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| vakkov | is it still possible to have a qt4 target | 03:02 |
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| vakkov | for an old qt4 x11 release | 03:02 |
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| hedayat | hi! :P | 07:15 |
| filippz | hedayat: o/ | 07:45 |
| filippz | hedayat: I'm thinking of reverting kernel back to landscape for N9 - but that would mean reintroducing fbset-n9.service for SailfishOS builds - any thoughts? | 07:49 |
| filippz | locusf: I've noticed another glitch with rotation - when swiping away from apps, wrong gesture is reported in different orientations | 07:54 |
| Stskeeps | gah.. and of course, when having one xulrunner fixed, other stuff starts breaking.. :P | 07:55 |
| filippz | locusf: meaning that the down gesture for closing is not OK - I'll send a PR for this in a few minutes | 07:55 |
| filippz | Stskeeps: Murphy's law :) | 07:58 |
| Stskeeps | filippz: i call this kind of work distribution jenga.. | 08:01 |
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| filippz | Stskeeps: yup, that sums it up nicely | 08:06 |
| faenil | morning | 08:10 |
| filippz | locusf: Can you reproduce this: when in landscape orientation start qmlsettings (they are landscape also). Close qmlsettings change orinetation to portrait and start qmlsettings again - they are still in landscape?! Close it and start it again and - they are in portrait now? | 08:10 |
| filippz | faenil: morning o/ | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | morn faenil | 08:11 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: https://build.merproject.org/project/show/mer-core:i486:devel | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | will fix python in a moment which will break everything | 08:24 |
| Stskeeps | but otherwise \oooo/ | 08:24 |
| faenil | :) | 08:24 |
| faenil | \o/ | 08:25 |
| hedayat | morning faenil | 08:27 |
| faenil | morning | 08:27 |
| hedayat | filippz, I think having fbset-n9.service is not a big deal :) | 08:27 |
| hedayat | It'd be great if we could somehow patch SFOS to make it portrait without changing framebuffer rotation too | 08:28 |
| hedayat | but, well, without much trouble ;) | 08:28 |
| filippz | hedayat: OK, reverting fb will make glesplash work also | 08:32 |
| filippz | as for rotation from qt - you can see in glacier how much small fixes are needed (mostly becasue we wan to rotate dynamically - but still...) | 08:33 |
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| Stskeeps | ok, python committed | 08:46 |
| Stskeeps | let's see how this builds now.. | 08:46 |
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| SK_work | deztructor: hi ! | 08:59 |
| SK_work | can you give me a crash course on statefs ? | 08:59 |
| SK_work | (cf yesterday's discussion about orientation in emulator) | 09:00 |
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| locusf | filippz: sorry, can only test in 5 hours :/ | 09:09 |
| locusf | merged your pr though | 09:10 |
| filippz | locusf: np, thanks for merging :) | 09:10 |
| locusf | also morning all :) | 09:12 |
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| SK_work | morning | 09:15 |
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| deztructor | SK_work: first, there is https://nemomobile.github.io/statefs/ (need to update it periodically if there is no autodoc yet) | 09:33 |
| deztructor | Do you want to understand client-side or provider-side? | 09:33 |
| SK_work | deztructor: haha | 09:33 |
| SK_work | thanks | 09:33 |
| SK_work | well | 09:33 |
| SK_work | we discussed abotu being able to emulate screen rotation in Sailfish emulator | 09:33 |
| SK_work | what's in place ATM | 09:33 |
| SK_work | I guess client side | 09:33 |
| deztructor | SK_work: so, first: https://nemomobile.github.io/statefs/group__inout__loader.html | 09:34 |
| SK_work | so I need to write a provider that connects to a "controller" to emulate these actions isn't it ? | 09:34 |
| deztructor | then - https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs-providers/tree/master/inout | 09:34 |
| SK_work | do you know what's done ATM ? is there a dummy provider for orientation ? | 09:36 |
| SK_work | (let's start with orientation, we can do more stuff later, like network switching for example) | 09:36 |
| deztructor | SK_work: it seems there is only https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs-providers/blob/master/inout/inout_mode_control.conf, so there is not prop for orientation yet | 09:37 |
| SK_work | deztructor: hum ok | 09:38 |
| SK_work | the inout only expose statefs properties isn't it | 09:39 |
| SK_work | how to change them ? | 09:39 |
| deztructor | SK_work: when you are using inout, it creates namespace with @ prefix for input (to avoid mixing of RW props with inout write-only side) | 09:41 |
| jonwil | Looks like the leaked PowerVR stuff has caused a bit of a kerfuffle with the guy who posted the original git repo (the contents of which seem to have come from a tarball on the LG open source website) being sent legal threats by some guy who claims "I worked on PowerVR for N9 and I think sharing this code is bad" | 09:42 |
| deztructor | SK_work: you can try to install any inout provider and play with /run/state/ | 09:42 |
| jonwil | oops, wrong channel | 09:42 |
| jonwil | :P | 09:42 |
| SK_work | so echo "stuff" > /run/state/<something> | 09:42 |
| Stskeeps | jonwil: libv? | 09:42 |
| jonwil | yep | 09:42 |
| deztructor | SK_work: e.g. echo "stuff" > /run/state/namespaces/@Cellular/SignalStrength | 09:42 |
| SK_work | ok | 09:43 |
| SK_work | @something is for input | 09:43 |
| deztructor | and you get it reflected in the /run/state/namespaces/Cellular/SignalStrength | 09:43 |
| SK_work | and something is for output | 09:43 |
| SK_work | ok | 09:43 |
| deztructor | yep | 09:43 |
| SK_work | so, I need to write some statefs config files | 09:43 |
| jonwil | Seems like firstly he is on a mission to make every single copy of that leaked code vanish and to tell anyone who downloaded it to delete it | 09:43 |
| * deztructor is going to hunt for smb. to eat :) | 09:43 | |
| SK_work | write a system daemon that listen to the controller app, and this system daemon just write into these @<something> files | 09:43 |
| Stskeeps | somebody..? | 09:43 |
| deztructor | SK_work: yes, and you can see examples in https://github.com/nemomobile/statefs-providers/blob/master/inout and in rpm spec - how to install it (generated by python script inside rpm dir) | 09:44 |
| SK_work | perfect | 09:45 |
| SK_work | sound easier than expected | 09:45 |
| deztructor | Stskeeps: I think this smb. is already catched and cooked by predators from sodexo :) | 09:45 |
| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AitBsNDuM8Q | 09:46 |
| jonwil | Secondly he is saying that because of the leaked code, it is now impossible to write a FOSS clean usable PowerVR driver (since its impossible to prove that said driver doesn't use any of the leaked stuff). That to me sounds like BS as there are plenty of examples of FOSS projects where there is also "leaked" code out there for the same thing. | 09:46 |
| deztructor | SK_work: hopefully :) so, basically there can be any script echoing data into corresponding props | 09:46 |
| * deztructor is blown away by wind... | 09:47 | |
| SK_work | :) | 09:47 |
| jonwil | The FOSS community has experience in how to track the code back to where it came from so it can be proven leaked code wasn't used. | 09:47 |
| jonwil | And thirdly he seems to say "dont bother writing a driver for PowerVR, PowerVR is such a mess that every single part that has a PowerVR core in it has a totally different set of compile options and microcode and getting everything right is impossible" | 09:48 |
| jonwil | Why he is so against the idea of a FOSS PowerVR driver is beyond me... | 09:48 |
| hurrian | jonwil: he doesn't like ImgTec for the crap they continue to pull with PowerVR, apparently | 09:56 |
| hurrian | that plus a bias for working with the Mali GPU (Lima open driver), which is admittedly nicer to work with | 09:58 |
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| stephg | yup | 09:59 |
| stephg | scarred perhaps too ;) | 09:59 |
| hurrian | also, I was surprised to see that nvidia's leading the way in having an open source GPU driver in the kernel | 10:03 |
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| Stskeeps | hurrian: welcome to the upside down world.. | 10:03 |
| hurrian | not too long ago (Tegra 2), they were the absolute worst SoC vendor to deal with | 10:04 |
| bencoh | even broadcom is releasing opensource videocore drivers (and wifi drivers too) | 10:05 |
| bencoh | it's ... upside down world indeed :] | 10:05 |
| hurrian | ...and Atheros, a long-time friend of OSS, is going the other way with required firmware on ath10k. | 10:06 |
| bencoh | yeah :/ | 10:07 |
| hurrian | (ever since being swallowed whole by Qualcomm, who blows in terms of community cooperation) | 10:07 |
| bencoh | (qualcomm eventually killed them I guess) | 10:07 |
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| jonwil | What about http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/10/31/2035220/qualcomm-begins-contributing-to-reverse-engineered-freedreno-linux-driver' | 10:17 |
| jonwil | ? | 10:17 |
| jonwil | Doesn't that signal a change at Qualcomm to be less crap? | 10:17 |
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| Stskeeps | jonwil: i think it's more over that you end up in a situation where your own driver might be conflicting with 'taken into kernel' drivers.. | 10:25 |
| Stskeeps | so it's better to improve what's there | 10:25 |
| jonwil | I think qualcomm is an Android house these days and is less interested in Linux | 10:26 |
| jonwil | so if they can get someone else to maintain the Linux kernel bits so Qualcomm doesn't have to, its good for Qualcomm | 10:26 |
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| filippz | hedayat: I've just remembered - if we rotate kernel back to portrait, we should also loose QT_QPA_EVDEV_TOUCHSCREEN_PARAMETERS="rotate=90" in 60-n9-n950-ui.conf | 11:39 |
| filippz | would it be acceptable to append that line from ks directly? | 11:40 |
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| * tbr now has a working nexus 7 again! ripped out the broken display and glued in the replacement that arrived today \o/ | 12:40 | |
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| filippz | locusf: seems that the booster is to blame for odd behaviour of apps (ie qmlsettings) I mentioned - it seems that chached ApplicationWindow "remembers" old orientation | 12:53 |
| filippz | but how is that it remembers orientation for just one time, and is ok the next time you start it...?! | 12:54 |
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| hedayat | filippz, OK, thanks. Yes, that's just fine. I'd prefer to do close OS hacks inside their .ks. :P | 13:03 |
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| filippz | hedayat: OK, I'll move to landscape orientation and provide ks for both nemo and sailfish to match in a day or so | 13:14 |
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| hedayat | filippz, thanks :) I hope to be able to put my changes into .ks soon too | 13:22 |
| hedayat | then will start to fight with ti wayland driver | 13:22 |
| hedayat | filippz, locusf haven't you experienced UI crashes in Nemo on N9? I don't feel that they affect Sailfish only. | 13:23 |
| filippz | hedayat: no crashes here :) I've been playing with rotation and restarted lipstick about 1000 times without errors in wayland/pvr drivers | 13:27 |
| filippz | but I use it in landscape mode mainly, because of glesplash and kernel messages from display | 13:27 |
| filippz | Also I did your "sed" command in and effort to get list of wireless networks in qmlsettings but that didn't help - I haven't investigated further | 13:29 |
| hedayat | filippz, did you restart after sed ing? hmmmm and I'm not sure if I saw the list in qmlsettings. But I could see them in glacier UI by touching the wireless icon | 13:31 |
| filippz | hedayat: restarted, but didn't try wireless icon - I'll try it now | 13:32 |
| hedayat | I've not experienced UI crashes in portrait Nemo too. But I guessed that maybe Sailfish uses more graphics effects and is more complex and that might be the reason. Anyway, I should see how debugging proceeds. | 13:34 |
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| hedayat | If it turns out that the problems is with SFOS only, I might focus my efforts somewhere else. | 13:38 |
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| filippz | hedayat: wifi icon becomes blue and nothing else when i touch it - as if turned on - WiFi settings page states "Wireless networking is unavailable" | 13:39 |
| filippz | dmesg show no activity from wlan, and ifconfig doesn't list it | 13:39 |
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| filippz | but dmesg shows some "pvr: lipstick: IOCTL 20 failed (1)" now and then - maybe when stopping starting lisptick - I haven't seen any effects of it in UI | 13:41 |
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| filippz | ifconfig wlan0 up does make it load it's firmware - but there is still nothing in qlmsettings | 13:49 |
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| hedayat | filippz, hmmm I should try again. I don't remember the details now; maybe I've done something else... | 14:01 |
| filippz | hedayat: don't bother, I'll find it later today - I have to go for now | 14:02 |
| hedayat | filippz, interesting, IIRC "pvr: lipstick: IOCTL 20 failed (1)" causes a crash in SFOS immediately because of an assert on the original function call!! | 14:02 |
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| hedayat | filippz, ok :) | 14:02 |
| hedayat | (the call is in ti-omap-wayland (whatever!) package) | 14:02 |
| filippz | hedayat: I'm not sure if I got these messages in landscape or portrait - we'll find out when we switch to portrait for sure :) | 14:04 |
| hedayat | :) yaeh, ok | 14:05 |
| filippz | this looks broken: lipstick[640]: [D] NetworkManager::getTechnology:534 - Technology "wifi" doesn't exist | 14:07 |
| filippz | well I'm off for now... o/ | 14:07 |
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| locusf | argh just got back | 14:19 |
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| locusf | seems that Alien dalvik is getting some special handling inside lipstick https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/pull/214 | 14:24 |
| hedayat | locusf, might be useful if someday we had our own Android compatibility layer! | 14:26 |
| locusf | hedayat: yup | 14:27 |
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| hedayat | I should go, bye | 14:29 |
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| locusf | ok bye :) | 14:30 |
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| hedayat | filippz: hi again! What does 'iwlist scan' produce? | 19:20 |
| filippz | hedayat: I just fixed wifi :) | 19:21 |
| hedayat | filippz: :) what was the problem? | 19:21 |
| filippz | user nemo must be in users group or the call dbus-send --system --dest=net.connman --print-reply / net.connman.Manager.GetTechnologies would fail | 19:22 |
| filippz | also I had to issue /usr/lib/connman/test/test-connman enable wifi manually | 19:22 |
| hedayat | filippz: oh yeah, you should have done it sooner! It was required to get some other things to work too. I just doesn't remember what was it. probably ofono also needed it. | 19:22 |
| filippz | hedayat: I used my fresh build with portrait kernel and glesplash and your sed at_console command in ks | 19:23 |
| hedayat | filippz: probably my sed command also assumed users group too (I don't remember what was it!). | 19:23 |
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| filippz | I just added sed -i 's/at_console="true"/group="users"/g' /etc/dbus-1/system.d/* in ks and user --groups=audio,video,users --name=nemo --password=nemo | 19:24 |
| hedayat | filippz: aha. I've told faenil that nemo user should be added to users group, but I don't remember where it was supposed to be fixed. | 19:24 |
| hedayat | filippz: that's good | 19:25 |
| filippz | I just added it to ks :) | 19:25 |
| filippz | I have to just figure out why /usr/lib/connman/test/test-connman enable wifi is needed | 19:25 |
| hedayat | filippz: hmmm IIRC such groups should be listed somewhere else, where nemo user was added to multiple groups. it was used by oneshot binary or something like it. I don't remember right now. Adding it to .ks is more like a temporary solution. | 19:27 |
| hedayat | filippz: What happens when you try to turn wifi on/off in UI? Might produce some dbus errors too! | 19:28 |
| filippz | hedayat: I'll try now, on the other hand - no pvr errors in dmesg for now :) | 19:29 |
| filippz | nothing suspicious regarding wifi when I play with wlan icon - but when starting lipstick there is NetworkManager::getTechnology:534 - Technology "wifi" doesn't exist | 19:33 |
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| filippz | I was sure that it was premission issue, but it seems to be something else. I'll look into that later on | 19:34 |
| filippz | well - I'm off - see you all tomorrow | 19:38 |
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| hedayat | filippz: ok, thanks! | 19:46 |
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| SfietKonstantin | deztructor: for information, you cannot install cellular inout packages in Sailfish emulator, as it uninstalls ofono provider, and leads to uninstalling lipstick-jolla-home | 21:16 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | who to ping around for this issue ? | 21:17 |
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| Oksana | Good morning | 21:37 |
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| phaeron | Sfiet_Konstantin: try forcing it temporarily | 21:52 |
| phaeron | Sfiet_Konstantin: what's the zypper error ? | 21:52 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | phaeron: I could | 21:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | but not nice | 21:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | it is a simple conflicts | 21:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | between ofono and inout statefs providers | 21:53 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | phaeron: probably need less strict dependency in lipstick-jolla-home side | 21:53 |
| phaeron | I'll have a look tomorrow where the conflicts really is | 21:54 |
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| deztructor | Sfiet_Konstantin, phaeron: jolla home: Requires: statefs-provider-ofono >= 0.2.62 | 22:17 |
| deztructor | while it should depend on statefs-provider-cellular | 22:17 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | deztructor: yep | 22:18 |
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| deztructor | quite easy to fix, afaik just should be checked ofono provider is explicitely listed in patterns to avoid replacement | 22:22 |
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