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| faenil | morning o/ | 09:50 |
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| tbr | sup | 09:51 |
| faenil | tbr: quiet sunday | 09:54 |
| faenil | tbr: currently pondering replacing the telephone line for the apartment I live in...6th floor, it's going to take a quite long cable | 09:55 |
| faenil | (and I have 0 electricity knowledge) | 09:55 |
| tbr | check if it's an pipe in which the cable runs or if it was just laid into the wall | 09:56 |
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| faenil | tbr: yeah...I can't understand that yet | 09:56 |
| tbr | if it's an pipe, then you can use the old cable to pull through the new cable or you use a special pulling wire | 09:57 |
| faenil | how can I understand which is the path it takes? | 09:57 |
| faenil | (that's some terrible english grammar) | 09:58 |
| faenil | I found two little boxes in the apt | 09:59 |
| faenil | in one there's the phone cable, which runs through the wall and joins the electricity cables in the other small box | 09:59 |
| faenil | and I don't know where it goes from there | 09:59 |
| tbr | most likely it goes straight down and passes all apartments below you | 10:00 |
| faenil | and that means I'm screwed right? | 10:01 |
| tbr | not necessarily | 10:10 |
| tbr | it all depends on if you can trace the cabling and if it is replaceable | 10:10 |
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| faenil | tbr: ah, so there's the chance it's not replaceable? | 10:23 |
| tbr | if it was plastered into the wall, then you'd need to either cut a new grove or lay it on the wall | 10:23 |
| faenil | tbr: plastering into the wall sounds pretty hardcore, but yeah, who knows, this building is from the 60s | 10:25 |
| faenil | tbr: also,I think first test (once I'm confident this all makes sense) will probably be to pass the cable directly down through the staircase | 10:27 |
| faenil | hoping nobody complains :D | 10:27 |
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| faenil | (how sad, what have we come down to...) | 10:27 |
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| tbr | if you can get away without somebody complaining immediately, that's a good option | 10:29 |
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| faenil | yeah that should be doable, at least as a first test | 10:34 |
| faenil | it would be even better to first know if the problem is really inside the building! (and not in the ISP network9 | 10:35 |
| faenil | ) | 10:35 |
| tbr | 6 floors is about 18m, plus wherever you need to get in the basement. so 30m at least, maybe more | 10:35 |
| tbr | shielded 2 wire or 4 wire shouldn't cost more than 1-2€/m | 10:35 |
| faenil | yeah that's not an issue, it seems you can get 100mt for about 20€ shipped | 10:35 |
| faenil | I have to buy crimper and network tester as well | 10:36 |
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| faenil | (and, thinking about it, I shouldn't pay for this...the houseowner should...and he should also thank me if I fix this s***) | 10:36 |
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| tbr | faenil: it's likely an "you do it yourself or don't get it" situation though. try deducting your costs from the rent | 10:49 |
| faenil | tbr: yeah we'll see, I also don't have ground on the plugs in my bedroom, so I feel pinches when I have the laptop on my legs | 10:49 |
| tbr | yeah, same problem here | 10:50 |
| tbr | where important I have some ground manually wired in | 10:50 |
| tbr | so that ground doesn't float wildly | 10:50 |
| faenil | though plugs in the kitchen have ground, so they renewed those plugs but not the ones in bedrooms | 10:52 |
| tbr | rooms with running water have different regulations | 10:52 |
| tbr | same here, kitchen and bathrooms have grounded sockets | 10:53 |
| tbr | fun thing: the wiring has ground everywhere, they just used sockets without grounding pin... | 10:53 |
| faenil | I see.. | 10:53 |
| faenil | lol | 10:53 |
| faenil | no mine doesn't have ground at all, they must have addeed it later to comply | 10:54 |
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| faenil | with the regulations | 10:54 |
| faenil | http://www.ebay.it/itm/CAVO-DOPPINO-TRECCIA-TELEFONICO-ROSSO-BIANCO-MT-100-/141142585455?pt=IT_Batterie_alimentatori&hash=item20dcc0f06f | 11:03 |
| faenil | 1mm PVC shield | 11:03 |
| faenil | tbr: any opinion on that? | 11:05 |
| kimmoli | heh. that 50Hz ~110V tingles nicely, had desktop pc on floor, under table. had to have socks on when sitting there... | 11:06 |
| tbr | that's a naked pair | 11:06 |
| kimmoli | laptop has aluminium top, the surface feels a lot different when plugged in. | 11:07 |
| tbr | faenil: you want something with a metal foil shield and pvc insulation around it | 11:07 |
| faenil | ah... so s/stp :/ | 11:07 |
| faenil | yeah that's going to be more expensive | 11:07 |
| faenil | is there any technical name for that except sstp? | 11:08 |
| kimmoli | ftp ? with foil afaik | 11:09 |
| tbr | you don't need 4 pairs | 11:09 |
| tbr | unless you want to put the modem in the basement and run ethernet from there | 11:10 |
| faenil | I need 1pair, i.e 2wires, afaik | 11:10 |
| faenil | kimmoli: ok I'll try fpt | 11:10 |
| tbr | yes, in germany they have a complicated norm and naming system | 11:10 |
| faenil | ftp | 11:10 |
| kimmoli | sometimes cat5 is way cheaper. 100m for 30€ | 11:10 |
| tbr | "LiYCY 1 x 0.5 mm²" e.g. | 11:11 |
| tbr | yeah, unless you need it to be super thin or of certain colour | 11:11 |
| tbr | hmm that cable I pointed to has 5 wires | 11:12 |
| tbr | there are two wire cables | 11:12 |
| faenil | kimmoli: cat5 is the lan network one, right? | 11:12 |
| kimmoli | yes | 11:12 |
| faenil | which could be clamped to be use on phone | 11:12 |
| faenil | used* | 11:12 |
| faenil | I found a shielded one, 25m for 15€ | 11:13 |
| faenil | http://www.ebay.it/itm/InLine-Cavo-telefonico-in-matassa-per-impianti-schermato-4-fili-in-CCA-lega-/271594491594?pt=Cavi_Prolunghe_Convertitori&hash=item3f3c4b0eca | 11:13 |
| kimmoli | we have all telco cabling cat5 (or 6) . just use one pair. | 11:13 |
| kimmoli | 25m sounds short for 6 floors (was it?) | 11:16 |
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| tbr | correct, likely too short, would measure before buying | 11:17 |
| faenil | yeah... | 11:17 |
| tbr | kimmoli: yes, I'd only lay cat6 if I'd own the place or long term rent | 11:17 |
| tbr | example search results for 0,5m², 2 wires, shielded: http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/Search.html?search=steuerleitung&filterBesonderheiten=Geschirmt&filterQuerschnitt+%28je+Ader%29~~mm%C2%B2=0.5&filterAnzahl+Adern~~x=2 | 11:18 |
| kimmoli | just hope that every floor doesn't have its own junction box... | 11:19 |
| faenil | kimmoli: I couldn't find that, at least in the staircase | 11:20 |
| faenil | I found a box which should be for telealarm or something | 11:20 |
| faenil | which has coaxial (or I'm just too n00b) | 11:20 |
| faenil | and that's at every floor | 11:20 |
| tbr | coax is likely cable-tv | 11:21 |
| faenil | we don't have cable-tv in italy | 11:21 |
| tbr | depending on how visible this experimental cable run will be you can just go with cat5e in a grey that's not too obvious, likely cheapest | 11:22 |
| faenil | there is also this :D http://www.ebay.it/itm/Doppino-telefonico-militare-2x1-mm-antistrappo-bobina-metallica-m-450-/111457436136?pt=Militaria_Collezionismo&hash=item19f36181e8 | 11:22 |
| faenil | military-grade cable, polyester 600v shield | 11:22 |
| tbr | then it might be the roof top antenna distribution | 11:22 |
| faenil | 450meters at 24€, lol | 11:22 |
| kimmoli | too familiar that is | 11:22 |
| tbr | that's field phone cable | 11:22 |
| faenil | yep | 11:23 |
| faenil | not good? :D | 11:23 |
| * tbr used to have kilometres of that stuff | 11:23 | |
| faenil | btw | 11:23 |
| tbr | it's not shielded, but it has a steel core | 11:23 |
| kimmoli | and carrying 4 of those reels | 11:23 |
| * faenil has got to go...be back after lunch! | 11:23 | |
| tbr | you can run it over with a tank and it won't break | 11:23 |
| kimmoli | but not with skiido (or winha) | 11:23 |
| tbr | kimmoli: I once bought 4 or 5 reels and carried them to the car in their wooden box, it was freaking heavy | 11:24 |
| kimmoli | during army, i was driving snowmobile as a servicepatrol, fixing breaks in those cables. | 11:25 |
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| kimmoli | and couple of times got it tangled in the tracks | 11:26 |
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| tbr | as a specific use case this would probably be good: http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/600902/UNITRONIC-LiYY-Datenleitung-2-x-014-mm-Grau-Meterware-LappKabel | 12:04 |
| tbr | LiYY seems to be the associated german standard code for this type of wire | 12:04 |
| tbr | shielded 2 x 0.14 mm² with a ø of just 3.2 mm sounds nice | 12:05 |
| kimmoli | meanwhile my btrfs is balancing, i did read wiki at https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Development#Setting_up_a_webhook_to_github | 12:11 |
| kimmoli | https://twitter.com/LiKimmo/status/516146366620651520/photo/1 | 12:11 |
| kimmoli | and my repo is in bitbucket. there is also somekind webhook config, which i managed to add | 12:12 |
| kimmoli | is it possible to hook merobs and bitbucket ? has it been tested? | 12:14 |
| tbr | kimmoli: given that jolla uses bitbucket, I bit it has | 12:17 |
| tbr | bet | 12:17 |
| tbr | (not a secret, it's all over the _service files in the GPL dumps) | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | ESTSTOOLAZYTOREMOVE | 12:18 |
| kimmoli | hys | 12:20 |
| kimmoli | i managed to check that there is two hooks for me already | 12:21 |
| kimmoli | but do they work... is the easiest way to commit something and see mer-boss channeö? | 12:22 |
| tbr | prolly | 12:27 |
| kimmoli | seems to work | 12:27 |
| tbr | :) | 12:27 |
| kimmoli | that was existing github hook | 12:28 |
| kimmoli | now "Now contact on the admins sledges, Sage, or w00t at #nemomobile IRC channel and they will help you to setup the rest of the webhook process" | 12:29 |
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| kimmoli | hmm.. about the diptoh-daemon scripts. not they are in /home/nemo/diptoh -folder. | 12:50 |
| kimmoli | would like to move them somewhere more correct place | 12:51 |
| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/WAyW8fkF | 12:51 |
| kimmoli | rpmlin suggest etc/ or var/ (and seems that shebang is missing too) | 12:51 |
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| faenil | back o/ | 13:21 |
| faenil | tbr: I think I'll spend some time opening boxes here in there in the staircase :D | 13:22 |
| tbr | faenil: try tracing where your phone cabling goes | 13:23 |
| faenil | that's mixed with the electricity cables...I don't feel like risking my life without equip ^_^ | 13:24 |
| faenil | I can only find ftp/stp cat cables | 13:26 |
| faenil | there's no mention of ftp phone cables anywhere :/ | 13:26 |
| tbr | faenil: that 4 wire cable you had looked sensible. ask the seller if they have longer versions? | 13:27 |
| faenil | yeah, that's the only one I found, I'll keep looking and then ask ;) | 13:28 |
| locusf | I figured out why terminal and browser won't work on glacier homescreen (includes glacier gallery too), they don't have cover windows | 13:41 |
| faenil | locusf: since when does nemo need cover windows? :D | 13:43 |
| locusf | faenil: we don't somethings wrong with nemo native apps though | 13:45 |
| faenil | locusf: ok | 13:45 |
| locusf | only sailfish silica apps wiith covers work | 13:46 |
| locusf | non-working apps also include android apps | 13:46 |
| locusf | I guess there is a connection between these, just need figure out why non-app covermwindows fail to arrive to the compositor | 13:48 |
| faenil | yeah | 13:55 |
| locusf | lipstick doesn't handle app covers, that silicas job + ljh | 13:55 |
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| faenil | I wrote a nice big thread on an italian tech forum | 14:54 |
| faenil | let's see if anyone can provide nice info there | 14:54 |
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| locusf | yup its definately windows which don't have application covers defined that do not work | 16:02 |
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| locusf | hwcomposer reports a window being created but nothing else happens afterwards | 16:09 |
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| Oksana | Alright, I just flashed back to the 2014-02 image. Everything seems to be 'fine' (as in, dialler has no working backspace...). But, there are problems with incoming-outcoming calls. Probably hardware problems due to broken pins of SIM slot. There was some soldering to make them usable, but such fix has to break, sooner or later, right? | 22:37 |
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