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| juiceme | krnlyng, morning | 05:42 |
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| juiceme | just tried your kernel on my permanently-serail-console-attached device, and guess what, results are same as yesterday when running my own build of the 3.5.3 kernel: it won't boot so far as to give a single line of output on the console! | 05:44 |
| juiceme | so, there is some difference between the devices, my "normal" N9/64G with no special thingies can boot the 3.5.3 kernels OK, but my "debug" N9/16G cannot. Go figure?? | 05:45 |
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| locusf | damn oc-curves | 16:00 |
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| locusf | and anova calculations | 16:05 |
| locusf | I wanna code some Glacier instead :p | 16:06 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | locusf: anova :/ | 16:12 |
| locusf | the sums arent hard though | 16:12 |
| locusf | I just hate the blocks and latin squares that follow | 16:13 |
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| faenil | locusf, are oc-curves related to roc-curves? | 16:51 |
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| locusf | faenil: afaik no | 16:55 |
| faenil | ok | 16:55 |
| faenil | they I don't know what you're talking about :D | 16:55 |
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| locusf | its about choosing the right sample size given a risk level | 17:04 |
| locusf | faenil: did you choose a thesis subject yet :) ? | 17:07 |
| faenil | locusf, oh I see, then yes I think they're correlated | 17:07 |
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| faenil | locusf, no, haven't chosen yet :/ can't get to decide between what profs offered...there's none which interests me a lot :/ | 17:08 |
| locusf | faenil: oh :/ | 17:09 |
| locusf | I was pretty lucky to just choose a subject, but now I've grown to hate it a bit :D | 17:12 |
| locusf | my thesis will be my summer work too :p | 17:16 |
| locusf | boring but gotta do whats gotta be done | 17:17 |
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| faenil | locusf, you mean they'll pay you for it? | 17:21 |
| faenil | or that you won't have time for anything else :) | 17:21 |
| locusf | faenil: yeah at least the state does | 17:21 |
| faenil | :O :O | 17:22 |
| locusf | faenil: my faculty might too but then I gotta finish it by 3 months | 17:22 |
| faenil | cool... | 17:22 |
| faenil | we get nothing... | 17:22 |
| faenil | 3 months total? | 17:22 |
| locusf | yeah | 17:22 |
| faenil | ah...I guess we have really different systems then :) | 17:22 |
| locusf | 600 eur each, but its hard to get this benefit | 17:22 |
| faenil | my thesis is 6 months if you're lucky enough...but for most people it easily reaches 8-12 | 17:23 |
| locusf | and I'm not really graduating yet, I still have my minors to do | 17:23 |
| faenil | I see | 17:23 |
| locusf | yeah its not unheard of that theres a thesis for 10 years here in finland | 17:23 |
| faenil | 10 years? XD | 17:23 |
| locusf | there are no strict deadlines you see | 17:23 |
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| faenil | ah well sure | 17:23 |
| locusf | just based on the individuals own time management | 17:24 |
| faenil | especially if you also get money | 17:24 |
| faenil | but if you don't get anything, then it's very different | 17:24 |
| locusf | yeah if you get the benefit then theres a deadline | 17:24 |
| faenil | 10 years thesis means your parents will have to pay for that | 17:24 |
| locusf | or go to a job | 17:24 |
| locusf | which usually happens | 17:24 |
| faenil | yeah | 17:25 |
| faenil | and that turns 10y thesis into 20y :d | 17:25 |
| locusf | yeah :D | 17:25 |
| locusf | or infinite thesis | 17:25 |
| faenil | :) | 17:25 |
| locusf | deadly thesis | 17:25 |
| faenil | locusf, but what's the avg duration of a master thesis in finland? | 17:26 |
| locusf | faenil: I have no clue | 17:26 |
| locusf | my dean might know | 17:26 |
| locusf | it depends on the university too | 17:26 |
| faenil | not even more or less? | 17:26 |
| locusf | yep | 17:26 |
| locusf | no clue whatsoever | 17:27 |
| faenil | :) | 17:27 |
| locusf | my instructors thesis took 3 years | 17:27 |
| locusf | one guy had 2 years | 17:27 |
| locusf | one guy did in 3 weeks | 17:27 |
| locusf | like Stskeeps did :) but he didn't do it in Finland | 17:28 |
| faenil | 3 weeks? that's a dream | 17:28 |
| faenil | get done with uni and start working | 17:28 |
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| locusf | 13 hours a day for three weeks surely gets something done lol | 17:28 |
| faenil | that would not even be enough for the last exam I did :D | 17:29 |
| faenil | (or maybe :) ) | 17:29 |
| locusf | oh :) | 17:30 |
| faenil | I mean, even just writing the thesis itself, that takes a lot of time | 17:30 |
| faenil | it's usually 80+ pages, it's not something you write in a week :/ | 17:30 |
| locusf | oh you have that limit | 17:30 |
| locusf | we have 40 pages and its good enough | 17:30 |
| faenil | no, no limit | 17:30 |
| faenil | but it's usually 80+, and 30+ for bachelor | 17:31 |
| faenil | yeah I think it's stupid | 17:31 |
| locusf | lol we have 20 for bachelor | 17:31 |
| faenil | because people start filling pages with BS | 17:31 |
| locusf | it is surely | 17:31 |
| locusf | I already am :D | 17:31 |
| faenil | because they have to reach that "cultural" limit | 17:31 |
| faenil | I meant 80+ is stupid :D | 17:32 |
| locusf | yeah I got that | 17:32 |
| faenil | ok :D | 17:32 |
| locusf | I agree with that | 17:32 |
| faenil | people start filling it with code as well | 17:32 |
| faenil | I mean...gah | 17:32 |
| locusf | yeah I was just thinking about that too, putting in some code :D | 17:33 |
| locusf | all Glacier QML sources, easy pages | 17:33 |
| faenil | oh right your thesis is on Nemo :O :O :O :O | 17:33 |
| locusf | yep | 17:33 |
| faenil | I don't get to choose the subject :/ | 17:33 |
| faenil | I could think about doing my thesis at your uni though :D | 17:34 |
| faenil | and do it on Nemo as well, ahah :) | 17:34 |
| locusf | lol :D | 17:34 |
| faenil | that would be doable, but getting the burocracy right for that stuff requires a lot of time | 17:34 |
| locusf | what kind of subjects did you get from your professors? | 17:34 |
| locusf | yeah I can imagine | 17:35 |
| faenil | not easy to explain in chat :/ | 17:35 |
| locusf | I remember one guy doing his thesis on Qt and had code about his own music player in the thesis itself | 17:35 |
| faenil | :รน9 | 17:35 |
| faenil | :) | 17:36 |
| faenil | only one prof knows Qt here :( | 17:36 |
| locusf | nobody in my faculty knows what I'm doing | 17:38 |
| locusf | my instructor hasn't even read my thesis on its current state yet | 17:38 |
| locusf | so I have no idea what I should write there | 17:39 |
| faenil | ehehe :) yeah | 17:40 |
| faenil | at my bachelor he read the thesis 2 days before my graduation day | 17:41 |
| faenil | so I could not even print the good version of it | 17:41 |
| faenil | (which is expensive though, so at least I saved money :D ) | 17:41 |
| faenil | as the good version requires 24h+ for stuff like glue, sewing, etc | 17:42 |
| locusf | oh the hifi :) | 17:43 |
| locusf | my bachelors was just printer printed | 17:43 |
| locusf | with a stapler in the corner | 17:43 |
| faenil | but I have to admit that wasn't the first time he read it, that was the time when he read the final revision | 17:43 |
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| faenil | oh :) | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | 6 weeks, fwiw | 17:48 |
| Stskeeps | nothing to be proud of, but it was a passing grade + a few | 17:48 |
| locusf | oh 6 weeks | 17:48 |
| locusf | I think 3 weeks is possible only in Finland | 17:49 |
| faenil | 6 weeks as well, I think | 17:49 |
| faenil | I meant, it wouldn't be possible here, at least | 17:50 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, what did you work on, out of curiosity? | 17:50 |
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| Stskeeps | faenil: http://cs.staff.au.dk/news-events/news/show-news/artikel/masters-thesis-examination-carsten-v-munk/ | 17:51 |
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| Stskeeps | Improving Rehabilitation using Computer Vision and Mobility Detection | 17:53 |
| faenil | Stskeeps, many of the proposed subjects in my case were quite closely related to yours :O | 17:53 |
| faenil | *are* | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | hrm | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | university of pisa.. | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | right? | 17:53 |
| faenil | yep | 17:53 |
| Stskeeps | i remember roughly about them having a bit of healthcare related stuff | 17:54 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:54 |
| faenil | :) | 17:54 |
| faenil | always about motion detection and motived rehabilitation | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | nod | 17:55 |
| faenil | for children, or for old people, to prevent mental and physical illness, or for rehabilitation | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | there's a lot of money in this kind of stuff as state never has any idea what it costs | 17:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:57 |
| faenil | ahaha | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | it's even worse than mobie | 17:57 |
| Stskeeps | +l | 17:57 |
| faenil | but that's not interesting as long as I don't get anything :p | 17:57 |
| faenil | were you paid as well? | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | i was working 5 years in a mix of mobile positioning, pervasive computing and pervasive healthcare | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | so, it was part of my work | 17:58 |
| faenil | I see | 17:59 |
| faenil | would you recommend a thesis about that stuff? | 17:59 |
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| Stskeeps | yes, but talk to real people having the problems | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | pair up with a etnographer if at all possible | 18:00 |
| faenil | mhm | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | i had the excuse that my wife has a hip issue; so i could use her as a real test subject | 18:00 |
| faenil | I see | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | you get to play with a lot of fancy technology to accomplish it. | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:01 |
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| faenil | that has a 6-8months estimate | 18:02 |
| faenil | I see... | 18:02 |
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| locusf | I wish my thesis had a good value to humanity :p | 18:13 |
| w00t | I wish I had a thesis (..no, wait, I don't) | 18:13 |
| w00t | :-D | 18:13 |
| locusf | lol | 18:15 |
| stephg | evenink | 18:17 |
| Stskeeps | thesis is good.. for warming up a room | 18:17 |
| * Stskeeps burnt his | 18:17 | |
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| w00t | Stskeeps: ..really..? :P | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | really | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | all ze notes | 18:41 |
| tbr | I wrote mine in what was essentially a week. not much to burn ;) | 18:41 |
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