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| locusf | so anyway we go we don't have a browser engine for nemo now? | 07:36 |
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| Stskeeps | need to query about when we switch to the next LTS.. | 07:37 |
| Stskeeps | it might just be greasework | 07:37 |
| locusf | ok | 07:38 |
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| locusf | there are a lot of packages missing from the merged repo including eg. ssu data for nemo and qtquickcontrols | 08:26 |
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| locusf | oh heck we should have responded to Stskeeps's email about the packages maintained, to include both qtquickcontrols and qtquickcontrols-nemo into the supported list | 08:35 |
| locusf | thats what I get for not subscribing to mer-general | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit above what mer-nemo mw should be doing, though | 08:36 |
| Stskeeps | i did look at ti | 08:36 |
| locusf | ok | 08:37 |
| Morpog_PC__ | that mer maillist is a mess | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 08:38 |
| Morpog_PC__ | so much spam | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | the idea is to kill it and re-create it | 08:38 |
| Stskeeps | at this point | 08:38 |
| Morpog_PC__ | good idea | 08:38 |
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| locusf | fingers crossed for the first nemo+mer merged image boot | 08:53 |
| locusf | theres no usb-moded so no ssh available | 08:54 |
| locusf | nothing happens though, not even sure it booted or not | 08:54 |
| locusf | systemd is 208, does that need a newer kernel than 2.6.32 which n9 has? | 08:56 |
| Stskeeps | wasn't there a mail by aard or the likes about that? | 08:56 |
| tbr | IIRC it needs the newer kernel that was floating around? | 08:56 |
| locusf | yeah from filippz | 08:56 |
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| locusf | ok trying with filippz's kernel now | 09:46 |
| locusf | sfos didn't seem too glorius compared to the possibilities the merged repo offers now :) | 09:47 |
| vakkov | is the obs broken | 09:47 |
| vakkov | i cant search in it | 09:47 |
| vakkov | gives error 50 | 09:47 |
| vakkov | 500 * | 09:47 |
| locusf | seems to be yes | 09:47 |
| Morpog_PC__ | i think lbt works on webhooks | 09:47 |
| Aard | Stskeeps: there was a tmo post of me | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | ah right | 09:52 |
| lbt | Stskeeps: can you get a sub list from smoku | 09:52 |
| Stskeeps | lbt: i think we should just start from scratch and ask people that are interested to re-subscribe | 09:53 |
| Stskeeps | i suspect there's spambots on there | 09:53 |
| lbt | mmm | 09:53 |
| lbt | not sure that really matters | 09:54 |
| lbt | any bot things that post will be banned | 09:55 |
| lbt | and we'll make it subscriber only | 09:55 |
| lbt | with moderator override | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | also, the address is on way too many spambot lists. :P | 09:55 |
| tbr | we need the subscriber list and we need a mailman VM on mer infra | 09:55 |
| Stskeeps | so that's why i think we should just start from scratch | 09:55 |
| lbt | doesn't matter though | 09:55 |
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| lbt | if its sub only then we just filter out any bad eggs | 09:56 |
| lbt | if we really can't get the list then that's different | 09:56 |
| tbr | do we have a mailman vm yet? | 09:56 |
| tbr | it will need port 25 | 09:57 |
| lbt | not sure - it's not really that hard to setup | 09:57 |
| tbr | surprisingly it looks like I might have some idle time today, it's up to you guys if you want help from me | 09:57 |
| lbt | no mailman vm yet | 09:57 |
| lbt | tbr: debian ? | 09:58 |
| tbr | lbt: preferably | 10:00 |
| tbr | lbt: stale is fine, doesn't need (automated) updates that often | 10:00 |
| lbt | I need to find a sane host | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | is there a debian stale? | 10:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:01 |
| lbt | "debian" | 10:01 |
| tbr | implied | 10:01 |
| tbr | broken, rusting, stale, rotten or so, IIRC. SID, testing, stable, old-stable. | 10:02 |
| locusf | now I got a booted lipstick-colorful-home | 10:04 |
| * Morpog_PC__ is reading tutorials | 10:05 | |
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| locusf | tbr: could you create me some more folders for n9 sfos and mer image releases? | 10:11 |
| locusf | or rather symlink :p | 10:12 |
| tbr | roger | 10:12 |
| locusf | to devaamo I meant | 10:12 |
| locusf | oh yeah sfos image contains Jolla software which I'm not sure I'm supposed to distribute | 10:13 |
| tbr | what bits specifically? | 10:15 |
| tbr | btw: directory and symlinks created | 10:16 |
| locusf | it contains some Jolla applications like the clock and stuff | 10:16 |
| tbr | in the web side there is also n950→n9, just for the people who don't believe that the same image will run | 10:16 |
| locusf | ?? | 10:17 |
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| locusf | the mer image works but touchscreen doesn't, reason yet unknown | 10:18 |
| tbr | locusf: http://images.devaamo.fi/sfa/ note that n9 and n950 are the same directory | 10:21 |
| locusf | tbr: ah ok | 10:21 |
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| locusf | hmm the hadk images also contain Jolla software, should the n9 still be treated differently? | 10:22 |
| Morpog_PC__ | I don't think so | 10:23 |
| locusf | I don't remember wether they had the same apps though | 10:23 |
| Morpog_PC__ | maybe stuff like that xt9 or aliendalvik | 10:23 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: what do you think? | 10:23 |
| Morpog_PC__ | or some audio codecs | 10:23 |
| Morpog_PC__ | and video | 10:23 |
| locusf | yeah but those are disabled in .ks | 10:23 |
| locusf | at least xt9 libs and programs | 10:23 |
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| Stskeeps | xt9 not good, at least | 10:37 |
| locusf | yeah those are not included | 10:38 |
| locusf | also some progress on nemo+mer image, now touch works as expected and can launch apps, just needs the glacier home in which the shader reverses the orientation of launched apps | 10:38 |
| tbr | \o/ | 10:39 |
| locusf | but | 10:39 |
| locusf | always a but here | 10:39 |
| locusf | qtquickcontrols won't resolve because of missing v8 javascript qt library in newest mer+nemo core | 10:39 |
| Morpog_PC__ | i thought we never used v8? | 10:40 |
| locusf | so we don't have glacier controls either or glacier home for that regard | 10:40 |
| Stskeeps | so .. what kind of mix are you using? | 10:40 |
| locusf | well vanilla qtquickcontrols uses it | 10:40 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: http://pastie.org/9639567 <- this is my .ks | 10:41 |
| locusf | also no more lipstick crashes for launched apps in qtwayland 5.2 \o/ | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i thought it was a unholy mix of sailfish latest and the updated repos | 10:41 |
| Stskeeps | good | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:42 |
| locusf | Stskeeps: the .ks for sfos is unmodified from filippz's last nights | 10:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 10:42 |
| Morpog_PC__ | a fresh flashed harmattan PR 1.3 is quite smooth | 10:43 |
| locusf | hmm we probably need to upgrade qtquickcontrols to more saner version | 10:45 |
| locusf | but this might break qqcn | 10:45 |
| locusf | need to discuss with faenil | 10:45 |
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| locusf | and SfietKonstantin | 10:45 |
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| locusf | lol | 10:56 |
| locusf | qtquickcontrols had a v8-private Qt dependency but it didn't need it anywhere | 10:56 |
| locusf | compiled just fine without | 10:57 |
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| locusf | sledges: if you'd please :) https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/qtquickcontrols/pull/1 | 11:07 |
| sledges | oooh! | 11:08 |
| sledges | :) | 11:08 |
| sledges | good old times with pleasure :) | 11:08 |
| locusf | thanks a ton :) | 11:08 |
| sledges | ummmm :( | 11:08 |
| sledges | move to nemomobile-ux instead? | 11:08 |
| locusf | oh yeah sure | 11:09 |
| sledges | locusf: I don't havae commiter rights in packages | 11:11 |
| locusf | sledges: yes, modified webhooks to reflect this | 11:11 |
| locusf | hmm seems I broke something or webhooks are down | 11:16 |
| sledges | they are down | 11:16 |
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| locusf | hrhm | 11:19 |
| sledges | locusf: cherry-pick this instead pls: https://github.com/qtproject/qtquickcontrols/commit/50d3556d5ebe33016bee809b5ae831bb47dee3f1 | 11:20 |
| sledges | and adopt the same upstream tracking as we do for libhybris | 11:20 |
| sledges | in mer-hybris | 11:20 |
| locusf | how to do that? | 11:20 |
| locusf | oh yeah, say upstream on the upstream branch | 11:21 |
| sledges | yes | 11:21 |
| locusf | eg. mkdir upstream and then | 11:21 |
| vgrade | \o | 11:22 |
| vgrade | I had a ping to buils a ks from coderus , is this still needed? | 11:22 |
| vgrade | looks like a n9(50) ks with new kernel and fixes for rotation issues | 11:23 |
| locusf | vgrade: yeah I built it | 11:25 |
| vgrade | locusf: ok | 11:25 |
| sledges | locusf: mer-hybris/libhybris is using subtrees, nemo-p/qqc is using submodules :( | 11:28 |
| locusf | sledges: rah | 11:29 |
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| sledges | locusf: i'll try to convert | 11:48 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | extracting sailfish takes ages | 12:37 |
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| locusf | sledges: did you get anywhere or should I just update sha in _service? | 15:30 |
| locusf | grr updating the sha doesn't upload the latest revision of the submodule | 15:36 |
| locusf | lbt: ping | 15:42 |
| locusf | lbt: how to activate the submodule init in .spec file or do the webhooks do it automagically? | 15:42 |
| lbt | automatic I think - I don't use them :) | 15:43 |
| locusf | hmm its not triggered when _service has updated sha | 15:44 |
| locusf | so I guess I have to wait for the updated webhooks then | 15:45 |
| lbt | hooks are down | 15:45 |
| locusf | yeah I know | 15:49 |
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| faenil | hola o/ | 17:15 |
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| locusf | faenil: yo | 17:18 |
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| faenil | locusf: why the repo change? | 18:32 |
| locusf | faenil: we needed to remove v8 from QT includes | 18:32 |
| locusf | faenil: + we don't have access to nemomobile-packages | 18:32 |
| faenil | wasn't that done upstream already? | 18:32 |
| faenil | mm? | 18:32 |
| locusf | not in our upstream | 18:33 |
| locusf | ours was a detached head situation for qtquickcontrols | 18:33 |
| faenil | well, we have to update our upstream anyway | 18:33 |
| locusf | we do? | 18:33 |
| locusf | okay | 18:33 |
| faenil | of course, our upstream is using qqc 5.1 | 18:33 |
| faenil | we have to move to 5.2, or 5.3 if it builds | 18:33 |
| faenil | or 5.4 even! | 18:33 |
| locusf | lol lets not get ahead of ourselves :p | 18:34 |
| faenil | well, the higher the better | 18:34 |
| faenil | as long as it builds on top of 5.2, it should be OK | 18:34 |
| faenil | and we get new components, fixes, etc | 18:34 |
| locusf | yeah | 18:34 |
| faenil | so, do we still need a private repo? :) | 18:35 |
| locusf | apparently not | 18:35 |
| faenil | good :D | 18:35 |
| Morpog_PC__ | faenil, do you know how swap is added on sailfishos? | 18:38 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC__: what do you mean by "is added" ? | 18:38 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, on my jolla i got swap and on my n9 I don't :D | 18:38 |
| locusf | mkswap /dev/foo && swapon /dev/foo | 18:39 |
| faenil | n9 doesn't use swap? I seem to recall it used a compressed swap? | 18:39 |
| Morpog_PC__ | faenil, http://pastie.org/9640335 | 18:39 |
| Morpog_PC__ | on sailfishos 1.0.8.21 faenil | 18:40 |
| faenil | ahhh on sf, ok | 18:40 |
| locusf | theres nearly 800MB left why do you need swap? | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC__ | well, because I want to get roid of the alggs :D | 18:40 |
| locusf | sorry 700 | 18:40 |
| Morpog_PC__ | rid | 18:40 |
| locusf | you don't with swap | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC__ | laggs | 18:41 |
| locusf | swap is slower than ram | 18:41 |
| locusf | so no speedups from that | 18:41 |
| Morpog_PC__ | unless ram is full | 18:41 |
| locusf | thats besides the point :p | 18:41 |
| locusf | special case :p | 18:41 |
| locusf | lol | 18:41 |
| locusf | well lets see if newest qtquickcontrols builds on top of qt 5.2 from merged repo | 18:43 |
| * faenil is curious | 18:45 | |
| locusf | lets see the build | 18:49 |
| locusf | https://build.merproject.org/package/live_build_log/nemo:devel:ux/qtquickcontrols/mer-core_armv7hl_devel/armv8el | 18:49 |
| locusf | hmm no | 18:50 |
| locusf | needs 5.4 | 18:51 |
| locusf | lemme try to checkout 5.2 | 18:51 |
| faenil | crap :/ | 18:54 |
| faenil | qquickrendercontrol.. | 18:55 |
| locusf | yeah 5.4 specific | 18:55 |
| locusf | 5.2.0 built | 18:56 |
| faenil | let's look for the highest version we can build :) | 18:58 |
| faenil | what about 5.3? | 18:58 |
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| locusf | rah | 19:01 |
| locusf | 5.2 just built | 19:01 |
| locusf | can't we be happy about it :) | 19:01 |
| faenil | why should we ? :) | 19:02 |
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| locusf | yeah why not | 19:02 |
| locusf | lets go further then | 19:02 |
| locusf | v5.3.0 stops to qquickrendercontrol | 19:04 |
| faenil | mmm no even 5.3 uses qquickrendercontrol | 19:04 |
| faenil | yeah | 19:04 |
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| faenil | crap, that's not fair | 19:06 |
| faenil | :( | 19:06 |
| faenil | it will take a year before jolla moves to 5.3 :p | 19:07 |
| locusf | yeah | 19:07 |
| locusf | at least now the image with latest nemo+mer ships glacier homescreen \o/ | 19:08 |
| faenil | great :) | 19:08 |
| faenil | locusf: so, do we have a new working nemo? | 19:09 |
| locusf | faenil: we had one today afternoon | 19:11 |
| locusf | faenil: not anymore | 19:11 |
| locusf | faenil: reasons unknown, will try to reflash my n9 now | 19:11 |
| faenil | lol? :D | 19:11 |
| locusf | it did boot earlier today but we tried to debug it with filippz in #sailfishos | 19:11 |
| locusf | newest sailfishos boots though, same kernel, same cmdline and config | 19:11 |
| locusf | now it booted | 19:17 |
| locusf | not | 19:17 |
| locusf | damn | 19:17 |
| locusf | I was sure it booted but it just ran out of battery | 19:17 |
| bencoh | "we had *one*" :] | 19:18 |
| faenil | :D | 19:18 |
| locusf | 13:38 was the last seen good boot | 19:22 |
| locusf | (EET) | 19:22 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | I got the small hope Jolla skips 5.3 and goes straight to 5.4 | 19:28 |
| faenil | who knows, hopefully | 19:29 |
| faenil | but sometimes you just have to be careful... | 19:30 |
| faenil | https://bugreports.qt-project.org/browse/QTBUG-41421 | 19:30 |
| faenil | thank God that was spotted before release of 5.4, but what if it weren't | 19:31 |
| locusf | woops | 19:35 |
| locusf | thats a nasty one | 19:35 |
| faenil | yeah, it's not that common of a use case | 19:37 |
| faenil | but still...3Gb memory leak? whew | 19:37 |
| locusf | hrmhmhmhmrrmhrmhmrmhmrmhmrmhrmhmrhmhm | 19:39 |
| locusf | I had a .readahead file in my Alt_OS partition after rm -rf * | 19:40 |
| locusf | wtf | 19:40 |
| locusf | it referred to sailfishos files | 19:41 |
| locusf | didn't fix the reboots though | 19:43 |
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| M4rtinK | still good enough for Microsoft I guess (referencing that exponential update algorithm on XP) :) | 19:50 |
| faenil | what is that? | 19:51 |
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| M4rtinK | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/12/exponential-algorithm-making-windows-xp-miserable-could-be-fixed/ | 19:55 |
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| faenil | M4rtinK: :D | 20:06 |
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| locusf | lol | 20:17 |
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| vakkov | Morpog_PC__: congrats for the n9. looks awesome | 20:33 |
| vakkov | are you the first that got it working | 20:33 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | vakkov, I just flashed the results of hard work by fillipz and locusf | 20:54 |
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| cxl000 | locusf, faenil I would suggest that once mer-nemo merge has stabilized and a new mer latest is cut updates to various packages such as qt5.4 could be pushed to next | 23:12 |
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