |
| filippz | well, this has it: https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-mobile-session/blob/master/services/start-user-session.service | 19:26 |
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| mord | how do i rotate the journal again, SIGUSR2? | 19:29 |
| filippz | mord: our reboot seems to be from watchdog, since systemd session restarts user session and after enough time has passed we get a reboot - not by systemd itself | 19:31 |
| filippz | ^ compiling kernel without CONFIG_WATCHDOG_NOWAYOUT fixes this | 19:32 |
| mord | right | 19:32 |
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| coderus | what package contains qmlplugindump binary? | 19:33 |
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| coderus | found in qt5-qtdeclarative-devel-tools :) | 19:34 |
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| mord | filippz: any "non-systemd-compliant reboot attempt" could easily mess up systemd service teardown ; i've seen that happen with accidentally invoking a non systemd-awayre "reboot" | 19:36 |
| mord | *aware | 19:37 |
| mord | i.e. reboot linked against the underlying bionic | 19:37 |
| mord | i'm being unnecessarily cryptic here but that's due to me not entirely understanding what happens when a system tries to shut down without telling systemd about its intentions | 19:38 |
| filippz | well, I'm sure that DSME is systemd aware - it states "Issuing /bin/systemctl --no-block poweroff" | 19:40 |
| mord | yep | 19:40 |
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| filippz | mord: ty for your help, I must go now | 19:45 |
| filippz | goodnight everyone, o/ | 19:45 |
| mord | nini | 19:45 |
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| marxistvegan | locusf: if you are around i am back at home if you have a link to the latest build I am game :) | 23:29 |
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