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| stephg | dare I say it... | 05:56 |
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| stephg | oh alright then I will | 06:03 |
| stephg | it's FRIDAY! | 06:03 |
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| coderus | ORLY? | 06:15 |
| coderus | this week ended too fast for me | 06:15 |
| Stskeeps | +1 | 06:16 |
| locusf | morning and have a good friday :) | 06:18 |
| jussi | :D | 06:19 |
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| tbr | friday, friday, ... *chanting* | 06:23 |
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| stephg | morning locusf | 06:37 |
| stephg | and everyone | 06:38 |
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| juiceme | Hurrian, ping | 07:24 |
| Hurrian | juiceme, pong | 07:25 |
| juiceme | Hurrian, I still do have my serial console setups, altough I rarely use 'em nowdays | 07:25 |
| Hurrian | yep, it is a PITA to setup | 07:25 |
| juiceme | Would you like me to try some kernel with that? | 07:25 |
| Hurrian | not at the moment, I think the code for the aegis port to 3.5 should be worked on instead | 07:26 |
| juiceme | okay. | 07:26 |
| Hurrian | I think I took out important stuff in a mad rush to boot it :/ | 07:26 |
| juiceme | just give me a holler if you need anything like that | 07:26 |
| Hurrian | yep, will do :D | 07:27 |
| juiceme | it'll be nice to have the newest sailfish update on N9, yes | 07:27 |
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| juiceme | BTW, how's GlacierUI coming up nowdays? | 07:28 |
| Hurrian | I've spent the whole morning on setting up my N9 for development - btrfs snapshots sure are fun. | 07:28 |
| juiceme | yes, it's not like on ext4 :) | 07:28 |
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| Hurrian | as for Glacier, I haven't had the time to get back to the Nemo team on that, kernel work is just too addicting :P | 07:29 |
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| juiceme | for myself, I have not worked much on any devices lately, too busy with "real work" :( | 07:29 |
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| Hurrian | was in the same situation the past few months - uni studies were just really busy. | 07:30 |
| Hurrian | I'm on summer break now though, so I'm hoping I'll be able to get some stuff done. | 07:31 |
| juiceme | I have been porting a large test framework from Win -> Linux and last 3 weeks I had horrible stack corruption problems... now fortunately it seems I have managed to solve them and can continue with fearure development :) | 07:31 |
| Hurrian | ouch, a straight up deep dive into the code. | 07:32 |
| juiceme | ya :) | 07:33 |
| Hurrian | which reminds me, juiceme, when you've got some time, could you try booting filippz's 3.5.3 with Sailfish and grabbing serial output? it boots Nemo, but dies on SFOS, mysteriously | 07:33 |
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| juiceme | I can do that. would you like me to try that on the latest N9 sailfish image? | 07:34 |
| juiceme | and which is the kernel you have in mind? | 07:34 |
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| Hurrian | vgrade's 1.0.2.5? yep, that's what I'm testing against. Kernel tree is at https://github.com/filippz/kernel-adaptation-n950-n9, build with n9_mer_defconfig | 07:35 |
| juiceme | ok, thanks. | 07:36 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | goodmorning | 07:59 |
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| sledges | moorningood | 11:32 |
| stephg | ohai! | 11:34 |
| stephg | (but it's aftern00n) | 11:34 |
| sledges | as SfietKonstantin says, is when you switch the IRC on :) | 11:35 |
| SfietKonstantin | :) | 11:35 |
| SfietKonstantin | moarfternoon :) | 11:35 |
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| stephg | ha | 11:37 |
| faenil | hey! o/ | 11:37 |
| faenil | sledges, lol, just read your dm | 11:37 |
| locusf | hey faenil | 11:38 |
| sledges | faenil: o/ goood ;) | 11:40 |
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| faenil | I got so lazy after the exam | 11:47 |
| faenil | just out of curiosity, am I blocking a lot of stuff by not pushing header? | 11:47 |
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| locusf | faenil: well the homescreen would certainly benefit from it:) | 11:49 |
| locusf | but blocking, no | 11:50 |
| faenil | locusf, how? does it use the header? | 11:50 |
| locusf | faenil: it uses Page in which there now is a header with eg battery icon | 11:50 |
| faenil | okay, nah it won't change much, you'll just have to specify the headercontent, instead of the header itself :) | 11:51 |
| locusf | okay | 11:51 |
| locusf | what about the tools property? | 11:51 |
| sledges | faenil: what about us being able to develop apps? :)) | 11:52 |
| faenil | locusf, I don't even remember how I implemented it atm, but I remember it was a mess because of the way header works :D | 11:52 |
| faenil | sledges, eheh :D is there any mockup? | 11:53 |
| faenil | haven't seen any :p | 11:53 |
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| sledges | faenil: true ;P :DD but Deformat is working on media player mockup, and we'll surely want to play around during the time you start your thesis ;) | 11:56 |
| faenil | yeah...just kidding, it's a few hours work, I just have to settle down, and get things to work and push the initial version :D | 11:57 |
| sledges | our minds and support are with you faenil ;) | 11:57 |
| faenil | xD | 11:57 |
| faenil | I need someone to kick my butt :D | 11:58 |
| * sledges is looking for appropriate icon | 11:58 | |
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| sledges | o¬ | 11:58 |
| sledges | is the key, or ...a gun :)) | 11:58 |
| sledges | ah | 11:58 |
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| jussi | haha | 11:58 |
| sledges | trout! | 11:58 |
| sledges | always works :D | 11:58 |
| jussi | sledges: +++ | 11:59 |
| stephg | pubtiem, catch you all in a bit | 11:59 |
| faenil | :D | 11:59 |
| sledges | friday pubbage, mmm miss those working-from-office times ;) | 12:01 |
| sledges | but that's about it really :D | 12:01 |
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| locusf | I really miss the working from home thing | 12:28 |
| locusf | but I guess I might like office work more | 12:28 |
| locusf | I dunno yet as I have yet to try it | 12:28 |
| faenil | :D | 12:29 |
| faenil | I think a mix of the two is the best | 12:29 |
| faenil | I'd choose office more happily, if I also had the choice to stay home when I want to | 12:30 |
| faenil | it's not like one doesn't want to work | 12:30 |
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| faenil | it's about knowing that you have a choice and people trust you and know you'll still do your stuff :) | 12:30 |
| locusf | yeah | 12:31 |
| * w00t is happy to work from home | 12:34 | |
| w00t | but then i'm an antisocial git | 12:34 |
| sledges | that's why one can't trust anyone in an OSS community :D (j/k) | 12:34 |
| bencoh | :)) | 12:34 |
| * Aard is happy about not having to see his colleagues every day :p | 12:47 | |
| w00t | Aard: i suspect the feeling is mutual | 12:48 |
| w00t | :P | 12:48 |
| Aard | w00t: I'm trying to get screens with qareport status into the offices. once there I can take them over to display my face big brother style | 12:48 |
| sledges | or the saw | 12:49 |
| sledges | ie jigsaw | 12:49 |
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| faenil | https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2014-April/003829.html | 16:12 |
| Stskeeps | damn, i forgot in here too | 16:13 |
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| locusf | good idea | 16:23 |
| sledges | +1 | 16:29 |
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| locusf | easter week thursday, seems that its 17 ECT | 16:30 |
| locusf | tuesday and whatever finnish timezone is | 16:30 |
| locusf | EET | 16:30 |
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| locusf | SfietKonstantin: ping | 16:36 |
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| SfietKonstantin | locusf: pong | 17:14 |
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| locusf | SfietKonstantin: I got the sailfish sdk to compile, finally | 17:23 |
| locusf | in Qt Creator no less | 17:23 |
| SfietKonstantin | locusf: ah ? | 17:23 |
| SfietKonstantin | that's good | 17:23 |
| locusf | so I was just saying that it might get tricky | 17:23 |
| SfietKonstantin | ok | 17:23 |
| locusf | http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtcreator-extending/getting-and-building.html | 17:23 |
| SfietKonstantin | yep, I already built some QtC | 17:24 |
| locusf | https://together.jolla.com/question/37568/compiling-sailfish-sdk-from-sources/ | 17:24 |
| SfietKonstantin | problem blocking me right now is: I don't have enough disk space anymore :/ | 17:24 |
| locusf | ah :/ | 17:24 |
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| SfietKonstantin | I need to build a workstation | 17:25 |
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| locusf | I still have 1.3T ^^ | 17:25 |
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| faenil | lol | 17:26 |
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| faenil | if I had the money | 17:26 |
| faenil | I'd buy 4 Samsung 840Pro 256gb | 17:26 |
| faenil | 1Tb of 4SSD in RAID0 | 17:26 |
| faenil | boom! | 17:26 |
| faenil | 2Gb/s max transfer rate | 17:27 |
| locusf | one goes boom all goes boom | 17:27 |
| faenil | that's some serious setup :D | 17:27 |
| Morpog_PC | raid is overrated faenil | 17:27 |
| faenil | locusf, yes, but SSD will die anyway :p | 17:27 |
| faenil | if you need 100% reliability you don't rely on SSD :D | 17:27 |
| locusf | raid10 might be good though | 17:27 |
| locusf | true | 17:27 |
| faenil | no, no money to spend on that :p | 17:27 |
| Morpog_PC | got a 256gb samsung 840pro as OS disk and a Samsung 840 Evo 1TB as data disc :D | 17:27 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, screw you | 17:28 |
| faenil | got any to sell for a nice price? | 17:28 |
| Morpog_PC | my family always gets my old ones :) | 17:28 |
| SfietKonstantin | locusf: I hate you | 17:28 |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil back is good :) | 17:29 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, makes sese | 17:29 |
| Morpog_PC | and my old OS disc (120GB) I use as temp cache disc for video cutting :D | 17:29 |
| locusf | I have 8 TB of disks sitting idle, ping me faenil when you get to finland | 17:29 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, but your familty doesn't give you $$ :D | 17:29 |
| faenil | locusf, 8TB or SSDs? | 17:29 |
| faenil | of* | 17:29 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, yeah true | 17:29 |
| locusf | nah, sata2 disks | 17:29 |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil: nope, disks are enough | 17:29 |
| faenil | locusf, I'm looking for SSDs, to make the jump forward :D | 17:29 |
| SfietKonstantin | I wound love to have a small SSD and a lot of disks | 17:29 |
| SfietKonstantin | but i have neither of them | 17:30 |
| Morpog_PC | locusf, next to me is a 15TB raid 5 nas :D | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | Morpog_PC: :/ | 17:30 |
| SfietKonstantin | maybe I need a NAS | 17:30 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: ok you win me on that, I've only got 8TB raid6 | 17:30 |
| faenil | ftw are you guys, HW dealers? :D | 17:30 |
| faenil | wtf* | 17:30 |
| Morpog_PC | ehehe :D | 17:31 |
| Morpog_PC | you can never have enough HDD space | 17:31 |
| SfietKonstantin | Morpog_PC: that's true | 17:31 |
| locusf | well my desktop has 4 TB raid10 | 17:31 |
| SfietKonstantin | and you can never have enough CPU power | 17:32 |
| faenil | I don't need a lot of space.. | 17:32 |
| faenil | but SSD.... | 17:32 |
| faenil | :Q______ | 17:32 |
| * sledges looks at his 0.5TB laptop's drive, same one in a workstation and still half empty | 17:32 | |
| sledges | are you guys downloading the internet? :) | 17:32 |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil: buy a small SSD, like 120 go and put / on | 17:32 |
| SfietKonstantin | that's all | 17:32 |
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| SfietKonstantin | your /home can go in a disk | 17:32 |
| Morpog_PC | ssd's are cheap these days | 17:32 |
| faenil | SfietKonstantin, nonono | 17:32 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, well, still 130€ for EVO 256Gb | 17:33 |
| faenil | that's half of my savings xD | 17:33 |
| locusf | pfft | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil: :D | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | I see | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | why not your /home on a disk ? | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | you get all the benefits: fast and reactive system, big space for your photos | 17:33 |
| faenil | don't know, just don't like the idea :p | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | videos, films | 17:33 |
| SfietKonstantin | etc. | 17:33 |
| faenil | 256Gb is enough for my whole system | 17:34 |
| SfietKonstantin | and if you want, create a specific /devhome on SSD | 17:34 |
| faenil | so a 256gb ssd should do | 17:34 |
| SfietKonstantin | in which you put your code | 17:34 |
| SfietKonstantin | ok | 17:34 |
| * sledges watches online, because laptop is too slow to display a downloaded HD :D | 17:34 | |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil: you definitely didn't had 3 SDK (like sailfishos one) + 4 Nemo images | 17:34 |
| SfietKonstantin | sledges: hehe | 17:34 |
| faenil | you think? :D | 17:34 |
| * SfietKonstantin do not watch anything because laptop is too slow to display online HD content | 17:34 | |
| locusf | I have rootfs as SSD and /home as raid10 | 17:34 |
| faenil | I have like 10 SDKs atm on my laptop xD it's a mess xD | 17:35 |
| SfietKonstantin | faenil: :D | 17:35 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, my first SSD was 64GB and cost me about 350€ | 17:35 |
| SfietKonstantin | how many with VM like the size of SF SDK | 17:35 |
| faenil | (not all sailfish ofc) | 17:35 |
| faenil | 1 or 2 | 17:35 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, eh :D | 17:35 |
| Morpog_PC | in 2008 :D | 17:35 |
| faenil | Morpog_PC, I was waiting for the next gen, but it seems they got stuck since 840Pro came out | 17:35 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, there is a successor coming soon | 17:36 |
| faenil | mmm | 17:36 |
| SfietKonstantin | Morpog_PC: soon tm | 17:36 |
| SfietKonstantin | just like Half life 3 | 17:36 |
| Morpog_PC | http://www.legitreviews.com/storage-visions-2014-samsung-850-ssd-series-coming-this-summer_132297 | 17:36 |
| locusf | you guys don't have any idea about low disk space, my first computer had 8GB disk | 17:36 |
| SfietKonstantin | or the AMD Bulldozer | 17:36 |
| SfietKonstantin | or Duke Nukem 3D | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | my first computer had 20mb. | 17:37 |
| Stskeeps | well, first PC. | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | locus, my first computer didn't even had an HDD :D | 17:37 |
| SfietKonstantin | we are speaking about current compuiter, not first :/ | 17:37 |
| locusf | Morpog_PC: thin client? | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | amiga 500 | 17:37 |
| locusf | ah | 17:37 |
| SfietKonstantin | my first computer had 60 mb IIRC | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | only floppy disks | 17:37 |
| Morpog_PC | workbench was half on a rom and half on a floppy | 17:38 |
| locusf | well I meant my first owned, my dad had a commodore 64 | 17:38 |
| locusf | anyways | 17:38 |
| locusf | nowadays its 32GB on a fingernail with microsd's | 17:39 |
| Morpog_PC | there 128GB nowadays already on microsd ;) | 17:39 |
| locusf | oh | 17:39 |
| locusf | I was lacking behind then :p | 17:39 |
| locusf | 128 ... | 17:39 |
| Morpog_PC | http://www.sandisk.com/goto/newmicrosd128/ | 17:40 |
| Morpog_PC | pretty crazy :D | 17:40 |
| SfietKonstantin | what I wonder is the RW speed on these chips | 17:40 |
| SfietKonstantin | must be awefully bad | 17:41 |
| locusf | thats just stupid | 17:41 |
| Morpog_PC | true, loads of interleaving becuase of too less channels and too much dices in the packages | 17:41 |
| faenil | I can't believe I used to play on C64 at the age of, what...6 or something? | 17:41 |
| faenil | and that required fiddling with cmdline to play games xD | 17:41 |
| Morpog_PC | faenil, yeah, I remember destroying joysticks like hell | 17:42 |
| faenil | :D | 17:42 |
| Morpog_PC | with games like summer or winter games :D | 17:42 |
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| faenil | all those cassettes... | 17:42 |
| faenil | owww | 17:42 |
| faenil | yeeeah! | 17:42 |
| locusf | http://pastie.org/8994612 | 17:44 |
| locusf | ^ lshw | 17:44 |
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| faenil | :'( | 17:44 |
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| SfietKonstantin | :O | 17:45 |
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| Morpog_PC | comparing workstations to desktop PC's is unfair ;) | 17:45 |
| SfietKonstantin | nindeed | 17:46 |
| locusf | this is a workstation only by definition :p | 17:46 |
| * sledges pats his dl360 g5 :) | 17:47 | |
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| locusf | wow a rack server <3 | 17:48 |
| sledges | just sits here warming up the room | 17:49 |
| sledges | removed half of fans to slash the noise in half to proper one | 17:49 |
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| sledges | so budgies don't get freaked out :) | 17:49 |
| mord | Morpog_PC: you should not have invested in quickshots but competition pros insteadd | 17:49 |
| mord | -d | 17:50 |
| mord | unbreakable | 17:50 |
| locusf | hey mord :) | 17:51 |
| mord | hiya locusf :) | 17:51 |
| locusf | long time no see, whats up ? | 17:51 |
| mord | same old | 17:51 |
| mord | you? | 17:51 |
| mord | well mer/nemo obviously :P | 17:52 |
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| locusf | mord: yeah plus uni studies | 17:52 |
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| mord | cool | 17:52 |
| mord | locusf: i'm seriously starting to doubt the viability of systemd | 17:56 |
| mord | it's seriously painful to integrate | 17:56 |
| locusf | mord: oh? | 17:56 |
| locusf | I have not looked into systemd that seriously :p | 17:57 |
| mord | i mean, unless you follow the template it's meant to work with, it gets quite messy | 17:57 |
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| sledges | true, it's perfect for plug'n'play - i.e. rapid prototyping (minus the kernel debug glitch :D ), but not for porting mature init systems | 17:57 |
| mord | template as in system stetup template | 17:57 |
| mord | setup* | 17:57 |
| mord | (on a train and enjoying v.21-like local echo) | 17:58 |
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| stephg | evening folks | 22:56 |
| sledges | hewwo :) | 22:58 |
| sledges | what's cookin' doc? | 22:58 |
| stephg | not alot, heavy evening of beer and (other peoples) problems | 22:59 |
| stephg | you have tasty things though cooking in those OBS ovens of yours sledges no? | 23:00 |
| sledges | beer and problems come together ;) into a peaceful resolution | 23:00 |
| sledges | stephg: | 23:00 |
| sledges | zypper ref | 23:00 |
| stephg | for me yes, for other people, not (necessarily) so much | 23:00 |
| stephg | sir yes sir! | 23:00 |
| * stephg fumbles to boot n9 | 23:00 | |
| sledges | zypper remove lipstick-colorful-home | 23:00 |
| sledges | zypper in lipstick-glacier-home | 23:01 |
| sledges | hope it cuts :D | 23:01 |
| stephg | ooooOOOOOOooo | 23:01 |
| stephg | here;s hoping | 23:01 |
| * stephg jeebus I can't type | 23:01 | |
| sledges | sure you can code | 23:02 |
| sledges | Ballmer's Peak | 23:02 |
| sledges | :D | 23:02 |
| niqt | hi | 23:02 |
| sledges | ehlo :) | 23:02 |
| stephg | oooh sledges groks esmtp | 23:03 |
| sledges | aloha | 23:03 |
| sledges | just buzzwords :) | 23:03 |
| * stephg refreshing | 23:05 | |
| * stephg dup'ing | 23:05 | |
| sledges | now you mentioned it | 23:05 |
| sledges | hope display problem wont get worse at least | 23:05 |
| stephg | which display problem | 23:06 |
| sledges | the one you mentioend yesterday :) | 23:06 |
| stephg | oh that one | 23:06 |
| stephg | so if I'm wanting to apply glacier lipstick, I don't need to remove anything? | 23:07 |
| stephg | it'll just override the old meego lipstick? | 23:07 |
| stephg | (also it seems not in the default repos) | 23:08 |
| stephg | oh lipstick-glacier-home-qt5 | 23:09 |
| stephg | and then stephg slowly rebooted his n9 | 23:10 |
| * stephg thinks shite detective novel narrative is the way to go | 23:10 | |
| stephg | he took a drag on a cigarette (actually I don't smoke) | 23:11 |
| stephg | paused, and then said 'it boots to the homescreen' | 23:12 |
| stephg | (jazz in the background) | 23:12 |
| stephg | ok, bored of the narative now. | 23:13 |
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| sledges | you didn't remove lipstick-colorful-home-qt5 ? | 23:13 |
| stephg | well first off, it woyks! but second, not very well | 23:13 |
| sledges | probably it got replaced nicely | 23:14 |
| stephg | no did the in on it's owk | 23:14 |
| stephg | own | 23:14 |
| stephg | The following NEW packages are going to be installed: | 23:14 |
| stephg | lipstick-glacier-home-qt5 nemo-qml-plugin-contextkit-qt5 qt5-qtgraphicaleffects qt5-qtquickcontrols qt5-qtquickcontrols-nemo | 23:14 |
| stephg | so right now it's landscape only | 23:14 |
| sledges | i was gonna say it's not about working well yet | 23:15 |
| sledges | it's about the looks | 23:15 |
| sledges | but i guess orientation lock is about both :D | 23:15 |
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| sledges | do you have battery % ? | 23:15 |
| stephg | yeah the looks are a bit lacking ;) | 23:15 |
| stephg | so the top menubar only says 'undefined%' | 23:15 |
| sledges | is however a better breeding ground than old homescreen ;) | 23:16 |
| sledges | and you are an early early adopter again ;) | 23:16 |
| sledges | we'll ping locusf about undefined% | 23:16 |
| * sledges waves off! | 23:16 | |
| stephg | I wonder whether undefined% are my battery stats? | 23:16 |
| sledges | \nn | 23:16 |
| stephg | ha | 23:16 |
| sledges | yep, upower --dump should show more | 23:16 |
| sledges | and bmestat too | 23:17 |
| stephg | one sec, usbnet is up | 23:17 |
| sledges | but some pieces of puzzle are yet to be dropped from locusf's home ;) | 23:17 |
| stephg | I lied about usb, but wifi is | 23:18 |
| sledges | np | 23:18 |
| sledges | we might not find out much about batt% tonight | 23:18 |
| sledges | as the way bme is launched needs to be tweaked a bit iirc | 23:19 |
| stephg | yeah battery still messed up | 23:19 |
| sledges | check back with ya soon, thanks for quick testing stephg ! | 23:19 |
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| stephg | go to bed | 23:19 |
| stephg | so for reading in the morning (whilst I have a hangover and clean the flat in preparation for my parents) | 23:21 |
| stephg | on the n9 double tap to wake is broken again (with lipstick-glacier-home-qt5 installed) | 23:22 |
| sledges | ooki | 23:22 |
| sledges | i guess it's down to mce | 23:22 |
| stephg | lock screen is there and functional but landscape | 23:22 |
| stephg | in landscape unlock is vertical(!) bringing you to the running app screen (i.e. covers on jolla, multitasking on harmattan), | 23:23 |
| * sledges will read this in the morning while waiting for stephg parents :) | 23:24 | |
| stephg | one swipe left or right (i.e. vertically, this is landscape remember) shows the app screen but without icons | 23:25 |
| stephg | rendering of fonts looks fine | 23:25 |
| stephg | as stated above (not about my parents) the menubar is a constant 'undefined%' | 23:26 |
| * stephg now tries to launch something | 23:26 | |
| stephg | ooooh | 23:26 |
| stephg | new 'four dot' spindicator :) | 23:26 |
| stephg | launched fingerterm in portrait | 23:27 |
| stephg | but the multiple screen window is kinda a mess | 23:28 |
| * stephg continues to play | 23:29 | |
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| stephg | launching the messaging app seems to crash is | 23:33 |
| stephg | notifications work | 23:33 |
| stephg | (recharge battery, sdk in use) | 23:33 |
| stephg | oops calendar also crashes | 23:34 |
| stephg | yeah everything now seems to crash it | 23:35 |
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