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| Oksana | Where can I find a camera app for N950, Nemo Mobile? I have flashed image from 2014-02. | 04:04 |
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| tbr | Oksana: there used to be one, not sure about camera status of N950 in that image | 05:50 |
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| Oksana | Thank you, I will try zypper in qmlcamera later? | 05:54 |
| Oksana | The problem is, here an 'open' WiFi network acts like a bait, stopping N950 from attaching to proper secure network. And I cannot get to Internet through 'open' network, because I do not have a browser which is required to 'log in'. | 05:57 |
| tbr | zypper search might find something, or it was broken | 05:57 |
| tbr | you could route over USB networking instead | 05:58 |
| Oksana | USB networking requires root access to Linux desktop. Here, I am using Windows 64bit desktop. There is a 'shared' Linux desktop, but I doubt I would have root access to its networking configuration. | 05:59 |
| tbr | are you able to turn on internet connection sharing on the windows machine? | 06:00 |
| Oksana | Let me try it... | 06:00 |
| Oksana | Choose homegroup and sharing options -> No Reaction. Must be blocked by some policy. It's an Enterprise Windows 7. | 06:01 |
| tbr | your last chance is to download packages manually and then copy them to the device while it's in MOSLO | 06:02 |
| Oksana | I tried that once; rpm acted as if the downloaded package was corrupted. | 06:07 |
| Oksana | I will go to not-here, the place where I have both full access to a Linux computer and normal WiFi network(s) (without open honey-bait), and will try to install qmlcamera. | 06:09 |
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| tbr | might be a good idea | 06:10 |
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| locusf | good luck Oksana :) | 06:22 |
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| faenil | gooooood morning everyone! o7 | 08:38 |
| locusf | morning faenil | 08:40 |
| faenil | yo | 08:40 |
| locusf | damn multivariate analysis | 08:40 |
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| kimmoli | anyone here who can setup me few webhooks? | 09:50 |
| kimmoli | sledges: ^ | 09:51 |
| tbr | lbt: also might know about webhooks | 09:54 |
| faenil | kimmoli: I can help in the afternoon | 09:56 |
| faenil | what do you need | 09:56 |
| kimmoli | faenil: these two http://pastebin.com/3zFUDHAA | 09:57 |
| faenil | last time I touched webhooks was last years | 09:57 |
| faenil | year* | 09:57 |
| faenil | so...let's see :D | 09:57 |
| faenil | kimmoli: last one is package name? | 09:58 |
| kimmoli | yes | 09:58 |
| kimmoli | i have set webhooks in bucket and github | 09:58 |
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| faenil | ok (sorry was afk) | 10:06 |
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| faenil | kimmoli: should be done, give it a spin | 10:09 |
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| kimmoli | ok | 10:09 |
| kimmoli | tnx | 10:09 |
| faenil | np :) | 10:09 |
| lbt | kimmoli: faenil I'm working on an open webhook system atm | 10:13 |
| lbt | fyi | 10:13 |
| faenil | cool | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | not yet nothing on mer-boss (?) | 10:13 |
| kimmoli | lgtm in https://webhook.merproject.org/webhook/ | 10:14 |
| faenil | :/ | 10:16 |
| kimmoli | both has cibot as maintainer role | 10:16 |
| faenil | a new entry with .git suffix just appeared | 10:17 |
| faenil | kimmoli: I renamed the old one adding .git | 10:18 |
| faenil | try again | 10:18 |
| faenil | (the github one only) | 10:18 |
| kimmoli | that works | 10:19 |
| faenil | ok, so it needs then final .git | 10:20 |
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| faenil | kimmoli: just renamend bitbucket repo as well | 10:21 |
| kimmoli | ok, testing... | 10:21 |
| kimmoli | höh | 10:22 |
| kimmoli | bucket leaks.. not worky | 10:24 |
| kimmoli | there is not much settings in bitbucket hooks | 10:24 |
| * tbr signs "there's a hole im maaah bukkit" | 10:24 | |
| kimmoli | protest-sign ? | 10:25 |
| tbr | meh, typo, sings | 10:25 |
| kimmoli | it is a POST hook with https://webhook.merproject.org/webhook/ | 10:26 |
| faenil | don't know what to change, it's same as github, maybe lbt knows why it doesn't work with bitbucket? | 10:29 |
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| lbt | bitbucket are a pita and change/break their api - the new webhooks from islam may help | 10:46 |
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| kimmoli | "The hook receives an POST whenever user pushes to the repository." .. is the online commit considered as push ??? | 10:59 |
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| kimmoli | ah, so no way to see hook results: "Is there a way to see a log of the responses for these posts? We are getting no notifications if the post fails. >> We don't have a public log, but if you open a support request to support@bitbucket.org we can help troubleshoot with you." | 11:06 |
| kimmoli | altough that is from 2012 but i didnt find such . | 11:06 |
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| stephg | faenil: ah you're online | 14:36 |
| stephg | your new glacier | 14:36 |
| faenil | faenil: sup! | 14:36 |
| faenil | new? what where | 14:37 |
| stephg | when that PR gets pulled, will that be pushed to OR? | 14:37 |
| stephg | you twatted(sic) about it last week | 14:37 |
| faenil | asks locusf, he's the homescreen dev ;) | 14:37 |
| stephg | ah | 14:37 |
| stephg | brainfart; nothing to see here | 14:37 |
| stephg | locusf ^^ ;) | 14:37 |
| faenil | I twatted about it? must have forgotten :D | 14:37 |
| stephg | one of you did | 14:38 |
| faenil | haha | 14:38 |
| stephg | I remember a tweet about waiting for a PR to be accepted | 14:38 |
| stephg | it was like Thursday last | 14:38 |
| locusf | I did tweet about it :) | 14:39 |
| locusf | stephg: wassup? | 14:41 |
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| stephg | hey | 14:46 |
| stephg | was just asking whether once your new glacier PR is merged it'll automagically appear in the build in OR | 14:46 |
| stephg | or if I need to get a build separately etc. | 14:47 |
| locusf | stephg: nope, not automatically | 14:47 |
| stephg | kk | 14:47 |
| locusf | faenil: is the pr otherwise ok except that qhash mess? | 14:48 |
| faenil | locusf: qhash? | 14:49 |
| * faenil has really bad memory, forgive him | 14:49 | |
| locusf | faenil: the pairing of window id and its title I mean | 14:50 |
| faenil | locusf: ah right, did you change that? | 14:51 |
| locusf | faenil: not yet, I don't know what to change it to :/ | 14:52 |
| locusf | it makes sense to pair the two as when launching an app, only the title of the window is known | 14:54 |
| faenil | locusf: no way to know the id of the window you tapped on? | 14:55 |
| locusf | faenil: not in the launcher item delegate | 14:55 |
| faenil | well, don't know, I don't know the code, and I have forgotten what I knew a year ago | 14:55 |
| faenil | so, go on if you think my idea is not doable with the current lipstick | 14:56 |
| faenil | or, implement it :D | 14:56 |
| faenil | whatever you choose, write comments everywhere about this :p | 14:56 |
| faenil | so that we don't end up forgetting the missing feature | 14:56 |
| locusf | faenil: roger that | 14:57 |
| locusf | faenil: https://github.com/nemomobile/lipstick/blob/master/src/components/launcheritem.h <- no window id as can be seen | 14:58 |
| locusf | but window id is needed in order to switch to the running app | 14:59 |
| faenil | yeah... | 14:59 |
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| faenil | got to leave, cya later | 15:00 |
| locusf | as for the layouts question, I'd like to make the working implementation now and then worry about the layouts to the entire homescreen as well | 15:00 |
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| locusf | faenil: back already :) ? | 15:10 |
| faenil | locusf: yup :D | 15:10 |
| faenil | changed plans | 15:10 |
| locusf | faenil: so I'd like to use layouts for the entirety of the UI, not just for that piece, but for a different PR | 15:16 |
| faenil | locusf: ok | 15:16 |
| locusf | I wonder if the statusbar could be done with layouts too, with a different panel for every resolution | 15:17 |
| locusf | faenil: so ok to merge? | 15:18 |
| faenil | yes, write a comment that we agreed it will be done in another pr, and pull the trigger | 15:18 |
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| Oksana | Thank you! Qmlcamera is currently depending on Qt4, so it installs (together with 15-ish other packages) but does not work (cannot find X display 0, or something similar). | 22:23 |
| stephg | Oksana: you get an X error? | 22:25 |
| Oksana | When trying to launch QML camera. Which is Qt4-ish. | 22:27 |
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| stephg | which device? | 22:27 |
| Oksana | I will recharge N950 (WiFi forgotten overnight), and then tell exact text of error. | 22:27 |
| stephg | aaaaaaah | 22:27 |
| stephg | so n950 | 22:27 |
| stephg | hm | 22:27 |
| stephg | it's going to be a very old nemo then? | 22:28 |
| Oksana | From February, 2014. | 22:28 |
| Oksana | Just recently reflashed. No "zypper ref" or "zypper dup". | 22:29 |
| Oksana | Because attempt to upgrade leads to lipstick not having a new enough mce (>=1.31) to work properly (read: no GUI), and adding devel repository with mce 1.35 leads to lipstick-Qt-5.2 being incompatible with other Qt-5.1-libraries (and additionally openssh with broken dependencies, so the only exit is to reflash back to 2014-02-image). | 22:33 |
| stephg | can't help you really Oksana, I don't know how much of the camera stuff was working back then and as you've just written half the deps will now be broken | 22:33 |
| Oksana | If only I knew what exactly is the broken dependency of openssh... And where to get Qt5.2-ish libraries... | 22:33 |
| stephg | fwiw I think qt4 didn't disappear until very recently (if it's actually gone yet, better to ask in #mer) | 22:34 |
| stephg | well worst case building an ssh that works shouldn't be hard | 22:34 |
| Oksana | No problem, I will wait till Qt-5.2-ish libraries appear in repositories. Do not forget to tell me when it happens :) | 22:35 |
| stephg | but you want camera specific things though? | 22:35 |
| Oksana | Camera would be nice, but if it does not work, then it does not. Maybe, I will find its code and fork it to Qt 5.2; it cannot become worse than it is now. | 22:36 |
| Oksana | https://github.com/nemomobile/qmlcamera | 22:37 |
| stephg | also, forgive the stupid question, but are qt 5.2 things already in nemo/mer? | 22:37 |
| stephg | I think I'm right in saying sailfish is still 5.1 | 22:37 |
| stephg | ^^ may just me being ignorant | 22:37 |
| Oksana | I do not know :) I just know that adding mer-core devel repository and upgrading led to lipstick being Qt 5.2-ish. | 22:38 |
| stephg | perhaps it is, I must admit I don't know what I'm talking about :/ | 22:40 |
| stephg | but from looking at that repo for qmlcamera that looks very old too :/ | 22:41 |
| Oksana | I do not know either :) See qt5-default-5.2.1 in http://repo.merproject.org/obs/mer-core:/armv7hl:/devel/Core_armv7hl/armv7hl/ ? | 22:41 |
| Oksana | Qml camera master branch was updated a year ago? And other branches 3 years ago. | 22:41 |
| stephg | yeah | 22:41 |
| stephg | so nemo, like sailfish is using wayland now, hence my confusion about X errors | 22:42 |
| stephg | but iirc it was wayland in Feb14 too | 22:42 |
| Oksana | And on Jun 13, 2013? That was when the last commit to qmlcamera was made. | 22:49 |
| stephg | so that's probably a bad example app | 22:50 |
| stephg | what are you trying to do anyways if you don't mind me asking | 22:50 |
| Oksana | A working (preferably nightly:) ) Nemo Mobile on N950. And "working" includes apps like camera, maps, and drawing-sketching. | 22:55 |
| stephg | eek | 22:56 |
| stephg | k | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | I'm not sure how the current image is | 22:56 |
| stephg | I'm fairly sure it's broken | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | but the one I used in August didn't even have a working wifi | 22:56 |
| M4rtinK | so I had to coble together sub internet sharing from my PC | 22:56 |
| stephg | tho we disagree on which bits :) | 22:57 |
| M4rtinK | to update it | 22:57 |
| Oksana | So far, nightly Nemo Mobile is not usable: mer:qt:devel is still 5.1.0, lipstick is linked against 5.2 | 22:57 |
| M4rtinK | which only made every application crash on startup :) | 22:57 |
| stephg | M4rtinK: we can agree on that ;) | 22:57 |
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| Oksana | The latest image is http://images.formeego.org/n950/nemo/nemo-n950-rnd-20140224.tar.bz2 | 22:59 |
| stephg | yeah | 22:59 |
| Oksana | Applications do not crash on start-up, WiFi is working (as long as you can pull-click the invisible button to switch WiFi search on) | 22:59 |
| Oksana | Many buttons are invisible. Like, backspace in dialler. But it pretty much works. | 23:00 |
| stephg | TBH I don't know what the current state is, and more-or-less everyone who would know are sadly asleep | 23:02 |
| stephg | where in the world are you Oksana? | 23:02 |
| stephg | the knowledgeable folks are largely in central Europe | 23:02 |
| Oksana | And I am at the opposite place of the planet :) | 23:02 |
| stephg | convenient! | 23:04 |
| stephg | being serious tho | 23:04 |
| M4rtinK | oh that would explain why my wifi did not work | 23:05 |
| M4rtinK | still, this needs to be improved | 23:05 |
| Oksana | Seriously, the most intensive attempt to upgrade the device to 'nightly'-latest Nemo Mobile was done by me overnight. :) Yes, switching WiFi on-off is tricky. | 23:05 |
| M4rtinK | it can put of potential contributors like this if the barrier for entry is this high :) | 23:06 |
| stephg | for the morning: locusf faenil Stskeeps ^^ about 900 lines of backlog | 23:06 |
| Oksana | What barrier? There is no barrier :) | 23:06 |
| stephg | not 900, 90 | 23:06 |
| stephg | ffs | 23:06 |
| M4rtinK | I ting they are sleeping - or as for Stskeeps still hacking the upcoming Sailfish update :) | 23:07 |
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| Oksana | Thank you! | 23:07 |
| stephg | I know, it's for the morning, to be fair to stskeeps I think he doesn't hang out here much but I think sledges is on holiday still... | 23:08 |
| stephg | anyway, is bed time. Good luck Oksana, g'night M4rtinK | 23:16 |
| Oksana | Good luck and good night! | 23:16 |
| M4rtinK | night :) | 23:16 |
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