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cameris_is there a way to run a script when connman connects to a network?07:11
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xavinuxgood morning people09:20
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locusfgood morning all09:34
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sledgesmorning :)12:14
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stephgohai!12:15
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xavinuxsledges, ping12:47
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sledgespong12:48
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xavinuxhi seldges...will test glacier vm and have a question12:59
xavinuxfollowing this https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing12:59
xavinuxneed to download the .vdi file ?13:01
locusfxavinux: http://images.formeego.org/virtual-x86/nemo/nemoWayland-20131030.vdi13:04
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xavinuxlocusf: download it but when start vm a grey screen appear and nothing else happened...13:05
locusfxavinux: hmm ok, something else wrong then13:06
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xavinuxlocusf: yes13:08
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locusfxavinux: try the opaque fix?13:18
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xavinuxlocusf: read that i486 VM IMAGE HAS AN OPACITY GLITCH: all apps appear transparent which have a Temporary solution13:25
xavinuxbut can´t apply solution if the vm doesn´t start13:26
xavinuxonly a grey square13:26
locusfxavinux: did you try ssh?13:27
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xavinuxlocusf: I couldn´t as the vm doesn´t start. No screen nor services running, only a grey screen appears and nothing else happend13:29
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xavinuxlocusf: tyring a new file download13:32
locusfxavinux: okay13:32
sledgesxavinux: dont13:33
sledges:)13:33
sledgesyou need to follow wayland vm installation instructions13:34
sledgeshttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Nemo/Installing#VirtualBox13:34
locusfah, I didn't remember that13:34
sledgeswiki needs tidy up of x11 :)13:34
sledgesand put wayland upfront13:34
xavinuxsledges: hi!...yes I remeber that you tell me that there was no need of downloading, but couldn´t remenber where to follow instructions13:35
xavinuxok will try that :)13:35
xavinuxif all work and need to modified wiki can do it13:36
sledgesgreat :)13:36
xavinuxand make a screenshot tutorial13:36
sledges;) on your blog13:36
xavinuxbut let me first test it and get it working ok13:37
sledgessure13:37
xavinux ok on my blog, no problem13:37
sledgesthanks :)13:41
xavinuxSetting up VirtualBox => From the Images repository select the latest release and download the image named nemo-handset-i486-vm-*.img (click images link) => i486-vm => click direct link but only a vdi file is ready foe downloaded, no .img nor .iso files appears13:48
sledgesxavinux:13:51
sledgeswayland instructions ;)13:51
sledgesthat's why wiki is a mess, and i want you to discover that ^_^13:51
sledgesso it's easier to get the whole picture13:51
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xavinuxsledges: sorry, lloking at the worng place, here it is https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image13:59
xavinux*looking13:59
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sledgesyep ;)14:02
sledgesnow you know where to start fixing wiki later on ;)14:02
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xavinuxyes I do :)14:06
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sledgesxavinux: we'll ideally want wayland as default now in wiki, and old x11 articles should be moved to their respective X11 archives (similar way wayland is now)14:13
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xavinuxsledges: yes understand. Now working over the installation of the Mer SDK plataform VM needed before continue with the nemo wayland vm...14:18
sledgesyep ;)14:21
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xavinuxsledges: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK_on_VirtualBox =< Download the SDK vmdk from http://img.merproject.org/images//web/henrik/6-20121115-132446/mer-sdk-i486-wip-sda.vdi.bz2 => 404 Not Found14:54
xavinuxerror appears....14:54
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sledgesxavinux: the only 100% tested solution is https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Platform_SDK , needs to be done on your linux host PC14:59
sledgesVirtualBox no true linux dev used (means no-one :)) , so it sank in dust14:59
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sledgesxavinux:15:00
sledgesalso15:00
sledgesto test nemo on vm15:00
sledgesmer sdk is not needed15:00
sledges(yup, wiki really needs some love :))15:00
sledgesso let's break it down to simple tasks15:00
sledgesfirst - test nemo on vm15:01
sledgesjob done15:01
sledges:)15:01
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bencoh"wiki really needs some love" agreed 0:)15:20
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xavinuxsledges: ok :)15:23
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xavinuxso that a working Mer SDK setup is required is not needed....15:31
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xavinuxsledges: I´ve tested nemo on vm last year15:34
xavinuxsledges: with internet connection and so on,  where I continue from to test it but with wayland to then port Glacier ux?15:35
sledgesxavinux: rephrase pls15:36
xavinuxsledges, sorry, I´ve tested nemo on vm last year...if no mer sdk is neede to test it with wayland, what do I have to do to get the vm working with it (wayland)?15:40
sledgesok15:40
sledgessorry xavinux i didn't have time to look into the wayland vm wiki itself15:42
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xavinuxoh don´t worry :)15:44
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sledgesthat article says how to make vdi file yourself15:46
sledgesand you don't need that15:46
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sledgesjust skip to the bit afterwards where you already have that .vdi (downloaded)15:47
xavinuxhttps://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Wayland_Nemo_VM_Image => Setup Nemo Wayland VM  => start here "Now download the .ks file for the Wayland Nemo VM, and build the image using: " ?15:53
xavinuxas teh first part refers to mer sdk which is not nedeed15:54
sledgeserm15:55
sledgesks15:55
xavinuxto be install15:55
sledges.ks is how you make your own image15:55
sledgesand mer sdk is used to make it15:55
sledgesso skip both :)15:55
xavinuxyes supose so...15:55
xavinuxso start at this point:     " Now open VirtualBox and create a new VM as explained in VirtualBox installation guide"15:57
xavinuxok better here: "Setup Wayland VM SB2 target "16:02
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sledgesxavinux: create vm16:04
sledgesand don't setup sb2 target - that one is for crosscompiling16:04
xavinuxok16:04
xavinuxgot a vm working16:04
sledgesso now you know which paragraphs in wiki to move around later on ;) you're doing well16:04
sledgesyay16:04
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xavinux:)16:04
xavinuxso sdk platform is not needed, so ks file wich is build with sdk is also not needed. Now open VirtualBox and create a new VM as explained in VirtualBox installation guide => then Setting up VirtualBox => and From the Images repository select the latest release and download the image named nemo-handset-i486-vm-*.img16:11
sledgesthe last bit16:13
sledgesis not needed16:14
sledgesyou already have the .vdi16:14
sledges(read the line after "Now open VirtualBox and create a new VM as explained in VirtualBox installation guide" )16:15
sledgesyou see what mess it is :D16:15
sledgeswe just did it to maximise re-use16:15
sledgesbut obviously we minimised readability for new people :)16:15
sledgesthis has to change now o716:16
xavinuxI know, but I need to know how to make it work as to make a correct tutoriual...16:18
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xavinuxsorry for asking so many questions, but don´t understand where to start working16:18
xavinuxas I already have a nemo vm m,machine installed and works ok and has internet connection16:19
xavinuxadn now?...what do I have to do with it to make wayland work instead of x11 server16:20
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sledgescreate new virtual machine16:21
sledgesusing .vdi you downloaded today16:22
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xavinuxok, now that is the point I was speaking....after downloading it and starting the vm, a grey square appears on the vm´s screen and nothing else happend16:35
xavinuxno login, nor ux screen appears....16:37
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xavinuxtime to go home....see you later17:07
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sledgesbye17:16
sledgessorry afk a bit17:16
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