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| locusf | morning | 06:03 |
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| filippz | morning locusf | 06:11 |
| Oksana | Moin :-) | 06:11 |
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| locusf | filippz: does that sed command on dbus files now make ofono functional? | 06:14 |
| filippz | locusf: didn't try the ofono, but if IIRC hedayat said that it is needed for ofono to work | 06:16 |
| locusf | filippz: ok, remembered the same then | 06:17 |
| locusf | I'll be getting a maguro soon so I can finally test with a prepaid sim, also test on n9 | 06:17 |
| filippz | locusf: nice :) | 06:18 |
| filippz | someone still needs to merge this for sound to work https://github.com/nemomobile/pulseaudio-settings-n950-n9/pull/3 | 06:19 |
| locusf | gotta ping jusa_ | 06:23 |
| filippz | already did the other day - no reply so far :( | 06:25 |
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| jusa_ | locusf: pong | 06:43 |
| locusf | jusa_: could you take a look at that pull request above? | 06:44 |
| jusa_ | yes, already did but forgot to merge.. | 06:44 |
| jusa_ | I will merge that pr when I get to proper keyboard | 06:45 |
| filippz | jusa_: ty! | 06:49 |
| locusf | jusa_: ok thanks :) | 06:55 |
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| jusa_ | locusf: is n950 adaptation using PulseAudio 4.0? | 07:07 |
| jusa_ | filippz: ^ | 07:07 |
| locusf | hmm I'm not sure it does | 07:07 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/mer-core:armv7hl:devel/pulseaudio | 07:08 |
| locusf | thats the package we're pulling in | 07:08 |
| locusf | seems like its 5.0 | 07:08 |
| locusf | thats from mer-packages | 07:09 |
| jusa_ | good.. just that I did some changes to pulseaudio-settings for 4.0, but seems I never tagged those.. that's why I was wondering. | 07:10 |
| filippz | tbh, I just added the file that was missing based on the one used in Jolla. Since sound was working OK, I didn't loose too much sleep over it :) | 07:10 |
| jusa_ | let me know if everything breaks now. :) | 07:10 |
| locusf | jusa_: could you please tag as well :) ? | 07:11 |
| locusf | hmm the settings package isn't linked from github | 07:12 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/show/nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n950-n9/pulseaudio-settings-n950 | 07:12 |
| jusa_ | I will, just started thinking about the version and all before did.. and fixed small packaging error.. but will tag now | 07:13 |
| locusf | jusa_: ok thanks :) | 07:14 |
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| hedayat | morning all! | 07:18 |
| locusf | hey hedayat :) | 07:19 |
| hedayat | locusf: filippz: adding nemo to users group and the dbus file modification is necessary for ofono, but not enough | 07:19 |
| hedayat | locusf: hi :) | 07:19 |
| filippz | hedayat: o/ | 07:20 |
| hedayat | The problem is a bug in ofono 1.14: it'll crash on N9 right after entering PIN (if PIN is disabled, it'll crash immediately then). ofono 1.12 works fine. | 07:20 |
| locusf | ah it was that too | 07:20 |
| hedayat | Someone should investigate ofono-1.14 backtrace and debug it to find the problem. I just found out that it was not due to Mer patches since ofono-1.14 from Fedora repositories behave the same | 07:21 |
| hedayat | I wonder where ofono is being developed because the link to git repo in its main site is dead | 07:21 |
| hedayat | BTW, since ofono-1.12 works, I'll probably not work on 1.14 fix anytime soon; (unless I feel that it can be easily fixed). I'd prefer to spend my free time on stuff which doesn't work at all | 07:23 |
| locusf | there is debuginfo for ofono | 07:28 |
| locusf | so it shouldn't be too hard to debug | 07:29 |
| locusf | just gotta gdb attach | 07:29 |
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| hedayat | locusf: yes, the problem is if it is easy to fix too. ;) but, you are right. I'll try to have a brief look at it soon. | 07:30 |
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| locusf | hedayat: good luck with it :) | 07:40 |
| hedayat | locusf: thanks! | 07:40 |
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| filippz | locusf: I've converted kernel back to landscape and created a PR for nemo-configs-n950-n9 (https://github.com/nemomobile/nemo-configs-n950-n9/pull/8) | 09:24 |
| filippz | hedayat: ^ I've update ks for nemomobile - do you have some newer one for sailfish - I need to put fbset-n9.service in it ? | 09:25 |
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| filippz | locusf: thanx for merging | 09:28 |
| locusf | filippz: np :) | 09:30 |
| hedayat | filippz: I've not put it in a repo yet. I was thinking if I should fork vgrade repo and create a pr there, or create an independent repo. Also, I've not added my changes to it. But I think I should put it somewhere right now, so that it'll benefit from your changes ;) | 09:30 |
| locusf | filippz: could you please create a pull request for nemo .ks to https://github.com/faenil/NemoWaylandKickstart ? | 09:31 |
| filippz | hedayat: currently only nemo benefits because on sailfish we still must rotate fb | 09:31 |
| hedayat | filippz: yes, at least I'm not required to add fb rotation myself ;) | 09:32 |
| hedayat | :D | 09:32 |
| filippz | hedayat: also still no pvr IOCTL errors when in landscape - maybe we can think of soemthing else for sailfish instead of rotating fb... | 09:32 |
| hedayat | really? hmmm maybe I should try sailfish in landscape mode. It'd be enough if I can start apps. Is it possible? | 09:33 |
| hedayat | If it prevents IOCTL errors, I'd be willing to see if sailfish can be rotated in software too. | 09:34 |
| filippz | hedayat: small doc that led me to rotating fb - some stupid thinghs inside, but maybe you'll have some other ideas: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v7zmnjfl16sq3h0/SailfishOSN9Lipstick.pdf?dl=0 | 09:35 |
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| hedayat | filippz: thanks. | 09:43 |
| hedayat | filippz: I'm thinking if I should go the other way around: use Nemo in portrait mode and see if it causes such IOCTL errors, and more importantly, crashes. I still wonder how did you get IOCTL 20 error but no crashes! | 09:44 |
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| hedayat | vgrade: there? | 09:49 |
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| filippz | hedayat: I'm not sure about the crashes - those errors might have been timed at closing apps/lipstick thus making it undetectable | 10:03 |
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| filippz | I have to ask (hedayat, locusf) does your N9 shutdown properly? Mine restarts instead after some time. | 10:05 |
| filippz | Also I boots by itself at random times - being shutdown by 8 sec power press (I've removed all the calendar reminders from Harmattan just to be sure) | 10:06 |
| bencoh | it never sleeps ! | 10:12 |
| bencoh | it's watching you! | 10:12 |
| hedayat | filippz: IIRC, nemo has such behavior (restart rather than poweroff) on my phone too | 10:15 |
| hedayat | filippz: I'm preparing my .ks here: https://github.com/hedayat/jolla-n950-kickstart | 10:16 |
| filippz | bencoh: yup - maybe it's trying to call home :) | 10:16 |
| filippz | hedayat: we have to add creation of fbset-n9.service to ks since it doesn't exists anymore. Basically c/p proximity-fix.service already in ks | 10:20 |
| hedayat | filippz: ok, thanks | 10:22 |
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| filippz | hedayat: also sed line for QT_QPA_EVDEV_TOUCHSCREEN_PARAMETERS need to change because now there is no QT_QPA_EVDEV_TOUCHSCREEN_PARAMETERS= line to change :) | 10:32 |
| hedayat | filippz: :) ok! | 10:33 |
| filippz | and second sed (PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS) has no effect - PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS are already empty | 10:34 |
| hedayat | filippz: should it be filled with the options used before? | 10:38 |
| filippz | hedayat: no, that is the beauty - it was used only by wizard on the first run, lipstick was ignoring it. Now when in portrait it breaks that wizard :) | 10:40 |
| filippz | If same settings are to be (somehow) applied to jolla's home - then we wouldn't have to play with framebuffer | 10:41 |
| hedayat | filippz: wait! Are you suggesting modifications for portrait-by-default-kernel or landscape-kernel? | 10:41 |
| filippz | hedayat: landscape-kernel - I've changed it back to landscape:) | 10:42 |
| hedayat | filippz: This .ks worked fine for portrait-kernel | 10:42 |
| filippz | this way glesplash works, and there are no pvr IOCTL problems (for now) | 10:42 |
| hedayat | filippz: aha, ok. you said "Now when in portrait it breaks that wizard" I just wondered if you are talking about portrait kernel | 10:42 |
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| hedayat | filippz: for landscape kernel, shouldn't we have these options to rotate the wizard to portrait mode? | 10:43 |
| filippz | hedayat: yes - by using fbset-n9.service you are going to portrait fb orientation and leaving PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS would break first run wizard | 10:43 |
| filippz | kernel set it to be landscape - | 10:44 |
| filippz | fbset_n9 sets it to be portrait | 10:44 |
| hedayat | filippz: ah! I just forgot that we'll be changing the kernel to portrait for SFOS. Just confused. :D :P | 10:44 |
| hedayat | filippz: forgot about fbset_n9. So this ks should work fine when fbset_n9 is added back. The sed commands will just print errors as it did for me. | 10:46 |
| hedayat | or do nothing. | 10:46 |
| filippz | hedayat: If lipstick (wayland compositor) is to "convinced" to use the old PRE_USER_SESSION_DISPLAY_OPTIONS then all of this would be unnecessary | 10:46 |
| hedayat | Suddenly I was thinking that we are rotating SFOS in higher level software too! | 10:46 |
| hedayat | filippz: yeah, OK. :) | 10:47 |
| filippz | maybe lipstick (compositor) or even qt wayland plugin would be a good place for applying these settings | 10:48 |
| hedayat | filippz: what do you do in Nemo now? do you rotate lipstick or glacier itself? | 10:49 |
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| filippz | we are now using GLACIER_NATIVEORIENTATION env variable in glacier-home and rotate it according to that setting from qml | 10:50 |
| filippz | we are comparing that to QtScreen primaryOrientation and calculating the rotattion and x,y correction, together with swapping w/h if needed | 10:51 |
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| hedayat | filippz: hmmm I wonder if SFOS supports such rotation, specially it might be useful on their tablet version | 10:52 |
| filippz | it gets messy when you have rotated element that is a child of another rotated element together with x,y and w/h correction | 10:52 |
| locusf | nope, there is no rotation support in jolla-home | 10:52 |
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| filippz | hedayat: you can probably patch jolla's qml and adjust rotation property, x, y, width and height - but you would have to do so with every update | 10:53 |
| hedayat | filippz: if it works, I'd be fine with applying the patch to updates. | 10:55 |
| filippz | I was thinking of using qt wayland plugin to fool lipstick into thinking that the screen is 480x854 and do a correction there - maybe that would be feasible | 10:55 |
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| filippz | if qml is to be patched then glacier-home has what you need :) | 10:56 |
| hedayat | locusf: ok then | 10:56 |
| hedayat | filippz: probably I'll try that first. | 10:56 |
| hedayat | filippz: the plugin should also do the rotation I think | 10:57 |
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| locusf | filippz: and no, my n9 does not always shutdown, it also starts again | 10:59 |
| filippz | hedayat: hows that on SFOS (shutting down)? | 10:59 |
| hedayat | Is it possible to copy some files from outside build root into it in .ks file? Or use wget to download something? | 10:59 |
| hedayat | filippz: IIRC, it actually shuts down | 10:59 |
| hedayat | it might be related to systemd | 11:00 |
| filippz | then it's not kernel - probably dsme gets colsed too early | 11:00 |
| filippz | hedayat: regarding rotation - IMHO, locusf is reffering to the fact that jolla-home doesn't respond to orinetation changes from sensor (it doesn't have to) but instead is using Qt primaryOrientation as a reference which in the case on N9 is landscape but should be portrait | 11:00 |
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| hedayat | filippz: and what will it do when it is landscape? | 11:01 |
| filippz | it does so because QtScreen reports it to be wider than taller (854x480) - qt wayland plugin could report it different (IMHO) | 11:01 |
| hedayat | does it support running in landscape mode? | 11:02 |
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| filippz | it's unaware that display it rotating by itself , so you get to see 480x480 square on top, and not seeing other 854-480 pixels to the right | 11:04 |
| hedayat | If the plugin just swaps width and height values, wouldn't jolla home try to render half of itself off the screen? I mean, trying to draw in landscape orientation but assuming the width is 480 and height is 854? | 11:04 |
| hedayat | yeah, I mean the same thing | 11:04 |
| hedayat | so we will still need a rotation somewhere? | 11:05 |
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| filippz | hedayat: who knows - orientation is good even if it thinks that the display is landscape | 11:06 |
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| hedayat | filippz: ah! I remember reading in the pdf that some orientations are correct | 11:07 |
| hedayat | :P | 11:07 |
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| filippz | it's a mess really :) jolla-home just needs to be 480x854 and no rotation is needed because it's already displayed ok | 11:09 |
| filippz | but who knows what about touchscreen then... | 11:09 |
| hedayat | hmm I think I can use %post --nochroot to copy some files to the image | 11:09 |
| hedayat | filippz: :)) | 11:09 |
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| filippz | Picture 1 from my pdf displays the problem - using x,y and correction and swapping w/h in qml would do it | 11:12 |
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| locusf | hedayat: I got the ofono backtrace now, will try to debug | 11:21 |
| locusf | hedayat: http://pastie.org/9746672 | 11:23 |
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| locusf | hedayat: my ofono crashes on something of sms and cbs functions | 11:40 |
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| locusf | hedayat: I disabled isimodem and now I got working n9 modem | 12:06 |
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| Stskeeps | https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer-core:i486:devel <3 | 12:10 |
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| locusf | Stskeeps: nice :) | 12:16 |
| locusf | oh its already building for armv7hl | 12:18 |
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| hedayat | locusf: Do you mean that without it really works? | 12:27 |
| hedayat | locusf: Are you able to enter pin? or do some other activity? | 12:28 |
| locusf | yep, at least it doesn't crash on ofono startup | 12:28 |
| locusf | hedayat: I can't enter pin as I have disabled it | 12:28 |
| hedayat | locusf: what about call/sms? recognizing modem is not enough. | 12:28 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/9746781 | 12:29 |
| locusf | hedayat: I can't call due to those dbus errors | 12:29 |
| locusf | ah | 12:29 |
| locusf | I haven't modified the dbus stuff yet :/ | 12:29 |
| hedayat | :) | 12:30 |
| locusf | do I need to reboot? | 12:31 |
| locusf | or just restart dbus= | 12:31 |
| hedayat | locusf: but in my experiments, it doesn't work without isimodem. | 12:31 |
| hedayat | locusf: if you've also added nemo to users group right now | 12:31 |
| hedayat | its better for you to reboot | 12:31 |
| locusf | hedayat: ok it might be that I gotta enable it once dbus | 12:31 |
| locusf | it is | 12:31 |
| locusf | [nemo@localhost ~]$ id | 12:31 |
| locusf | uid=100000(nemo) gid=100000(nemo) groups=39(video),100(users),996(ssu),998(timed),999(oneshot),1002(bluetooth),1005(audio),100000(nemo) | 12:31 |
| hedayat | so maybe it should be enough to restart dbus daemon | 12:32 |
| hedayat | (the system instance) | 12:32 |
| hedayat | but probably it | 12:32 |
| hedayat | it'll cause/need all user session to be restarted | 12:32 |
| hedayat | However, in my tests, it won't work without isimodem plugin | 12:32 |
| hedayat | both n900 and isimodem plugins were required | 12:33 |
| locusf | ok | 12:33 |
| locusf | will test some more | 12:33 |
| hedayat | n900 plugin recognizes the modem, but not all its functionality | 12:33 |
| locusf | is your error always a segfault? | 12:33 |
| locusf | on ofono startup that is | 12:33 |
| hedayat | you can use ofono tests to see if it recognizes sms services, etc | 12:34 |
| hedayat | yes, when isimodem is enabled I got a segfault when sim is activated | 12:34 |
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| hedayat | almost same behavior IIRC | 12:34 |
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| locusf | ok | 12:36 |
| locusf | I have traced the sources but I still haven't figured out why it crashes | 12:37 |
| hedayat | locusf: I'm pretty sure that you'll need to enable isimodem, because I was forced to remove it from disabled plugins to get call/sms working in my SFOS image | 12:37 |
| locusf | hedayat: ok I did enable it now | 12:37 |
| hedayat | I can't also guess anything useful from the backtrace. if the pointer is actually malloc'ed somewhere, then it has probably freed twice. | 12:39 |
| hedayat | I don't know how much ofono has been changed since 1.12, but checking the differences might also help. Or, if you know the git repo of ofono, it might be easier to find the problem using git bisect | 12:40 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono | 12:41 |
| locusf | will need to compile ofono with disabled optimizations | 12:41 |
| hedayat | locusf: and you can run ofono without --nobacktrace, it might provide some more details?! | 12:41 |
| locusf | hedayat: I already run it with -n -d to get most of the debug information | 12:42 |
| locusf | damn | 12:48 |
| locusf | I compiled a non-debuginfo package | 12:48 |
| hedayat | :) | 12:48 |
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| locusf | the question is how do I create a debuginfo package? Stskeeps lbt any helpers? | 13:00 |
| locusf | via mb2 that is | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | there's a flag | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | -d | 13:00 |
| Stskeeps | or the likes | 13:00 |
| locusf | yep | 13:01 |
| locusf | I have --enable-debug there | 13:01 |
| locusf | in the .spec | 13:01 |
| locusf | also %debug_package | 13:01 |
| locusf | just copied the debuginfo binary from source tree | 13:03 |
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| hedayat | why you don't have automatic debuginfo package generation in Mer? | 13:04 |
| hedayat | In Fedora, it is generated automatically without any changes in .spec, and IIRC it is possible to disable it somehow | 13:05 |
| phaeron | that's already the case | 13:06 |
| hedayat | ah, so what's locusf's problem? | 13:06 |
| phaeron | I don't know | 13:06 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/blob/master/ofono/src/smsutil.c#L4209 <- here is the offending line | 13:07 |
| Stskeeps | hedayat: we do, it's just that we're using a 'quick easy build' thing for easy development | 13:07 |
| locusf | node is not accessible | 13:07 |
| locusf | (gdb) p *node | 13:07 |
| locusf | Cannot access memory at address 0x72617772 | 13:07 |
| locusf | thus the segfault | 13:07 |
| locusf | the pointer is not null however | 13:07 |
| hedayat | double free? | 13:08 |
| locusf | there either should be a check for this or something else is required for the patching | 13:08 |
| locusf | l->data is defined above | 13:08 |
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| locusf | hmm l->data is a void* | 13:09 |
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| locusf | I assume GS_LIST and gconstpointer stuff has something to do with glib(c)? | 13:13 |
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| hedayat | locusf: yes, looks like to be a glib function | 13:16 |
| hedayat | the problem should not be there, it might be freed somewhere else again. | 13:16 |
| locusf | but its not that, the memory in that area is not null so I guess its not freed? | 13:18 |
| locusf | I'm not that good at c though :/ | 13:18 |
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| locusf | and all the guys who keep ofono patched for nemo are working at tieto so I guess we can't contact them | 13:19 |
| hedayat | locusf: I'll try to dig into it soon. No, if you free a pointer it does not change the pointer to NULL, it just frees the memory to be used by other stuff, and the pointer points to a memory which it should not. | 13:21 |
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| locusf | yup | 13:22 |
| bencoh | could be a mem corruption | 13:24 |
| bencoh | pointer being overwritten by something else | 13:24 |
| bencoh | unless the process released a huge amount of space gdb should still be able to access the pointer memory | 13:25 |
| bencoh | pointed* | 13:25 |
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| bencoh | compare this pointer to other (valid) heap pointers | 13:25 |
| bencoh | (and check the memory map of your process) | 13:25 |
| locusf | hedayat: seems that this isn't gonna be easy :) | 13:28 |
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| hedayat | locusf: yes, this is why I said "if debugging is easy"! But you raised my motivation to debug this. I might really do so :P | 13:59 |
| locusf | hedayat: ok great :) | 14:00 |
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| locusf | Stskeeps: did somebody forget about nemo-qml-plugin-email from the middleware merge? | 16:35 |
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| Stskeeps | locusf: might have slipped | 16:41 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: ok :) | 16:43 |
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| locusf | whee text message received on n9 :) | 16:48 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/home:lpotter/ofono/0001-n900-disable-cbs.patch?expand=1 | 16:48 |
| SK_work | locusf: <3 | 16:49 |
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| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/pull/264 | 16:53 |
| locusf | lpotter: maybe you could take a look at that? ^ | 16:54 |
| locusf | calling works now too | 16:57 |
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| sledges | locusf: \o/ | 17:21 |
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| locusf | sadly n7000 is still dead | 17:23 |
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| locusf | oh yeah I completely forgot about vakkov doing his things with n900 | 17:39 |
| locusf | sledges: I did comment on why this is need on the commit, but I don't have anymore details on it unfortunately | 17:41 |
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| locusf | sledges: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.ofono/11882 | 17:48 |
| sledges | locusf: yes? | 17:50 |
| sledges | :) | 17:51 |
| locusf | sledges: I was just pointing out that you probably gotta talk to Sage about this :) | 17:51 |
| locusf | http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.ofono/11885 | 17:51 |
| sledges | locusf: ah just found the last email yes thanks | 17:51 |
| sledges | good find about how they emailed upstream | 17:52 |
| sledges | and | 17:52 |
| sledges | it reads n950 | 17:52 |
| sledges | .c | 17:52 |
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| locusf | sledges: I'm reading upstream commits on this | 17:53 |
| sledges | so locusf why are you picking up n900.c ? | 17:53 |
| locusf | sledges: well the driver for n900 works for n9 as well | 17:53 |
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| sledges | but if you modify it, it potentially breaks n900 | 17:53 |
| sledges | or needs tests | 17:54 |
| sledges | Sage submitted a patch for n950.c | 17:54 |
| locusf | sledges: so if I find a "merge" commit in which the functionality for n9(50) and n900 are somehow made as one then its possible that n900 might not suffer | 17:54 |
| sledges | yes, we need to find a trace of the "lost" n950.c in the ofono tree ;) | 17:54 |
| locusf | the n900.c if from latest official upstream repo from nov 5 2013 | 17:55 |
| locusf | *is | 17:55 |
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| sledges | locusf: looks like those were rejected first time round: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.ofono/11886 | 18:00 |
| locusf | sledges: there is no indication of n900.c being updated after april 2011 | 18:00 |
| locusf | sledges: yeah | 18:01 |
| sledges | locusf: that's true, n900 stayed untouched, and I think n950 never appeared (rather than accepted and then deleted) | 18:01 |
| sledges | but then i found this: | 18:02 |
| sledges | http://mirror.lxer.com/harmattan/url/obs/https/api.pub.meego.com/MeeGo:Trunk:Testing/ofono/n950.patch | 18:02 |
| locusf | sledges: its strange that the n900.c driver just works | 18:02 |
| sledges | if you want to make things proper ;) | 18:02 |
| locusf | especially since n9 saw light in september 2011 | 18:02 |
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| sledges | to do things elegantly, I suggest you to do the last part of what was told to Marko: | 18:02 |
| sledges | I would say that this patch doesn't add N950 plugin, but first rename some nokia gpio function, update N900 | 18:03 |
| sledges | plugin and then introduce the N950. | 18:03 |
| sledges | (i.e. introduce the N950 ;)) | 18:03 |
| sledges | from the patch above you could diff the two plugins, maybe n950 would work even better | 18:03 |
| locusf | umm... ok :p | 18:03 |
| sledges | my point being that modifications to n900 because of n950 quirks were also not accepted upstream, due to regression fear on N900 | 18:03 |
| sledges | all speculation, but i give you options ;) | 18:03 |
| locusf | has ofono tested to be working on n900 on the latest releases? | 18:04 |
| sledges | and we could also keep the n900 folk happy, even if modem efforts never see light of day | 18:04 |
| sledges | this puts us in good practise not to break legacy devices, should we see this scenario in future | 18:05 |
| sledges | ^^ | 18:05 |
| sledges | :) | 18:05 |
| locusf | indeed | 18:05 |
| sledges | i know it's common to still name mach-omap2/ in kernel and have omap4 files inside ;) as many are backwards compat, but still once such compatibility is broken, things get refactored and split into diff technologies | 18:06 |
| sledges | likewise we ended up having n9xx paths ;) | 18:07 |
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| vakkov | i'll be back with n900 soon :D | 18:11 |
| vakkov | i need a uart cable | 18:11 |
| vakkov | to get a proper kernel booting | 18:11 |
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| vakkov | a kernel 3.0 with hybris for gpu | 18:12 |
| sledges | vakkov: so you would use ofono via rild and not n900.c plugin (if i make sense) | 18:14 |
| sledges | ? | 18:14 |
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| vakkov | havent though about that | 18:14 |
| sledges | well, you said hybris :P | 18:15 |
| sledges | or only for gpu;) (i don't know if it's possibly to have hybris and non-hybris hybrid on a system :D) | 18:15 |
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| locusf | hybrisception | 18:16 |
| locusf | I was thinking about porting Cyanogenmod 11 to Jolla and then use it as base for a hadk port of nemo so it would be all nice and pretty, in theory | 18:16 |
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| locusf | sledges: I can already tell that n950.c is a copypaste from n900.c, minus the renamed gpio function names | 18:18 |
| locusf | sledges: I'm literally looking at them side-by-side | 18:18 |
| sledges | locusf: yep, reading my mind :D | 18:18 |
| locusf | sledges: so you want me to patch a separate n950.c which has disabled cbs creation? | 18:19 |
| sledges | locusf: but this would then create too much redundancy | 18:20 |
| sledges | how about an #ifdef in this case? | 18:20 |
| sledges | very similar hardwares get away with those mostly | 18:20 |
| locusf | sledges: what defines n900 and n950 modems apart? | 18:21 |
| sledges | pardon? | 18:21 |
| locusf | sledges: what should I use for the #ifdef? | 18:21 |
| sledges | just add #ifndef N950 | 18:21 |
| locusf | but the nemo core could build for both N9(50) and N900? | 18:22 |
| sledges | because your situation says: disable cbs for n950 | 18:22 |
| locusf | vakkov: my n900 is waiting for some nemo goodness, make it happen :) | 18:23 |
| locusf | sledges: but the package could be built for both n900 and n950 | 18:24 |
| locusf | sledges: so a compile time ifdef would get tricky | 18:24 |
| sledges | yes, need a way to know which device you're building for | 18:24 |
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| locusf | so this is a generic mer-core repo | 18:25 |
| locusf | no way to know then :/ | 18:25 |
| locusf | but the commenting out is also a hack | 18:25 |
| sledges | what selects taking n900.c plugin? | 18:25 |
| sledges | its own interface? | 18:25 |
| sledges | e..g on an N950 | 18:25 |
| locusf | sledges: yes ofono itself minus --noplugin separated plugins | 18:26 |
| sledges | how? | 18:26 |
| sledges | how does it do device detection? | 18:26 |
| locusf | it doesn't | 18:26 |
| locusf | it just launches all plugins at start unless --no-plugin is specified with plugins that should not get loaded | 18:27 |
| sledges | :) | 18:27 |
| sledges | right, similar to ngfd behaviour with "fail silently" stuffs | 18:27 |
| locusf | ofono does have some udev rules | 18:28 |
| locusf | but they don't make any sense | 18:28 |
| sledges | now i understand you question - how to differentiate between n900 and n950 modem | 18:28 |
| locusf | ok good :) sorry for being unreadable :) | 18:28 |
| sledges | is ok, i didn't know the extra info you just told me;) | 18:28 |
| sledges | and quite possibly we just answered ourselves why n950.c patch never made it | 18:29 |
| sledges | nor cbd patch got accepted ;) | 18:29 |
| sledges | locusf: this is how selection happens: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.ofono/11884 | 18:33 |
| sledges | via udev | 18:33 |
| sledges | see http://mirror.lxer.com/harmattan/url/obs/https/api.pub.meego.com/MeeGo:Trunk:Testing/ofono/n950.patch | 18:34 |
| sledges | plugins/udev.c | 2 + | 18:34 |
| sledges | at the bottom | 18:34 |
| sledges | erm | 18:34 |
| sledges | here | 18:34 |
| sledges | +++ ofono-0.48/plugins/ofono.rules | 18:34 |
| locusf | yes | 18:34 |
| locusf | the n900 udev rules overwritten by the n950 rule | 18:35 |
| locusf | so it doesn't make sense | 18:35 |
| sledges | so a device should provide its own rules | 18:35 |
| sledges | and we do so | 18:35 |
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| sledges | ofono-rules packages in HA repo | 18:35 |
| locusf | but the modem systems are the same | 18:35 |
| sledges | can't remember exact names | 18:35 |
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| sledges | they aren't, one uses CBS the other doesn't ;) | 18:36 |
| locusf | arghh :D | 18:36 |
| locusf | the kernel modem subsystems I meant | 18:36 |
| sledges | yes | 18:36 |
| locusf | so the ofono driver gets picked for both n9(50) and n900 | 18:37 |
| locusf | since they have the same modem subsystems | 18:37 |
| sledges | so an ofono rules package in nemo:devel:n900 provides plugins/ofono.rules | 18:37 |
| sledges | with n900 there | 18:37 |
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| locusf | no its here: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/blob/master/ofono/plugins/ofono.rules | 18:37 |
| sledges | this is overwritten on your system | 18:37 |
| sledges | by a separate per-device package | 18:37 |
| sledges | ofono-configs | 18:37 |
| sledges | can't remember names | 18:37 |
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| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n900/udev-rules-n900/10-n900-ofono.rules?expand=1 | 18:38 |
| sledges | there we are ;) | 18:38 |
| locusf | theres only ofono-configs-mer for n950 | 18:39 |
| sledges | says who? | 18:39 |
| sledges | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n950-n9/udev-rules-n950/10-n950-ofono.rules?expand=1 | 18:39 |
| sledges | :) | 18:39 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/nemo:devel:hw:ti:omap3:n950-n9/udev-rules-n950/10-n950-ofono.rules?expand=1 | 18:39 |
| locusf | ah | 18:39 |
| locusf | same file | 18:40 |
| sledges | :D | 18:40 |
| locusf | it still doesn't differentiate | 18:40 |
| sledges | because you should change it yourself | 18:40 |
| sledges | patch with http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.ofono/11884 | 18:40 |
| sledges | and then they'll do their job | 18:40 |
| locusf | ok I accept this | 18:40 |
| sledges | :) | 18:40 |
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| sledges | locusf: we could stay as-is, if the world would guarantee n900 to work without cbs too ;) | 18:41 |
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| sledges | but it was there for a reason i suppose, sad that for such a small change we have to go those extra miles | 18:43 |
| locusf | sledges: ok so | 18:47 |
| locusf | sledges: I can now change the driver by modifying that udev rule | 18:48 |
| locusf | for n950 | 18:48 |
| sledges | yepz | 18:48 |
| locusf | and create a new file for ofono plugins n950, which is identical to n900 modem but has cbs creation disabled | 18:48 |
| locusf | and then make a PR out of that | 18:49 |
| sledges | also has gpio functions renamed | 18:49 |
| sledges | and ofono's n950 selection in udev.c | 18:50 |
| sledges | yes | 18:50 |
| locusf | I probably don't have to rename the gpio functions at all | 18:51 |
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| sledges | yes, just to rub it in ;) | 18:52 |
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| locusf | ok compiled | 19:03 |
| locusf | now testing with changed udev rule and new n950 driver :) | 19:03 |
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| locusf | all good | 19:07 |
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| sledges | cool! | 19:09 |
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| locusf | endif | 19:12 |
| locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/ofono/pull/265 | 19:12 |
| locusf | also: https://build.merproject.org/request/show/691 | 19:13 |
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| locusf | phew | 19:18 |
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| locusf | glad thats fixed now | 19:19 |
| locusf | sledges: thanks for the comments and ride-along :) | 19:22 |
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| locusf | sledges: have you got power on nemomobile-packages? | 19:31 |
| sledges | nope | 19:31 |
| sledges | they are sensitive stuffs ;) | 19:31 |
| sledges | upstreamz and all | 19:31 |
| locusf | yup | 19:32 |
| sledges | it's usually a maintainer per project also | 19:32 |
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| vakkov | confession: i like x11/qt4 nemo on the n900 more than sfos on maguro :D | 19:47 |
| vakkov | locusf: sledges: actualy got hybris gpu built against ics on the n900. only the gpu... my crappy sd card f*cked the things back then | 19:50 |
| vakkov | aaand the sources are on my old hdd but it shouldn't be hard to patch ics again | 19:51 |
| vakkov | if there is a good reverse engineer who can hex edit the n9's jb libs it would be nice. i know it sounds ridiculous but the difference between the ics version of the two gpu's (rev 121 and rev 125) is not big :D | 19:52 |
| locusf | sounds like fun :) | 19:56 |
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| hedayat | hi locusf! | 20:20 |
| hedayat | I'm reading the backlog, and wanted to add something regarding n900 plugin, | 20:21 |
| hedayat | The plugin from ofono-1.12 works fine on N9, and I assume that it should have worked on N900 too | 20:22 |
| hedayat | So it's *possible* that ofono-1.14 has problems with N900 too. | 20:22 |
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| hedayat | hmmm, and I'm pretty sure that N9 modem supports CBS (if it is CellBroadcastService) | 20:51 |
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| Morpog_PC | so, any of you guys pledged for the Jolla tablet? | 21:45 |
| * Stskeeps didn't, yet.. way too shitty connection at slush | 21:47 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 21:47 |
| * w00t will, but hasn't yet | 21:47 | |
| * Wizzup prefers sending more money to the neo900 :) | 21:47 | |
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| Morpog_PC | I was in a meeting and pledged in there :D | 21:48 |
| sandsmark | what kind of GPU does the neo900 use? | 21:48 |
| Morpog_PC | same as n900 I guess | 21:49 |
| sandsmark | hmm, no, a TI DM3730 | 21:49 |
| sandsmark | ugh, powervr sgx | 21:50 |
| sandsmark | never going to get a free driver, I guess | 21:50 |
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| sandsmark | the jolla tablet uses some intel stuff with free drivers, afaik? | 21:56 |
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| Morpog_PC | yes and no | 21:56 |
| M4rtinK | well AFAIK there are some free drivers for it or at least a possibility of them in the future | 21:56 |
| sandsmark | the project for it seems dead | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | jollu uses libhybris and closed android driver | 21:57 |
| Stskeeps | i personally plan on having a mesa and libhybris side by side configuration | 21:57 |
| sandsmark | Morpog_PC: not for the tablet? | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | sure | 21:57 |
| M4rtinK | but Sailfish OS is going the libhybris route again | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | for it | 21:57 |
| sandsmark | why? | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | performance | 21:57 |
| sandsmark | it uses intel hardware | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | stability | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | driver support | 21:57 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: that would be much appreciated! :) | 21:57 |
| Morpog_PC | you can still hack it to use the free driver it seems | 21:57 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: I can really see people wanting to run alternative distros on it and this can help a lot! :) | 21:58 |
| sandsmark | yeah, at least it will be a possibility | 21:58 |
| Stskeeps | M4rtinK: i'm fairly sure it'll just work with the right mesa setup | 21:58 |
| M4rtinK | and who knows, the open stack might overtake the closed one, etc. | 21:58 |
| Morpog_PC | dual booting the beast wouold be cool | 21:58 |
| Stskeeps | any help welcome, incl packaging work of a i945(i think) compatible mesa | 21:59 |
| M4rtinK | Stskeeps: nice! :) | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'll be happy to test on device | 21:59 |
| Morpog_PC | btw, pardon the evil question Stskeeps: would it boot windows? :D | 21:59 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: no. maybe kvm? | 21:59 |
| Morpog_PC | ah ok, thought maybe it could given all that atom windows tabelts lately | 22:00 |
| M4rtinK | well it has the hardware visualization instructions needed for KVM :) | 22:00 |
| sandsmark | I doubt that it is easy to rip out the windows installation from a atom tablet | 22:00 |
| Morpog_PC | erm, install via USB OTG? | 22:00 |
| Morpog_PC | works fine on my dell venue 8 pro | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | don't make me try that | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 22:01 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 22:01 |
| Stskeeps | anyhow: libdrm, mesa, all that stuff: we need recent packages for it, mer's is configured for llvmpipe exclusively | 22:02 |
| Stskeeps | if you have a hd graphics it probably matches | 22:02 |
| M4rtinK | looks like that the baytrail tablets can boot from USB just fine: https://www.happyassassin.net/fedlet-a-fedora-remix-for-bay-trail-tablets/ | 22:02 |
| M4rtinK | see "Booting from USB on Venue 8 Pro" | 22:02 |
| stephg | Stskeeps: naive question: packaging all of that: how much of that is 'work' work versus just an exercise in cobbling spec files/repos etc? | 22:03 |
| Morpog_PC | I can even enter UEFI with touch support on that beast | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | spec files+repos work and waiting for stuff to fail | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: ooi, how? | 22:03 |
| stephg | ok so not entirely work work | 22:03 |
| Morpog_PC | it got a mouse and VKB in there | 22:03 |
| sandsmark | Morpog_PC: I mean copy out the windows installation, to get it onto the jolla tablet :p | 22:03 |
| Stskeeps | stephg: mostly packaging in practice | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | what else is there.. | 22:04 |
| Stskeeps | KMS and qt5 | 22:04 |
| Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, see from second 0:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQLtkl_VyzM&hd=1 | 22:05 |
| Stskeeps | ah it's like reboot into uefo? | 22:06 |
| Morpog_PC | sandsmark, well, that should be easy with some bootable acronis :D | 22:06 |
| Stskeeps | uefi | 22:06 |
| Morpog_PC | Stskeeps, yep | 22:06 |
| sandsmark | Morpog_PC: haha | 22:07 |
| sandsmark | true | 22:07 |
| Morpog_PC | sandsmark, check the video I posted | 22:07 |
| Morpog_PC | but you can also do some button tricks to enter UEFI | 22:08 |
| Morpog_PC | and also a hidden diagnosis mode | 22:08 |
| sandsmark | haha, ok, that's kind of cool | 22:08 |
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| sandsmark | not that I really want windows on a tablet.. | 22:09 |
| Morpog_PC | bad thing about the dell venue 8 pro is it's 32bit uefi, which no linux really supports | 22:09 |
| sandsmark | heh, ok | 22:09 |
| Stskeeps | this is for sure a 64bit uefi :P | 22:09 |
| Morpog_PC | yeah, I guess Intel switched on all later cpu's to 64bit uefi support | 22:10 |
| M4rtinK | nice ! less crazy nonstandard shit is always good :) | 22:12 |
| Morpog_PC | true | 22:12 |
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| stephg | bed time, gnight nemo peeps, happy jolla day and see you all in a few hours | 22:49 |
| M4rtinK | good night! :) | 22:49 |
| stephg | :) | 22:49 |
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| sledges | locusf: always a pleasure to help if i can, hope ofono maintainers will be the same as crazy and accept the PR :D | 23:21 |
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