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| locusf | morning :) | 05:25 |
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| Oksana | Morning :-) | 05:35 |
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| faenil | morning o/ | 10:57 |
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| locusf | qwazix: your talk got accepted \o/ https://fosdem.org/2015/schedule/event/session_7/ | 13:54 |
| Stskeeps | congratulations! | 13:55 |
| qwazix | locusf, Stskeeps thanks! | 13:59 |
| Stskeeps | https://www.packtpub.com/ has 5 EUR ebooks btw | 13:59 |
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| locusf | aagh and steam sale starts today :) | 14:15 |
| SK_work | aarg | 14:19 |
| SK_work | locusf: did it started already ? | 14:19 |
| locusf | SK_work: not yet, in 3,5h :) | 14:19 |
| SK_work | brr | 14:19 |
| SK_work | I wonder what I will grab | 14:19 |
| SK_work | kerbal space program seems to be good | 14:20 |
| locusf | I got my 80eur gamestop gift card converted to Steam wallet codes so I got some to spend :) | 14:20 |
| SK_work | locusf: what do you target ? | 14:21 |
| SK_work | what kind / what games ? | 14:21 |
| locusf | SK_work: probably borderlands: presequel at first | 14:22 |
| SK_work | haha | 14:23 |
| SK_work | :) | 14:23 |
| locusf | borderlands is great fun with friends | 14:23 |
| SK_work | wait what ? http://store.steampowered.com/app/203770/ | 14:23 |
| SK_work | 75% off ? | 14:23 |
| SK_work | maybe I should grab it | 14:24 |
| SK_work | do you think it will be even less expensive during steam holiday sales ? | 14:24 |
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| locusf | dunno | 14:27 |
| locusf | ah msn too bad qwazix's presentation is in the aw building, I can't get there | 14:27 |
| SK_work | how come ? | 14:28 |
| locusf | I'm using a wheelchair :) | 14:29 |
| Stskeeps | aw building.. which one was that again | 14:29 |
| qwazix | oh, too bad... they should've sorted the accessibility issues | 14:30 |
| Stskeeps | the problems there is the stairs into the building from what i recall | 14:30 |
| SK_work | locusf: ew :( | 14:31 |
| SK_work | locusf: call people to carry you ? | 14:31 |
| * Stskeeps would gladly volunteer, at least | 14:31 | |
| locusf | SK_work: well I can go separately from my chair and climb the stairs | 14:32 |
| locusf | have had to do that a couple of times because of my apartment blocks elevator | 14:33 |
| locusf | its not really fun since its in the 4th floor | 14:33 |
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| locusf | Stskeeps: thanks, I'll ask first from the infodesk if the stiuation has improved | 14:36 |
| locusf | I got a reply from the fosdem organizers that all the other parts of the campus are ok | 14:36 |
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| tbr | locusf / faenil - how well does the dialer work in nemo? I'm wondering if we could squeeze things out even more in the SIP/VoIP domain by showing that outbound calls can be made to work easily. | 17:41 |
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| tbr | This is pretty much pointless as the real work would be in the Sailfish closed source dialer, which likely is different in ways. | 17:42 |
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| locusf | tbr: its pre-alpha at best, the glacier one is | 17:45 |
| locusf | tbr: but the old qtcomponents one works better | 17:45 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile/voicecall-ui-reference | 17:47 |
| tbr | if you dare try, I can give you some working sip server details for testing at some point. | 17:47 |
| locusf | well I could try on my other jolla | 17:48 |
| tbr | *nod* no hurry | 17:48 |
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| locusf | if it creates a telepathy voicecall provider, then I see no obstacles | 17:49 |
| tbr | yes, it should | 17:49 |
| locusf | ok since the dialer lists them | 17:49 |
| locusf | and then allows the user to select it and then dial | 17:49 |
| tbr | well, on sailfish it just explodes in a firework and sometimes takes lipstick with it | 17:49 |
| tbr | (on incoming calls) | 17:50 |
| locusf | lol | 17:50 |
| locusf | sounds like fun | 17:50 |
| phaeron | yeah that is really annoying | 17:50 |
| phaeron | I would love to have SIP | 17:50 |
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| tbr | phaeron: well, you are in a much better position than we are. approach dialer person, beat with clue by four until implemented. rinse repeat with audio policy person. | 17:51 |
| locusf | I'd put a selector on the glacier dialer but we lack a component for it :P | 17:51 |
| phaeron | tbr: I've been trying :) | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | we don't allow phaeron a clue by four, it'd be a bloodbath. | 17:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:51 |
| tbr | phaeron: good, I'd be disapointed if you didn't | 17:51 |
| phaeron | but yeah if I had a baseball bat .. some people would be upset | 17:52 |
| tbr | as the open source side of things is pretty much exhausted, I've put a futile plea for help on the next meeting agenda, but that might be late january due to holiday season etc | 17:52 |
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| locusf | I'll see about the dialer now, once I've checked Steam sales :) | 18:01 |
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| locusf | The Steam Sotre is experiencing some heavy load ... ok I guess not | 18:05 |
| tbr | While I was part trolling people to open up back then, I do think that writing Nemo bits and pieces in a way that they could act as drop in replacements of the Jolla evil-vendor-binaries makes a lot sense actually | 18:12 |
| locusf | tbr: sofiasip? | 18:14 |
| locusf | I mean do I configure that or something else | 18:14 |
| tbr | locusf: yes | 18:14 |
| locusf | ok | 18:14 |
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| locusf | I'll just reboot | 18:14 |
| locusf | my jolla | 18:14 |
| tbr | https://together.jolla.com/questions/415/ | 18:14 |
| locusf | ok have been reading that yez | 18:14 |
| tbr | that applies to pretty much harmattan,MeeGoCE,Nemo,Sailfish | 18:15 |
| locusf | tbr: can you pm the details? | 18:16 |
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| tbr | locusf: yes, just a sec | 18:18 |
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| ryukafalz | tbr: I do particularly like the idea of Glacier being API compatible with Silica | 19:15 |
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| ryukafalz | (at least to some extent) | 19:18 |
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| tbr | ryukafalz: yes, enough to be a viable replacement without crashing things (too much) | 19:21 |
| * ryukafalz | 19:21 | |
| * ryukafalz nods | 19:21 | |
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| ryukafalz | the interaction methods may be too different to do that easily though | 19:22 |
| ryukafalz | considering Silica is entirely gesture-based | 19:23 |
| ryukafalz | well, almost | 19:23 |
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| tbr | so far I'd be happy if we could toss out some of the binary-only garbage | 19:25 |
| ryukafalz | yeah | 19:25 |
| tbr | I'm really getting sick of vague handwaving, posturing and mumbling, while many great opportunities pass | 19:26 |
| tbr | message ui, etc | 19:26 |
| tbr | dialer (case in point, see above) | 19:26 |
| tbr | I can't be even bothered to install update 10 right now, because it's just again the same | 19:29 |
| tbr | you can put lipstick on a pig… (pun intended) | 19:29 |
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| aard_ | tbr: the problem with sip is audio routing, not dialer | 19:40 |
| tbr | aard_: so? apparently it can be made to work to some degree - https://together.jolla.com/question/13330/feature-request-separate-earphone-speaker-phone-sound-in-android-apps-voip-skype-etc/ | 19:44 |
| tbr | that states that it works to some degree, instead of hacking config files and holding the phone upside down | 19:46 |
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