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| sledges | mornin! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAZgLcK5LzI | 06:05 |
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| sledges | vgrade: situ: do getprop and setprop work for you? | 06:05 |
| sledges | yep, great ideas on UI PDA qwazix :) | 06:07 |
| sledges | Wikiwide (if you skim through logs): you can setup for voicecall-ui to start instead of lipstick (and respawn too ;) it won't crash then | 06:08 |
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| stephg | ningles | 06:16 |
| sledges | bangles x) | 06:18 |
| stephg | s/manic/sleepy/ :) | 06:19 |
| sledges | bongles! | 06:19 |
| sledges | you seem to be up early ;) | 06:20 |
| situ | sledges: I would check that again. | 06:21 |
| sledges | situ: if not, there was rsalvetti's patch to make it work to whom we are utterly grateful (it should be in mer-hybris) | 06:22 |
| situ | sledges: Ok. | 06:22 |
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| situ | sledges: Can you point me to the patch ? | 06:23 |
| sledges | im mostly sure you have that patch in, since you used mer-hybris (it's in two android_* repos) | 06:24 |
| sledges | getprop/setprop working from cmdline will show that | 06:24 |
| situ | I remember listprop outputting values. | 06:25 |
| sledges | that works yes | 06:26 |
| sledges | even w/o patch | 06:26 |
| sledges | setprop bla=bla; getprop | grep bla | 06:26 |
| sledges | ~ | 06:26 |
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| sledges | try iirc that oneliner to check if you got the patch in | 06:28 |
| situ | sh-3.2# setprop bla bla; getprop | grep bla | 06:30 |
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| situ | [bla]: [bla] | 06:30 |
| situ | so it seems to work. | 06:30 |
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| sledges | good then | 06:31 |
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| situ | sledges: I believe that test_sensors is crashing while loading libdiag.so | 06:33 |
| situ | But I couldn't find much information about this library. | 06:33 |
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| sledges | situ: we found /dev/diag exists in cm on mako, more reports to follow ;) | 06:38 |
| situ | ok, it does not exist on cm on hammerhead. | 06:39 |
| sledges | ah | 06:39 |
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| situ | BTW I don't know much about chum. What is it ? | 07:06 |
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| sledges | repo on Mer OBS | 07:27 |
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| sledges | built against SFOS | 07:28 |
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| situ | Is there an rpm availabe for https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish outside harbour ? | 09:05 |
| coderus | situ: https://github.com/communi/communi-sailfish/releases ? | 09:06 |
| situ | coderus: Thanks | 09:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | coderus, hi | 09:15 |
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| coderus | situ: but it seems to be outdated, so the best one is building project yourself :) | 09:25 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: hello? | 09:25 |
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| situ | coderus: I got some rpm related build errors, so thought of getting an existing build. | 09:34 |
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| coderus | situ: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/26659227/jolla/harbour-communi-0.5-1.armv7hl.rpm | 12:17 |
| coderus | built with no problems | 12:17 |
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| situ | coderus: At this point Mer OBS seems to be down otherwise I would have shown you build errors I got. | 12:18 |
| coderus | situ: i'm nou using obs | 12:18 |
| coderus | not* | 12:18 |
| situ | ok | 12:18 |
| coderus | build on my pc | 12:18 |
| coderus | situ: you probably not pulled git modules? | 12:19 |
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| situ | coderus: There were some error related to verifying rpm. | 12:21 |
| coderus | :) | 12:21 |
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| javispedro | ok, so I think I messed up the first bugreport I sent | 16:56 |
| javispedro | sent to nemo instead of mer | 16:56 |
| javispedro | (for a ofono packaging thing) | 16:56 |
| javispedro | :) | 16:56 |
| SK_work | javispedro: link ? | 16:57 |
| SK_work | ah, the bugtracker | 16:57 |
| javispedro | I assume the bugzillas are not connected? (So I have to close and reopen) | 16:57 |
| SK_work | what should we do to this bugtracker, Stskeeps and iekku and al ? | 16:57 |
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| SK_work | javispedro: yep, they should be the same, actually | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | for mer components? at least we need merge to happen first | 16:57 |
| Stskeeps | which is something depending on how much w00t snores, that i will work on during this week.. | 16:58 |
| javispedro | SK_work: but they are not the same yet? | 16:58 |
| SK_work | javispedro: IIRC, there are different categories | 16:59 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: cool :) | 16:59 |
| SK_work | thanks Stskeeps | 16:59 |
| SK_work | Stskeeps: what about launching (combining ?) sailfish meetings and mer meetings ? | 16:59 |
| Stskeeps | might make sense but a bit of crowbar seperation is needed; mer meetings should mean also sailfish's middleware, perhaps | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | (bad rephrasing) | 17:00 |
| SK_work | so we can discuss also about this kind of stuff: fate of bugzilla for instance ? | 17:00 |
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| SK_work | Stskeeps: I'm not against 2 meetings, but for sailors, it's also one more meetings for them etc. | 17:00 |
| javispedro | SK_work: doesn't seem like they share categories yet https://bugs.merproject.org/describecomponents.cgi vs https://bugs.nemomobile.org/describecomponents.cgi | 17:00 |
| SK_work | javispedro: ah sorry, it's true, nemomobile bz is different | 17:01 |
| javispedro | ok | 17:01 |
| fk_lx_ | SK_work: whatever for Jolla the Nemo mobile project is their property and manorial farm | 17:02 |
| fk_lx_ | roadmaps still not there | 17:02 |
| fk_lx_ | employees can add stuff, not informing why they are adding such stuff | 17:03 |
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| fk_lx_ | I recommend seeing video from Jolla launch | 17:04 |
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| fk_lx_ | there is nice statement "We swim and breath in open source" | 17:04 |
| fk_lx_ | we are doing "open source" instead of "source open" | 17:04 |
| fk_lx_ | it's fun what can be found in old interviews and videos | 17:05 |
| fk_lx_ | what's coming up next? bans and censorship | 17:06 |
| fk_lx_ | that's how Jolla handles criticism with bans from Stskeeps: http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-03-15.log.html#t2014-03-15T10:26:54 | 17:15 |
| fk_lx_ | this line rocks (Stskeeps justifing the ban): http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23sailfishos/%23sailfishos.2014-03-15.log.html#t2014-03-15T10:42:07 | 17:17 |
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| fk_lx_ | "it goes deeper than this conversation, sorry" | 17:17 |
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| fk_lx_ | so baning on #sailfishos and other channels like #nemomobile is done because, someone has deeper reasons | 17:18 |
| fk_lx_ | awesome, really community friendly approach | 17:18 |
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| faenil | fk_lx_, give it some time for the roadmap thing, it's not much that the meeting about that was held | 17:23 |
| faenil | at least up6/up7 features were posted | 17:24 |
| fk_lx_ | faenil: yes that's true | 17:24 |
| faenil | let's give them some time to organize stuff and post more | 17:24 |
| fk_lx_ | faenil: but Jolla clearly ignores stuff, that doesn't require much effort | 17:24 |
| faenil | (that said, I wish they were giving higher priority to docs and roadmaps) | 17:24 |
| fk_lx_ | faenil: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/python3-cairo/issues/1 | 17:26 |
| fk_lx_ | I don't know why Python3-cairo was added | 17:26 |
| fk_lx_ | there is no discussion | 17:26 |
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| faenil | my opinion on that is that you're overworrying about that kind of stuff | 17:26 |
| fk_lx_ | Jolla does what it wants, no discussion, no nothing | 17:26 |
| faenil | yes a package was added, so what? that's at the end of the things I'd like to see Jolla improving | 17:27 |
| fk_lx_ | well why wasn't that even shortly explained | 17:27 |
| fk_lx_ | was it so hard to write few sentences by maintainer | 17:27 |
| faenil | I don't know, but it's not something I'd spend my "critics" energies on :p | 17:27 |
| fk_lx_ | how people are supposed to get involved in Python support on Sailfish | 17:28 |
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| fk_lx_ | especially when some people are treated like second-category people | 17:28 |
| faenil | that has nothing to do with a package being added, come on | 17:28 |
| fk_lx_ | well I'm talking in general | 17:28 |
| fk_lx_ | I've wrote mail today | 17:29 |
| fk_lx_ | I'm discriminated. Full stop | 17:29 |
| faenil | (I've got to go in 10mins btw) | 17:29 |
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| fk_lx_ | faenil: sorry, honeymoon with Jolla has ended | 17:30 |
| fk_lx_ | talk is cheap | 17:30 |
| fk_lx_ | now I'm waiting for real actions | 17:31 |
| fk_lx_ | faenil: btw. how are you, how are studies going? | 17:34 |
| faenil | fk_lx_, fine, fine ;) | 17:35 |
| fk_lx_ | very brief :) | 17:35 |
| stephg | faenil: before you run (or indeed anyone else)is there a newish nemo build for n9/50 in the workse | 17:37 |
| stephg | works | 17:37 |
| faenil | fk_lx_, trying to avoid describing phases of my life in public places ;) | 17:37 |
| * javispedro timidly asks what's wrong with python currently on sailfish, btw? | 17:37 | |
| stephg | the ux is sufficiently messed up that updating is a pain for the wireless (I should really pull my finger out and script the wpa) | 17:37 |
| faenil | stephg, cool :) | 17:38 |
| fk_lx_ | javispedro: wrong is that you cannot get involved if you are called Filip Kłębczyk | 17:38 |
| faenil | updating is a pain for the wireless? XD | 17:38 |
| stephg | sorry, slightly a bit not entirely sober | 17:38 |
| fk_lx_ | javispedro: if I would be called John Smith I'll probably could, unless thp would guess I'm John Smith | 17:38 |
| faenil | stephg, ahah :) | 17:39 |
| stephg | the ux is messed up enough that getting wireless up on a clean flash is impossible | 17:39 |
| faenil | ah okay :) | 17:39 |
| stephg | (this is with the reference ux, not glacier) | 17:39 |
| fk_lx_ | javispedro: but I don't see reasons to change nickname and pretend I'm someone else | 17:39 |
| fk_lx_ | to not get discriminated | 17:39 |
| faenil | stephg, what happened? | 17:39 |
| stephg | anyway but no ux = no wireless == no updates == kinda stuck | 17:39 |
| faenil | wireless used to work, right? (it's been a few months I haven't booted nemo) | 17:40 |
| stephg | faenil, the wireless does work, its either the setting app that's b0rken but more likely something in the rendering | 17:41 |
| stephg | long story short you can't hit the 'connect' button once you've entered credentials | 17:41 |
| stephg | that and the vkb launches in landscape when you're in portrait and vice versa | 17:42 |
| iekku | ah, conversation done already. sorry was having looooong forrest walk with puppy | 17:42 |
| faenil | stephg, ouch | 17:43 |
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| faenil | iekku, which convo? | 17:43 |
| stephg | it's a ux thing but I've not got scripts to do the wpa stuff and NM on ubuntu is sufficiently idiotic that I've been too lazy to do the MASQ stuff with a default route for the device | 17:43 |
| faenil | :) | 17:44 |
| stephg | only asking, but it stopsme playing with shiny! new! glacier! on my knackered old n9 :) | 17:45 |
| faenil | ahha | 17:45 |
| faenil | have a nice evening people! o/ | 17:46 |
| stephg | run! | 17:46 |
| fk_lx_ | faenil: cya | 17:46 |
| stephg | catch you in the morning | 17:46 |
| faenil | :) | 17:46 |
| iekku | faenil, about filing bug to nemo instead mer | 17:47 |
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| vgrade | stephg: the ux issue came in just before FOSDEM in lipstick or jolla home , I've not got the exp in qml to progress I'm afraid. | 18:39 |
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| stephg | hey vgrade :) | 18:40 |
| vgrade | \o | 18:40 |
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| vgrade | someone did offer to trace it through but I've not had a response yet. If I do I'll drop another image with latest sailfish | 18:41 |
| stephg | I'm home now so lets have a poke | 18:41 |
| vgrade | I think if you install 1.0.2.5 then configure wlan, then zypper up you can get broken ux and working wlan | 18:42 |
| vgrade | ux is confused about width and height | 18:42 |
| stephg | hm, maybe related but maybe not | 18:43 |
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| stephg | this is on the latest vanilla nemo image | 18:43 |
| stephg | (for n9), not SF | 18:43 |
| stephg | but confused about width and height sounds about right | 18:44 |
| stephg | buttons half off-screen etc. | 18:44 |
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| sledges | stephg: launch settings app instead of lipstick ooi | 20:22 |
| stephg | sledges: you mean hack the systemd profile? was someone talking about that here earlier? | 20:23 |
| * stephg has deja vu | 20:23 | |
| sledges | stop lipstick, launch settings, via ssh | 20:25 |
| stephg | k one sec | 20:25 |
| * stephg ssh is broke, fixing... | 20:26 | |
| stephg | what's settings called? | 20:29 |
| sledges | noidea :D | 20:30 |
| stephg | haha | 20:30 |
| stephg | let me find the .desktop | 20:30 |
| sledges | qmlsettings | 20:30 |
| stephg | ugh | 20:30 |
| sledges | (is having deja vu too) | 20:30 |
| stephg | need the environment variables | 20:30 |
| sledges | -platform eglfs ? | 20:31 |
| stephg | lets try that | 20:31 |
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| stephg | am reading in /usr/lib/systemd/user but seem to remember theyre actually somewhere under /var | 20:32 |
| stephg | anyway | 20:32 |
| stephg | ooh | 20:32 |
| stephg | strong memory there sledges :) | 20:32 |
| stephg | yes | 20:32 |
| stephg | that looks alot happier :) | 20:32 |
| stephg | well sort of | 20:32 |
| sledges | o.O | 20:35 |
| stephg | you have no idea | 20:36 |
| stephg | so settings looks lots happier but is lanscape only and the toggle is missing to switch wireless on/off | 20:36 |
| stephg | going to reboot now as I think that fixed the first problem last time and will try again | 20:36 |
| sledges | hrmok | 20:37 |
| sledges | toggle while it is launched from lipstick, hen kill lipstick :)) | 20:37 |
| sledges | chickhen | 20:38 |
| * stephg *hates* ubuntu 14.04 and *stypid* *nm* and *soundcloud* stopping GAH | 20:38 | |
| sledges | yawch | 20:38 |
| stephg | sledges: to understand recursion, one must first understand recursion | 20:38 |
| sledges | :D | 20:39 |
| * stephg presses play | 20:39 | |
| stephg | oh wow, such broken | 20:41 |
| sledges | lel | 20:41 |
| stephg | oh this may be deeper | 20:42 |
| stephg | now poking around my dhcp to see if it actually asked for an address | 20:43 |
| stephg | I see correct network info in the ssh output for qmlsettings | 20:43 |
| stephg | (address, netmask and so on) | 20:43 |
| stephg | but it's not pingable | 20:43 |
| sledges | nm must die | 20:43 |
| sledges | you mean wlan? | 20:44 |
| stephg | yes | 20:44 |
| sledges | ifco fig | 20:44 |
| sledges | n | 20:44 |
| stephg | http://pastie.org/9190730 | 20:44 |
| stephg | that's all correct | 20:45 |
| sledges | huh? | 20:45 |
| sledges | so settings shows Connecged too? | 20:45 |
| stephg | through flickery mess, yess | 20:45 |
| stephg | you can't background it, it crashes (from the shell I mean) | 20:46 |
| stephg | it is connected | 20:46 |
| stephg | allegedly | 20:46 |
| sledges | now it should autoconnect afger reboot | 20:46 |
| stephg | these are settings entered before trying to debug | 20:46 |
| stephg | now why on earth doesn't it work | 20:46 |
| stephg | ugh | 20:47 |
| sledges | b0rken :) | 20:47 |
| stephg | starting a ping from the n9 and it now answers pings in the other direction | 20:47 |
| stephg | I'm an idiot, but it's also not quite working | 20:48 |
| sledges | hue hue ue | 20:48 |
| stephg | ha | 20:48 |
| stephg | is that lithuanian for *slow clap* ;) | 20:48 |
| * sledges is ona <2G connectio | 20:48 | |
| sledges | i reply to -min chat lines of yours :)) | 20:49 |
| sledges | -2min | 20:49 |
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| gogeta_ | night guys | 20:52 |
| stephg | gn gogeta_ | 20:52 |
| sledges | nte | 20:53 |
| sledges | 0G | 20:53 |
| gogeta_ | hi sledges | 20:53 |
| gogeta_ | hi stephg | 20:53 |
| stephg | is that infinite G sledges ? | 20:53 |
| gogeta_ | I'm going mad | 20:53 |
| stephg | gogeta_: why are you going mad? | 20:53 |
| stephg | sledges: I'm full of lies, the wireless does work it's just flaky as anything | 20:54 |
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| gogeta_ | is nemo-porters matter | 20:54 |
| sledges | "im going slightly mad" | 20:54 |
| gogeta_ | mad but happy | 20:54 |
| sledges | "it finally happened" | 20:55 |
| gogeta_ | what sledges ? | 20:55 |
| stephg | hehe | 20:55 |
| sledges | gogeta_: just singing :) | 20:55 |
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| sledges | Freddy Mercury, the Queen | 20:56 |
| gogeta_ | i know | 20:56 |
| gogeta_ | My mother loves Freddy | 20:56 |
| sledges | stephg: flaky that of n9? | 20:56 |
| stephg | yep | 20:57 |
| * stephg stabs ubuntu 14.04 nm in the face | 20:57 | |
| * stephg and again | 20:57 | |
| sledges | n e thing in logs? | 20:58 |
| stephg | just done a reboot after a zypper ref;dup | 20:58 |
| stephg | see if it's better | 20:58 |
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| stephg | well the networking seems better, but the settings app crashes lipstick it'd seem | 21:00 |
| stephg | anyway, it's no biggy now, the networking seems workable | 21:01 |
| stephg | in this channel I now patiently wait for instruction from my masters faenil and qwazix :) | 21:01 |
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| sledges | gnite! | 21:03 |
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| stephg | niiiight | 21:05 |
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| gogeta_ | sledges | 21:09 |
| gogeta_ | still compiling here | 21:09 |
| gogeta_ | from two days | 21:09 |
| gogeta_ | my device is a dependacies hell | 21:10 |
| sledges | rock on \m/ | 21:10 |
| gogeta_ | to solve | 21:10 |
| gogeta_ | i needed to rolback cyano manifest | 21:11 |
| gogeta_ | :-( | 21:11 |
| sledges | welcome aboard ;) | 21:11 |
| gogeta_ | but the way to go | 21:11 |
| gogeta_ | stripoff any | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | or adapt that crap ? | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | I'm newer to both | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | but i didn't find any elegant approrach | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | an example | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | wpa_supplicant | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | any vendor did some changes | 21:12 |
| gogeta_ | and huawei also link a binaryblob | 21:13 |
| gogeta_ | bleah | 21:13 |
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| gogeta_ | https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1511093_696177017086528_1207351923_n.jpg | 21:24 |
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