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stephg | happy thursday! | 06:35 |
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Deformat | aloha | 08:29 |
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Deformat | locusf, you around? | 09:17 |
Deformat | or maybe Sfiet_Konstantin? or heck, qwazix | 09:21 |
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Deformat | faenil! | 09:21 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Deformat: here | 09:21 |
faenil | morning! | 09:21 |
Deformat | right, wondering if this looks okay as a style for the calendar: | 09:21 |
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Deformat | (morning faenil!) | 09:22 |
Deformat | http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/secretalex125/calendar_zpsc8941c90.png | 09:22 |
faenil | o/ | 09:22 |
Deformat | wondering if I got the style right | 09:22 |
Deformat | maybe @faenil, you could give your say as well? :D | 09:23 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Deformat: sounds good IMO | 09:24 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | however better ask qwazix, our master :D | 09:24 |
Deformat | right | 09:24 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Deformat: don't think that the squares around calendar entries are right | 09:25 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | (IMO) | 09:25 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | love the dots around the date to indicate the number of events | 09:25 |
Deformat | hm | 09:25 |
Deformat | I could simply put some lines to create a border of sorts instead | 09:26 |
faenil | Deformat, having breakfast first ;) | 09:27 |
Deformat | oh, okay xD | 09:27 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Deformat: maybe you can try with nothing ? | 09:29 |
Deformat | With nothing it feels kinda bland | 09:29 |
Deformat | like something is missing | 09:29 |
Deformat | tho it could work as well | 09:29 |
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Deformat | Sfiet_Konstantin | 09:43 |
Deformat | http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/secretalex125/calendarB_zps5fb4412b.png | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | I prefer this imo | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | no heavy components in UI | 09:43 |
Deformat | I think I like it as well | 09:43 |
Deformat | xD | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | aah | 09:43 |
Deformat | thanks for the idea | 09:43 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | do like jolla, add a vertical bar | 09:43 |
Deformat | dunno, gimme a sec to check out | 09:44 |
Deformat | you mean | 09:46 |
Deformat | a pulley menu for other options? | 09:46 |
Deformat | or a vertical bar for number of events? | 09:46 |
faenil | so... :) | 09:46 |
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Deformat | (@Sfiet_Konstantin) | 09:46 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | Deformat: no, a vertical colored bar in front of agenda items, so you have a delimited in the items | 09:47 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | and the color can be used to tell the agenda | 09:47 |
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faenil | yeah | 09:47 |
faenil | agree | 09:47 |
Deformat | ah | 09:48 |
Deformat | yeah | 09:48 |
Deformat | doable | 09:48 |
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Deformat | http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk125/secretalex125/calendarC_zpsa410aaad.png | 09:50 |
Deformat | like this @faenil Sfiet_Konstantin? | 09:51 |
faenil | better :) | 09:51 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | perfect :) | 09:51 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | looks pretty pretty | 09:51 |
Deformat | Yeah, well, it could be always better. I'm going to work on the other menus as well, hope qwazix likes what's here right now | 09:52 |
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faenil | Deformat, also don't forget the specs, at the end of the day ;) | 09:53 |
Deformat | ^that as well | 09:54 |
Deformat | I made all text in 12-24-36 pixels | 09:54 |
Deformat | -64 | 09:54 |
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Deformat | argh, and gotta fix the blue color as well >.> | 09:55 |
Deformat | (to match Morpog's) | 09:55 |
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faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, locusf please don't kill me when I push the header...it's a bit long, and it's 1 commit...please, don't :D | 10:05 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: :( | 10:08 |
faenil | there were a lot of circular dependencies in the changes I did, I couldn't find a decent way to split the big part of it | 10:08 |
faenil | so I'd rather keep it in one big block, than split it in non-working pieces | 10:09 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: alright, let's review | 10:12 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, it's not pushed yet | 10:12 |
faenil | doing final touches | 10:12 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: np, take your time | 10:15 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | (because I would prefer review it as late as possible, since it's huge :P | 10:15 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | ) | 10:15 |
faenil | aaha | 10:16 |
faenil | it's been around forever, I'm looking forward to closing this chapter xD | 10:16 |
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qwazix | Deformat, nice job! | 10:30 |
qwazix | I prefer the one without borders too. I would go as far as to say to lose the border between the two areas too | 10:30 |
qwazix | the background color change is enough | 10:31 |
faenil | yeah, that could be even better | 10:34 |
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faenil | qwazix, what was the default page background in the end? | 10:38 |
faenil | because, if it's black, I can't see the header dimmer, which I wasted 3 days on, to make it work decently with UI rotations, lol | 10:38 |
qwazix | faenil, the default is black, but you didn't waste your time because the dimmer is for apps like the gallery and browser, that show fullscreen content | 10:39 |
faenil | fullscreen + header | 10:40 |
qwazix | yeah, not fullscreen, full-canvas | 10:40 |
faenil | ok | 10:40 |
qwazix | or how do you say that? | 10:41 |
faenil | don't know :) | 10:41 |
qwazix | brb | 10:42 |
faenil | qwazix, do you have 3 b/w icons handy? to put them in the header example | 10:49 |
faenil | I'm using 3 3-dots :D | 10:49 |
faenil | qwazix, that's the last thing missing :) | 10:59 |
faenil | let me know when you're back | 10:59 |
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qwazix | back | 11:05 |
qwazix | yeah, I can export those that we used on the spec | 11:05 |
qwazix | what size do you need them? i.e. are we still using 854x480 as reference or have we moved to jolla's resolution? | 11:05 |
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faenil | ahmmmm... qwazix I don't know :D | 11:10 |
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qwazix | that means we're still having N9 as reference | 11:10 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_cog.png | 11:10 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_cog.png | 11:10 |
qwazix | oops | 11:10 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_edit.png | 11:10 |
qwazix | http://play.qwazix.com/shared/tmp_refresh.png | 11:11 |
faenil | thanks | 11:11 |
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qwazix | I'm going to update all the specs replacing paddings and text sizes with constants. I'll use p.s p.m p.l as constants because of space restrictions. Explanation will be provided in seperate pdf. | 11:28 |
faenil | <3 | 11:29 |
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qwazix | also png's will be removed from the specs if nobody objects, one less thing to update and pdf's are lighter and higher quality anyway | 11:34 |
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faenil | https://github.com/nemomobile/qtquickcontrols-nemo/pull/27 | 12:10 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, locusf ^ | 12:10 |
faenil | it's here, finally xD | 12:10 |
faenil | sledges, ^ | 12:10 |
faenil | whoever wants to start reviewing.... :) | 12:10 |
faenil | lunch time for me! o/ | 12:10 |
sledges | \yay/ | 12:10 |
locusf | wow ok will take a look laters | 12:11 |
sledges | i always had no clue if a non-working (build breaking) commit yet 1 logical change is a valid commit | 12:11 |
sledges | lbt: ^ ? | 12:14 |
lbt | faenil: you can typically pre-commit assets | 12:15 |
lbt | so basically at least you should try to : add new, use new, remove old | 12:16 |
lbt | (just as a suggestion on "eek it's huge") | 12:16 |
lbt | qwazix: pdf? svg? | 12:17 |
qwazix | lbt spec documents | 12:17 |
qwazix | see here https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec | 12:18 |
qwazix | in every folder there's an svg "source" file (which doesn't render okay if you don't have the right fonts installed and a viewer with good svg support) and pdf/png renders of those svg documents | 12:19 |
lbt | so replace the png 'useful render' with a pdf and retain the svg as src? | 12:19 |
qwazix | I suggest to remove the png's as redundant, I originally made them for publishing to the blog | 12:19 |
qwazix | yep | 12:20 |
lbt | ty - just keeping myself informed | 12:20 |
qwazix | yw | 12:20 |
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qwazix | yay for FilteringMouseArea :) | 12:23 |
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locusf | huge kekkonen that is | 12:32 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | 51 files changed faenil Oo | 12:33 |
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locusf | yep | 12:41 |
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locusf | loving the comments though | 12:53 |
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faenil | back | 13:01 |
faenil | lbt, can you elaborate more? I didn't get what you meant | 13:02 |
faenil | (maybe I did, but not sure) | 13:02 |
lbt | faenil: np - just saying that if you can't do a functional breakdown of a commit then looking for things which you can add w/o changing existing code is good | 13:03 |
lbt | so add new classes, assets etc etc | 13:03 |
lbt | then change the code to use them | 13:03 |
lbt | then remove redundant stuff | 13:03 |
lbt | just to help reviewers with breaking down the task | 13:03 |
lbt | also not all commits need to be bisect-safe in all projects :) | 13:04 |
faenil | lbt, yeah ok | 13:06 |
faenil | lbt, I hate bisect-unsafe commits, personally xD | 13:06 |
faenil | but I understand that it has its drawbacks :/ | 13:06 |
lbt | how often do you bisect? | 13:06 |
faenil | lbt, not using bisect as in the git feature here | 13:07 |
lbt | for that I'd suggest that a patchset may be a useful concept | 13:08 |
lbt | but this is a suggestion for policy for the project | 13:08 |
lbt | depends what's more important | 13:08 |
faenil | yeah | 13:08 |
faenil | lbt, one thing is for sure, someone will hate me for this :D | 13:13 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, btw, the real changes are 2-3 files | 13:16 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: yep, I found out that you changed a lot of example files + autogenerated ones | 13:17 |
faenil | ApplicationWindow, Header, and HeaderToolsLayout are the most important ones | 13:18 |
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locusf | faenil: it didn't affect glacier-home in no way, I already planned on moving the toolbar to the bottom | 13:20 |
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faenil | locusf, good luck adjusting the logic | 13:21 |
locusf | faenil: no need, I use Page as parent and the toolbar is just a child item for it | 13:23 |
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faenil | yes but you can't just put Header at the bottom | 13:23 |
faenil | (or you're just using Toolbar?) | 13:23 |
locusf | Rectangle :p | 13:24 |
locusf | for now | 13:24 |
faenil | ah ok, no problem :D | 13:24 |
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locusf | all edge swipes now lock/unlock the UI \o/ | 13:24 |
faenil | :D | 13:24 |
faenil | \o/ | 13:24 |
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faenil | I'm not sure though the current header can be hidden, may need a few anchors changes | 13:27 |
faenil | btw, I'm moving to Windows, got to play a little bit, after banging my head on QML issues for the last few days 24/7 xD | 13:28 |
faenil | bbl | 13:28 |
locusf | traitor | 13:29 |
faenil | ahaha | 13:29 |
faenil | I'll be back, sooner or later :) | 13:29 |
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sledges | o/ thanks faenil :) | 13:30 |
faenil | sledges, np...I hope it builds at least, I haven't tested on OBS, I had a slightly modified spec to deploy it on jolla :) | 13:30 |
locusf | faenil: what did you need? | 13:31 |
locusf | and thanks faenil | 13:31 |
faenil | locusf, to deploy it? | 13:31 |
locusf | faenil: yes | 13:31 |
faenil | just added macros to the spec | 13:31 |
faenil | and changes qmake and makeinstall lines | 13:31 |
locusf | I don't need the macros | 13:31 |
faenil | yeah well, you can replace with the commands if you want the macros :D | 13:32 |
faenil | don't* want | 13:32 |
locusf | yeah | 13:32 |
faenil | bbl o/ | 13:32 |
faenil | Sfiet_Konstantin, if you start reviewing and need explanations, just DM me on twitter ;) | 13:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | faenil: I will do this :) | 13:33 |
faenil | :) | 13:33 |
faenil | or, actually...you know what, I'm joining with my Jolla :D | 13:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:33 |
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faenil_j | pew pew | 13:35 |
faenil_j | Sfiet_Konstantin: is it working | 13:36 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | :D | 13:36 |
locusf | all swipes except the left outside pagestack swipe are now working qwazix | 13:37 |
qwazix | \o/ | 13:38 |
qwazix | the left pagestack swipe should do the same thing for the time being | 13:38 |
locusf | http://qwazix.github.io/nemomobile.github.com/#navigation <- the swipes from here I mean | 13:39 |
qwazix | yep | 13:39 |
qwazix | the left swipe should fall back to minimizing the app if there arent pages to flip | 13:39 |
locusf | actually it does that in Sailfish apps | 13:40 |
locusf | ah no | 13:40 |
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qwazix | and since we havent got any glacier apps yet (i.e our apps still have a back button) you can set it to do what the other edges do for now, and revisit when we work on the actual pageStack | 13:41 |
locusf | we gotta propagate the event from the compositor then | 13:42 |
locusf | but its probably nothing big as we could prepare for it | 13:43 |
locusf | btw the lockscreen animation is the jump up/down now, should it be a opacity shift instead? | 13:44 |
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locusf | updated the PR #8 commit | 13:50 |
locusf | just need a review now :) | 13:50 |
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qwazix | locusf, it should be like harmattan (just like swiping an app away) | 14:00 |
locusf | ah so depending on the swipe its horizontal/vertical? | 14:00 |
qwazix | yep | 14:01 |
locusf | interesting | 14:01 |
qwazix | and on tap, or invalid swipe we need an informative nudge, maybe even more obvious than harmattan (more like the latest informative animations on sailfish, with the circle and all) | 14:02 |
qwazix | because I saw quite a lot of people that couldn't unlock their N9 at first, and even thinking that it's the speed of the swipe that did the difference | 14:03 |
locusf | oh | 14:11 |
locusf | hmm I should really study harmattan more | 14:11 |
qwazix | I really believe that they hit a sweet spot with swipe UI there, all later implementations overdid it a little bit | 14:15 |
locusf | https://github.com/nemomobile-ux/glacier-home/pull/9 | 14:16 |
locusf | qwazix: so Jolla or harmattan did hit the sweet spot? | 14:17 |
qwazix | IMO harmattan, sailfish tried a little bit too hard. Not as much as BB10 or Win8, but it is less intuitive than N9 | 14:18 |
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locusf | I should probably slow down on the PR's | 14:21 |
locusf | qwazix: oh | 14:21 |
locusf | three different prs now :p | 14:22 |
locusf | the latest one is the most important for the new toolbarless page | 14:23 |
qwazix | just pushed specs with updated and more consistent sizes, declared as variables and not as absolute sizes. Variable values can be found in "text constants" file in root directory of the repo. Don't rush to change anything, most changes are minor. If you happen to be working on something that has hardcoded values and can be replaced by a theme variable, by all means. | 14:34 |
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locusf | ok good | 14:40 |
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locusf | sledges: if you got time, could you take a look on the PR's? | 15:02 |
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qwazix | time and date picker specs https://github.com/qwazix/glacier-controls-spec/tree/master/timepicker | 15:38 |
qwazix | please comment if you find something obviously missing | 15:38 |
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locusf | seems like a lot of fun to be had on the qml side :) | 15:49 |
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qwazix | locusf, the circular timepicker is almost done (twice) see http://play.qwazix.com/grog/?p=231 | 15:54 |
qwazix | misses the 24h functionality and styling of course | 15:54 |
qwazix | (also misses animation between two points because qml 1.0 didn't have pathanimation, now it should be relatively easy to do) | 15:55 |
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locusf | okay | 15:58 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: the problem is more about the color circle | 16:01 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | to paint this will eb fun | 16:01 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | BTW, the design is awesome | 16:02 |
qwazix | thanks :) | 16:02 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | looks a lot WP actually, but I like the neon style | 16:02 |
locusf | we've got a cooler timepicker than the Jolla boys :) | 16:02 |
qwazix | why can't the circle just be a rectangle with radius? | 16:02 |
qwazix | and another one black inside it | 16:02 |
qwazix | because then we'll need a black wedge, which I suppose is equally difficult | 16:04 |
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locusf | sledges: thanks for lgtm:ing | 16:34 |
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locusf | evening faenil | 16:53 |
faenil | o/ | 16:53 |
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faenil | mm it's the 2nd time that irc on jolla disconnects :/ and I haven't moved the phone | 16:56 |
faenil | anyway, bbl | 16:56 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: don't think that it's easy: the fact is that the shape is not symmetrical | 17:06 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | so we either need painter, or canevas | 17:07 |
qwazix | :nod: yeah, you are right | 17:07 |
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qwazix | and some analytic geometry | 17:07 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | qwazix: not much imo | 17:15 |
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sledges | locusf: np, and thank you :) | 17:17 |
hschmitt_ | Hi | 17:21 |
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sledges | hello | 17:24 |
hschmitt_ | I have another calendar question, but this time it is middleware ;) | 17:31 |
hschmitt_ | which component syncs google calendar account? I thought it would be buteo? But I did not find any code for it | 17:31 |
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Sfiet_Konstantin | hschmitt_: I think that it's related to Jolla internals | 17:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | in Nemo there is nothing that sync google stuff | 17:33 |
Sfiet_Konstantin | we only have the daemon (buteo) | 17:34 |
hschmitt_ | https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugins-google | 17:34 |
hschmitt_ | but it is only for contacts | 17:34 |
hschmitt_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: makes sense for calendar because I did not find anything | 17:36 |
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hschmitt_ | only https://github.com/nemomobile/libsocialcache/blob/master/src/lib/googlecalendardatabase.h | 17:37 |
hschmitt_ | which keeps the link between mkcal db entry and uuid for sync with google | 17:38 |
faenil | back | 17:45 |
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faenil | hschmitt_, also, that repo hasn't been updated in 6months, so I doubt that's what jolla is using | 17:48 |
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faenil | I wonder why those parts are closed source :( | 17:51 |
Stskeeps | which parts | 17:51 |
faenil | sync providers | 17:51 |
faenil | like google cal and contacts | 17:51 |
faenil | it's not jolla's invention, so...why :/ | 17:53 |
faenil | it's not something special... | 17:53 |
hschmitt_ | and it has a bug, which I am trying to track | 17:53 |
hschmitt_ | and I can't | 17:54 |
hschmitt_ | but thanks | 17:55 |
faenil | :/ | 17:55 |
Stskeeps | are you sure they're closed source..? | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | give me some package names to provie t | 17:56 |
Stskeeps | prove it | 17:56 |
faenil | if you can prove it's OSS, you win :) | 17:57 |
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* faenil has been there already | 17:58 | |
* faenil hopes he's wrong though | 17:58 | |
Stskeeps | yeah, but you can't look where i can look | 17:58 |
Stskeeps | :P | 17:58 |
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faenil | sure, well, I didn't find it in the OSS world :p | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | buteo-mtp-qt5 | buteo-sync-plugin-caldav | buteo-sync-plugins-google | buteo-sync-plugins-google-simple | buteo-sync-plugins-qt5 | buteo-syncfw-qt5 | buteo-syncml-qt5 ? | 17:59 |
Stskeeps | https://github.com/nemomobile/buteo-sync-plugins-google | 17:59 |
faenil | Stskeeps, yes, that's probably the *old* repo before jolla switched to closed source or something? | 18:00 |
aard_ | Stskeeps: google sync is part of sociald, which is a buteo-plugin as well, based on buteo-sync-plugins-google | 18:00 |
faenil | it's missing calendar and it's been updated 6-7months ago last time | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | aard_: ah.. | 18:00 |
faenil | I really don't think that's what Jolla using | 18:00 |
faenil | aard_, thanks :) | 18:00 |
Stskeeps | and sociald isn't oss | 18:00 |
aard_ | we should check about that, though, as the intention for the whole google sync was to have it opensource | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | nod | 18:01 |
Stskeeps | ok, fair enough, that needs a looking at | 18:01 |
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* faenil has a deja-vu, I'm quite sure I already had this discussion a few months ago with Stskeeps :p | 18:02 | |
aard_ | legally it's fine, as we wrote the code, but it's not what was intended | 18:02 |
Stskeeps | nod | 18:02 |
faenil | Stskeeps, check logs, 22 december :p | 18:04 |
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M4rtinK | I'll just note that some of the calendar functionality has been reportedly torn out of KDE (according to a KDE developer) | 18:27 |
M4rtinK | so that part should be definitely open :) | 18:27 |
Stskeeps | kcalcore, yes | 18:29 |
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hschmitt_ | yes but my problem is, that the events are not written correctly to mkcal | 18:34 |
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vgrade | loooooooooong weekend \o/ | 20:05 |
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sledges | a theme song? ^_^ | 20:18 |
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