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| * faenil is connected via the new cat5e cable! (cc tbr kimmoli ) | 12:56 | |
| tbr | faenil: how's the snr? | 12:56 |
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| faenil | tbr: the "standard" value is the same as before, which is quite surprising to me | 12:57 |
| faenil | but let's see if it drops like before as well...fingers crossed it doesn't | 12:57 |
| tbr | :-/ | 12:57 |
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| faenil | yeah I Would have expected at least 1db more :( | 12:57 |
| faenil | at least... | 12:57 |
| tbr | let's see how stable it will be | 12:58 |
| bencoh | how long ? | 12:58 |
| faenil | bencoh: about 40mt | 12:59 |
| faenil | tbr: yeah let's see :/ | 12:59 |
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| sledges | locusf: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/qtquickcontrols/pull/2 | 13:39 |
| sledges | close #1 pls (check comment there what to do) | 13:39 |
| sledges | and delete qqc from nemo-ux, we should keep things tidy and hold upstream packages manageable under -packages | 13:39 |
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| sledges | faenil: db is an exponential metric ;) | 13:41 |
| faenil | sledges: I know well ;I) | 13:42 |
| faenil | sledges: and it's exactly for that reason that I expected 1db more, not 10 :p | 13:42 |
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| sledges | :D | 13:42 |
| sledges | isn't actual increase by 1 db depend on how you have now?;) | 13:42 |
| sledges | btw | 13:42 |
| sledges | 18:30 <@faenil> sledges: ahaha yeah, I'm having fun...though I should really disappear soon, as soon as the boring work is finished :) | 13:42 |
| faenil | the SNR in routers is actually "10 * log_10(sig/noise)" | 13:42 |
| sledges | clingy df mode on: | 13:43 |
| sledges | 18:30 <@faenil> sledges: ahaha yeah, I'm having fun...though I should really disappear soon, as soon as the boring work is finished :) | 13:43 |
| sledges | JUST DON'T YOU EVER DARE TO DISAPPEAR AGAIN :D | 13:43 |
| sledges | clingy gf mode off | 13:43 |
| faenil | lol, what's going on :D | 13:43 |
| sledges | my 2p | 13:43 |
| sledges | :D | 13:43 |
| sledges | or 2db :D | 13:43 |
| faenil | hahah :) | 13:44 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i see fun here | 13:48 |
| sledges | always fun with Italians;) | 13:50 |
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| faenil | is there any way I can convince libreoffice Calc that it MUST NOT convert my 12.6 to 12.06.00 time format? | 13:54 |
| faenil | it's making my SNR analysis more difficult than it should have been :P | 13:54 |
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| sledges | Format Cell, number (+decimal) | 13:57 |
| sledges | faenil: ^ | 13:57 |
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| faenil | sledges: nope, doesn't help | 13:57 |
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| faenil | that takes 12.6, converts it to 12.06.00, and then converts it to number, giving 0,50something | 13:58 |
| SK_work | Oo | 14:02 |
| SK_work | faenil: ever tried entering 12,6 instead ? | 14:02 |
| SK_work | either use a mass replace | 14:02 |
| faenil | they say I should prefix all items with ' so that they're interpreted as text | 14:02 |
| faenil | SK_work: yes it works with the comma, tried already | 14:02 |
| SK_work | faenil: do you want a number or a text ? plus from where does this data comes from | 14:02 |
| faenil | but I don't intend to script replace all my files | 14:02 |
| faenil | my logs | 14:03 |
| SK_work | faenil: finally, tried changing the separator in your localization settings ? | 14:03 |
| SK_work | faenil: windows or linux ? | 14:03 |
| faenil | win | 14:03 |
| SK_work | faenil: in both OS you should be able to find localization settings, change the "number separator" here from , to . | 14:03 |
| SK_work | settings panel > clock language region > change date format, time or number > additional settings > set the "." instead of "," here | 14:05 |
| faenil | all this because they can't have a "disable automatic dumb conversions" :( | 14:07 |
| SK_work | faenil: well, the conversion isn't that dumb :) | 14:07 |
| SK_work | your number formatting is wrong | 14:07 |
| faenil | SK_work: it's coming directly from routers, it's not mine | 14:08 |
| SK_work | please tell to the american (or the europeans) that a point (or a comma) is a bad way to separate decimal part for a number | 14:08 |
| SK_work | faenil: what comes from routers ? | 14:08 |
| faenil | 12.6 and similar | 14:08 |
| SK_work | faenil: I told you how to fix the separator issue :) | 14:08 |
| SK_work | gave it a try ? | 14:08 |
| faenil | I'm trying...rebooting libreoffice as it didn't make a diff | 14:08 |
| SK_work | faenil: maybe rebooting windows is needed ;) | 14:09 |
| faenil | mmm ok, don't want to reboot now | 14:10 |
| faenil | rebooting libreoffice didn't help | 14:10 |
| faenil | anyway, it's not like using a dot as a decimal separator is "unlike" (TM) | 14:10 |
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| SK_work | faenil: in France (europe ?) we use , | 14:12 |
| SK_work | please respect our difference :) | 14:12 |
| SK_work | and run sed in your logs | 14:12 |
| SK_work | :P | 14:12 |
| faenil | SK_work: routers from different brands use "." | 14:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | SK_work, is not in locales this infos ? | 14:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for anglosaxons | 14:12 |
| dr_gogeta86 | here in italy due this thing | 14:12 |
| SK_work | dr_gogeta86: I asked faenil to change the separator, didn't help | 14:13 |
| SK_work | :( | 14:13 |
| faenil | so I'd say it's quite common, so common you shouldn't make it automatic | 14:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | for a 10,00 euro fee | 14:13 |
| SK_work | faenil: because router brands are all american ? :) | 14:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | we made a bank order of 10000 euro | 14:13 |
| faenil | SK_work: and you think America is a small country you can ignore? :) | 14:13 |
| dr_gogeta86 | faenil, use timestamp | 14:13 |
| SK_work | faenil: as I have said: we are different | 14:13 |
| faenil | dr_gogeta86: you misunderstood, I have a number, I don't want a timestamp :P | 14:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | as rule | 14:14 |
| SK_work | they are ruling the IT world since the beginning, so they are overwhelming us | 14:14 |
| SK_work | (proof: we are using english :)) | 14:14 |
| faenil | SK_work: of course...hence me saying why doesn't libreoffice give the option? | 14:14 |
| dr_gogeta86 | they rule tnx Agnelli family ( FIAT now FCA owners ) | 14:14 |
| SK_work | faenil: I think that libreoffice is based on system localizaton | 14:14 |
| faenil | anyway, it's basing on locale, so it makes sense, maybe it works after win reboot | 14:14 |
| SK_work | but for an unknown reason it is not picking it up | 14:15 |
| faenil | SK_work: indeed it is, but if it doesn't work after changing locale options :D | 14:15 |
| SK_work | or does it have it's own localization settings ? | 14:15 |
| faenil | SK_work: yeah | 14:15 |
| SK_work | (checked in LO settings ?) | 14:15 |
| SK_work | faenil: maybe it is windows who is dumb ? | 14:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Languages | 14:15 |
| SK_work | or LO ? | 14:15 |
| SK_work | or both ? | 14:15 |
| faenil | I read this "LibreOffice Calc automatically converts certain entries to dates. For example, the entry 1.1 may be interpreted as January 1 of the current year, according to the locale settings of your operating system, and then displayed according to the date format applied to the cell. To ensure that an entry is interpreted as text, add an apostrophe at the beginning of the entry. The apostrophe is not displayed in the cell." | 14:15 |
| dr_gogeta86 | better use LO | 14:15 |
| Stskeeps | don't assume that these things are harmless.. does anybody remember the 10+5E jolla order numbers? | 14:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:16 |
| faenil | hahaha I almost forgot that :) | 14:16 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ahhaha | 14:16 |
| SK_work | ? | 14:17 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, you fix that ? | 14:17 |
| Stskeeps | i certainly hope so | 14:17 |
| SK_work | which one ? I didn't remember :( | 14:17 |
| faenil | SK_work: DHL sent emails like "congrats for your Jolla order! Order number: 1.5*e+10" | 14:18 |
| faenil | in preorders phase | 14:18 |
| SK_work | like 1.5e+10 written like this ? | 14:19 |
| faenil | don't remember if it was DHL of who else | 14:19 |
| SK_work | :/ | 14:19 |
| faenil | yep | 14:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | dhl i found email | 14:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hipped ByTracking Number | 14:20 |
| dr_gogeta86 | JollaFedex7.97392E+11 | 14:20 |
| faenil | haha | 14:20 |
| SK_work | :( | 14:20 |
| faenil | phdeswer: ping | 14:23 |
| phdeswer | hi faenil! | 14:23 |
| faenil | phdeswer: yo man :) | 14:23 |
| phdeswer | What can I help you with today ;) | 14:24 |
| faenil | phdeswer: quick question, do you agree that dsme should "Requires:" usb-moded since in its .service there is "After= usb-moded.service" | 14:24 |
| faenil | ? | 14:24 |
| phdeswer | Well not based on that alone. But I think dsme's battery tracking also uses usb-moded to check charger connection etc. But I need to check that | 14:25 |
| faenil | phdeswer: ok, thanks for confirming, I'll send a PR to dsme then ;) | 14:27 |
| phdeswer | faenil: yep please do. You can mention the usbtracker module depends on it | 14:28 |
| phdeswer | It won't cause disasters if it is missing though. | 14:28 |
| faenil | phdeswer: it will, nemo ks wasn't installing usb-moded because there was no dependency, so dsme never got to run | 14:29 |
| phdeswer | faenil: Oh yes indeed. Another case where things should not break in boot but systemd just can't help it. | 14:30 |
| faenil | well, if you say it has to run after a service ,and servicedoesn't exist... | 14:30 |
| phdeswer | faenil: yes. But that is ordering. It does not Require: the service.. So if the After service does not exist, it should not care about it. | 14:31 |
| faenil | phdeswer: mmm, not sure I agree but yes, you have a point | 14:31 |
| phdeswer | faenil: well I can understand why you might not want it. But imagine the situation that you order for performance reasons. For example you have two different services starting at the same time using too much IO or competing for the same resources. But if they do not depend in any way on each other, the ordering is void if one of them is missing and that does not mean the service should not be started. | 14:33 |
| faenil | phdeswer: yes I agree | 14:34 |
| phdeswer | But in any case since dsme's usb tracker is included by default the Requires: in the rpm should be there ;) | 14:36 |
| faenil | :) | 14:36 |
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| locusf | sledges: we decided to move to a newer upstream too, should I pr that as well? | 14:52 |
| faenil | phdeswer: dsme BuildRequires dsme of an older version? | 14:55 |
| faenil | (older or equal) | 14:55 |
| faenil | nah, >= 0.6.3, what's the sense? | 14:56 |
| phdeswer | faenil: I think it used to require a dsme dev package... Or still does. | 14:56 |
| faenil | ok, pkgconfig(dsme >= 0.63) | 14:57 |
| faenil | just saying, because the built rpm fails to install on the i486 target | 14:57 |
| faenil | '_tmpRPMcache_:dsme=0:0.67.0-0' not found in package names. Trying capabilities. No provider of 'dsme = 0:0.67.0-0' found. | 14:57 |
| phdeswer | Yep requires https://github.com/nemomobile/libdsme | 14:58 |
| faenil | ok | 14:58 |
| faenil | I wonder why the installation fails | 14:58 |
| phdeswer | faenil: do you have a longer install log? As from what you posted it just seems the package does not exist | 15:00 |
| phdeswer | Or somehow the dependencies are not generated correctly there. | 15:00 |
| faenil | that's all it say | 15:04 |
| faenil | says | 15:04 |
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| faenil | I don't understand why though, dsme is a build requires, not an install requires | 15:05 |
| phdeswer | faenil: well install during the image generation you mean right? Seems it does not find a dsme with the right version. I wonder what that extra 0: is. | 15:06 |
| faenil | no install via zypper install I mean | 15:06 |
| sledges | locusf: sure, first merge #2, afterwards just update it (like libhybris), need help? | 15:06 |
| faenil | in the sdk i486 target | 15:07 |
| faenil | phdeswer: zypper install generatedRPM.rpm | 15:07 |
| locusf | sledges: I'll let you know if I do :) | 15:07 |
| phdeswer | faenil: try with rpm -Uvh generatedRPM.rpm (after copying it to the device) it might tell more | 15:08 |
| faenil | phdeswer: which device :P | 15:08 |
| sledges | locusf: k | 15:08 |
| sledges | :) | 15:08 |
| phdeswer | faenil: Oh wel in the target then ;) | 15:09 |
| faenil | phdeswer: it says usb-moded is needed | 15:10 |
| faenil | (as i added it in the requires) | 15:10 |
| phdeswer | :D Well that is what you just wanted ;) You can maybe install that one first | 15:10 |
| faenil | phdeswer: zypper install should take of that | 15:12 |
| faenil | it's there for a reason xD | 15:12 |
| faenil | take care* | 15:12 |
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| locusf | didn't usb-moded require the busybox dhcp symlinks? | 15:12 |
| phdeswer | faenil: well yes, but here we are trying to find out why dsme does not install. | 15:12 |
| faenil | locusf: nvm I fixed that already | 15:13 |
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| locusf | faenil: oh you did, great :) | 15:13 |
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| faenil | phdeswer: installing usb-moded didn't help | 15:14 |
| faenil | phdeswer: I think it's just a name clash or something, due to the chroot etc | 15:14 |
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| phdeswer | faenil: could be. I am worried about the extra 0: check what the older dsme versions do... | 15:15 |
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| faenil | ok | 15:15 |
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| faenil | phdeswer: it does it with the current master branch as well | 15:23 |
| faenil | phdeswer: spiiroin https://github.com/nemomobile/dsme/pull/82 | 15:24 |
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| phdeswer | faenil: ok. Maybe some weird obs/rpm issue | 15:34 |
| faenil | phdeswer: can you merge/tag? | 15:37 |
| phdeswer | faenil: I'll check with the dsme maintainer first. But it should go in soon if it is ok. | 15:39 |
| faenil | phdeswer: ok no problem | 15:39 |
| phdeswer | I don't like doing merges on parts I don't manage and where I know somebody else knows it in detail. | 15:40 |
| faenil | fwiw http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23nemomobile/%23nemomobile.2014-10-12.log.html#t2014-10-12T15:37:17 | 15:40 |
| faenil | no problem, I understand ;) we're not in a hurry afterall | 15:41 |
| phdeswer | faenil: ah ok you already discussed it with him :) | 15:42 |
| phdeswer | faenil: on a related note, what's the current state of usb-moded in nemomobile? As last time I looked at in obs it was very old... | 15:45 |
| faenil | phdeswer: https://build.merproject.org/package/show/mer-core:devel/usb-moded | 15:46 |
| faenil | I can update it to use 80.7, fwiw | 15:46 |
| phdeswer | That might be nice. But at least it is not stuck anymore at 0.4x :) | 15:46 |
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| faenil | updated, latest version now | 15:47 |
| phdeswer | faenil: wow. Lighting fast :D | 15:47 |
| faenil | :) | 15:48 |
| faenil | phdeswer: mmm spec says version 0.87, changelog says 0.80.7 | 15:48 |
| faenil | is that intended? | 15:48 |
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| phdeswer | faenil: just noticed that there is a typo in the nemo tag :( | 15:49 |
| faenil | phdeswer: yep :p | 15:50 |
| phdeswer | fixed ;) | 15:51 |
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| locusf | what about the symlinks dep, its still present :P | 15:53 |
| faenil | locusf: it's allright | 15:53 |
| faenil | locusf: there's something which provides it now | 15:53 |
| locusf | oh ok | 15:53 |
| faenil | phdeswer: have you pushed? I still see 0.87 on web ui | 15:54 |
| phdeswer | faenil: I did. maybe the web ui is a bit slow? | 15:54 |
| faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/usb-moded/releases | 15:54 |
| phdeswer | Oh wait I pushed it to the original repo only... | 15:55 |
| faenil | original? | 15:55 |
| faenil | what's the original repo :D | 15:55 |
| faenil | which* | 15:55 |
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| phdeswer | Yep the original usb_moded repo was/is in gitorious. | 15:56 |
| faenil | oh, I see | 15:56 |
| phdeswer | There was a copy made to github as it was predicted that once Nokia stopped paying everything would go. But well that did not happen | 15:56 |
| phdeswer | Now it looks ok :) | 15:56 |
| faenil | :) | 15:57 |
| phdeswer | I hope it will not cause any issues with updates now with the 0.87 version stuff :( | 15:59 |
| phdeswer | Worst bit is that the usual tag has the right version number... | 16:00 |
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| faenil | phdeswer: yeah..fingers crossed for you :) | 16:09 |
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| faenil | locusf: when you want to have fun, you should already be able to create a new image adding usb-moded in the ks | 16:12 |
| faenil | (until dsme PR is merged) | 16:12 |
| faenil | or filippz ^ | 16:14 |
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| kimmoli | faenil: hows the new cable? :) | 16:36 |
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| faenil | kimmoli: standard SNR value is the same it seems... | 16:36 |
| faenil | about the issues, I don't know, connection hasn't dropped so far | 16:36 |
| faenil | but it's too early to say | 16:37 |
| kimmoli | ok | 16:37 |
| faenil | brb | 16:41 |
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| locusf | faenil: will do | 16:55 |
| faenil | cool | 16:55 |
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| locusf | usb-moded is pretty much the key to android adaptations as well | 18:00 |
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| kimmoli | webhooks working again \o/ ... but not bitbucket one >:/ | 19:41 |
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| lbt | yeah, I think that's blacklisted still | 19:43 |
| lbt | I could do with some help validating the new webhooks though | 19:43 |
| lbt | kimmoli: mmm https://build.merproject.org//package/show?package=toholed-settings-ui&project=home:kimmoli:tohs | 19:45 |
| lbt | "8 minutes ago" ? | 19:45 |
| lbt | oh github, nm ... | 19:46 |
| lbt | (the logs are vast so it's hard to see exactly what's going on sometimes) | 19:46 |
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| kimmoli | triggered manually by editing sha in _service, for bitbucet one | 19:51 |
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| lbt | I'll ask phaeron about the IPs to whitelist for bbucket | 19:55 |
| kimmoli | you mean these? https://confluence.atlassian.com/display/BITBUCKET/What+are+the+Bitbucket+IP+addresses+I+should+use+to+configure+my+corporate+firewall | 19:58 |
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| lbt | ep | 20:13 |
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| faenil | lpotter: ping | 21:44 |
| lpotter | pong | 21:44 |
| faenil | my jolla is in wifi connection loop | 21:44 |
| faenil | it says auth failed, but it worked until a few hours ago | 21:44 |
| faenil | and it keeps trying to connect | 21:44 |
| stephg | flightmode? | 21:44 |
| stephg | do nasty things to connman? | 21:45 |
| faenil | I have rebooted the phone already, fwiw | 21:45 |
| stephg | eek and still? | 21:45 |
| faenil | yeah | 21:45 |
| stephg | is there something wrong with the wifi? (i.e. does it work with another device) | 21:45 |
| lpotter | hmm.. what version os? | 21:45 |
| faenil | update8 | 21:45 |
| faenil | I know that you'll say it's very outdated | 21:45 |
| lpotter | :) | 21:46 |
| stephg | ha | 21:46 |
| faenil | but I thought I'd let you know, maybe it's a bug that's still there and hard to reproduce | 21:46 |
| faenil | not my fault if your company doesn't release anything newer :D | 21:46 |
| stephg | meow! | 21:46 |
| lpotter | ya, u9 taking longer than expected | 21:47 |
| faenil | lpotter: yeah I know | 21:47 |
| lpotter | making it just exactly perfect | 21:47 |
| faenil | lpotter: do you want logs/something? otherwise I'll try deleting and readding the network | 21:47 |
| lpotter | logs might be good. but lots of connectivity work done in u9 | 21:47 |
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| faenil | lpotter: the logs begins at 1 MINUTE ago | 21:51 |
| faenil | :( | 21:51 |
| faenil | (because of the connman/wifi spam) | 21:51 |
| faenil | lpotter: http://pastie.org/private/bb0horsnffyyhjufzhhqa | 21:52 |
| faenil | if you want me to install something, be quick as I'm going to bed soon :p :D | 21:54 |
| tigeli | Oct 13 23:49:07 Jolla kernel: wlan: connection failed with 00:00:00:00:00:00 reason:3 and Status:7 | 21:55 |
| tigeli | Oct 13 23:49:07 Jolla kernel: wlan: connection failed with 00:00:00:00:00:00 reason:1 and Status:9 | 21:55 |
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| tigeli | faenil: http://www.aboutcher.co.uk/2012/07/linux-wifi-deauthenticated-reason-codes/ | 21:56 |
| tigeli | faenil: check if rmmod wlan; modprobe wlan helps | 21:56 |
| faenil | tigeli: except we're like 5 people using the AP :D | 21:56 |
| tigeli | faenil: yeah, probably driver gone mad.. | 21:57 |
| faenil | tigeli: that did it! | 21:57 |
| faenil | and a reboot didnt! | 21:57 |
| tigeli | faenil: hah :D | 21:57 |
| faenil | how comes a reboot didnt? isn't it equivalent? | 21:57 |
| tigeli | it should have fixed it | 21:58 |
| faenil | mmm :/ | 21:58 |
| stephg | maybe it did but there's an environmental factor too | 21:58 |
| tigeli | unless the hw stayed in some weird state over reboot | 21:58 |
| faenil | but anyway, it shouldn't keep connecting, even if it's disconnected, should it? | 21:58 |
| faenil | (or maybe it's a really rare case) | 21:59 |
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| faenil | tbr: kimmoli ADSL just disconnected :'( minus 1.9dB | 22:10 |
| faenil | I'm screwed :( | 22:10 |
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