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| locusf | faenil: tagged 5.2.0 | 14:27 |
| faenil | locusf: seen it, thanks | 14:28 |
| locusf | np :) | 14:28 |
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| filippz | locusf: I'm still struggling with making bootable nemomobile image | 15:07 |
| locusf | filippz: yeah me too, can't get past switch_root on hadk :) | 15:08 |
| filippz | I can read journal from /var/log/journal and see what is happening | 15:08 |
| locusf | I haven't even dared to touch the n0 | 15:08 |
| locusf | *n9 | 15:08 |
| locusf | so systemd does start? | 15:08 |
| filippz | Basically I'm looking at dsme - it requires usb-moded but busybox-symlinks-dhcp required by usb-moded is missing :( | 15:09 |
| filippz | locusf: systemd does start - It's probably not (only) kernel | 15:09 |
| locusf | filippz: hmm | 15:10 |
| filippz | how did this build - https://build.merproject.org/package/binary/mer-core:armv7hl:devel/usb-moded?arch=armv8el&filename=usb-moded-0.80.5-1.1.1.armv7hl.rpm&repository=Core_armv7hl | 15:10 |
| filippz | busybox-symlinks-dhcp "provided by" is empty | 15:10 |
| locusf | yeah its not a buildrequire | 15:10 |
| bencoh | fiddling with systemd and pre-switchroot stuff ... ouch | 15:11 |
| bencoh | that sounds painful | 15:11 |
| faenil | filippz: as you can see, usbmoded actually didn't rebuild (read last lines of the log) | 15:11 |
| filippz | skipped? | 15:12 |
| faenil | not sure what that "skipped" means, if it actually tried to build it, it produced the same log, and it skipped | 15:12 |
| faenil | or if the smart system thought it didn't actually need rebuilding | 15:12 |
| faenil | maybe lbt can shed some light | 15:13 |
| filippz | faenil: who can kick it? But also can't be installed without busybox-symlinks-dhcp | 15:13 |
| locusf | yeah we should wait until the Mer boys are awake and at work | 15:13 |
| faenil | I can trigger rebuild, but not sure that would actually change something | 15:13 |
| faenil | it would probably just skip it again | 15:13 |
| Morpog_PC__ | I think my tweet yesterday about that new sfos image running on my N9 is my most favorited and retweeted tweet ever | 15:14 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC__: congrats :) | 15:15 |
| Morpog_PC__ | Now lets repeat that with nemo and glacier UI :D | 15:15 |
| filippz | faenli: yes, and with missing busybox-symlinks-dhcp there is no point actually (I could rpm -f it in ks - but's that's just being stupid) | 15:15 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC__: haha | 15:15 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC__: indeed | 15:16 |
| faenil | filippz: you could do that in the meanwhile to look for other issues | 15:16 |
| faenil | would it install, in ks build phase, if it doesn't have that require?? | 15:17 |
| filippz | faenil: no - postbuild script would :) | 15:17 |
| faenil | filippz: ah well heheh | 15:17 |
| filippz | faenil: maybe I'll try it - in the meanwhile, does anybody know how to force journal from systemd to be alive till the "bitter" end - It gets shut off before I actually see the reason why? | 15:18 |
| locusf | it won't install via .ks | 15:18 |
| locusf | just tried yesterday with hadk .ks | 15:18 |
| faenil | filippz: mmm don't know | 15:19 |
| filippz | well - there's no harm in trying I guess | 15:20 |
| faenil | filippz: btw, if dsme requires usb-moded, which requires dhcp, why does dsme install? | 15:20 |
| flash1 | what is nemo mobile | 15:20 |
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| faenil | flash1: a linux distribution for mobile devices built on top of Mer core | 15:21 |
| filippz | faenil: it's systemd service file waits for usb-moded.service to start | 15:21 |
| faenil | filippz: so? | 15:22 |
| faenil | dsme gets installed using the ks, right? | 15:22 |
| flash1 | for what mobile os it is used | 15:22 |
| faenil | flash1: it *is* a mobile os | 15:22 |
| filippz | fanil: https://build.merproject.org/package/view_file/mer-core:armv7hl:devel/dsme/_service:tar_git:dsme.service?expand=1 if I'm reading it right | 15:23 |
| locusf | flash1: it used partially for SailfishOS :) | 15:23 |
| faenil | it shares most of the non-UI stuff with Jolla's SailfishOS | 15:23 |
| filippz | I have to go... bbl | 15:23 |
| faenil | filippz: you didn't reply xD | 15:24 |
| locusf | I can't stay long today, gotta wake up at 4 am | 15:24 |
| flash1 | what non UI stuff Does nemo do | 15:24 |
| faenil | I don't how dsme can get installed, if it Requires usb-moded, and usb-moded Requires symlinks-dhcp...the installation should fail | 15:24 |
| faenil | locusf: cool stuff :) | 15:25 |
| faenil | I don't understand* how | 15:25 |
| filippz | faenil: I guess dsme should have dependency to usb-moded, but it doesn't | 15:25 |
| faenil | flash1: well, when you take a OS, and you get rid of its UI, the rest is non-UI :P | 15:25 |
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| faenil | libraries which handle emails, messages, calendars, usb connections, wifi, bluetooth, voicecalls...everything | 15:26 |
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| filippz | faneli: look at the service file for dsme - it's "after" usb-moded.service | 15:26 |
| filippz | I really have to go for now... | 15:26 |
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| faenil | filippz: ah ok! it doesn't at the moment!! | 15:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | flash1, nemomobile = mer core + glacier UI | 15:26 |
| faenil | then it's clear, of course! | 15:26 |
| Morpog_PC__ | sailfishos = mer + silicia UI | 15:26 |
| locusf | hmm yeah it is now mer core, since mer and nemo are merged | 15:26 |
| locusf | nemo mobile doesn't technically exist | 15:27 |
| locusf | right now I mean | 15:27 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well yeah | 15:27 |
| Morpog_PC__ | faenil buried it ;) | 15:27 |
| faenil | filippz: I thought you said dsme required usbmoded already....if it doesn't require it of course things will go bonky bonky (I've just created the term :P ) | 15:27 |
| faenil | spiiroin: pingie pingie! | 15:28 |
| flash1 | what is mer | 15:28 |
| spiiroin | faenil: pongie pongie | 15:28 |
| faenil | spiiroin: have you read the discussion with filippz? | 15:28 |
| Morpog_PC__ | flash1, http://merproject.org/ | 15:28 |
| spiiroin | ... catching up | 15:28 |
| faenil | spiiroin: don't bother, I'll sum up | 15:29 |
| flash1 | Morpog_PC__: thnq | 15:30 |
| faenil | spiiroin: basically, dsme has "After= usb-moded.service" but it has no kind of requirement on usb-moded in the spec file | 15:30 |
| faenil | is that intended? | 15:30 |
| spiiroin | faenil: ideally dsme should not depend on usb-moded | 15:31 |
| locusf | I wonder how he read the journal file | 15:31 |
| spiiroin | or rather should not "require" it | 15:31 |
| faenil | so we should just add usb-moded in one of the patterns? | 15:31 |
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| spiiroin | there was some reason for the systemd stuff. might have been act-dead & charger detection | 15:33 |
| flash1 | is there mer sdk for windows 64 bit | 15:33 |
| faenil | spiiroin: there was, you mean the After is not needed anymore? | 15:34 |
| spiiroin | faenil: I mean I do not remember exactly. phdeswer might. | 15:34 |
| faenil | flash1: the sdk is ideally for linux...you can setup a virtualbox VM on windows, but the wiki guide is very outdated | 15:34 |
| faenil | spiiroin: alright ;) thanks :) | 15:35 |
| spiiroin | could have been something like: boot to act dead via charger connect -> dsme did shutdown because it did not get charger-still-connected early enough | 15:35 |
| flash1 | faenil: ok thanks | 15:35 |
| faenil | yeah... | 15:35 |
| faenil | spiiroin: but wouldn't it make sense to depend on usb-moded? | 15:35 |
| spiiroin | faenil: so techincally it might be that dsme might as well depend on usb-moded | 15:35 |
| faenil | to Requires it | 15:35 |
| faenil | because otherwise it will never run | 15:36 |
| spiiroin | yes | 15:36 |
| faenil | spiiroin: ok, then I'll ask phdeswer when he's back and send a PR to add the Requires: usb-moded to dsme, does that sound good to you? | 15:37 |
| spiiroin | faenil: yes | 15:37 |
| faenil | spiiroin: great, thanks for replying on a Sunday :) | 15:37 |
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| locusf | removing dsme from systemd services doesn't fix the issue though | 15:38 |
| faenil | locusf: well, a system without dsme is really broken | 15:38 |
| locusf | yeah that too | 15:38 |
| faenil | locusf: just add mer-tools devel repo to the nemo ks, add usb-moded to the packages (until we mode dsme spec file), and build a new image :) | 15:40 |
| faenil | (if you want to try, that is ;) ) | 15:40 |
| locusf | faenil: hurr okay | 15:40 |
| locusf | I'm doing hadk stuff first, lets see if I have time afterwards | 15:41 |
| faenil | sure, no problem | 15:41 |
| locusf | the next generation is now my focal point, not dwelling in past hardware :) | 15:41 |
| faenil | haha | 15:43 |
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| flash1 | is mer sdk for VMbox | 15:47 |
| faenil | flash1: what do you mean? | 15:49 |
| faenil | you can install mer sdk either on Linux, *or* on other OS, via a virtual machine ;) | 15:49 |
| flash1 | is there mer sdk for virtualbox | 15:49 |
| faenil | yes, somewhere, but the wiki page has an invalid link...you have to ask lbt | 15:49 |
| faenil | flash1: it's probably easier to create a virtual machine with an Ubuntu install, and install mer sdk in there | 15:50 |
| faenil | i.e. install a virtual machine with ubuntu inside your windows | 15:50 |
| flash1 | faenil: ok | 15:50 |
| faenil | spiiroin: can you check which package is providing busybox-symlinks-dhcp in jolla repos? | 15:51 |
| faenil | I can't find it on Mer, and the search on Mer OBS is broken (error 500) | 15:51 |
| faenil | spiiroin: nvm, I've found what I needed ;) | 15:52 |
| faenil | Stskeeps: there's both mer-tools/busybox and mer-packages/buxybox, which should we keep? mer-tools is pointing to the former one, which doesn't provide busybox-symlinks-dhcp, and that causes usb-moded installation to fail.... | 15:56 |
| locusf | hmm it seems that /sbin/preinit is needed for a successfull hadk device bootup, which is in jolla-sessions-qt5, non-oss :( | 16:00 |
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| locusf | not a huge problem, we just skip the recovery console possibility at bootup | 16:10 |
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| ZogG | SfietKonstantin, o/ | 20:32 |
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| kimmoli | webhooks down? | 20:36 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi zbenjamin | 20:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | hi ZogG | 20:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | not here for long | 20:37 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | yep kimmoli, lbt is working on new webhooks :) | 20:37 |
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| ZogG | kimmoli, sup dude :) | 20:38 |
| kimmoli | toholed featuregg | 20:40 |
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