| ryukafalz | ah, hmm | 00:00 |
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| ryukafalz | sledges, Eztran: thanks for the info | 00:00 |
| sledges | for the future surely n4 is a better option, but i'm faithful to n9 | 00:01 |
| sledges | nevertheless, quite likely walaynd can't see full improvement there | 00:01 |
| sledges | especially we need 3.x kernel for n9 | 00:01 |
| sledges | krnlyng: ping ;) | 00:01 |
| ryukafalz | yeah, I was looking at the n4 as it's pretty reasonably priced | 00:02 |
| ryukafalz | but at the same time, the n9 is a beautiful piece of hardware :P | 00:02 |
| sledges | yeap.. | 00:02 |
| ryukafalz | still, n4 is more powerful and all... will probably end up going with that | 00:02 |
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| ryukafalz | maybe one day I'll get an n9 to play around with XD | 00:03 |
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| ryukafalz | also, IM protocol support was mentioned earlier, is that in qmlmessages? | 00:06 |
| ryukafalz | /telepathy | 00:07 |
| sledges | that's a fertile soil to decide :) | 00:07 |
| sledges | probably some unified msg hub like in sailfish | 00:07 |
| sledges | gathering bits from plugins | 00:07 |
| sledges | would be nice to have ^_^ | 00:07 |
| sledges | should't be too much effort, as most pieces of puzzle are at hand | 00:07 |
| ryukafalz | would indeed be nice... though without xep-0198 xmpp support is kinda not so nice on mobile | 00:08 |
| ryukafalz | that's on a different layer though, needs support in the cm :P | 00:08 |
| sledges | what's that? | 00:09 |
| ryukafalz | stream management spec, basically resumes the connection if your network connectivity is interrupted | 00:09 |
| ryukafalz | and stanza acknowledgement so you don't miss things | 00:09 |
| ryukafalz | else any messages sent while switching networks/signal dropouts are lost in the ether | 00:10 |
| sledges | what frontends use that? | 00:11 |
| ryukafalz | frontends? | 00:11 |
| sledges | xmpp clients (jabber, gtalk)? | 00:12 |
| ryukafalz | ah | 00:12 |
| sledges | and xep-0198 is purely a cherry on top depending if your hw haz it? | 00:13 |
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| ryukafalz | gajim is the only desktop one I know of that supports it, but a few of the android clients do now (yaxim, chatsecure, maybe some others) | 00:13 |
| sledges | oic | 00:13 |
| ryukafalz | the problem nemo has is telepathy-gabble doesn't support it | 00:13 |
| ryukafalz | which if it did, any client based on telepathy would benefit | 00:14 |
| ryukafalz | there's an open bug (https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46700) and I pledged some btc towards that on freedomsponsors (https://freedomsponsors.org/core/issue/442/) | 00:15 |
| Merbot | Freedesktop bug 46700 in gabble "Implement reliable stanza delivery using XEP-0198 - Stream Management" [Enhancement,New] | 00:15 |
| sledges | good fight ;) | 00:15 |
| sledges | how it should be | 00:15 |
| ryukafalz | I'm trying to learn more programming so I can work on things like this myself, but in the meantime since I have some bitcoins... :P | 00:16 |
| ryukafalz | though btc is kinda having... issues right now | 00:17 |
| ryukafalz | anyway, the developer of yaxim has a good post about xmpp on mobile devices: http://op-co.de/blog/posts/mobile_xmpp_in_2014/ | 00:17 |
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| ryukafalz | long story short, mobile messaging is complicated and nothing does it that well in the foss world yet | 00:33 |
| ryukafalz | but the nice thing about telepathy is interface designers don't have to worry about the protocol, and vice versa | 00:33 |
| ryukafalz | (mostly) | 00:33 |
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| sledges | yup | 00:39 |
| sledges | and what do you think about telegram? | 00:39 |
| ryukafalz | their heart may be in the right place, but it's too dependent on their centralized server | 00:40 |
| sledges | ok thanks, i was not up to speed with the news :) | 00:42 |
| ryukafalz | ideally we'd have a p2p client-side encrypted messaging app that syncs history between devices... my favorite is a really ambitious one (http://secushare.org/) but it's maybe too ambitious as it's taken years to get off the ground XD | 00:45 |
| sledges | :)) | 00:46 |
| ryukafalz | but once that's in a usable state, I'll be looking into writing a telepathy CM for it if I'm up for the task... still in college and not much experience yet :P | 00:49 |
| sledges | gnite for now | 00:54 |
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| ryukafalz | 'night | 00:54 |
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| norguhtar | sledges: https://build.merproject.org/package/show?package=telepathy-haze&project=home%3Anorguhtar%3Ahaze all done | 04:11 |
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| xavinux | good morning, wish you a good day | 09:12 |
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| xavinux | sledges, hi | 09:52 |
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| sledges | morning! | 10:10 |
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| sledges | norguhtar: looks great, many thanks! | 10:11 |
| norguhtar | sledges: okey ;) | 10:12 |
| sledges | it can first be promoted to nemo repos as they are happy rolling | 10:12 |
| sledges | sailfish will take longer surely | 10:12 |
| sledges | but nothing prevents early adopters now to just add your repo: http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/norguhtar:/haze/nemo_mw_armv7hl/ | 10:13 |
| norguhtar | sledges: it should work on jolla? | 10:14 |
| sledges | norguhtar: the source code will be promoted int github | 10:14 |
| sledges | norguhtar: yes | 10:14 |
| sledges | norguhtar: if you volunteer to be its maintainer ;) | 10:14 |
| sledges | norguhtar: to test on jolla, just add sailfish-1.0.2.5 repo armv7hl | 10:15 |
| norguhtar | sledges: https://together.jolla.com/question/1729/compile-and-add-libpurple-to-jolla-repositories/ | 10:16 |
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| norguhtar | request already exist ;) | 10:16 |
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| sledges | ok, time to ping special ;) | 10:17 |
| sledges | also, just write that it's done; into that ticket | 10:17 |
| norguhtar | sledges: i'm add sailfish repo. obs build this automatically? | 10:18 |
| sledges | yes | 10:18 |
| norguhtar | sledges: need change arch to armv8el? | 10:19 |
| sledges | also, with obs, if any dependencies rebuild, this also causes rebuild to your packages (and they are not published if md5sums dont change) | 10:19 |
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| sledges | norguhtar: yes, check onle armv8el pls | 10:21 |
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| norguhtar | sledges: done | 10:23 |
| sledges | well done | 10:24 |
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